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Coach Sport posted:Jones is immortal. My theory is that she's the product of some misguided court immortality/godhood experiment that went terribly wrong and resulted in her living forever. Literally forever, so she retroactively exists at every moment in time back to the formation of the universe. Having accidentally and irrevocably altered human history and the fundamental nature of reality forever, the court swears off this etheric science nonsense and decides to achieve their quest to become gods through the much safer avenue of robots. Really liking this theory. Wondering now if she'll actually float in space being bored during the big bang. Whomever first jokingly said that might have made the perfect call.
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Bongo Bill posted:I suddenly remember that Coyote told Annie to ask Jones about "the stars in the night sky." We haven't seen any night skies yet this chapter. 'Oh yeah, I remember hanging out with them. Kinda boring and full of hot gas though.'
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Nov 2, 2012 08:43
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Either she was buried for a time, or she's being Born From Stone right now.
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Nov 2, 2012 08:43
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My bet is that Jones is somehow related to the power of the mind Coyote was talking about. In this page he mentions a stone, a diseased eye, and the shape of a woman in the space of a couple sentences. Maybe it was Jones's mind that made humans look like they do, but she doesn't strike me as particularly emotional or curious, like the dying guy in Coyote's story, so that could be a problem. And I wonder if humans are etheric enough to be effected. Also these pages are so drat pretty. 
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Nov 2, 2012 08:53
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toxic8aker posted:Really liking this theory. Wondering now if she'll actually float in space being bored during the big bang. Whomever first jokingly said that might have made the perfect call. AE-35 Unit posted:Wednesday's comic will just be Jones drifting along in space at the beginning of the universe. It'd be a month late, but I'll take it.  One thing I noticed is that whenever Annie talks with Coyote about certain creation stories, whether it's the stars in the sky or creating people, the Great Spirit is always depicted as a single eye, and not in Coyote's typical eye style, either. The only thing really keeping me from thinking that Jones is possibly the Great Spirit in some form is that Coyote specifically said "him". Jones being a deity of some sort wouldn't necessarily run foul of the "existing mythology" thing, either. It might also help explain exactly what Jones meant by saying "you know I can take her if I wish" to Coyote. Or I'm terrible at guessing upcoming plot twists and there's time travel. Whichever.
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Nov 2, 2012 08:54
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This recent comic also seems to indicate that Jones is much, much older than Coyote, since Coyote was supposedly created by the minds of man, and man didn't exist at this current point in the flashback.
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Nov 2, 2012 09:10
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If the theory that etherical creations are born retroactively holds true, maybe the stars exist because man dreamed the points of light in the night sky into being and they were created as giant balls of fusion gas in the distant universe in the past. I dunno, I'm just kinda wondering why Coyote wanted Annie to ask about stars.
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Nov 2, 2012 09:14
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Zorak posted:drat it Nigel Marvin. He truly is The Worst Time Traveller. Fried Chicken posted:Mixopterus, a member of the eurypterid genus for those who care. And the pointy thing in the first panel is an orthocone of some sort. My first guess was a belemnite but they're from completely the wrong era. So yeah, Jones status: Still old, wet. Is that just sediment she's buried in or solid rock? If it's rock then that would mean it's eroded away and left her hair unscathed.
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Nov 2, 2012 09:24
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What is Jones? Jones IS. Seriously, she has been forever. Th really interesting thing about this page is the way some of her hair is protruding from the sediment (sedimentary rock?!), like it was laid down over her whilst she just stood there, hair wafting in the current... The really interesting question is how much of this Jones can *remember*...
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Nov 2, 2012 09:59
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Jones is a meteor. She landed on earth billions of years ago. That is why she sinks like a rock.
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Nov 2, 2012 10:08
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Jones killed the dinosaurs.
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Nov 2, 2012 10:10
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That's what they get for trying to bite her.
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Nov 2, 2012 10:19
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I love how every new page completely trashes half of the theories posted during the previous. She just won't stop being older and older! I still think she's a time traveler though.
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Nov 2, 2012 10:22
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AE-35 Unit posted:This recent comic also seems to indicate that Jones is much, much older than Coyote, since Coyote was supposedly created by the minds of man, and man didn't exist at this current point in the flashback.
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Nov 2, 2012 10:25
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thespaceinvader posted:What is Jones? Jones IS. So one eon she was just so bored she fell asleep long enough for continents to shift, an ocean to form, and sediment to almost cover her?
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Nov 2, 2012 10:32
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Secret Spoon posted:Jones killed the dinosaurs. Too early for that. Maybe she landed on a pre-biotic earth, and all life is descended from microbes on her skin.
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Nov 2, 2012 10:36
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Guys, the answer is much easier than all that. Jones is obviously coral.
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Nov 2, 2012 10:38
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The comic will cut back to the present, right after Annie asked her question. Jones will speak. "...I forgot"
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Nov 2, 2012 10:50
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Jones is the seed around which the Earth formed. She's just lucky that she's lighter than her own volume in iron, or she'd be REALLY bored.
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Nov 2, 2012 11:03
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As a current reader, I can't say I've enjoyed the past, what, two weeks of this or so? Just because it's starting to get old and I'm impatient for Annie to get her question answered. As someone who is going to buy the books in the future, I am enjoying the everloving poo poo out of it though. And that's good enough for me.
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Nov 2, 2012 11:22
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At least the current arc does a lot to answer the last panel of this page. Jones saying she's never seen something before means a whole lot because she's been around for everything.
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Nov 2, 2012 11:27
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Wrist Watch posted:As a current reader, I can't say I've enjoyed the past, what, two weeks of this or so? Just because it's starting to get old and I'm impatient for Annie to get her question answered. As someone who is going to buy the books in the future, I am enjoying the everloving poo poo out of it though. Yeah, I went back and read this chapter and the last one just to see how it would look to an archive reader and it is amazing. I guess it's just one of those situations where Tom had to choose between the update-by-update readers and the archive readers, and in the end, the latter is really more important. Especially as GC seems to be getting more and more popular by the day. (Yay!) I won't make a bet as to what Jones is because I hate losing bets.  giant trilobyte in a latex human suit
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Nov 2, 2012 11:28
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Suaimhneas posted:So one eon she was just so bored she fell asleep long enough for continents to shift, an ocean to form, and sediment to almost cover her? Sleep? Why would she sleep?
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Nov 2, 2012 11:37
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Do you have any idea how dull bacteria are? She was bored to sleep.
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Nov 2, 2012 11:42
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I'd find it rather poetic if Jones was around for the creation of the universe and she wept at the beauty of it. The reason she's been so unemotional since is that nothing can compare to it. We should really just stop speculating and wait for the end of this chapter, shouldn't we?
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Nov 2, 2012 12:04
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Welp, Jones is Cthulhu.
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Nov 2, 2012 13:12
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This reminds me of the Calvin and Hobbes arc where Calvin keeps growing bigger and bigger each panel*. I remember reading something by Bill Watterson where he said he wanted to see how long he could get away with it before people complained, but got bored with it and stopped. If this comic wasn't drawn months in advance that is totally the sort of thing I would think was happening here. As it is my guess is the next panel shows a spaceship carrying Jones crashing into the Earth with the bacteria on it creating life, and the panel before that shows her being launched from Krypton. *The first place I could find the strip was actually here
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Nov 2, 2012 13:20
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So is the chapter going to end on Monday with "I honestly don't know." ?
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Nov 2, 2012 13:55
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SynthOrange posted:Do you have any idea how dull bacteria are? She was bored to sleep. Have we ever actually seen any evidence that Jones sleeps?
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thespaceinvader posted:Have we ever actually seen any evidence that Jones sleeps? Not yet. I think the closest we've seen to actual "sleeping" for Jones was her hanging around with Eglamore, and he was the one sleeping. She just decided to read a book. Maybe she can sleep, but I'm assuming that she really doesn't need it at all. I've actually been wondering if she even needs to eat. Or have fun. Or do well, anything, really. Living millions of years waiting for someone to talk to couldn't have been that interesting.
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Nov 2, 2012 14:21
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GENUINE CAT HERDER posted:Not yet. I think the closest we've seen to actual "sleeping" for Jones was her hanging around with Eglamore, and he was the one sleeping. She just decided to read a book. That was Eglamore? http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=1097 His nose and hair look different.
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At this point, I'm not sure concepts like "interesting" and "boring" could possibly have any meaning for her. This also explains why Annie was having trouble understanding before. How could anybody who might live a hundred years, maximum, comprehend someone like Jones?Freudian posted:That was Eglamore? http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=1097 His nose and hair look different. ...did you just unironically ask if that guy was Eglamore? (It is.)
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Buff Skeleton posted:Welp, Jones is Cthulhu. If she is then I called this like 6 months ago 
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:So is the chapter going to end on Monday with "I honestly don't know." ? "It's a long story."
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FronzelNeekburm posted:Jones is a meteor. She landed on earth billions of years ago. That is why she sinks like a rock. Gunnerkrigg Court is in continuity with Homestuck. Jones was in one of the meteors.
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Bongo Bill posted:If not time travel, it suggests that humans were destined to appear on earth, which is fitting given all the gods we got running around in this comic. Jones clearly anticipated humanity. Although the majority of her life was spent prior to humans existing, she's human enough to care very deeply for humans (though it does seem significant that there don't appear to have ever been any little Joneslings). http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=1097 Night sky.
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The go-to explanation so far has been that Jones has something to do with the ether, but now I wonder if she represents a different order of reality,, one that hasn't yet been introduced in the comic. Where the ether is a realm of thought, imagination, and constant flux, Jones is a product of a purely "material" realm, fixed and unchanging, and the Universe is the place where these two domains overlap. (Basically like the D&D conception of the Astral/Outer Planes and Ethereal/Inner Planes.) This still gets back to the issue of why she looks humans before humans existed, though, so there may be some etheric element, or the "material" realm she represents is a place of Platonic ideals (sort of) and the burgeoning complexity of life sort of shaped itself around her. (Just kicking an idea around; don't mean to open any cans of worms about blonde Caucasian women being "the ideal" human) Also I thought that page with Eggers sleeping in her lap made it pretty clear she doesn't sleep or eat (only one plate on the floor, obviously Eglamore's, alongside the dropped newspaper -- which itself may sort of highlight the difference between James, a human, reading a newspaper, a transient source of information, while Jones reads a book, something more long-lived in its utility).
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Nov 2, 2012 15:09
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Was it so much to ask, Tom? Just one panel of Jones riding a dinosaur? It was right there on the side of the road, but noooo. You just kept on driving.
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Nov 2, 2012 15:15
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I always thought that the court/forest situation looked like some kind of proxy war between Coyote and some unknown force; maybe we're seeing the other side of that equation now. A conditionally existing trickster vs some kind of universal constant?
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Yonic Symbolism posted:Gunnerkrigg Court is in continuity with Homestuck. Jones was in one of the meteors. Then her origin is that she's a clone of herself. Another mystery solved!
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