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9031 | 65.25% |
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1603 | 11.58% |
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748 | 5.40% |
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:And then Trent Reznor, the guy who wrote an entire concept album criticizing the Republican right and how the wars they try to push will erode American liberties into salt, decided to do the theme song for the game. Aren't the games anti-war? I mean it's subtle but the storyline is all about corruption and people dying needlessly. MW1 had a fantastic section where you took control of an AC-130 and got to see just how much of a video game it is to soldiers.
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Sep 28, 2012 19:04
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COD: Black Ops is warporn, whereas Black Ops: The Line is all about seeing the actual impact those video game choices make.
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Sep 28, 2012 19:15
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Chronojam posted:COD: Black Ops is warporn, whereas Black Ops: The Line is all about seeing the actual impact those video game choices make. Things have changed quite a bit since mw1 then. poo poo every time you died in mw1 you got a quote from an important historical figure about the futility of war. extremebuff fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Sep 28, 2012 |
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Sep 28, 2012 19:24
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Chronojam posted:COD: Black Ops is warporn, whereas Black Ops: The Line is all about seeing the actual impact those video game choices make.
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Sep 28, 2012 19:26
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I got the sense that once Activision pissed off Infinity Ward and they left, that's when the series sort of tanked and started seeming like 'warporn'. Granted, I can't confirm this since I haven't played a Call of Duty since CoD3. (I also was under the impression that since then, Treyarch's iterations have been better than IW's)
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Sep 28, 2012 19:39
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Wait, why is the headphone jack on top of the gamepad? Doesn't that just guarantee the wire going over the screen if you want to lean back and relax while playing on the gamepad? That seems like the worst place to put it.
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Sep 28, 2012 19:53
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Chaltab posted:I got the sense that once Activision pissed off Infinity Ward and they left, that's when the series sort of tanked and started seeming like 'warporn'. Granted, I can't confirm this since I haven't played a Call of Duty since CoD3. The thin anti-war veneer on MW1 was gone by MW2, which was a "proper" IW game, although not necessarily one the company was happy to make (Activision made a deal with West & Zampella that after MW2 they would be allowed to make a non-CoD game in exchange for doing MW2). MW1 is basically the only game that has that, and even then it was basically just the quotes after you die and the AC-130 section (which tended to be received more as "Cool! This is just like those grainy tapes you see from time to time!" than causing anyone to actually reflect on the video-game-like nature of modern war) that were still overpowered by the "MILITARY gently caress YEAH" that was the rest of the game.
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Sep 28, 2012 19:54
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thefncrow posted:The thin anti-war veneer on MW1 was gone by MW2, which was a "proper" IW game, although not necessarily one the company was happy to make (Activision made a deal with West & Zampella that after MW2 they would be allowed to make a non-CoD game in exchange for doing MW2).
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Sep 28, 2012 20:02
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thefncrow posted:The thin anti-war veneer on MW1 was gone by MW2, which was a "proper" IW game, although not necessarily one the company was happy to make (Activision made a deal with West & Zampella that after MW2 they would be allowed to make a non-CoD game in exchange for doing MW2). I'm pretty sure any illusions of being a grounded cautionary look at war went out the window the first time we saw the scene of them dual-wielding SMGs from the back of a snowmobile in the MW2 trailer.
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Sep 28, 2012 20:08
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greatn posted:Wait, why is the headphone jack on top of the gamepad? Doesn't that just guarantee the wire going over the screen if you want to lean back and relax while playing on the gamepad? That seems like the worst place to put it. Loop the cable around the back of the gamepad instead of the front. Most headphones have 3+ feet of cable which is more than enough for that, I think. Still dumb though.
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Sep 28, 2012 21:39
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In trying to think how long mine are. Loping around the back I basically lose half a foot or more and will be worried moving ny head will jerk the controller.
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Sep 28, 2012 21:42
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FlyingCheese posted:Loop the cable around the back of the gamepad instead of the front. Most headphones have 3+ feet of cable which is more than enough for that, I think. Does the Gamepad have like a little slot or groove on the back to support that, ala Dreamcast?
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Sep 28, 2012 21:43
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Urdnot Fire posted:For clarification's sake, you mean Spec Ops: The Line. Yeah, that's the one. I was about to run out the door when I posted, but there was also a good set of reviews that explore the story in Spec Ops and how it subverts the player's expectations on what a military shooter should be. If I find them again I will link it.
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Sep 28, 2012 21:48
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Mandrel posted:I'm pretty sure any illusions of being a grounded cautionary look at war went out the window the first time we saw the scene of them dual-wielding SMGs from the back of a snowmobile in the MW2 trailer.  If there's any reason I'm interested at all in that game, it's cause they seem to be fine with throwing realism completely out the window. If there's something like cowboys and
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Sep 28, 2012 22:26
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japtor posted:From the making of Black Ops 2: From what I recall, the horse stuff is in a 1980s Afghanistan mission. In fact, nothing really seems like they're going to be throwing realism out the window so much as they're trying to interpolate from current trends in drone warfare out to the near future (I'm thinking the setting is like 2025 or 2030). So, cowboys and aliens? Not that likely. Guns that feel like futurized versions of modern military weaponry? Yeah, probably a lot of that.
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Sep 28, 2012 22:33
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thefncrow posted:So, cowboys and aliens? Not that likely. Guns that feel like futurized versions of modern military weaponry? Yeah, probably a lot of that. Also gundams. extremebuff fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Sep 28, 2012 |
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Sep 28, 2012 23:52
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"there's a robot therefore its anime" Mandrel posted:I'm pretty sure any illusions of being a grounded cautionary look at war went out the window the first time we saw the scene of them dual-wielding SMGs from the back of a snowmobile in the MW2 trailer. I'm pretty sure Call of Duty has always been anything BUT a "grounded cautionary look at war". CoD, much like Medal of Honor, has been about making moments from popular war movies playable to some extent, heavily scripted set pieces, and inaccurate portrayals of any given battle they were set to, and this was before they went to the Modern Warfare series. Of course, this doesn't stop people from pretending otherwise. EDIT: Maybe it's the famous quotes that the games keep dropping? To me its like if they started throwing in famous quotes after every death in God of War: it wouldn't make the game particularly insightful about modern war or violence. This derail is honestly a whole different thread altogether though. fivegears4reverse fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Sep 29, 2012 |
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Sep 29, 2012 00:21
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fivegears4reverse posted:"there's a robot therefore its anime" I could've said mechs but that sounds too plain. I went with the comedy option. Other options included "Metal Gears" and "AT-STs."
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Sep 29, 2012 00:29
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Just looks like the mech suits from Blacklight: Retribution which are pretty fun.
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Sep 29, 2012 00:42
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There was a mission in COD:Blops1 that let you blow up the Earth so I'm sure there will be plenty of other craziness in the sequel.
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Sep 29, 2012 00:53
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MW2 was clearly a parody. You can't get more obvious than sticking Cheney and Rumsfield quotes alongside Ghandi and Einstein. The American soldier sections led you from defending a Goodburger to invading the white house. By way of escorting a tank column through someone's front lawn. And then there's the actual story, where your British and Canadian task force teamed up with Russians to nuke America and assassinate the terrorist general who led the middle east invasion in the first game.
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Sep 29, 2012 00:55
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thefncrow posted:From what I recall, the horse stuff is in a 1980s Afghanistan mission. In fact, nothing really seems like they're going to be throwing realism out the window so much as they're trying to interpolate from current trends in drone warfare out to the near future (I'm thinking the setting is like 2025 or 2030). Chaltab posted:There was a mission in COD:Blops1 that let you blow up the Earth so I'm sure there will be plenty of other craziness in the sequel. kater posted:The American soldier sections led you from defending a Goodburger to invading the white house. By way of escorting a tank column through someone's front lawn.
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Sep 29, 2012 04:05
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:Just looks like the mech suits from Blacklight: Retribution which are pretty fun. That's exactly what it reminded me of. Hopefully they're about as balanced i.e. you don't absolutely need a rocket launcher to take one down and two people working together + utilizing cover can down it.
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Sep 29, 2012 19:51
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greatn posted:Just a reminder: They hired a known war criminal who committed acts of treason against the United States to consult on this game, then hyped his name for publicity. So gently caress em. Wait, what? Really? 
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Sep 29, 2012 21:05
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Liku posted:Wait, what? Really? Yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_North http://kotaku.com/5913092/call-of-duty-makers-say-controversial-oliver-north-helped-make-their-game-more-authentic
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Sep 29, 2012 21:08
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poo poo, and I thought the Zero Dark Thirty maps in Medal of Honor were distasteful.
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Sep 29, 2012 21:08
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Oh yes! context: http://youtu.be/Gm5PZGb3OyQ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair Zach Parson's article: http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/raul-menendez-99.php
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Sep 29, 2012 21:10
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8-bit Miniboss posted:Yes. Well god drat that's hosed up. It's sad their still getting my money (twice) because of Zombies.
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Sep 29, 2012 21:13
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Liku posted:Well god drat that's hosed up. It's sad their still getting my money (twice) because of Zombies. Good news, now there's an entire co-op zombie campaign with wacky weapons.
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Sep 29, 2012 23:42
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Zach Parson's article: (Not to excuse the hiring of Oliver North, which is indeed really hosed up.)
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Sep 30, 2012 00:21
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Chaltab posted:I could take Parsons a lot more seriously if he weren't actually arguing that The Dark Knight is pro-fascism. Faux populism is a real thing and it drives all sorts of bad things, from Glenn Beck to right-wing militia groups. So Batman wasn't a quasi-fascist vigilante?
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Sep 30, 2012 01:25
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Have they talked about any digital download games for this thing yet? I'm hoping they bring King of Dragon Pass over.
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Sep 30, 2012 01:27
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Bobnumerotres posted:Good news, now there's an entire co-op zombie campaign with wacky weapons. Yup, hence why I'm buying it twice like a giant tool, one on 360 the other on PC.
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Sep 30, 2012 01:30
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:Have they talked about any digital download games for this thing yet? I'm hoping they bring King of Dragon Pass over. quote:The eShop is a download service where users can buy content from their console. All of Nintendo's Wii U games will be downloadable from the eShop as well as being available in physical copies, and this option is extended to all other developers. From the first post.
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Sep 30, 2012 02:42
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Sorry, really poor phrasing by me. I meant to ask if they had announced any download-exclusives.
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Sep 30, 2012 02:45
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:Sorry, really poor phrasing by me. I meant to ask if they had announced any download-exclusives. Yeah, there's a bunch of 'em, but nothing even remotely similar to KODP, and I'd be very surprised if anything in that vein ever shows up.
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Sep 30, 2012 03:33
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Liku posted:Yup, hence why I'm buying it twice like a giant tool, one on 360 the other on PC. I really wanted the PC version, but this version supports the Wii Remote. 
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Sep 30, 2012 05:20
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Bobnumerotres posted:I really wanted the PC version, but this version supports the Wii Remote. Man I'd love to play with an inferior control scheme.  Though, using the tablet when you use the UAV would be awesome rather that taking up the TV.
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Sep 30, 2012 05:55
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You know there are other games that feature zombies, right? Like, an obscene amount. There's even a Wii U launch title named Zombi.
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Sep 30, 2012 05:58
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Liku posted:Man I'd love to play with an inferior control scheme. Well yeah, why else would you have it on the 360? 
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Sep 30, 2012 06:05
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