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Snipee
Mar 27, 2010

Spiderfist Island posted:

Pearson Pennant designs:


Three leaves for the three old nations.

For reference, I liked this one the best as well.

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Duckbox
Sep 7, 2007

YF-23 posted:

I'm using these colours because they are Christiana's flag's colours, and so *traditional*, just like how any proper absolute monarchy ought to be. The white looks better in my opinion than the black though. Maximum Switzerland.

More flags, I'm having too much fun with this design.
///

All your flags are ugly. But, but ugly flags are what makes america great.

e:
For reference, I think this one was the best one for Borealia. The mapleleaf flags are cool and all but they're just so [/i]canadian[/i].


For Scandinavia, I think we have a few options. We can take aspects from the three old flags and mash them together like the union jack does, or we could update it in a "revolutionary" style (hate to say it, but a tricolor would make sense), but those are both sort of boring. I feel like an international revolutionary government would want to create a unifying symbol for themselves. Historically when people have tried to create a modern national symbol from the ground up they've wound up with silly poo poo like sickles, maple leaves, and stoned looking yellow suns. So this is our chance to get creative. Ugliest flag wins as far as I'm concerned.

Duckbox fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Nov 20, 2012

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


Thank you :patriot:

At some point I stopped caring about making pretty flags and just tried out designs and just put them up for the world to see without much care. I am the bad poster, it's me.

Hefty Leftist
Jun 26, 2011

"You know how vodka or whiskey are distilled multiple times to taste good? It's the same with shit. After being digested for the third time shit starts to taste reeeeeeaaaally yummy."


Before flagchat dies out, throwing in a fascist flag for Scandinavia or Borealia, it could work either way. It's supposed to be some sort of swastika meets nordic cross design, though I have no idea if it's too complex or not.

Hefty Leftist fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Nov 20, 2012

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.

Bishop Rodan posted:

It's linked to in the OP, but here you go.
Totally missed that the first time.
Do you know if it would be against any rules to make this a gif avatar?

Rurik
Mar 5, 2010

Thief
Warrior
Gladiator
Grand Prince

tonberrytoby posted:

Totally missed that the first time.
Do you know if it would be against any rules to make this a gif avatar?
If you have to ask, the answer's probably yes.

But then you'd have to ask yourself wouldn't that be worth it.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
I can't imagine how it would be against the rules.

E: Just make both Borealia and Scandinavia declare a war on flags. Their banners shall be pure white with "I loving hate flags" tastefully embroidered in deep crimson (or written in poo poo).

steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Nov 20, 2012

Hefty Leftist
Jun 26, 2011

"You know how vodka or whiskey are distilled multiple times to taste good? It's the same with shit. After being digested for the third time shit starts to taste reeeeeeaaaally yummy."


steinrokkan posted:

I can't imagine how it would be against the rules.

E: Just make both Borealia and Scandinavia declare a war on flags. Their banners shall be pure white with "I loving hate flags" tastefully embroidered in deep crimson (or written in poo poo).

BrooklynBruiser
Aug 20, 2006

I'm half-tempted to buy this as an avatar, because I loving HATE FLAGCHAT, but I'm not giving up my current av.

meatbag
Apr 2, 2007
Clapping Larry

ThePutty posted:

Before flagchat dies out, throwing in a fascist flag for Scandinavia or Borealia, it could work either way. It's supposed to be some sort of swastika meets nordic cross design, though I have no idea if it's too complex or not.



This is the first flag I've liked this round. Great color choice and no ugly/complex elements.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Duckbag posted:

All your flags are ugly. But, but ugly flags are what makes america great.

e:
For reference, I think this one was the best one for Borealia. The mapleleaf flags are cool and all but they're just so canadian.


They are Canadian because Canada has lot of maples. It wouldn't be a stretch for these guys to choose it as their symbol, especially when Nordic crosses are ugly and boring as poo poo (and I am saying it as someone who is from a Nordic country). Without stupid Union Jack loving things up the flag of Canada would very likely have been a maple leaf in the first place instead only for the last 47 years.

Baalfrog
Nov 14, 2012

Thats pretty neat.

Here is my quick take on the flag of Borealia. I based the desing (ripped off) on the union flag of Sweden and Norway. Cristiania being the major part in the Union gets the big cross and cascadia is the blue and yellow stuff on the corner. I couldn't find the Vestland part so I just put Cristianias colors there instead.

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous




e:
vvv
Yeah, that might work better. My Latin isn't exactly the greatest. Updated.

e2: I'm keeping abbhoreo since it's a more accurate description of how I feel about flagchat.

e3: I give up. I'll just keep the original. v:shobon:v

my dad fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Nov 20, 2012

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


"While I am loving, I hate flags."

e: Maybe "futuenter"? "I fuckingly hate flags." I dunno man

e2: also with "abhorreo" that's technically "I shrink away from flags in horror"; you really should be using "odio"/"odi" instead but I'm getting too :spergin:y about Latin when the point is I actually liked your joke :shobon:

loquacius fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Nov 20, 2012

HrungTheGi
Oct 30, 2012
That last one reads "I, who am loving, hate flags". There's no real Latin for 'loving' as an adverb, but "mehercle vexilla abhorreo" might be better.

With all the time I've spent learning this dead language I'm drat well going to use it for something!

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

HrungTheGi posted:

With all the time I've spent learning this dead language I'm drat well going to use it for something!

Don't worry, this is the most noble endeavor.

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.
Well,I hread some people really like flags.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

The history of nations is composed of mainly flags and maps. That's just the way of things.

Personally, I like this flag for Canada:

quote:

It was pretty abnormal for Canada to choose a maple leaf for its flag in the real world, so it's unlikely that they'd do that in this one.

Spiderfist Island
Feb 19, 2011

SlothfulCobra posted:

The history of nations is composed of mainly flags and maps. That's just the way of things.

Personally, I like this flag for Canada:
It was pretty abnormal for Canada to choose a maple leaf for its flag in the real world, so it's unlikely that they'd do that in this one.

California almost had a pear on its flag, but thankfully the guy who sowed together the final version misread the directions as 'Bear.' Things could be worse.

Canuck-Errant
Oct 28, 2003

MOOD: BURNING - MUSIC: DISCO INFERNO BY THE TRAMMPS
Grimey Drawer

Spiderfist Island posted:

California almost had a pear on its flag, but thankfully the guy who sowed together the final version misread the directions as 'Bear.' Things could be worse.

Except that that's an urban legend.

CasinoV
Aug 13, 2009
"Don't tread on the pear" sounds more intimidating though.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

SlothfulCobra posted:

It was pretty abnormal for Canada to choose a maple leaf for its flag in the real world, so it's unlikely that they'd do that in this one.

quote:

At the beginning of the eighteenth century, the settlements of New France had attained a population of about 18,000. Also by this time, the maple leaf had been adopted as an emblem by the French Canadians along the Saint Lawrence River.[1]

Its popularity with French Canadians continued and was reinforced when, at the inaugural meeting of the Société Saint-Jean-Baptiste in 1834,[2] the maple leaf was one of numerous emblems proposed to represent the society. Speaking in its favour, Jacques Viger, the first mayor of Montreal, described the maple as "the king of our forest; ... the symbol of the Canadian people."

The maple leaf slowly caught on as a national symbol: in 1868, it was included in the coat of arms of both Ontario and Quebec, and was added to the Canadian coat of arms in 1921. Historically, the golden maple leaf had represented Ontario, while the green maple leaf had represented Quebec.[3] In 1867, Alexander Muir composed the patriotic "The Maple Leaf Forever," which became an unofficial anthem in English-speaking Canada. From 1876 until 1901, the leaf appeared on all Canadian coins, and remained on the penny after 1901. During the First World War, badges of the Canadian Expeditionary Force were often based on a maple leaf design. The use of the maple leaf as a regimental symbol extended back to the 1800s, and Canadian soldiers in the Second Boer War were distinguished by a maple leaf on their sun helmets.

That's all before it even appeared as a flag. I don't see what is abnormal about it, it's a pretty prominent leaf in a big-rear end tree.

Even during Canada's flagchat when they were choosing the new flag the debate wasn't about whether or not the maple leaf was suitable as a symbol for Canada but whether they should keep the Union Jack or not. In this universe Union Jack never flew over the Nordic colonies and they first broke in a violent rebellion, then unified so I think they would want a whole new flag instead following the Norwegian (?) one.

DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Nov 20, 2012

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.
Before the modern design was adopted, all of the versions of the Red Ensign that Canada used featured maple leaves prominently in their coats of arms.

It still seems kind of weird for a culturally Scandinavian settler colony that doesn't really have anything in common with Canada besides occupying the same geographical space, though.

Nut to Butt
Apr 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Rincewind posted:

culturally Scandinavian settler colony

In this timeline, black metal should originate ~200 years early in Borealia. Their flag should reflect this. :black101:

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Rincewind posted:

Before the modern design was adopted, all of the versions of the Red Ensign that Canada used featured maple leaves prominently in their coats of arms.

It still seems kind of weird for a culturally Scandinavian settler colony that doesn't really have anything in common with Canada besides occupying the same geographical space, though.

Well, why not? The French and English settlers both apparently adopted the symbol, and it's certainly not a trend among other colonies created by either nation. Maybe it's the geography that counts.

lonelywurm
Aug 10, 2009

Rincewind posted:

It still seems kind of weird for a culturally Scandinavian settler colony that doesn't really have anything in common with Canada besides occupying the same geographical space, though.
The geographical space is very important. Maples are common and very distinctive in the places that were settled earliest by both the French and English in OTL and the Scandinavians in this game. It's no great stretch that it would become the emblem for any new colonial culture evolving around the hardwood forests of southern Christiana, which seems to have been the driving force behind unification (and is likely the most heavily populated part of Borealia at this point, much like it was in OTL Canada).

lonelywurm fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Nov 20, 2012

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade
Well when they have so much gorgeous frozen forest why not represent them on the flag

Duckbox
Sep 7, 2007

The problem with the maple leaf is it sort of de-emphasizes the alt-historyness of the country. Back when there were three of them, it was pretty clearly different from our Canada. Now though, it has practically the same territory, giving it the same flag just makes it even more the same, but different. The other issue is the maple leaf really only makes sense as a symbol for Christiana. There are maple species on the west coast, but the iconic sugar maples are very much a north-eastern tree.

Jimmy4400nav
Apr 1, 2011

Ambassador to Moonlandia
Not to derail the flag chat, but I have a quick Victoria 2 question. I'm playing a vanilla version (with A house Divided) and I'm trying to stay alive as Texas. However, according to all the online guides I should wait for the USA to join, but the problem is America keeps allying with Mexico and never helping me. Is there some other way to survive or do I just have to save scum until I get one where America helps?

Spiderfist Island
Feb 19, 2011

Jimmy4400nav posted:

Not to derail the flag chat, but I have a quick Victoria 2 question. I'm playing a vanilla version (with A house Divided) and I'm trying to stay alive as Texas. However, according to all the online guides I should wait for the USA to join, but the problem is America keeps allying with Mexico and never helping me. Is there some other way to survive or do I just have to save scum until I get one where America helps?

I dunno how different AHD's AI is, but if you continually use the "improve relations" diplomatic action with the US they'll prefer you more. Remember that Mexico's AI will also try to keep good relations with the US (at least until they get the Manifest Destiny Decision and gobble up everything north of Chihuahua)

StrifeHira
Nov 7, 2012

I'll remind you that I have a very large stick.

Duckbag posted:

The problem with the maple leaf is it sort of de-emphasizes the alt-historyness of the country. Back when there were three of them, it was pretty clearly different from our Canada. Now though, it has practically the same territory, giving it the same flag just makes it even more the same, but different. The other issue is the maple leaf really only makes sense as a symbol for Christiana. There are maple species on the west coast, but the iconic sugar maples are very much a north-eastern tree.

Solution: maple leaves on only the fascist flag. They will become the symbol of Fascism in this timeline, much like trains/gears should be the symbol of this timeline's Communism.

People will learn to be terrified of that leaf. :colbert:

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

personally, i'm really glad the Pearson design was consigned to the dustbin of history and whatnot.

Ponken
Jun 22, 2007
Doesnt the name Borealia comes from the Aurora Borealis, northern lights. A flag design based on that could work.

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011
Is this going to happen every time a new country is created?

AgentF
May 11, 2009
It happens in real life every time a new country is created :colbert:

Hot Dog Day #82
Jul 5, 2003

Soiled Meat
Which African country is the one that has an AK-47 on the flag? I wish I was a fly on the wall when they were coming up with that one!

Gorgo Primus
Mar 29, 2009

We shall forge the most progressive republic ever known to man!
You mean Angola? It's a pretty cool flag all things considered...

aqu
Aug 1, 2006

But Mooooooooom
Mozambique. It also has a bayonet!

Top Hats Monthly
Jun 22, 2011


People are people so why should it be, that you and I should get along so awfully blink blink recall STOP IT YOU POSH LITTLE SHIT

Gorgo Primus posted:

You mean Angola? It's a pretty cool flag all things considered...

It's Mozambique

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Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
Don't worry guys, a gun appearing on a flag doesn't necessarily mean it's a violent country. They have a book on their flag, too, but their literacy rate is only 56.1%.

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