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Zarkov Cortez
Aug 18, 2007

Alas, our kitten class attack ships were no match for their mighty chairs

HiddenReplaced posted:

When the interviewer asks her where she sees herself in 5 years, don't say "loving your wife."

What if they're into that?

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MoFauxHawk
Jan 1, 2007

Mickey Mouse copyright
Walt Gisnep
I thought the guy said he already did all the office visiting and this is going to be a phone conversation with the boss.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King
This is now the thread wherein to ask Captain Scraps how not to ingrate one's self with court staff.

Omerta
Feb 19, 2007

I thought short arms were good for benching :smith:
Got my hair cut today and my hairdresser had a JD from a pretty decent school.

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


Zarkov Cortez posted:

What if they're into that?

Then the correct response would be "I don't know, but I do know I'll be loving your wife tonight."

Unless they're not currently into that but will be in five years in which case :psyduck:

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
"Divorced, Alcoholic and Depressed. I'm a realist."

Lemonus
Apr 25, 2005

Return dignity to the art of loafing.
RE ^

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005


A double bar! :getin:

Linguica
Jul 13, 2000
You're already dead

Found a book to go on the shelf next to that witness one

Zarkov Cortez
Aug 18, 2007

Alas, our kitten class attack ships were no match for their mighty chairs
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/420504/october-23-2012/john-grisham

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005


Grisham does appear to have a "Must kill off at least one judge per book" policy going on.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE
Someone should be feeling real bad in Atlanta right now:

quote:

'Sovereign Citizens' cleared of taking foreclosed homes
DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. — A DeKalb County jury acquitted three men accused of racketeering after they were arrested for signing fake deeds to themselves and then moving into foreclosed homes.
...
Eliyshuwa Yisrael acted as his own defense attorney in the case, which also included Jermaine Gibson and Richard Jenkins. Each man was charged with two RICO counts.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/sovereign-citizens-acquitted-taking-foreclosed-hom/nSncr/

CmdrSmirnoff
Oct 27, 2005
happy happy happy happy happy happy happy happy happy

Linguica posted:

Found a book to go on the shelf next to that witness one



"I really want a copy of this as a gift for a gay lawyer I know. Better reverse GIS it."

Google posted:

No other sizes of this image found.
Best guess for this image: gay porn book
[gay porn pictures]

:staredog:

Lemonus
Apr 25, 2005

Return dignity to the art of loafing.

Linguica posted:

Found a book to go on the shelf next to that witness one



Eh? Whats the book actually like?



As a bit of a Classics follow on from the last thing I wrote RE Cicero some might people might enjoy this:

http://officialinformationact.blogspot.co.nz/2012/10/in-matter-of-dead-language-v-lawyers.html

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Lemonus posted:

Eh? Whats the book actually like?

Given that it's labeled "Finest Adult Reading" and subtitled "With ACTUAL CASES and dramatizations of acts that led to conviction" I'd say its porn, but with the slightest veneer of quasi-respectability, given that it's from the pre-Stonewall days.

Walamor
Dec 31, 2006

Fork 'em Devils!
So I went to visit the Hamilton County Public Defender's office in Cincinnati today, which was really interesting, but what shocked me was how underfunded they are and how insanely underfunded they used to be. They were talking about how it's difficult for them right now because they all have cubicles so it's hard to talk on the phone/talk to clients about confidential matters, but it's still much better than last year when each of their computers had to be shared by 2 attorneys. That seems insane, both for confidentiality and quality of work life reasons! Hamilton County is not a small county either. Is this relatively normal across the country or is this a more extreme example?

Werix
Sep 13, 2012

#acolyte GM of 2013
It's the same thing up here in Wisconsin, both the public defenders and the DA offices are really strapped. Way it works up here is that the state decides how many PD's and ADA's each county has, the the state hasn't been bumping it up. The DA of Sheboygan County where I am has been complaining for years how he is understaffed and has had to stop prosecuting some minor crimes. After I was sworn in there was a PD rep. at the reception that basically said in this county they are over-strapped and are looking for more private attorneys to get certified to get put on the assigned counsel list. Lady basically begged me to get certified, but where am I to meet any clients I have that can make bail, my parent's garage?

Its a real shame, since PD and ADA positions have always been a great place for lawyers to get a start; most of my friends that have got a lawyer job post graduation has been PD's or ADAs. Plus I'd love to get in to either one and do my ten years for the loan forgiveness.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Walamor posted:

So I went to visit the Hamilton County Public Defender's office in Cincinnati today, which was really interesting, but what shocked me was how underfunded they are and how insanely underfunded they used to be. They were talking about how it's difficult for them right now because they all have cubicles so it's hard to talk on the phone/talk to clients about confidential matters, but it's still much better than last year when each of their computers had to be shared by 2 attorneys. That seems insane, both for confidentiality and quality of work life reasons! Hamilton County is not a small county either. Is this relatively normal across the country or is this a more extreme example?

I have my own office and a window! And my own computer. And use of a county car that I share with only 2 other people.

However, I also am on track for 1000 cases this year. Admittedly, my case load requires less time that felonies per case, but still. I still meet virtually all my clients in jail before the first appearance though, in fact, I am waiting to get into another jail right now.

Generally in CA:
PD is chronically underfunded while the DA is merely underfunded.

Solid Lizzie
Sep 26, 2011

Forbes or GTFO

Walamor posted:

So I went to visit the Hamilton County Public Defender's office in Cincinnati today, which was really interesting, but what shocked me was how underfunded they are and how insanely underfunded they used to be. They were talking about how it's difficult for them right now because they all have cubicles so it's hard to talk on the phone/talk to clients about confidential matters, but it's still much better than last year when each of their computers had to be shared by 2 attorneys. That seems insane, both for confidentiality and quality of work life reasons! Hamilton County is not a small county either. Is this relatively normal across the country or is this a more extreme example?
I interned at the DA's one fall. The outside building is nice, but the DAs in Monroe County are all shoved in what feels like a cement prison. That said, their individual offices are big/furnished enough, though there is a distinct lack of windows, for sure. As an aside, I had just come off a gig where I managed all the research for scientists/engineers at a BigPharm company, and they had utilized this really nice intranet server. Also, due to audit concerns, the maintenance of these documents had been meticulous. In comparison, while at the DAs, everything felt like a circus. Most of this is the nature of having such a fast/heavy caseload, but I couldn't help but feel like the entire office could benefit from something similar, as so many DAs needed to access the same document (physical copy) at once and had little to no personal file system.

And that's when I decided that wasn't really my scene.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Solid Lizzie posted:

I interned at the DA's one fall. The outside building is nice, but the DAs in Monroe County are all shoved in what feels like a cement prison. That said, their individual offices are big/furnished enough, though there is a distinct lack of windows, for sure.

This is more of a government office building problem. They're generally designed to be filled in the middle with drones and a few managers get the windows. They're not designed for a law office.

I have seen such a mix of offices between very nice to being in a basement.
Very little to do with funding and more to do with who build new county buildings more recently. (The highest pay by far was at the worst office.)
The real problem is staffing and to a lesser extent systems (however, many counties have learned that better systems means less support staff and long term savings). Those come from a completely different budget than buildings.

Agesilaus
Jan 27, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post

nm posted:

This is more of a government office building problem. They're generally designed to be filled in the middle with drones and a few managers get the windows. They're not designed for a law office.

I've had offices in two county buildings in Cook County, and I've always had windows the length and size of one of the walls. Maybe we just have good buildings here (actually the current building I'm in is as ugly as sin), but windows aren't unusual. The building I'm in right now has windows for every prosecutor. I was previously in the Daley Centre, which has a handful of central, windowless offices. One little, boiling-hot, windowless office was affectionately called the sweat shop and had four prosecutors churning out briefs.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Agesilaus posted:

One little, boiling-hot, windowless office was affectionately called the sweat shop and had four prosecutors churning out briefs.

You guys need a union.

Agesilaus
Jan 27, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post

nm posted:

You guys need a union.

Right next door was a windowless closet called the boom boom room with a basketball ring and 2 prosecutors churning out briefs. Interns and bar takers got one of the few cubicles. Thankfully when I was sworn in I got a desk in the office called the penthouse with the wall-sized window overlooking city hall/county building.

Now I have an office elsewhere that has been decorated by co-workers because maybe I possibly said some negative things about america. I have a giant inflatable statue of liberty behind my chair, a huge american flag over my window, a crying eagle desktop image, flags sticky taped all over my computer and desk, a giant pledge of allegiance mural, my chair was draped in a flag and then it was gaffer taped so I can't remove it, etc. Tragic.

Agesilaus fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Oct 27, 2012

El_Elegante
Jul 3, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Biscuit Hider
But was there an affectionate nickname for the place where you took your shits?

tau
Mar 20, 2003

Sigillum Universitatis Kansiensis

El_Elegante posted:

But was there an affectionate nickname for the place where you took your shits?

Ellis Island.

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


nm posted:

This is more of a government office building problem. They're generally designed to be filled in the middle with drones and a few managers get the windows. They're not designed for a law office.

Sometimes the lack of windows is intentional, too. At my federal job, I have a windowless office...even though I have an external wall. :raise: In the "sour grapes" category though, I've really appreciated it this past week since I haven't been distracted by beautiful fall days.

Agesilaus posted:

Now I have an office elsewhere that has been decorated by co-workers because maybe I possibly said some negative things about america. I have a giant inflatable statue of liberty behind my chair, a huge american flag over my window, a crying eagle desktop image, flags sticky taped all over my computer and desk, a giant pledge of allegiance mural, my chair was draped in a flag and then it was gaffer taped so I can't remove it, etc. Tragic.

Sounds like you have some pretty great co-workers.

Omerta
Feb 19, 2007

I thought short arms were good for benching :smith:

Agesilaus posted:

Right next door was a windowless closet called the boom boom room with a basketball ring and 2 prosecutors churning out briefs. Interns and bar takers got one of the few cubicles. Thankfully when I was sworn in I got a desk in the office called the penthouse with the wall-sized window overlooking city hall/county building.

Now I have an office elsewhere that has been decorated by co-workers because maybe I possibly said some negative things about america. I have a giant inflatable statue of liberty behind my chair, a huge american flag over my window, a crying eagle desktop image, flags sticky taped all over my computer and desk, a giant pledge of allegiance mural, my chair was draped in a flag and then it was gaffer taped so I can't remove it, etc. Tragic.

lmao I hope that's true because that owns.

Feces Starship
Nov 11, 2008

in the great green room
goodnight moon
feces pass bar

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Omerta posted:

lmao I hope that's true because that owns.
I want a picture if true.

Green Crayons
Apr 2, 2009
You are now one of Them. Congrats!

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


Werix posted:

Sheboygan County where I am

Goondolences. There was a radio segment on some Milwaukee morning show where they would get clippings of ridiculous, white trash-y stories from the paper there and callers would vote on which was "more Sheboygan".

Solid Lizzie
Sep 26, 2011

Forbes or GTFO

AgentSythe posted:

Goondolences. There was a radio segment on some Milwaukee morning show where they would get clippings of ridiculous, white trash-y stories from the paper there and callers would vote on which was "more Sheboygan".
Completely unrelated: In Bruges is a great loving movie. A+ avatar.

Also, congrats on the bar passage, Feces.

Werix
Sep 13, 2012

#acolyte GM of 2013

AgentSythe posted:

Goondolences. There was a radio segment on some Milwaukee morning show where they would get clippings of ridiculous, white trash-y stories from the paper there and callers would vote on which was "more Sheboygan".

Yeah, apparently that all started while I was down in Florida going to law school, so I never heard about it until I got back this past May after graduating. Also hello fellow Wisconsin lawyer goon?

Congrats Feces, I'm guessing since you found out this late you either took it in Georgia(like many of my friends from my Florida law school) or California?

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Werix posted:

Congrats Feces, I'm guessing since you found out this late you either took it in Georgia(like many of my friends from my Florida law school) or California?

CA won't be out until Thanksgiving

Cormack
Apr 29, 2009

nm posted:

CA won't be out until Thanksgiving

Well, the weekend before Thanksgiving. The great twist of the knife after waiting four months for results is that they come out right before a bit family holiday. Fun times for those who fail and then get together with their families 4 days later.

Werix
Sep 13, 2012

#acolyte GM of 2013

nm posted:

CA won't be out until Thanksgiving

Ah, I knew California was later in the year, not that late. I don't have any friends from my law school that were from California. But yeah, that's the most sucky time for bar results to come out. Guessing it is due to the volume of bar takers out there.

Agesilaus
Jan 27, 2012

by Y Kant Ozma Post

nm posted:

I want a picture if true.

Here's one. I have a better one showing more, but I'm in it so yeah

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Agesilaus fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Oct 28, 2012

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005


Truly, the embodiment of :911: - congrats!

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

Feces Starship posted:

feces pass bar

congrats :unsmith:

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nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Agesilaus posted:

Here's one. I have a better one showing more, but I'm in it so yeah



That poo poo is funny.

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