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Didn't someone already mentione the historical inspirations for the names of USA's Gipsy Danger and Australia's Striker Eureka? Cherno Alpha from Russia is pretty obvious too. I like those names. They sound like futuristic military things.
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3 posted:Okay, really? What are you getting at? Outside HL2's striders, I think Spielberg's WotW walkers are the most prominent example of the new trend taking hold. Unless you were patronizing me for not immediately realizing it's from the same franchise. In which case, thanks, I guess?
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I think the particular Japanese thing that the code names are reminding me of is Metal Gear Solid.
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Basically this movie so far is total win. People see everything they love about their (splintered, but sincere) genre in it. All it takes to screw it up is a second trailer with a wisecracking sidekick. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Ramen Pride! posted:All it takes to screw it up is a second trailer with a wisecracking sidekick. Turns out this is Ron Perlman's character all along.
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The MSJ posted:Turns out this is Ron Perlman's character all along.  He could just be Hellboy again.
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Beyond sane knolls posted:I think the particular Japanese thing that the code names are reminding me of is Metal Gear Solid. That's exctly what it is. It was on the tip of my tongue, too.
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Urdnot Fire posted:This is the only way to play a wisecracking sidekick right Now would it be hellboy in a giant mech as well or hellboy like in a control room wisecrackin. I approve of both honestly.
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TontoCorazon posted:Now would it be hellboy in a giant mech as well or hellboy like in a control room wisecrackin. I approve of both honestly.
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Urdnot Fire posted:It would be Hellboy in a giant Hellboy mech as the opener, but then he'd move back to mission control after the credits sequence. I'm sold.
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TontoCorazon posted:I'm sold. No, it would be Charlie Day in a Hellboy mech and... this is getting stupid.
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Urdnot Fire posted:After this, giant monsters/robots will be required in every American film. I want this to happen. I also want large robot toys (which are not necessarily toys of large robots) to return to the western market. Jonah Galtberg posted:Say it with me: this movie is not an anime. Why does this even matter? Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Dec 17, 2012 |
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Rinkles posted:What are you getting at? Outside HL2's striders, I think Spielberg's WotW walkers are the most prominent example of the new trend taking hold. I dunno, something tells me it's not a "new trend" in the slightest. You know Goliath is supposed to be a direct sequel to the book, right?
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Because this movie is literally not an anime, yet everyone can't help but say which Japanese cartoon they wish it was. Is there any inkling to what MPAA rating del Toro is shooting for? I re-watched Blade 2 recently and forgot how unrelentingly violent it was, and would like to see some more of that on a larger, city-destroying, monster-crushing scale. I also forgot how hard Blade 2 rules.
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WatermelonGun posted:Because this movie is literally not an anime, yet everyone can't help but say which Japanese cartoon they wish it was. This is kind of a silly question, as it's an obscenely expensive summer blockbuster in which giant robots punch non-humanoid creatures to death. It'll be PG-13, and I'll venture to guess the MPAA listing for why will say "frightening images, action violence and language".
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The Cameo posted:This is kind of a silly question, as it's an obscenely expensive summer blockbuster in which giant robots punch non-humanoid creatures to death. I figured, but super costly R-rated movies aren't totally out of the question these days. Prometheus made oodles of cash. I guess just wishful thinking on my part. I wanted to see one of my dumbass middle-school sketches come to life. 
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WatermelonGun posted:Because this movie is literally not an anime, yet everyone can't help but say which Japanese cartoon they wish it was. They can't help but compare one of it's primary influences? Say it ain't so! Relevant discussion has no place in Cinema Discussion!
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Undead Unicorn posted:They can't help but compare one of it's primary influences? Say it ain't so! Relevant discussion has no place in Cinema Discussion! Well, it's still kind of early to say anything about primary influences. For all we know it's actually an homage to the best movie about alien monsters coming out of an underwater rift to another dimension and fighting a man-made giant robot: Godzilla vs. Megalon! 
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WatermelonGun posted:I figured, but super costly R-rated movies aren't totally out of the question these days. Prometheus made oodles of cash. I guess just wishful thinking on my part. I wanted to see one of my dumbass middle-school sketches come to life. Well, yeah, but Prometheus was backed by the ALIEN name, which is enough of a brand that Fox eventually decided Ridley's R-rated cut wasn't going to screw the movie's appeal over too much. Dude had cut a PG-13 cut, too, in case Fox said "we're not going to take that risk". Ridley also wanted to have twice the amount of money he got for Prometheus, but took the smaller budget to keep a sliver of a chance of not having to bend things for a rating. Pacific Rim costs much more than Prometheus did.
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WatermelonGun posted:I figured, but super costly R-rated movies aren't totally out of the question these days. Prometheus made oodles of cash. I guess just wishful thinking on my part. I wanted to see one of my dumbass middle-school sketches come to life. Prometheus was directed by superfamous director Ridley Scott and was repeatedly mentioned to be part of the Alien franchise. I don't think Pacifc Rim has that going for them. Even then, Ridley Scott had oppositions making it into an R-rated movie because Fox was more confident with it being PG-13. (That said in my country it got a PG13 with barely any cuts anyway) Edit: Beaten I doubt it needs to be more than PG13 anyway, since the most graphic violence depicted will most likely be inflicted on the jaegers and kaijus. The MPAA won't care for those.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Well, it's still kind of early to say anything about primary influences. Given the art design and the premise, I'd say it isn't. It's just too early to make claims like "This is more of a giant robot anime influenced movie then Godzilla" or something. I am getting a little annoyed at all the Evangelion comparisons myself though, because so far the only similarities between it and Eva, are early Super Robot tropes and setting details. Undead Unicorn fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Dec 17, 2012 |
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3 posted:I dunno, something tells me it's not a "new trend" in the slightest. You know Goliath is supposed to be a direct sequel to the book, right? I didn't realize you guys thought I didn't know WotW was a book. I listened to a great audio version when I was six or seven. All that I was saying is that there seemed to be a resurgence of the three legged motif since Spielberg's movie, without explicitly stating that, yes, it was originally part of Well's description. As I already said, I didn't initially realize the movie was related to the war of the worlds (MSJ said it was based on a Heavy Metal comic, I didn't read the video title). Looking back at my posts I see how you could have gotten the wrong impression of what I was trying to say, which is my fault.
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Undead Unicorn posted:I am getting a little annoyed at all the Evangelion comparisons myself though, because so far the only similarities between it and Eva, are early Super Robot tropes and setting details. This is more what I was getting at. Other than basic premise, we don't know a whole lot about the movie, but everyone has to name their favorite giant robot cartoon and hope that Pacific Rim is just like it. And yeah, my point about Prometheus was dumb. I JUST WANT TO BELIEVE.
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I think most of the Eva comparisons are coming from an earlier proposal for a live-action Evangelion film that, for some reason, is being conflated with Pacific Rim. Rinkles posted:Looking back at my posts I see how you could have gotten the wrong impression of what I was trying to say, which is my fault. Hahaha, no worries. I have a soft spot for the fighting machines and every tripod menace that came afterward. I think the case could be made for them being the first "giant mecha" in fiction, being that they're piloted death walkers.
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Rinkles posted:I didn't realize you guys thought I didn't know WotW was a book. I listened to a great audio version when I was six or seven. New thread title.
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I see exceedingly little Getter Robo chat in this thread. Given that that was pretty much the original 'giant robots versus monsters' manga, this disappoints me. 
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I wonder if we'll get an "Itano Circus" style missile flurry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzXfVgYCxWI It's something that is basically impossible to portray in live action without CGI, with the insane number of missiles, the convoluted paths and the camera weaving in and out of the action, but I find it really effective Fatkraken fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Dec 17, 2012 |
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Ramen Pride! posted:Someone post a list of the stupid names the Secret Service gives politicians or presidents. Secret Service codenames are half PR these days, especially since they release the names (granted they're also a useful shorthand like "Air Force One" or "Marine One"). Because Obama's codename is "Renegade" and that's loving awesome. Like the Pacific Rim robot callsigns.
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Darth Walrus posted:I see exceedingly little Getter Robo chat in this thread. Given that that was pretty much the original 'giant robots versus monsters' manga, this disappoints me. Yeah I dunno maybe it would be good to talk less about mangas and more about the movie and other movies? No doubt there will be callbacks and references to various animes and mangas but I'm having trouble telling whether this thread is in CD or ADTRW at the moment
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Undead Unicorn posted:I am getting a little annoyed at all the Evangelion comparisons myself though, because so far the only similarities between it and Eva, are early Super Robot tropes and setting details.
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Mercrom posted:Well, I don't know anything about giant robot tropes or early Godzilla movies. And here I was afraid this might have gone to archives: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3350308
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Jonah Galtberg posted:Yeah I dunno maybe it would be good to talk less about mangas and more about the movie and other movies? No doubt there will be callbacks and references to various animes and mangas but I'm having trouble telling whether this thread is in CD or ADTRW at the moment It's still CD. I heavily suggest you don't go to the comic book movie thread or Aliens, because holy crap your going to get a poo poo ton more of this. Mercrom posted:Well, I don't know anything about giant robot tropes or early Godzilla movies. What I do know is that Guillermo del Toro is pretty drat good at taking the premise of an emotionally abused child stuck in a war zone and turning it into psychological fantasy-horror. This literally is a stable of Super Robot/Real Robot genre. gently caress that is what Evangelion/Mobile Suit Gundam are about. hosed up kid is in middle of warzone, told to fight, get's even more mentally damaged in the process. More fantastical tropes are then presented "Hey your actually psychic!" or pretty much tons of depressing poo poo from Evangelion. Undead Unicorn fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Dec 17, 2012 |
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Undead Unicorn posted:It's still CD. I heavily suggest you don't go to the comic book movie thread or Aliens, because holy crap your going to get a poo poo ton more of this. I know. Believe me, I know. The comic book movie thread I can sort of kind of understand since the movies are literally direct adaptations... Aliens threads are just painful. I guess I'm choosing to speak up about it in this thread because anime
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Cast interview here. It's not new, but some of the responses are interesting. quote:Ron Perlman: I haven’t seen the movie. I’m just listening like a fanboy to both the panel and now to this, but it seems like you can’t give away the movie. We know it’s monsters and robots. The nuance is in the nuances and the del Toro sensibility of taking the best of mankind and these monsters and trying to figure out which one is which. Because very often in his movies as I’ve come to find out, what is most monstrous is embodied in mankind, and what is most beautiful is in these things that are designated as unacceptable. Pan’s Labyrinth is the perfect example of this upside down designation. So I think we could talk about Pan’s Labyrinth till the cows come home but you’re never going to be able to describe the experience of seeing it, because it had so much to do with his personal vision and point of view about the universe."
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Jonah Galtberg posted:I know. Believe me, I know. The comic book movie thread I can sort of kind of understand since the movies are literally direct adaptations... Aliens threads are just painful. I guess I'm choosing to speak up about it in this thread because anime There's only so much material directly related to the movie to discuss, and at least at the moment it seems to be wearing its influences on its sleeve. If you've got another topic that might be more interesting to discuss, by all means, bring it up, but discussing the genre this appears to be a blatant homage to and how it relates to the trailer isn't off topic at all. Yeah, this is Cinema Discusso, but cinema doesn't exist in a complete vacuum and it'd be disingenuous to pretend otherwise.
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Jonah Galtberg posted:Yeah I dunno maybe it would be good to talk less about mangas and more about the movie and other movies? No doubt there will be callbacks and references to various animes and mangas but I'm having trouble telling whether this thread is in CD or ADTRW at the moment Well the guy did post that sweet PIP of Robot Jox. I, for one, will be very disappointed if there is no crotch weaponry in Pacific Rim. VocalizePlayerDeath posted:Other than the different countries each creating there own giant robots piloted by two human minds synchronized together to battle giant monsters invading earth, there aren't many other similarities between this and Evangelion. Did anyone else get weirded out by the GlaDos voice? Obviously there are many people who have never had any exposure to portal but to me it was just really weird hearing literally the same voice in a completely different context. Since the voice thing was already revealed in the trailer I hope there is at least more portal references in the actual movie itself. Maybe a shot of GlaDos in physical form or just Aperture Science logos all over.
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Longinus00 posted:I hope there is at least more portal references in the actual movie itself. Maybe a shot of GlaDos in physical form or just Aperture Science logos all over. That would make it less weird? I can't really think of something I'd less like to see than a bunch of Portal references in this film.
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Longinus00 posted:Since the voice thing was already revealed in the trailer I hope there is at least more portal references in the actual movie itself. Maybe a shot of GlaDos in physical form or just Aperture Science logos all over. I take it all back. Go hogwild with talking about anime if it means not talking about Portal.
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