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Epi Lepi posted:So if you were gonna build a robot that looks like a person you wouldn't make it look like Scarlett Johannson or Ryan Gosling, but instead make it look like Roseanne Barr or Danny Devito?
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Grey Fox V2 posted:Implying that it should it be one far extreme or another is a false dichotomy dude. I think my point stands whether we talk about making a Joe Everyman bot or Danny Devito's trollishness. If you're gonna make something, make it to the best of your ability.
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Sep 28, 2012 17:06
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I think it's an incredibly stupid point, considering that EVA was designed to infiltrate a research facility by posing as a doctor, and you don't need to be Busty Maxxx to do that. you're aware that someone designed EVA/EDI, and her character didn't like, appear out of the aether, right
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Sep 28, 2012 17:11
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I'm fairly sure that when they designed EDI's body, they weren't wondering what the Illusive Man would realistically want built, let alone what would go unnoticed in a research lab. They were pandering to creepy BSN types, as usual. They decided to write about a sexy robot body, wondered what's sexy, and decided 'I KNOW, GIVE IT A ROBOT CAMELTOE!' (See also Miranda, Isabella, and every woman in origins)
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Sep 28, 2012 17:40
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Fag Boy Jim posted:I think it's an incredibly stupid point, considering that EVA was designed to infiltrate a research facility by posing as a doctor, and you don't need to be Busty Maxxx to do that. Are we going to pretend that beautiful people don't have an easier time with social engineering? If the bot is meant to infiltrate a male dominated environment, it absolutely makes sense to have a comically attractive infiltrator.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Edit: And to keep it on topic, I don't know anybody who bought Leviathan DLC or cares about the upcoming bundled trilogy. Good on Bioware for getting the first game to the PS1, though. What I'm really excited for is N7 day! Let's all drink a liquefied Turian!
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Sep 28, 2012 17:41
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Fag Boy Jim posted:I think it's an incredibly stupid point, considering that EVA was designed to infiltrate a research facility by posing as a doctor, and you don't need to be Busty Maxxx to do that. EDIT: curses !!
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Sep 28, 2012 17:42
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Russad posted:Are we going to pretend that beautiful people don't have an easier time with social engineering? If the bot is meant to infiltrate a male dominated environment, it absolutely makes sense to have a comically attractive infiltrator.
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Sep 28, 2012 19:39
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I just wish that they'd never made the fembot in the first place. It was a stupid idea that tossed out EDI's development as a unique entity for a bog standard Pinocchio storyline. Much like what happened to the Geth. That's not even touching how creepy they made Joker when he started leering at her immediately after it got up again. I suppose we should count ourselves lucky that she wasn't another addition to Shepard's harem. On a different note, this: Edit: dead link removed Geostomp fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Sep 28, 2012 |
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Sep 28, 2012 19:52
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Sombrerotron posted:Being (smart) Busty Maxxx probably helps with gaining quick acceptance among all those sexually frustrated science nerds, though. And hey science nerds don't know what boobs feel like so titanium tits surely didn't seem too weird
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Sep 28, 2012 20:14
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Geostomp posted:
Link is broken. And they weren't titanium, they were a polymer elastase  Geez if you can't talk about EDI's tits right don't talk about them at all. I'm actually surprised that EDI wasn't a romance. Better than Joker she should have hooked up with Legion.
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Sep 28, 2012 20:19
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hwordhan posted:No, you need at least two survivors. I know, but he still plays a pretty big part and I want to see how it changes when he's not there. Does anyone know whose missions change the least without them? It looks like Zaeed would be a good choice.
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Sep 28, 2012 20:22
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/28/fan-negativity-behind-bioware-founders-departure My bad, here's a new link.
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Sep 28, 2012 20:51
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Really Pants posted:I know, but he still plays a pretty big part and I want to see how it changes when he's not there. Does anyone know whose missions change the least without them? It looks like Zaeed would be a good choice. Ah OK. Jacob, Kasumi or Zaeed difference if dead: Jacob would be replaced by some Dr. Kasumi doesn't appear at all Zaeed replaced by Krogan if not loyal Jacob you lose "the Prize" as war asset Kasumi disappears Zaeed gets killed If you wanna play failshep and not finish Grissom Acedemy you could also use Jack. 
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Sep 28, 2012 21:20
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hwordhan posted:If you wanna play failshep and not finish Grissom Acedemy you could also use Jack. That's what I was thinking earlier; If the only two survivors from ME2 are Morinth and Jack, you also get bonus points for being able to fight both in ME3 when they've been turned into enemies 
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Sep 28, 2012 21:29
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You can always keep Wrex alive so you can shoot both him and Mordin and doom the Krogan.
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Sep 28, 2012 21:46
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Grey Fox V2 posted:You just refuted your own point by referring to her body as "comical." Well, I'm not going to bother with a conversation about hyper sexualized and unrealistically attractive figures in media. It sells, so it isn't going to go away. But to act like it would have made more sense to have the infiltration bot be a plain human than a "hot chick" is just silly.
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Ray and Greg did not leave over negative fan reaction. It's good policy to ignore most of what Trent says unless you see it verified by an independent source. Juc66 fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Sep 29, 2012 |
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Sep 29, 2012 00:06
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skoolmunkee posted:And hey science nerds don't know what boobs feel like so titanium tits surely didn't seem too weird Russad posted:Well, I'm not going to bother with a conversation about hyper sexualized and unrealistically attractive figures in media. It sells, so it isn't going to go away.
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Sep 29, 2012 03:47
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Oh my goodness I just did Citadel: Volus Ambassador (after it broke twice) and it is just the dumbest thing ever. Shepard literally walks past C-Sec headquarters and a dozen armed officers to go deal with this hostage problem alone and unarmed, then just gives up when the Volus ambassador decides to be even more of an rear end in a top hat and put some colony at risk. There's not even an option to argue with him much less punch him in the dick like I wanted to. Add to that Shepard killing two mercs off-screen and it's amazingly clear how little effort went into that quest. Again, broke twice before I finished it. There was nothing to even identify him as the hilariously dolorous Din Korlack from the first game other than his name. Mass Effect 3 why do you hate capitalizing on the previous games' characterization?  I actually prefer spacist hardass Ashley from the first game to the lugubrious yawnfest she is now.
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Arglebargle III posted:Oh my goodness I just did Citadel: Volus Ambassador (after it broke twice) and it is just the dumbest thing ever. Shepard literally walks past C-Sec headquarters and a dozen armed officers to go deal with this hostage problem alone and unarmed, then just gives up when the Volus ambassador decides to be even more of an rear end in a top hat and put some colony at risk. There's not even an option to argue with him much less punch him in the dick like I wanted to. Add to that Shepard killing two mercs off-screen and it's amazingly clear how little effort went into that quest. Again, broke twice before I finished it. That mission is where Zaeed's cameo takes place and it's the worst one out of all of the returning characters and barely makes sense. He's the one who kills the mercs off-screen instead of Shepard and he opens up the ability to argue with the volus and get both rewards. Then he just heads to the docks for the rest of the game and only has a few lines of dialog about the Blue Suns leader. He has a bunch more recorded dialog about why he was with those mercs and about Cerberus but he never seemed to say any of it in the actual game.
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I'm starting to come to the conclusion that all this running around dealing with Cerberus, which is like 70% of what I'm doing, would have been a great Mass Effect 2. My problem with ME2 isn't so much that it is bad as that it isn't where it should be in the story. If ME2 had been Mass Effect: Subtitle I would have virtually zero problems with it. Then all this intrigue and backstabbery could have gone in ME2 and I could spend ME3 fighting Reapers instead of Cerberus. These story elements all work individually I just feel like they need rearranging to work together. Maybe Bioware really needed a story editor. Oh and I'm posting here instead of playing ME3 because the Cerberus Scientists quest broke for the second time. This is making me miss the polish that went into ME2; I don't recall any quests hanging in that game.
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Dr. Abysmal posted:Then he just heads to the docks for the rest of the game and only has a few lines of dialog about the Blue Suns leader. He has a bunch more recorded dialog about why he was with those mercs and about Cerberus but he never seemed to say any of it in the actual game.
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Guys, quick question. After I finished ME3 the first time, I was so disappointed I never came back for the SP DLC/alternative ending. I should still have my savegames, since I synced them in Origin. Do I need to start a new game to get the alternative ending? Is it possible for someone to tell me how it works without spoiling anything?
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richardfun posted:Guys, quick question. After I finished ME3 the first time, I was so disappointed I never came back for the SP DLC/alternative ending. I should still have my savegames, since I synced them in Origin. All you need is a game save that is right before the Priority: Cerberus Headquarters mission. The extended cut DLC is all after that point, and if you want to do Leviathan, you can finish that before launching the endgame.
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Gordon Shumway posted:All you need is a game save that is right before the Priority: Cerberus Headquarters mission. The extended cut DLC is all after that point, and if you want to do Leviathan, you can finish that before launching the endgame. Cheers. So, getting the alternative ending is not contingent on playing the Leviathan DLC? And Leviathan will simply show up as a new quest in your log/on the map? Also, I assume since the DLC is free, Origin has updated my copy of ME3 automatically? Or do I need to download and install it manually? Edit: Nm, I'm an idiot. I thought Leviathan was free. Is it worth it?
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Sep 30, 2012 13:32
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richardfun posted:Cheers. Leviathan is solid DLC. Not Shadowbroker, more like Overlord, but worth the money. You have to install the Extended Cut as well, it doesn't update automatically. If you load the savegame, Traynor will tell you that you've got unread messages.
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hwordhan posted:Leviathan is solid DLC. Not Shadowbroker, more like Overlord, but worth the money. Ah, so Origin still sucks. I can get the extended cut from the Bioware website, like other DLC's?
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Sep 30, 2012 13:46
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richardfun posted:So, getting the alternative ending is not contingent on playing the Leviathan DLC? And Leviathan will simply show up as a new quest in your log/on the map? quote:Also, I assume since the DLC is free, Origin has updated my copy of ME3 automatically? Or do I need to download and install it manually?
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richardfun posted:Ah, so Origin still sucks. I can get the extended cut from the Bioware website, like other DLC's? Nah, you just need to right-click on your ME3 icon in Origin -> Shop For Add-ons and "purchase" the EC DLC for $0, then install it.
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Again, thanks guys. Guess I'm going to buy Leviathan. Wish they would let us pay with actual currency instead of going through the hassle with funbucks...
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Sep 30, 2012 13:57
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Leviathan is pretty cool. The only problem with it was that I accidentally unplugged my laptop right at the end of the quest and I was bitching at the game for the lovely framerate until I quit out to try to fix it and realized I was on battery. I blame EDI.
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Leviathan is good stuff but there's one thing you really ought to know: at one point early on, you have to fight(no story spoilers here but maybe people might not like going into fights knowing what they're up against, I don't fuckin' know) two Banshees in very tight quarters where they can easily melee-instakill everyone in short order. Look for the Reaper Blackstar. Don't desperately spam Warp, Overload, Charge and Nova and die like a dumbass twelve times and then trip over the Blackstar after it's all over. You know, the way I did.
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One last question. I really don't feel like playing MP for a few days to get my readiness rating up. Will I be able to get the alternative ending with readiness only at 50%?
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richardfun posted:One last question. I really don't feel like playing MP for a few days to get my readiness rating up. Will I be able to get the alternative ending with readiness only at 50%? To get absolutely all the options and the "best" consequences for the endings you will require an EMS of 3,100 points, so if you can achieve that (6,200 points) with only in-game assets (which should be possible, I think) then you'll be fine. That said, the one alternative ending the EC provides should be available regardless of EMS points I think. EMS should only affect stuff like Shepard surviving when picking Destroy, or Synthesis being available, and of course the aftermath slides / scenes after picking an option.
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Lycus posted:Yeah, it was so weird how he never gets around to telling the meat of that story. Is there more in the game files? Yep, he has a decent amount of lines in his folder that seem to have gone unused, or maybe he's bugged to never talk like the engineers were. He also talks about Vido's fate if you let him escape in ME2 (I don't know if he actually says that in the game because I never let Vido escape). Arglebargle III posted:Leviathan is pretty cool. The only problem with it was that I accidentally unplugged my laptop right at the end of the quest and I was bitching at the game for the lovely framerate until I quit out to try to fix it and realized I was on battery. I blame EDI. If you had framerate problems right during the ending cutscene I think it was an issue with the game and not with your laptop since I got that too and I play on a desktop. The FPS dropped so severely that it failed to play the entire cutscene before it moved on to the part on the shuttle with my first character. Second attempt worked fine so I don't know what went wrong.
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richardfun posted:One last question. I really don't feel like playing MP for a few days to get my readiness rating up. Will I be able to get the alternative ending with readiness only at 50%? Yes, you can get the required maximum EMS fairly easily. And getting readiness up isn't really that time consuming. I got mine to 100% in a day.
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Well, that was a fairly awesome piece of DLC, especially the extra storyline stuff at the end. Did a quick google search, but there's no new info on upcoming SP DLC, right?
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From a recent Bioware blog post:Bioware blog posted:We are releasing more multiplayer content and we have more single-player stories coming throughout the next six months, including Omega which is coming in the Fall. I think that's the most recent info on it.
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