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9031 | 65.25% |
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1191 | 8.60% |
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460 | 3.32% |
| Waluigi |
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1603 | 11.58% |
| Waa |
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748 | 5.40% |
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The 360 has a model that doesn't come with a proper hard drive, and without it, even if you don't download anything a lot of popular games have content locked-away, as they require extra HD space. In order to solve this, you need to buy Microsoft's extremely overpriced hard drive, and there's no other practical alternative. When Nintendo says "Why put in a hard drive and drive up costs when it's tech that's getting cheaper? Slap anything you want on there." everybody bitches. 
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Nov 30, 2012 04:07
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I still haven't bothered hooking an external drive up to my basic. I'd rather just have one version but I don't think that particular omission is a big deal.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:13
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FoneBone posted:Gotta post this somewhere - cover for the final issue of Nintendo Power: You have no idea how much this post depressed me. I still remember getting my hands on that first issue. So much to look forward to and so many great things yet to come... Jesus, what happened to my life? 
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Nov 30, 2012 04:21
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Gendo posted:I still haven't bothered hooking an external drive up to my basic. I just worry that a lot of people won't be entirely informed about the lack of storage on a basic version when they buy it, either for themselves or for their kids. I also think that DLC presents a worrying possibility for kids with the basic version, as they're going to want the content but have nowhere to put it (and convincing your parents to buy you an external hard drive for your Wii U will probably be a tall order - poo poo, I could barely get my parents to buy memory cards). Buying external hard drives is totally understandable for older people, but I just don't think it's a good decision for a largely child-centric console. abloo bloo think of the kids, I guess. This post needs a Sarah McLachlan soundtrack.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:24
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:C'mon now, let's not be disingenuous and suggest that the problem with memory cards was going out to buy them. The Xbox 360 initially used memory cards. 64mb ones. There was a limit on the file size of XBLA games at 50mb, presumably so that you could fit one onto the memory card if you didn't have a hard drive. Except the leftover space after the 50mb game wasn't enough to store the gamer profile you needed to purchase the game. I'm fine with people complaining about things, but HOLY poo poo IT COULD BE SO MUCH WORSE.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:27
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FWIW, I was able to adjust my screen size in the Miiverse settings, so the edges weren't getting cut off on the TV.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:27
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I guess we'll know if it comes up but I have a hard time imagining the scenario where the family is savvy enough to buy stuff digitally, is letting their kid buy stuff digitally, and yet won't also listen to that kid to buy a hard drive, or be savvy enough themselves to look at the size of a game on the eshop and say, "I guess I need to buy a bigger drive[there will be drives advertising themselves as being for the Wii U in stores at some point I assume] in order to do this." Also I think judging by the launch lineup it might be a stretch to say that this console is more child centric than the other consoles. Judging the future is a mug's game, though. kater posted:The Xbox 360 initially used memory cards. 64mb ones. There was a limit on the file size of XBLA games at 50mb, presumably so that you could fit one onto the memory card if you didn't have a hard drive. I had a launch 360 with a hard drive because the idea of going back to memory cards after the original Xbox was insane to me.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:27
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amaranthine posted:Buying external hard drives is totally understandable for older people, but I just don't think it's a good decision for a largely child-centric console. The average American consumer doesn't even understand what a hard drive is. If you're familiar with downloading big stuff, you're familiar with hard drive space, and probably with externals. When you download any title on the WiiU, it warns you that the standard WiiU doesn't have adequate space, and that you'll need an external hard drive, in big gross red letters.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:28
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Rawrbomb posted:FWIW, I was able to adjust my screen size in the Miiverse settings, so the edges weren't getting cut off on the TV. Yeah but the thing is it only changes it for Miiverse, games are still a bit cut off unless you can change the settings on your TV.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:29
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Something that might be worth mentioning: when you transfer your Wii to a Wii U, the contents of your message board (play history, friend messages, etc.) don't transfer over and also get wiped from the Wii.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:32
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Anyone know if any work has been done to get the pro controller working with a PC?
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Nov 30, 2012 04:34
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Bobnumerotres posted:They'll also have 3 SLI'D GTX790s, octo-cores and cost under 500 dollars. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-06-19-john-carmack-not-all-that-excited-by-next-gen-hardware quote:Ultimately, technology doesn't hold back game designers anymore, Carmack said and that's why he doesn't view the next graphical leap as being too important. Fergus Mac Roich posted:C'mon now, let's not be disingenuous and suggest that the problem with memory cards was going out to buy them. 
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Nov 30, 2012 04:34
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:I guess we'll know if it comes up but I have a hard time imagining the scenario where the family is savvy enough to buy stuff digitally, is letting their kid buy stuff digitally, and yet won't also listen to that kid to buy a hard drive, or be savvy enough themselves to look at the size of a game on the eshop and say, "I guess I need to buy a bigger drive[there will be drives advertising themselves as being for the Wii U in stores at some point I assume] in order to do this."
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Nov 30, 2012 04:36
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Almost Smart posted:You have no idea how much this post depressed me. I still remember getting my hands on that first issue. So much to look forward to and so many great things yet to come... It really pisses me off that Nintendo hasn't turned Nintendo Power into an online website, maybe even an app on the Wii U to show game previews and tips.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:37
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japtor posted:So people don't think Bob is a crazy person, here's John Carmack: The thing that really gets me is all the "But we don't know! We don't know how strong they're going to be!" We know one thing: They won't be half as strong as the beefier PCs of today without pulling a sony and charging an absurd amount. The 360 was alien technology from the future when it came out, but now all the parts have become cheap and practical, and if they want that alien-tech-shock again, it just won't be within anyone's budget.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:40
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Bobnumerotres posted:The 360 has a model that doesn't come with a proper hard drive, and without it, even if you don't download anything a lot of popular games have content locked-away, as they require extra HD space. In order to solve this, you need to buy Microsoft's extremely overpriced hard drive, and there's no other practical alternative. You can plug in a 32 gig usb stick into the 360. Content "locked away" 
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Nov 30, 2012 04:41
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amaranthine posted:I have just one set of parents, so I can't speak for the relative technological literacy of America as a whole, but I know my parents would be totally OK with me downloading games online yet have absolutely no idea about hard drive space or external hard drives. They understand price tags, though, and externals are cheap by working adult standards but not by "poo poo you buy for your kid's game console" standards. hitze posted:You can plug in a 32 gig usb stick into the 360. Content "locked away"
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Nov 30, 2012 04:44
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:It really pisses me off that Nintendo hasn't turned Nintendo Power into an online website, maybe even an app on the Wii U to show game previews and tips. I've been surprised for a while that they haven't done a channel on one of their consoles/handhelds that was magazinelike. They seem fairly "playful" with the presentation on the WiiU, so I could see them doing a channel with a mix of text and video content that would replace something like Nintendo Power. Insert the ability to livestream their Nintendo Direct stuff, and they would have a nice little self-promotion machine that they produce themselves just like when they ran Nintendo Power itself, and with no physical publication costs that would preach to the people that are definitely interested in their stuff directly.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:50
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Now that they have a real online service the world is their oyster in terms of doing Nintendo Power-like promotions. Put people's scores on the front page of a game and let people compete like in the old Nintendo Power issues that had you taking a picture of your TV, or like leaderboards but make a way bigger deal, offer prizes, etc. Have people submit guides or tips and post them up in a featured area of the Miiverse and everything.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:52
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Zomodok posted:Well you need to know how well a company is doing in all of their divisions before you can accurately form a picture of how their games will be. This was from a few pages back, but i'm much more concerned with a company's financial status than hardware specs. Nintendo may have had their first annual losses ever in 2011, but they are also sitting on billions of dollars cash on hand. Sony has had annual losses 4 years in a row (obviously not a completely fair comparison but sega went software only after 5 years of losses in a row), their bonds were recently downgraded to junk status, they are talking about selling off branches of their company and their stock has lost half it's value in the past year. Hopefully that doesn't read fanboy'ish, losing Sony would be terrible because Microsoft would be uncontested with Nintendo not directly trying to compete with them and that wouldn't be good for consumers. My point being, with Nintendo's financial situation they are capable of using some of their hoard to do things like take chances and pay for exclusives. Sony might be backed into a corner where they can't afford to take a loss on systems and either try to sell at an outrageous price again or release a system not meeting spec expectations. So I think a company's financial status has some merit.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:55
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Paper Jam Dipper posted:It really pisses me off that Nintendo hasn't turned Nintendo Power into an online website, maybe even an app on the Wii U to show game previews and tips. I've always been kind of surprised that Nintendo never created an analogue to Sony Japan's Weekly Toro Station. They love to combine social interaction with information and gameplay, as seen by the Miiverse and with StreetPass, so I figured that something along the lines of WTS/Mainichi Issho would be right up their alley. I mean, a daily news program run by colorful mascots who talk about everything related to their brand from video games, services, anime, and so on, which is also a game full of collectibles, customization, and mini-games with online play to enjoy with friends? That sounds exactly like the kind of thing Nintendo would be down for. I only watched a few episodes of WTS' predecessor Mainichi Issho, mainly due to WTS requiring a god drat subscription, but it was a really fun concept. I would love to see something like that on Nintendo.
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Nov 30, 2012 04:57
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They did do a daily program for Wii in Japan, I think it was called "Wii no Ma". It didn't really take off because, well, Wii.
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Nov 30, 2012 05:05
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Almost Smart posted:You have no idea how much this post depressed me. I still remember getting my hands on that first issue. So much to look forward to and so many great things yet to come... I spent a good portion of my Thanksgiving at home reading my old issues of Nintendo Power. I started subscribing at the end of the SNES era up through most of the N64 era. I think my first issue was issue 90-something. Nintendo Power was pretty awesome when I was 8-13 or so. That is a really awesome last cover too. Makes me a bit sad 
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Nov 30, 2012 05:09
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hitze posted:You can plug in a 32 gig usb stick into the 360. Content "locked away" Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the 360 originally supported USB memory?
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Nov 30, 2012 05:13
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Nickoten posted:Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the 360 originally supported USB memory?
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Nov 30, 2012 05:24
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Fleedar posted:Oddly enough, it looks like the system outputs a bit of underscan when in Wii mode. I have a black border about 20-30 pixels wide when playing Wii games unless I turn 1:1 mode off. the wii menu (and several wii games) would do render their screen in 640x448, instead of 720x480. My TV would automatically cut this off on the component input, but I guess they decided to have whatever is scaling the wii mode image not cut it off. Some games I've seen render to the full. I wonder why they just didn't extend the white into the non safe area when designing the wii menu.
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Nov 30, 2012 05:50
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Well, I picked mine up this morning and have had absolutely nothing bad to say about it. I didn't have the money for any extra games, but Nintendoland really is a good bit of fun. I'd also swear that Wii games do look at least a little sharper on the WiiU, especially if you try something like Muramasa.
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Nov 30, 2012 05:58
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Anyone in AU/NZ get one today? Curious as to how the network is holding up for the big initial patch. I think I might pick one up tomorrow. I popped into Dick Smith after work and they had nothing on show at all. That said, their games section in up the back in a sad little section. They are the cheapest around me though, so hopefully they can dig one up. Also, I wish someone would make a "Next Gen Discussion" thread so all this pointless speculation can be moved there.
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Nov 30, 2012 06:23
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I was just checking out the Miiverse on NBA2K13 and people are complaining about the frame rate and how a patch may be incoming to fix it. Do you all know anything about this? To anybody that has played it, is the frame rate that bad? I want to buy it on my Wii U so I can play it in bed, but if it has issues I will save the $30 and just get it on Steam.
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Nov 30, 2012 06:26
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Kiwillian posted:Anyone in AU/NZ get one today? Curious as to how the network is holding up for the big initial patch. If it's anything like the US, be ready to stare at a blue bar for 2 hours or more.
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Nov 30, 2012 06:34
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loudog999 posted:I was just checking out the Miiverse on NBA2K13 and people are complaining about the frame rate and how a patch may be incoming to fix it. Do you all know anything about this? To anybody that has played it, is the frame rate that bad? I want to buy it on my Wii U so I can play it in bed, but if it has issues I will save the $30 and just get it on Steam. Never purchase first generation sports games. This is usually a rule for EA Sports games but applies to pretty much anything.
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Nov 30, 2012 06:37
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Kiwillian posted:Anyone in AU/NZ get one today? Curious as to how the network is holding up for the big initial patch. I got mine and it's been perfectly fine. The Big Patch took about an hour at most, and the Nintendoland one only took about ten minutes. Also Kiwillian, if you want a cheap WiiU; either go to Kmart (They have the Deluxe for $380), or take on of their catalogues to EB and get them to give you one for the same price.
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Nov 30, 2012 06:40
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I got mine and it's been perfectly fine. The Big Patch took about an hour at most, and the Nintendoland one only took about ten minutes. I'm in NZ and I don't think Kmart exist any more. But $AU380 is way less expensive than it is here DSE has it for $NZ539. RRP is, I think, $569.
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Nov 30, 2012 06:50
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Looks like I'll be getting one of these. A local Target appeared to have one in stock, although when I called ahead to be sure I was told otherwise. At first the answer was no, just white ones. The guy had a look for me anyways, and ten minutes on hold later, he found a single one despite inventory reporting thirteen. He couldn't hold it, he said, but he could hide it, and not put it out. Thanks, Target guy.
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Nov 30, 2012 06:54
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Kiwillian posted:I'm in NZ and I don't think Kmart exist any more. But $AU380 is way less expensive than it is here Ouch. You guys really got the short end of the stick on this one. RRP in Australia is $430, so it might be worth simply importing it or something.
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Nov 30, 2012 07:00
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Revol posted:Why do criticisms always need to be labeled as 'hate'? I loving love Nintendo, and have since I was in elementary school. I just want to see them do better. Speaking from experience, people can take criticisms the wrong way which draws everyone into a back-and-forth discussion that can end up making you look like you hate Nintendo. Talking about Nintendo's position in the market is also complicated by the context surrounding it, such as the Wii's high number of total sales and low attach rate, which can make both sides of an argument think they're right. The interest in the Wii U's specs is driven a lot by Nintendo's secrecy. The cross-platform ports so far have had performance issues, and one developer publicly labeled the system as weak, so obviously there is going to be curiosity about how competitive the hardware is and what it will mean in a couple of years.
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Nov 30, 2012 07:08
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japtor posted:You can buy a 500GB drive for about the price of a new game, so I guess by that logic they wouldn't buy games for their kid's console (or the console in the first place for that matter). Forza won't allow you to race against ghosts and your rewinds are cuts, rather than transitions unless you have a harddrive. No size flash drive will enable either of these.
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Nov 30, 2012 07:09
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Scribblenauts is pretty fun so far. I created a giant imam and a giant rabbi and separated them with a giant wall. Then I gave the imam a rock and the rabbi an SMG then made them both angry.
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Nov 30, 2012 08:22
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Gendo posted:Scribblenauts is pretty fun so far. EDIT: A God cannot hurt any holy people. Imam, Rabbis, priests, etc. are invulnerable to an Angry God's attacks. An Atheist, however, will run terrified. extremebuff fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Nov 30, 2012 |
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Nov 30, 2012 08:24
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So the week the Wii U came out I put myself on Gamestop's waiting list. Dropped by today to pick up something else and casually mentioned the list and they got all shifty and said they were told to throw away the list and just start selling new shipments to whoever walks in (rather than reserving them). And they were told not to call the waiting list about it. Just a heads up for anyone else who might be waiting.
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