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Bstyles posted:This happened a few days ago but 50 Cent and Floyd Mayweather Jr. are now over. http://web.stagram.com/p/316244311971165531_16264572 http://web.stagram.com/p/316250900568438184_16264572 http://web.stagram.com/p/316259888064329198_16264572
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50 and Floyd's beef is staged and has nothing to do with nothing. Check out https://www.tmz.com for information.
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temple posted:50 and Floyd's beef is staged and has nothing to do with nothing. Of course it is staged. Re: Mic Tyson... it would be a stellar mixtape, but as a proper album it is a little underwhelming even though I dig most of the tracks. And speaking of which, what are people feeling is the best mixtape of the year so far? I would say BFK.
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Wezlar posted:http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2012/11/02/onyx-belly-of-the-beast-video/ Holy poo poo I had no idea these guys were still going. This song is good.
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https://twitter.com/MetroZU/status/264791207845179392 Zuology dropped. Jumping around, production continues to be top notch. EDIT: Poppin Pussy Handstand and Smellin Like A Pimp are awesome Boywhiz88 fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Nov 3, 2012 |
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http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2012/11/02/juicy-j-know-betta-f-wiz-khalifa/ Juicy J going off
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thathonkey posted:He found some promo copies for cheap but they don't have the cover or any liner notes etc. that might have come with the proper release. http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?release_id=260210&ev=rb Here are some regular copies for cheap. Lord Willin on vinyl is not worth $100, seriously people
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Big Ghost just reviewed Dreams and Nightmares: http://bigghostnahmean.blogspot.com/quote:Ion even got nothin against Cyhi...but son is like a Zune among iPods b. Lemme ask you this...whats yall favorite Cyhi joint? .................................(aight ya ten minutes is up)... edit: haha there's a Mic Tyson review at the end too Muck and Mire fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Nov 3, 2012 |
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Muck and Mire posted:Big Ghost just reviewed Dreams and Nightmares: http://bigghostnahmean.blogspot.com/ He knows he's James Harden right now.
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Boywhiz88 posted:Alley Boy and Gunplay? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHa2p8zWmRc Gunplay hasn't got a new MMG chain yet? Gunplays definitely my favorite rapper right now.
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Speakz kills all of the features I've heard from him (like 4 total though). Does he have any solo material worth checking out? ex:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEWWCPuDGo8(second dude) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5h2uG018tI Tolkien minority fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Nov 4, 2012 |
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Muck and Mire posted:Big Ghost just reviewed Dreams and Nightmares: http://bigghostnahmean.blogspot.com/ He always finds the funniest loving pictures of Drake haha
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Wezlar posted:Volume 1 has a lot more Sandman and Liva, and is just not as good in general. Still a solid mixtape, but vol 2 is one of the better mixtapes ever (that doesn't have all original beats) in my opinion. No way, WGI4C vol 1 has some of the greatest Clipse tracks of all time. Re-Up Anthem, Queen Bitch, Pussy, I Shot Ya.. The volume 2 Intro is dope though, and Show You How To Hustle has one of the best Ab-Liva verses too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao0Y7mNWVM4 It's about time we get another Re-Up Gang mixtape.
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Has anyone been listening to the new POS? I'm still not sure how to feel about it. On some tracks (like Get Down) it feels like such a huge departure from the Doomtree vibe that it's throwing me off. I'm not used to these guys writing club bangers, but on further listens I've realized that if I'm listening to club bangers I prefer this over most of the other stuff coming out these days. Then, on the other hand, there's some classic POS tracks, like gently caress Your Stuff which is basically the polar opposite of Get Down in message. Overall the whole thing feels like it's more focused on making music for clubs/parties, as opposed to his older albums like Never Better (my personal favorite) and Ipecac Neat which were more socially conscious records about life and love and social injustice. This is disappointing but I'm not sure if it makes me dislike the album. It's much more high-energy and some of the party songs (like Weird Friends) are pretty experimental and interesting and I can't stop listening to them just because they're such a huge departure from everything else I've heard recently. Here's my favorite track from Never Better for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0U5TXgdOmk
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Blunt Force Trauma posted:Has anyone been listening to the new POS? I'm still not sure how to feel about it. On some tracks (like Get Down) it feels like such a huge departure from the Doomtree vibe that it's throwing me off. I'm not used to these guys writing club bangers, but on further listens I've realized that if I'm listening to club bangers I prefer this over most of the other stuff coming out these days. Then, on the other hand, there's some classic POS tracks, like gently caress Your Stuff which is basically the polar opposite of Get Down in message. I haven't listened to any of POS solo stuff post Never Better, but I love it/Ipecac Neat/Audition. It definitely has a different vibe but it's still p. hot. POS started out sounding really grimy on Ipecac neat/Audition and this sounds a lot more focused and commercial, but thats not necessarily a bad thing. Going to check out the new album now. You can only rap about being pissed off at the world for so long until it gets stale, like I didn't feel that "gently caress your stuff" song at all as it sounds way too polished for what hes going for. compare to like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSLUC3r2yHs or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpS6puwwdEk Tolkien minority fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Nov 4, 2012 |
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I was trying to download a mixtape from livemixtapes.com and the website was trying to make me download some kind of program before I downloaded and then wanted me to give my cell phone number and send me a password to my phone to confirm the password so they can send me "important messages about updates about mixtapes coming out" . I am assuming the site it just for your listening pleasure and not for downloading to your computer? It just screams scams and or spyware to me. Anyone ever downloaded from this site?
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Bstyles posted:I was trying to download a mixtape from livemixtapes.com and the website was trying to make me download some kind of program before I downloaded and then wanted me to give my cell phone number and send me a password to my phone to confirm the password so they can send me "important messages about updates about mixtapes coming out" . I am assuming the site it just for your listening pleasure and not for downloading to your computer? It just screams scams and or spyware to me. Anyone ever downloaded from this site? Is there something you couldn't find on datpiff.com? The website is probably trying to sign you up for some stupid crap, like monthly ringtone charges.
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obi_ant posted:Is there something you couldn't find on datpiff.com? The website is probably trying to sign you up for some stupid crap, like monthly ringtone charges. I haven't heard of that site man. Thanks so much brother. EDIT: Damnn!!! Download Error Looks like you followed an expired link. EDIT 2: Found the mixtape on download at mixtapeleak.com ! Thanks again. Bstyles fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Nov 4, 2012 |
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Don Trip - "War" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvfFAicpBlk Hardest song of the year from a mixtape. No ifs, ands, or buts.  What a loving beat! EDIT: After the hook, the second verse just goes off. "This is not about violence This song is a metaphor, I'm not a tyrant The rap game is unsafe as long as I'm in I'm about to bring you to your throat, no violence!" Bstyles fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Nov 4, 2012 |
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temple posted:50 and Floyd's beef is staged and has nothing to do with nothing. Check out https://www.tmz.com for information. Damnet! I guess it is staged to promote that WWE event. Mayweather deleted all his posts so his facebook so his "last update" was a photo with that wrestler HHH back in August. I need to start watching more TV or something. EDIT: Those smart mother fuckers. Wonder how much him and 50 getting paid for that. Bstyles fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Nov 4, 2012 |
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i'm actually pretty impressed with the new earl track. first off i'm glad all of OF's backpedaling about their idiot teenager lyrics has materialized into something and although i've been bored of the rest of them for a while now i feel like earl still has something left to show and hinted at it here. if he puts out a whole lp like this i would dig it.
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I dig Earl a lot. He reminds me a lot of the 90's rappers, the 5%'ers. He speaks on his thoughts and his thoughts aren't only about himself. You look at introspective guys now, like Kanye or Lupe or Drake or even Donald. But they are talk about emotions and they seem to only talk about themselves. Lupe sorta dips into preaching because he is telling people what to think or do. The 5%'ers brought a lot of humility to hiphop and we made a hard left away from that. People like Kanye or Drake or even Tyler don't come out of that culture and it shows. Cats like Q-Tip, Ghost, Rakim weren't going to tell you what to do only what they were doing. They shared their perspective and let you decide. That kind of mutual respect is missing. Everyone isn't dumb and doesn't need a preacher or politician. Just share your knowledge. Earl gets that and it cool to hear a young dudes POV. That BigGhost review of Dreams and Nightmares brings up the point of hiphop having many young rappers but I don't feel like I know them at all. What does Meek Mill really think about his world? Not so much fame but just how his thought process works. Talking about money or fame isn't real just like violence and drug pushing isn't real. There is a lot of posturing and despite how the younger gen tries to rebel against the older, they still posture in their own way. Earl not sprung on himself or his success to the point that he can't share his thoughts. And unlike the Based God, he can articulate himself well.
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a false posted:i'm actually pretty impressed with the new earl track. first off i'm glad all of OF's backpedaling about their idiot teenager lyrics has materialized into something and although i've been bored of the rest of them for a while now i feel like earl still has something left to show and hinted at it here. if he puts out a whole lp like this i would dig it. Yeah I've not been digging the new Earl at all. Dude sounds like he's sleepwalking through his tracks. All his new stuff he hasn't really sounded like he wants to be rapping, all his stuff just sounds lifeless and seems to lack a lot of the energy and technique he had before. And the whole backpedaling stuff just honestly comes of as some music gentrification, and doesn't sound sincere to me AT ALL. Especially since it was only really Tyler and Earl who were saying the stuff white people complained about (and they were the ones who got the most attention). What seems especially telling to me is that it's only the (white woman) rape and gay poo poo that gets called out. Hell, the video they released last for their group mixtape had Domo slapping a black girl and turn her into a smiling Asian chick, which of course nobody gave a gently caress about because the image of blacks or race issues haven't been trendy since the early 70's. temple posted:I dig Earl a lot. He reminds me a lot of the 90's rappers, the 5%'ers. He speaks on his thoughts and his thoughts aren't only about himself. You look at introspective guys now, like Kanye or Lupe or Drake or even Donald. But they are talk about emotions and they seem to only talk about themselves. Lupe sorta dips into preaching because he is telling people what to think or do. Also, who cares what Meek Mill thinks about the world? At least, outside of what he's saying in his rhymes?
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alansmithee posted:See a lot of this is romanticizing the past. And you kinda contradict yourself. Like, you talk about dudes who are introspective but say all they talk about is their feelings and themselves. Then you say you don't know what dudes think about the world, because they don't talk about their thoughts and stuff. Also you named like some of the least humble dudes to try to prove your point about 5%ers (although iirc I don't think Q-Tip was even a 5%er). And you totally seemed to ignore TDE/Black Hippy, who are all young dudes who seem to embody the very thing you're trying to imply. There is a difference between talking about your emotions and your thoughts. Hiphop and culture in general is way too emotional right now. I don't need another Kanye West hemming and hawing about his feelings or all this vain self aggrandizing under the banner of introspection. Romanticizing the past. Ha, the past is making GBS threads the future right now. Thank god for Kendrick Lamer. edit: I care what Meek Mill thinks. temple fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Nov 4, 2012 |
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temple posted:I don't mention Black Hippy because they get enough praise around these parts. I think you are trying so hard to be counter-intuitive that it sounds just as blind as the conventional wisdom. Something was lost from the 90's to now. You can bury your head in the sand and boost up the new guys. That's good. I'm respecting a young cat who is bringing back something I used to like. If you care what Meek Mill thinks, and you can't get it from his music, you're an idiot. Or for that matter, since you're so familiar with the details of their thoughts, what do Q-Tip, Rakim, or Ghost thing about...anything? Ignoring interviews, what songs of theirs told what they really think, more than Meek Mill? And all that stuff about "something was lost" sounds no different than old rock dudes who say rock died in the 70's and nothing past Led Zeppelin is any good or whatever. I will guarantee there are dudes saying rap died in the 80's, and all that 90's poo poo is garbage. Fetishizing the past is stupid, regardless what era you're talking about. I boost up new guys because new guys are still making good music. Tribe was discussed to death likely before you even started listening to rap. And most of the people who talk about them now in reverential tones actually don't sound like they ever listened to one of their albums. The other issue is that the thing you seem to be trying to describe as "lost" was never there in the first place. The only thing Earl is bringing back is whatever pseudo-brainwashing he got from that Samoan boot camp. And it's cool if he found peace or whatever, but from what I can tell the music he's making now is junk compared to what he did before. And from a musician, that's really all I care about.
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alansmithee posted:Hell, the video they released last for their group mixtape had Domo slapping a black girl and turn her into a smiling Asian chick, which of course nobody gave a gently caress about because the image of blacks or race issues haven't been trendy since the early 70's. Thats retarded and domo genesis is a joke of a rapper who people only know about because of his inexplicably famous friends. Songs like "earl" were gross poo poo for gross kids. New earl is good.
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alansmithee posted:If you care what Meek Mill thinks, and you can't get it from his music, you're an idiot. Or for that matter, since you're so familiar with the details of their thoughts, what do Q-Tip, Rakim, or Ghost thing about...anything? Ignoring interviews, what songs of theirs told what they really think, more than Meek Mill?
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temple posted:Funny, you are trying too hard to be contrarian. The 90's was a complete improvement on the 80's. People hate hiphop scholarship around here so I won't bother explaining. But you are talking out your rear end. Funny, what you say makes no sense. You had some vague, half-baked ideas that contradicted themselves, and when called out for it decide you won't explain because "people hate hiphop scholarship" whatever the gently caress that's supposed to mean. I asked you a very specific question, which if what you were rambling about had even a semblance of truth should've been easy to answer-what personal thoughts did Q-Tip, Rakim, and Ghost communicate through their music that's lacking in someone like Meek Mill? See, I actually agree on the 90's being a giant improvement on the 80's, and personally I consider 90% of the stuff from the 80's unlistenable (although oddly enough for such a hiphop historian as yourself I think you would've picked someone other than Rakim to exemplify the 90's since the poo poo he did that was considered groundbreaking happened in the 80's). But I'm also not gonna jerk off every thing released then because of some retarded idea about golden ages or whatever. The only reason I bothered replying in the first place was because I assumed that you might actually be able to have a discussion about what you said, regardless of how retarded or wrong it actually was. It's far more interesting to me to have that than just some youtube/datpiff link with 10 people saying "poo poo goes hard yo" afterwards. So bust out some of your hiphop scholarship KRS-1! School us kids about the "good ol' days" and how rap now sucks because rather than talking deep thoughts about how good of rappers they are/how they get so many girls/how much drugs they sold like Rakim/Q-Tip/Ghost, they just talk about feelings and poo poo. Or maybe, just maybe, it was you who were talking out your rear end in your efforts to talk up dinosaur rap?
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alansmithee posted:See, I actually agree on the 90's being a giant improvement on the 80's, and personally I consider 90% of the stuff from the 80's unlistenable Why are you typing all these words if you agree with me, Mr. Contrarian? edit: Don't answer that, I don't care anymore. Its rhetorical. temple fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Nov 4, 2012 |
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temple posted:I know when Rakim came out and the late 80's, like Follow the Leader in 88, is "the 90's" for all practical purposes. A lot of 90's dudes started around that time. The 80's started in late 70's with Rappers Delight in 79. 88 isn't the 90's. Part of the whole reason Rakim was so heralded was that compared to the other 80's stuff, he had a much more advanced flow. If he drops in 94, he's not nearly the same legend he is. Also, I agreed with one statement. I thought the rest of what you said was retarded, and I wanted to find out if you just have stupid opinions, or decent opinions that you're unable to articulate properly. it seems like both might be true.
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alansmithee posted:It's far more interesting to me to have that than just some youtube/datpiff link with 10 people saying "poo poo goes hard yo" afterwards. Yeah you'd think, but neither one of you has really said anything even approaching insightful or cogent in your walls of text so let's just resume posting of youtube/datpiff links. At least then we might hear something new w/r/t rap music. Have any vinyl collectors here picked up the GKMC LP yet? edit: since people here seem to think he is a good rapper - Game - Holy Water thathonkey fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Nov 4, 2012 |
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Dude nobody here likes Game. Post Gunplay instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtdiBPcLyF4
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Umm ok there is plenty of Gunplay poo poo posted on a daily basis. I know most (smart) people don't think Game is very good, I was jabbing at the numerous people involved in the argument spanning multiple pages about G-unit solo careers - 50 vs Game vs Buck blah blah blah
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I was ready to hate the new Earl track because I am not an Odd Future guy, but I loving love Chum. It has a great confessional angle to it, which really suits the soft, polite beat. I like his delivery, too. It doesn't sound lazy to me, it just sounds like words are falling out of his mouth without any precision, which gives it this great, messy vibe. That said, I really dug the track he did with Flying Lotus and Captain Murphy, and no one else did, so maybe I'm in the minority again. Besson fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Nov 4, 2012 |
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Boywhiz88 posted:Alley Boy and Gunplay? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHa2p8zWmRc Gun hands is the new rap hands. Goddamn.
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alansmithee posted:And the whole backpedaling stuff just honestly comes of as some music gentrification, and doesn't sound sincere to me AT ALL. Especially since it was only really Tyler and Earl who were saying the stuff white people complained about (and they were the ones who got the most attention). What seems especially telling to me is that it's only the (white woman) rape and gay poo poo that gets called out. Hell, the video they released last for their group mixtape had Domo slapping a black girl and turn her into a smiling Asian chick, which of course nobody gave a gently caress about because the image of blacks or race issues haven't been trendy since the early 70's. i am perfectly down with your first reason for not digging the new earl but this is kind of ridiculous. that wasn't just the stuff "white people complained about," it was also primarily white people who ate that poo poo up. like, do you remember the loving pictures of the crowds at their first big shows? from both sides of the aisle the discourse about OF was controlled by white people, so to chalk up their toning down of that bullshit to "appeasing white people" or whatever seems pretty grossly inaccurate. as far as no one caring about that thing in the video, well, that's because at that point all of the people who were pissed about the dumb poo poo in OF lyrics had already grown bored of talking about them. the chronology was basically like this: all the outlets that had first built up their hype [primarily white] were content to let the poo poo slide and focus on the other aspects that made them decent, then a bunch of idiots who also like hopsin [also primarily white] made that the primary focus of the whole thing by devouring that poo poo, then the former group distanced themselves from all that bullshit. now, if you want to claim something about a double standard that exists between OF and other hip-hop, i do agree with you there, that does exist. the difference is that generally people listening to the latter category aren't all over the internet talking about how much rape rules because of it. the reason that there's a discourse at all is problematic, and it always is when a sort of "nonstandard" rap thing happens and gets hyped up. but when OF first came out a lot of people were interested in the thematic departure they represented as well as the sort of nihilistic enthusiasm they displayed. in this, there is definitely a sort of inherent "the rest of rap is dumb and this rap is smart," and the people who eventually got upset about all the rape/homophobia poo poo were certainly guilty of that. but to blame that strictly on Whiteness is really ignoring what the other side of the discourse looked like.
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Bstyles posted:Damnet! I guess it is staged to promote that WWE event. Mayweather deleted all his posts so his facebook so his "last update" was a photo with that wrestler HHH back in August. I need to start watching more TV or something. the answer is "everything" they are raking in money hand over fist in a number of different ways, and the only "marketing" they have to do is pretend not to like each other for a week hold my money fuckboy even if it is true / real there's not much incentive for me to care about the soap opera of grown men
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a false posted:i am perfectly down with your first reason for not digging the new earl but this is kind of ridiculous. that wasn't just the stuff "white people complained about," it was also primarily white people who ate that poo poo up. like, do you remember the loving pictures of the crowds at their first big shows? from both sides of the aisle the discourse about OF was controlled by white people, so to chalk up their toning down of that bullshit to "appeasing white people" or whatever seems pretty grossly inaccurate. as far as no one caring about that thing in the video, well, that's because at that point all of the people who were pissed about the dumb poo poo in OF lyrics had already grown bored of talking about them. That's the thing though-now they're starting to get big it's being toned down, not before when it was just the crowds you talked about. That's why I compared it to gentrification-the initial wave of white people moved in, and were like this is cool or whatever. Then, some others followed and thought things were to dangerous or whatever so it has to get toned down or whatever to appease the masses. As for the video thing, that type of stuff has always been in the lyrics, but I saw it never commented on at all. And honestly, I think your chronology is a bit off, simply because when I first remember hearing much press about them it was already laced with this paternalistic tone of disapproval. I don't remember it ever being ignored much (outside of actual rap writers, but I think you'd agree that's not what we're really discussing). That being said, I was likely oversimplifying the discussion, and I do think that at least from Earl a lot of the change of heart is sincere. I also think that now they're not edgy or whatever you're gonna hear a lot less about them in general (although that could also just be the general music cycle for stuff like that so idk).
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