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Buck Turgidson posted:I've been meaning to ask: did they tweak lost izalith at all in the dlc release/patch? Still a shithole.
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ThePhenomenalBaby posted:Here's a relevant Manus Catalyst video. Yeah... I'm gonna need more strength. I've done some tests, on the plant monsters in the garden, in NG+. I have 40 str and 16 int. With the Oolacile Ivory Catalyst, Dark Orb does 213 damage to them. With the Manus Catalyst, it does 195 damage. Melee attacking with the Manus Catalyst does 220 damage to them.  I wonder what the breakpoint will be that will make the Manus Catalyst overcome the much higher mag adj on the OIC. Either way, so far the numbers are disappointing and make the meager intelligence investment not really worth it. Oh well, figured it was worth experiment with.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Yeah... I'm gonna need more strength. I've done some tests, on the plant monsters in the garden, in NG+. I have 40 str and 16 int. With the Oolacile Ivory Catalyst, Dark Orb does 213 damage to them. With the Manus Catalyst, it does 195 damage. Melee attacking with the Manus Catalyst does 220 damage to them. 16 int is way too low for TCC/Manus. http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Magic+Adjustment so I'd say get it to 23-24.
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I appreciate it at least, since I was planning on giving it a shot with 40 strength/16 intelligence myself. Guess either I'll snag a better catalyst or forget about it.
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Sep 16, 2012 02:39
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Any cool bro around 55 want to help out at 4 kings? Never really had issues with them like this time.
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TheDuke posted:Any cool bro around 55 want to help out at 4 kings? Never really had issues with them like this time. I'm at SL70 so I -should- be able to help. Add me at http://steamcommunity.com/id/kaubocks and we can avoid clutter in the thread.
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KaneTW posted:16 int is way too low for TCC/Manus. http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Magic+Adjustment so I'd say get it to 23-24. Hmm, to put 8 more levels into intelligence or not... I'm already level 80. Oh well, I'm on NG+, I guess at this point, level management is a non-issue. I'm never going to find anyone for sunbroing and everyone will more or less be able to invade me now anyways, right?
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Sep 16, 2012 03:37
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Well I've thoroughly embarassed myself by dying within the first 10 seconds of fighting Smorg and Borg twice now. Complacency at being level 71 is not a good thing! edit: 3 times. I don't remember having any trouble with them before! Cowcaster fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Sep 16, 2012 |
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Sep 16, 2012 03:42
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Hmm, to put 8 more levels into intelligence or not... I'm already level 80. Oh well, I'm on NG+, I guess at this point, level management is a non-issue. I'm never going to find anyone for sunbroing and everyone will more or less be able to invade me now anyways, right? You'll still find a reasonable amount of coop as a sunbro since that extends the level range a bit. I helped dudes with artorias a couple times the other day on my 80 dude. Your only real pvp option is to join the darkmoon.
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Sep 16, 2012 03:43
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Kaubocks posted:I'm at SL70 so I -should- be able to help. Add me at http://steamcommunity.com/id/kaubocks and we can avoid clutter in the thread. Done! Thanks a lot!
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Sep 16, 2012 03:49
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tractor fanatic posted:What's the deal with the Four King's homing projectile when there are summons? Whenever I sunbro there and they shoot it, it just seems to orbit around randomly, never seeming to target anybody. I figured I'd just ignore it once and then it killed me while I was hitting the boss. Does it target whoever hit the king last or something? It's a full tracking projectile that doesn't go away until it hits something or disappears. I have no clue how long it takes to finally dissipate but I wanna say it's more than 10 seconds at the very least. It's one of the reasons why fighting them at long to medium range is such a dangerous proposition, besides taking the full brunt of the sword of course. Yea once it's out your better of running past it towards whatever King is closest and then block it, so they don't throw it out again.
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Sep 16, 2012 03:53
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ThePhenomenalBaby posted:It's a full tracking projectile that doesn't go away until it hits something or disappears. I have no clue how long it takes to finally dissipate but I wanna say it's more than 10 seconds at the very least. It's one of the reasons why fighting them at long to medium range is such a dangerous proposition, besides taking the full brunt of the sword of course.
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Cowcaster posted:Well I've thoroughly embarassed myself by dying within the first 10 seconds of fighting Smorg and Borg twice now. Complacency at being level 71 is not a good thing! As someone who Sunbros O+S a lot, let me tell you, you would not believe how often you can hear your host go "Arrgg!" and slam the ground from Ornstein's charge attack before you can even get through the fog door.
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Sep 16, 2012 04:12
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I don't think it is possible to dodge it. Even when the kings throw it in the completely wrong direction, the drat thing sloooooowly loops back around, clipping through the "floor" and just slamming into you while you're busy with the king's other attacks. If it does disappear it takes ages to and you'd have to be really focused on dodging it to not be hit, which just isn't possible in a fight that is essentially on a time limit. VVVV I think you're plan should just be to use a shield for that attack alone. Yeah you're doing a no shield run but the 4 kings is a lovely boss, you shouldn't feel bad about bending the rules to deal with their crap. The only alternative I can think of is just hoping they decide not to do it. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Sep 16, 2012 |
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Sep 16, 2012 04:13
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Internet Kraken posted:I don't think it is possible to dodge it. Even when the kings throw it in the completely wrong direction, the drat thing sloooooowly loops back around, clipping through the "floor" and just slamming into you while your busy with the king's other attacks. If it does disappear it takes ages to do and you'd have to be really focused on dodging it to not be hit, which just isn't possible in a fight that is essentially on a time limit.
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Sep 16, 2012 04:14
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If it's the magic defense ring from the merchant in Sens it'll take off about 20-30 points of damage off the projectile. So no, that won't do poo poo against it. Your best bets to survive it are probably Magic Barrier or summoning Beatrice so you can run past her and she takes the hit for you.
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Sep 16, 2012 04:18
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Does anyone ever use the red soapstone except in the kiln? I saw a red name there once. Does it only work if both players haven't beaten the boss? How do you betray the darkwraiths? The wiki says if you gently caress up they won't sell you any more red stones but they don't say what pisses them off. For 4 kings: if he throws a projectile just run at it, shield up, and eat it. If you let it pass, it'll find you again, probably just after you get hit from his sword killing you. With only 10 vitality and havel's armor and a shield it took less than half my life, but getting hit with the point of that sword at the same time was enough to kill me.
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Sending out the bag signal again this time to get help cutting off seaths tail, I don't even care about killing him. My HOTTEST TRICKS do about 80 damage a swing to it on the initial run then I can hardly get to it again. Still SL25.
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Sep 16, 2012 04:19
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Anyone else disappointed that the weapons you get from chopping off tails aren't the tail themselves? When I heard about that I thought I could go around whipping people with a severed dragon tail. Was very let down when it turned out to be a lovely axe.
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Sep 16, 2012 04:21
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Considering two of the best weapons in the game come from tails, and the one you just mentioned has a useful move, no I really don't want to swing an actual dragon tail. Just use the Gargoyle Axe or the Dragon Tooth if you're into that sort of thing.
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Sep 16, 2012 04:23
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There really should have been a whip that was a slender dragon's tail. I want to Belmont my way through the game and it's disappointing that it's basically impossible. edit: I know that there are whips in the game, for the record, but they're both awful and if I'm not mistaken neither are toward the beginning.
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Sep 16, 2012 04:49
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:There really should have been a whip that was a slender dragon's tail. I want to Belmont my way through the game and it's disappointing that it's basically impossible. Upgrading it all the way to the flame whip looks kind of boss.
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Sep 16, 2012 04:58
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Just started the DLC a boy howdy Artorias was a fun fight. So far the DLC seems to be pretty good quality overall. Got a little ways into the Township before I got smoked by some magic from behind. About how long is the DLC, anyway? I'm nearing 60 hours played on this game and I haven't even finished my first character. It's been a long time since I've been able to say that about a game, let alone play one that held my interest for so long.TheDuke posted:Done! Thanks a lot! No problem, man! Still think it's weird that the third king managed to one-shot you out of nowhere with a sword swing. I've never seen it do that much damage before. At least it didn't take us long to reconnect and we got it the second time! :V
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:There really should have been a whip that was a slender dragon's tail. I want to Belmont my way through the game and it's disappointing that it's basically impossible. You get a scorpion looking tail whip in the dlc... If you cut off a tail!
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drink slurm posted:You get a scorpion looking tail whip in the dlc... If you cut off a tail! gently caress, seriously? Kalameet, right? I didn't even think to go for the tail. edit: Oh man, it's actually the Sanctuary Guardian. Didn't think of that one, either.
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I'm SL 24 trying to get a little help for the Gaping Dragon but I haven't seen any signs at all other than the two NPCs. Am I way below the normal SL in the depths, or is this place generally this dead on PC? I suppose I could just suck it up and brute force him (had him down to 10% three times but got greedy each time and died) but it'd be nice to have a little help that doesn't die right at the start of the fight.
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ImpactVector posted:I'm SL 24 trying to get a little help for the Gaping Dragon but I haven't seen any signs at all other than the two NPCs. Am I way below the normal SL in the depths, or is this place generally this dead on PC? I sunbro'd for Gaping Dragon maybe about 5 times today. This was before noon PST. Seemed very populated. I was SL 25 on the dot. I'd help but I won't be home for hours.
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Kaubocks posted:Just started the DLC a boy howdy Artorias was a fun fight. So far the DLC seems to be pretty good quality overall. Got a little ways into the Township before I got smoked by some magic from behind. About how long is the DLC, anyway? I'm nearing 60 hours played on this game and I haven't even finished my first character. It's been a long time since I've been able to say that about a game, let alone play one that held my interest for so long. The DLC is probably 4 -6 hours long depending on whether the bosses hand you your rear end. It's only a couple of areas, three if you stretch it, but they're all well-made. And funny enough, the Greatshield of Artorias simplified that boss fight a great deal on NG+. His stamina destroying attacks weren't quite so destroying anymore and I could afford to absorb all his blows. Even when he got a hulk-out in he couldn't do much against that shield.
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Perfect Potato posted:And funny enough, the Greatshield of Artorias simplified that boss fight a great deal on NG+. His stamina destroying attacks weren't quite so destroying anymore and I could afford to absorb all his blows. Even when he got a hulk-out in he couldn't do much against that shield.
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:I sunbro'd for Gaping Dragon maybe about 5 times today. This was before noon PST. Seemed very populated. I was SL 25 on the dot.
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There's a guide to SLs in the OP that has been pretty accurate in my experience.
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Shima Honnou posted:As someone who Sunbros O+S a lot, let me tell you, you would not believe how often you can hear your host go "Arrgg!" and slam the ground from Ornstein's charge attack before you can even get through the fog door. Oh, I wouldn't actually have minded if it was just me by myself getting pounded into the dirt, but this was me trying to sunbro and help some other guys out only to flail around uselessly and poof out of existence nearly immediately. I could practically picture the host going "Oh well that sure was a worthwhile use of humanity".
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Invading someone and managing to dodge them for a nice backstab only to find out they're a hacker with infinite health and endurance is very disappointing. E: I keep invading the same guy. He's just waiting by the fog gate of the Demon Ruins so he can kill invaders. Aand just invaded him again. Done invading for the night. He doesn't have the five minute timer against invaders too. gay devil fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Sep 16, 2012 |
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Yeah I Like Girls posted:Aand just invaded him again. Done invading for the night. He doesn't have the five minute timer against invaders too. There is a item that resets that.
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Think I'll do some WRAITHIN' for a bit http://www.twitch.tv/gazaar come czech it out brah.
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gently caress YEAH SUCK MY DICK FOREVER YOU ANIME LIGHTNING GUY gently caress
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Average Bear posted:gently caress YEAH SUCK MY DICK FOREVER YOU ANIME LIGHTNING GUY gently caress This should say YOU DEFEATED. 
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Average Bear posted:gently caress YEAH SUCK MY DICK FOREVER YOU ANIME LIGHTNING GUY gently caress I pretty much made this exact post when I beat them, only with Smough instead of Orn. Now eat his soul. Making an item from it isn't as satisfying as completely destroying him forever.
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Doesn't affect those messages, but I don't think anyone has posted this: if you aren't using a font mod you are a crazy person. I got all of these from /r/darksoulsmods: http://imgur.com/a/acer0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/nmtq26ojcw9ukn6/DarkSouls_PoE_Font_Mod.rar http://www.abload.de/img/fontelpjbl.jpg http://www.sendspace.com/file/00a32n http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/Brumbek/Dark%2520Souls/DS_Font_Replace_Comp.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/105519679/DarkSouls_HQ_Kingthings_Font_Replacer_v01.7z
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I made sure to throw poo poo at him until he slowly died of poo poo poisoning, too. Just because a sword to the cock was NOT enough.
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