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Chie's new voice sounds like someone who snorts when she laughs. I don't mean that negatively, either. It fits her personality.
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Couldn't finish the game. The game is as good as a Persona game could be but after playing and enjoying 3 I felt there wasn't a whole new to offer the experience. That and it just dragged on. However, I understand I am in the minority. The scores speak for themselves and if this is someone playing persona for the first time they are in for an incredible experience.
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Heh, I just noticed something. In shuffle time, the 'lovers' card makes you lose all items from the battle. Would be funnier if it was a 'no money' card but still, well played, Atlus! Edit: also about that Monkey mage that Igor derp'd into a starfish... 2 Skill Ups later and it now had Null Physical and Megidolaon. I am very much OK with that gently caress-up of his HiveCommander fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Dec 1, 2012 |
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Dec 1, 2012 03:23
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You know what I loved about this game? All the stuff and choices you can make throughout the game. You know what I hated about this game? All the stuff and choices you can make throughout the game  I got to the last dungeon on PS2 and got tired of reading a guide while playing the game because I'm a bitch and wanted to max all my s. Links on my first play through. I'm pretty sure that's not how you're supposed to play it  I hate missing opportunities. I want to buy it for the vita but so conflicted! Anyone who hasn't played it should buy it!
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Dec 1, 2012 03:48
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ObesePriest posted:You know what I loved about this game? All the stuff and choices you can make throughout the game. The game is more fun if you don't max everything. And the Vita version makes a lot of the old tricks to min/maxing harder to do anyway, so don't bother!
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Dec 1, 2012 03:50
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RentCavalier posted:The game is more fun if you don't max everything. And the Vita version makes a lot of the old tricks to min/maxing harder to do anyway, so don't bother! Hmmm, that's refreshing to hear in an odd way. I'm seriously considering buying it, but I have all these other vita games that I've bearly started because the whole playstation plus vita free games. I will think on this.
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Dec 1, 2012 04:04
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ObesePriest posted:Hmmm, that's refreshing to hear in an odd way. I'm seriously considering buying it, but I have all these other vita games that I've bearly started because the whole playstation plus vita free games. I will think on this. Persona 4 is considered one of the finest RPGs to come out in recent years, and certainly the best JRPG. The Vita version is packed full of even more content, character and choices. It's such a thoroughly realized game that to not get it would honestly be a crime. There's pretty much nothing better on the Vita right now besides Gravity Rush, and Gravity Rush you can beat in a weekend. A long weekend, perhaps, but a weekend. Persona 4 will last you a long while.
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Dec 1, 2012 04:10
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Trying to max S. Links in the first play-through of P3 or P4 is literally the worst. All you're going to do is stress yourself out and possibly end up hating the game. Just do it normally and pick whatever you want, THEN if you want, use a guide to get 100% the 2nd time.
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Dec 1, 2012 04:13
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Rueish posted:Trying to max S. Links in the first play-through of P3 or P4 is literally the worst. All you're going to do is stress yourself out and possibly end up hating the game. Just do it normally and pick whatever you want, THEN if you want, use a guide to get 100% the 2nd time. Yeah. If you really care about min/maxxing for the battles, just neglect non-party member slinks like Sun and Moon. Honestly, the game's really easy either way on normal, even the harder bosses are a cakewalk compared to the tough ones in P3.
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Dec 1, 2012 04:17
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I'm about halfway through the first dungeon now. Two things: Number one, the Rescue Request system is the most wonderfully  thing to ever be put in a game. I haven't gotten more than two at a time yet, but I smack those requests whenever they pop up and I can't help but grin when I see that 'you are not alone' message. (My message is 'Sweetdiculous Steak-kun Delivered to Chie!')And number two... I don't *hate* Chie's new voice as much as I thought I would, and I'm giving her some slack since she didn't read through with the rest of the cast, but still... she's trying too hard. In those rare moments when Chie's geniunely subdued, like after getting her Persona, the voice is really good. Most of the time, though, she sounds like a Disgaea character, way too forced. Teddie's pretty good, but ironically he's a bit *too* subdued sometimes. Mostly I don't even notice the difference, though.
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Dec 1, 2012 04:19
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LaserShark posted:And number two... I don't *hate* Chie's new voice as much as I thought I would, and I'm giving her some slack since she didn't read through with the rest of the cast, but still... she's trying too hard. In those rare moments when Chie's geniunely subdued, like after getting her Persona, the voice is really good. Most of the time, though, she sounds like a Disgaea character, way too forced. Teddie's pretty good, but ironically he's a bit *too* subdued sometimes. Mostly I don't even notice the difference, though. I can't help but disagree with all your points. Chie's new VA is simply superb for the role, and nails the lines--her enthusiasm and loudness just fit the character better. Teddie's voice is 98% similar to his predecessor, but for the most part, the times where he's more subdued just sound better than the original. Unrelated to VA chat... What the gently caress is up with the boss Shadow Teddie? He seems to hit a lot harder in this version, and when he does his charge attack, despite two rounds of battery, I couldn't cancel it. Have they changed something about this fight? Is there a new strategy I have to dopt akin to the first one?
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RentCavalier posted:I can't help but disagree with all your points. Chie's new VA is simply superb for the role, and nails the lines--her enthusiasm and loudness just fit the character better. Teddie's voice is 98% similar to his predecessor, but for the most part, the times where he's more subdued just sound better than the original. You could cancel it?  If you set everyone to guard on the turn it hits, you shouldn't take any damage whatsoever.
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Dec 1, 2012 04:30
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If you hit him hard enough, you could cancel the charge, but guarding is safer.
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I always guard that move, I didn't even know you could cancel it.
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RentCavalier posted:What the gently caress is up with the boss Shadow Teddie? He seems to hit a lot harder in this version, and when he does his charge attack, despite two rounds of battery, I couldn't cancel it. Have they changed something about this fight? Is there a new strategy I have to dopt akin to the first one? You're just not hitting hard enough. I think you gotta do at least a thousand to cancel it.
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RadicalR posted:You're just not hitting hard enough. I think you gotta do at least a thousand to cancel it. Oh, well, that won't be happening then. Hard Mode and all that.
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Rueish posted:Trying to max S. Links in the first play-through of P3 or P4 is literally the worst. All you're going to do is stress yourself out and possibly end up hating the game. Just do it normally and pick whatever you want, THEN if you want, use a guide to get 100% the 2nd time. I wonder if you'd even need a guide. The biggest hurdle to getting all the Social Links is your 5 social stats. You'll have them maxed or near maxed on a second play through.
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Dr Pepper posted:I wonder if you'd even need a guide. The biggest hurdle to getting all the Social Links is your 5 social stats. You'll have them maxed or near maxed on a second play through. In vanilla P4, even with max social stats, I barely maxed it at, like, late December. There's definitely some planning involved, mostly who is available when and periods like summer break where a few links are unavailable.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:In vanilla P4, even with max social stats, I barely maxed it at, like, late December. There's definitely some planning involved, mostly who is available when and periods like summer break where a few links are unavailable. I think it might actually be easier in this if you don't have to worry about stats, due to being able to talk to people at night and get the bump to the slink.
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How do you use the Rescue Request thing? I'm about to fight Shadow Chie, and I haven't seen anything like that showing up.
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Nondevor posted:How do you use the Rescue Request thing? I'm about to fight Shadow Chie, and I haven't seen anything like that showing up. It starts the next time you go into the TV.
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RentCavalier posted:I can't help but disagree with all your points. Chie's new VA is simply superb for the role, and nails the lines--her enthusiasm and loudness just fit the character better. Teddie's voice is 98% similar to his predecessor, but for the most part, the times where he's more subdued just sound better than the original. I agree with LaserShark. I find her voice to be way too shrill and annoying whenever she yells, and she yells an awful lot, especially in the beginning.
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Nessa posted:I agree with LaserShark. I find her voice to be way too shrill and annoying whenever she yells, and she yells an awful lot, especially in the beginning. I'm pretty disappointed with her VA as well. I went into it with an open mind and really tried to like her. She tries way too hard, is too forced and entirely too whiney. I don't think the voice fits the character. Oh well. This game is fantastic anyway!
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On my second playthrough of vanilla P4, I was able to max out every link very easily. I'm pretty sure I finished mid-November. I was also a little bit more anal about scheduling though... like saving Sun and Hermit for rainy days, and doing only Temperance on Fridays at first. It becomes apparent quite quickly when you look at the schedule that there's simply no point in doing certain Links on different days. Dungeons were of course no problem since Lucifer's Victory Cry and Yoshitsune made just about every fight trivial and thus they could be finished in one day.
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CaptainPoopsock posted:I'm pretty disappointed with her VA as well. I went into it with an open mind and really tried to like her. She tries way too hard, is too forced and entirely too whiney. I don't think the voice fits the character. Oh well. This game is fantastic anyway! I dunno, I had exactly the same reaction when I started up P4G with regards to her VA (it's even earlier in the thread!) but near the end now I think a lot of that was just, for me, because I had her old VA in my mind when I was playing. 60 hours later I think she's a perfect fit, really. I think it's also just because the further into the plot you get, the more you get to hear the VA working with an actual range of expression.
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Man, Kill Rush loving owns against the Golden Hands in Rise's dungeon Chie also providing the Revolution + Rampage boost as well.
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Meiteron posted:I dunno, I had exactly the same reaction when I started up P4G with regards to her VA (it's even earlier in the thread!) but near the end now I think a lot of that was just, for me, because I had her old VA in my mind when I was playing. 60 hours later I think she's a perfect fit, really. I think it's also just because the further into the plot you get, the more you get to hear the VA working with an actual range of expression. Yeah, this is where I'm at as well. I spent a hell of a lot of time playing the original, so playing a game with a different voice actress for the character who I think has the most spoken lines in the game was just jarring. It judt didn't sound like Chie to me. However, now on my second time through, I like her a lot more. She does sound a bit forced at times still, but she also doesn't sound too old for her character now, so whatever. Anyway, I am level 51 at the start of the third dungeon. Choosing more exp and taking advantage of golden hands is just absurd  . I also decided to make my Jack Frost into a murder machine for the hell of it by gaming shuffle time and going for sweeps, taking all the stat up cards when they appear. I have gotten so many of them that he has stats of a mid-60's level persona at level 40. I don't know why I am bothering with doing this, but it's pretty amusing to me.e: he also knows Mind Charge and Mabufudyne. All I need is Ice Amp and I can make a tag team of Jack and Black Frost and roll with them the rest of the game. I cannot put into words how in love I am with the things you can do to your personas now 
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LaserShark posted:Number one, the Rescue Request system is the most wonderfully It's been driving me nuts recently because for like every 20 fuckers I rescue I get 2 back and gently caress that poo poo
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So I played through P3P on easy recently as it was suggested to ease yourself into the difficulty but man, normal mode is really hard and regular enemies are one shotting me and... I'm just having a hard time in general. Can I get some advice? I'd really appreciate it. I just beat up Shadow Teddie with no problems, but the tanks and champion knights were all doing like, 400-500 damage and just what I feel like I'm going about everything all wrong... Also who's good on a team? I'm using the first three to join you but I have no idea who to keep around now that more options are popping up
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:So I played through P3P on easy recently as it was suggested to ease yourself into the difficulty but man, normal mode is really hard and regular enemies are one shotting me and... I'm just having a hard time in general. Can I get some advice? I'd really appreciate it. It sounds to me like you probably need to grind more if they're hurting you that bad, or maybe get better armor. Also I ran with the first three the entire game when I played, because I already knew their strengths and how to efficiently use them by that point, and gently caress learning new poo poo.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:So I played through P3P on easy recently as it was suggested to ease yourself into the difficulty but man, normal mode is really hard and regular enemies are one shotting me and... I'm just having a hard time in general. Can I get some advice? I'd really appreciate it. I like to level everyone to keep my options open (low level dudes gain exp really fast so it's not a big deal), but I think I'm in the minority. It's nice to get to a boss and be able to say "Who will I bring into this fight" rather than just bringing your one and only team.
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TheJoker138 posted:It sounds to me like you probably need to grind more if they're hurting you that bad, or maybe get better armor. Also I ran with the first three the entire game when I played, because I already knew their strengths and how to efficiently use them by that point, and gently caress learning new poo poo. Fair enough. I figured 34 would be fine for the dungeon and that pyro jack was a good choice but chipping away with 60-80 damage sure was time consuming. Guess that's the problem then. Also did I just spot a clever P3 reference Adachi's rank 5 scene, Nanako reads a book about a pink alligator, the dying dude in P3 wrote that! Neat!
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A lot of characters have their own pros and cons, particularly depending on whether or not you're actively working with their social links. In general, Yukiko and Teddie make good party-wide healers. Your mileage can vary with Yosuke, but if you crank up his social links, he can be a decent emergency healer if you don't rely on items. From how it sounds, Naoto was given an extreme overhaul so that cranking S-Links gets all of the elemental Dyne skills- similar to how Chie and Yukiko get Hama and Mudo. I'd probably say to focus first on having a party-wide healer, then filling out the rest of your team with whoever else you want. If you don't want to have a party-wide healer, you can always perform the task yourself. Can be a bit annoying in boss fights, but it's definitely an option.
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Capsaicin posted:It starts the next time you go into the TV. Okay, that made sense. Speaking of which, what're everyone's messages for the Rescue Requests? Mine is "Bearsona! AWWW YEEEAH! Everyone loves Sweetdiculous bear." Obviously with a Teddie icon 
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To do a quick summary: Yosuke is a bit of a jack-of-all-trades early on, later on he becomes more of a buffer/nuker. Chie is a physical damage dealer through and through. Yukiko is a healer/fire nuker. Kanji is a lot like Chie in that he's a phys damage dealer but he's a bit beefier than her and his magic is worse. Teddie can be tuned to do just about anything: Ice magic nuker, healer, buffer. The only role he can't fulfill is phys damage dealer. It's best to focus on two of those things and making him a nuker/healer just makes him a clone of Yukiko but with ice, so basically he can be a nuker/buffer or a healer/buffer. I guess you could tune him to do all three things at once, but I never tried that. Naoto's in kind of a weird place. Very good at killing random enemies due to having both instant kill elements (and in P4:G, Electric and Ice magic) in dungeons but against bosses the only real option is mind charge + Megidoloan. It does good damage but chews through SP like woah. That said, the Protag's wild card system means you can use literally any party you like, so long as you shore up your party's blind spot with him. The guy can do such insane damage that making him your healer probably isn't ideal, but you can still do it if you really wanna use Chie/Kanji/Yosuke or whatever.
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It really comes down to who has buffs/debuffs for your party. Naoto/Kanji/Teddie is what I use, as MC/Kanji are power charging their first turns, and naoto can Heat Riser both heroes as she's faster than Kanji. Teddie debuffs defence, and you're doing max damage in 2 turns.
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I lucked into a persona that inherited/learned auto party attack and defence and was suprised at the vast diffence those buffs actually made in combat. Since then I've basically had to have those 2 skill on my main persona. Kinda limited my playing style a bit, but it was hard to switch away from those skills as nothing else felt even close as effective.
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Oh right it's worth noting for people playing a persona game for the first time: USE BUFFS/DEBUFFS. Seriously they're actually really important and make things a thousand times easier, unlike every other JRPG ever.
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I've actually played Persona 3 and 4 through a few times and have never really cared about buffs/debuffs. Probably because I have disturbing love of grinding levels in these games so they're never really too hard anyways.
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Magician is the best card ever, hello Megidolan + mind charge + invigorate 2 and 3 in the fourth dungeon.
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