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Spiderfist Island posted:I'm willing to bet that our Communist analogue in this will arise out of antipathy towards how "revolutionary" means absolutely nothing in a political sense after so long. This sounds likely, though at the same time I'm almost hoping that some sort of "Christian Socialism" springs up in eastern Borealia.
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This ones strikes me as the most pleasing to the eye.
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I want to know what Italy is doing. It has serenely stayed out of the Revolutionary Wars, hasn't had much other conflict and owns both Brazil AND half of India. Maybe it will get into war with Mughalistan?
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Nov 18, 2012 23:00
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DarkCrawler posted:I want to know what Italy is doing. It has serenely stayed out of the Revolutionary Wars, hasn't had much other conflict and owns both Brazil AND half of India. Maybe it will get into war with Mughalistan? "Splendid Isolation." Likely, they're too busy experimenting with pasta and curry dishes/dealing with Chartist petitions (Italy is totally our timeline's Britain) to care much about foreign policy.
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Nov 18, 2012 23:09
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To be fair with the Italo-Indian-whatever Brazil is called in this timeline cuisine that would result, I would be too busy stuffing myself to care about wars either.
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Nov 18, 2012 23:14
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Wasn't Italy the only major absolute monarchy left in Europe besides Azerbaijan? You'd think they above all the other countries that participated in that last war would have reason to want to stop Russia.
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Pakled posted:Wasn't Italy the only major absolute monarchy left in Europe besides Azerbaijan? You'd think they above all the other countries that participated in that last war would have reason to want to stop Russia. Italy is a conmon.
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Nov 18, 2012 23:24
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Spiderfist Island posted:Pearson Pennant designs: I've liked pretty much all the designs, but this one is the best, in my opinion. I'm also holding out hope that something awakens the sleeping giant of Italy and they crush the Revolutionary governments (or at least Russia) by conscripting the entire population of India like the British in Vanilla so we can dogpile on them, too. Being nice and progressive won't get Astrakhan back. 
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Nov 18, 2012 23:25
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DarkCrawler posted:Newest Sultans of Azerbaijan, I don't think I need to inform about the huge filesize anymore! Could you please host this on some other site? Imagenook doesn't work in my country.
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paragon1 posted:I know what you were trying to do there, but it doesn't make any sense. I just wanted to say something silly.  Spiderfist Island posted:Pearson Pennant designs: Yeah, this one is the best.
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Nov 18, 2012 23:33
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Spiderfist Island posted:Here are some Borealia flags, for no governments in particular. If you want symbolism, I took the colors to represent Christainia (Red), Vestland (Green) and Cascadia (Blue), but I just tried to incorporate as much of the color schemes of the old flags as possible. Oh these are great designs, esp. for a republic. I most like the last one with the coloured leaves, it really looks unique and beautiful.
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Nov 18, 2012 23:42
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DarkCrawler posted:To be fair with the Italo-Indian-whatever Brazil is called in this timeline cuisine that would result, I would be too busy stuffing myself to care about wars either. Oh god. Think of the Indian/Italian food.
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PBJ posted:Oh god. Think of the Indian/Italian food. I think Italy is safe from Russian invasion because there is a chance, however remote, that the Italian Monarchy survives the war and refuses to sell Indian/Italian/Brazilian food to the republics. This would be the end of the Russian Revolution and the old monarchies would be restored over night.
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Thanqol posted:Could you please host this on some other site? Imagenook doesn't work in my country. Does this work? http://www.pictureshack.us/images/28908_azerbaijan.jpg
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PBJ posted:Oh god. Think of the Indian/Italian food. And now we are faced with the final problem that must be solved and will be solved! It is the final demand which I shall make of Europe, but it is the demand which I shall not give up and which with God's help I shall ensure is fulfilled. Germany MUST HAVE THE RECIPE FOR CHEF'S GIOVANNIS SIGNATURE CURRY AND CHURASSCO PIZZA!
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Spiderfist Island posted:Pearson Pennant designs: How about a version of the Pearson Pennant but with horizontal lines instead of vertical? Canuck-Errant fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Nov 19, 2012 |
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Nov 18, 2012 23:59
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Canuck-Errant posted:How about a version of the Pearson Pennant but with horizontal lines instead of vertical? If that was made, I think it'd make most sense to have the blue stripe at the top and the green at the bottom, like a maple tree sprouting from the ground towards the sky.
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Rejected Fate posted:If that was made, I think it'd make most sense to have the blue stripe at the top and the green at the bottom, like a maple tree sprouting from the ground towards the sky. So like this then? 
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 What about this? E:F,B But I prefer the thinner stripes.
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Freudian posted:
Yeah, I'd honestly go with that one over mine.
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PBJ posted:Yeah, I'd honestly go with that one over mine. Gotta give the plants room to breathe, son! You'll never grow a tree that way. Plus this differentiates it from literally every other horizontal tricolor out there. Which, thanks to the Revolution, there are a lot of.
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Hopefully exposure to radical thought from Russia and Europe helps to eventually end the dictatorship in Japan.
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Peel posted:Hopefully exposure to radical thought from Russia and Europe helps to eventually end the dictatorship in Japan. Or to send it in new and terrifying directions. Imagine North Korea, Imperial Japan and Terror-era France all meshed into one country.
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So what is the chance of Azerbaijan doing anything in Victoria? I'm worried.
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Cate the Great posted:So what is the chance of Azerbaijan doing anything in Victoria? I'm worried. It's actually really cool how we are not in a supreme position at the moment. We are basically surrounded with no obvious avenues of conquest or exploitation at our borders, the Superpower at the era right next to us and not too well-disposed towards us and a shitload of internal minorities making things even more complicated. Basically we have to hope that we get more sultans like the current one to rapidly industrialize, as well as finding some way of fixing our biggest internal issue (that only 20% of the population is Azeri). I hope those two goals don't combine in the worst possible way.  I think our next possible enemy, barring Russia taking us for their next punching bag, is Greece. With the nascent age of nationalism it has to be hungrily eying the Anatolian coast...
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Freudian posted:
I think this is a great revision of the flag I did. Cate the Great posted:So what is the chance of Azerbaijan doing anything in Victoria? I'm worried. Oh, don't worry. We're a secondary power, we'll still find a place in the sun for ourselves.
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At this point my hope is that the world doesn't turn into a boring democratic utopia; Russia is such a powerful and driven democratic nation that I can't really see any way for any nation in Europe to have a government different than Russia's. Maybe that's where communism and fascism step in; communists feel Russia abandoned the goals of the revolution, fascists resent Russian interference with their affairs, but I can't see them surviving long before Russia decides to spread democracy to them  .E: Same thing goes for Africa and Asia where Euopeans will be spreading their new republics to these regions. I guess if South America and North America don't go democratic for whatever reason we could see non-Democratic superpowers.
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DrProsek posted:At this point my hope is that the world doesn't turn into a boring democratic utopia; Russia is such a powerful and driven democratic nation that I can't really see any way for any nation in Europe to have a government different than Russia's. Maybe that's where communism and fascism step in; communists feel Russia abandoned the goals of the revolution, fascists resent Russian interference with their affairs, but I can't see them surviving long before Russia decides to spread democracy to them Fear not, we still have the wizard on our side! (Our side being the most hilarious of all historical possibilities given)
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In the light of all the revolutionary success, would reforming our government make Azerbaijan a less likely Russian target?
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DrProsek posted:At this point my hope is that the world doesn't turn into a boring democratic utopia; Russia is such a powerful and driven democratic nation that I can't really see any way for any nation in Europe to have a government different than Russia's. Maybe that's where communism and fascism step in; communists feel Russia abandoned the goals of the revolution, fascists resent Russian interference with their affairs, but I can't see them surviving long before Russia decides to spread democracy to them I don't think Russia is powerful enough just to do whatever it wants in Europe, it was unable to advance beyond Poland in the last war. I think the constant defeats have made democracy a dirty word in the Coalition states, and Burgundy and Germany will certainly be very reactionary. Italy is powerful and monarchical as well (while it hasn't been beaten into bloody mess by Russia it certainly would look at it with worry). Also, none of the Republics are very colonialist. All of the colonialist states thus far (except the Dutch?) have been monarchies. And of course we have the Islamic Empires of Asia who won't give any quarter to democratic aspirations.
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Well, Netherlands, Britain, Spain, Italy, and Germany are all still Con Mons and Bavaria is an Absolute Monarchy. Bavaria, Mughals, Zhen, Persia, and Azerbaijan are basically the only significant countries holding to Absolute Monarchy. Still, though, that's basically all of Asia for Absolutism. Wiz, would you mind telling us about our western neighbors Bulgaria and Greece? EDIT: At least Bavaria started out an Absolute Monarchy, but given how easy it is to reform out from Absolutism to Prussian Constitutionalism I wouldn't be sure that they're still Absolutist.
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Hey DarkCrawler, digging the rulers of Azerbaijan timeline, but I just wanted to point out that one of our early CK sultans was a Murad so we're on Murad II.
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I think the main issue with Russia is that they'll be like a tide- slowly they'll sweep further and further over Europe, each time converting more nations to their cause, as slowly and slowly the monarchies die out and are replaced by puppet democracies. If we can stop the spread at the conference, all the better.
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Brutus Salad posted:Hey DarkCrawler, digging the rulers of Azerbaijan timeline, but I just wanted to point out that one of our early CK sultans was a Murad so we're on Murad II. Missed that. Will fix in next update!
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DarkCrawler posted:I don't think Russia is powerful enough just to do whatever it wants in Europe, it was unable to advance beyond Poland in the last war. I think the constant defeats have made democracy a dirty word in the Coalition states, and Burgundy and Germany will certainly be very reactionary. Italy is powerful and monarchical as well (while it hasn't been beaten into bloody mess by Russia it certainly would look at it with worry). True it probably did take up a good deal of Russia's resources to repel the Coalition forces, and Italy was absent from the last war, but next time Russia will have Poland and Scandinavia on its side, and in the mean time unless the war was a Pyrrhic victory for Russia, they're probably strong enough to go after some states like Zhen or Persia during the conference to flip another nation Democratic. Unless the European monarchs actually do one large push together, I'm expecting constant failed wars to restore order to Russia, every few years first by one half the Monarchs, and later by the other half, assuming of course that the convention fails. You do have a point about the colonies though, even if Europe becomes nothing but democracies, the Americas are solidly monarchs and would likely be able to resist invasion assuming they don't have insane infighting .
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WIZ I want the mod of this. Can you do it faster for my health?
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I think America is mostly non-Monarch, being product of revolutions of their own. Cherokee is a monarchy though, and a very militaristic one in that. Italian Brazil and Dutch Argentina/Florida are monarchist, obviously, but the rest (Peru, Chile, Colombia, Mexico, Missouri, New England, Borealia) are probably presidential dictatorships. EDIT: Yeah, just looked and they were all different republics at the end of EU3. Might be some actual democracies there too. DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Nov 19, 2012 |
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DarkCrawler posted:I think America is mostly non-Monarch, being product of revolutions of their own. Cherokee is a monarchy though, and a very militaristic one in that. Italian Brazil and Dutch Argentina/Florida are monarchist, obviously, but the rest (Peru, Chile, Colombia) are probably presidential dictatorships. Ah, my bad, assumed they stayed kingdoms like their former overlords. I predict monarchy will be totally extinct by 1900  .
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DrProsek posted:Ah, my bad, assumed they stayed kingdoms like their former overlords. I predict monarchy will be totally extinct by 1900 I'd take that bet: I haven't seen a successful AI naval invasion of the British Isles in a Paradox game not in the Crusader Kings series.
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DrProsek posted:Ah, my bad, assumed they stayed kingdoms like their former overlords. That would have been a wierd-rear end revolution, what, they'd find a guy with the snazziest hat and make them their new king?  Wait, that actually kind of happened http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_empire
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