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Harlock posted:Amazon is taking pre-orders now. Not seeing it. Do you think you could be a bro and link it? Maybe Amazon Mobile sucks regarding preorder items.
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Ineffiable posted:Isn't this a Canadian Best Buy exclusive? At least for now. Nope. http://us.playstation.com/ps3/systems/ps3-classic-white-bundle.html
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Jan 17, 2013 19:34
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Ineffiable posted:Not seeing it. Do you think you could be a bro and link it? Maybe Amazon Mobile sucks regarding preorder items. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AASQJAM Oddly enough they took the picture for it down already.
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Jan 17, 2013 19:37
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Harlock posted:Right here: From the picture on the box it looks like LBP, Infamous 2 and All 4 One aren't leaving PS+ anytime soon.
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Jan 17, 2013 20:02
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Guh, just got home with DMC, and it seems my Dual Shock's right analogue stick is constantly stuck turning the camera around. Friends' controller works just fine on the console, and the same thing happens whether it's running over Bluetooth or USB, so it's definately unique to the controller. Is this a known thing, or at least a fixable thing? I don't imagine it's as simple as rubbing dust of a circuitboard with modern controllers, and the cost of official controllers seem to be double the cost of games right now 
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Jan 17, 2013 20:21
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Double? Aren't new games and new controllers both about $60?
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Jan 17, 2013 20:27
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Samurai Sanders posted:I'm still a little surprised that the next generation of game consoles is even happening, I keep expecting the entire biz to jump ship and go to smartphones and stuff all at once. The people predicting the demise of consoles are the same people that keep predicting the demise of PC gaming. They tend to have a lot invested in mobile game development, whether by virtue of being developers or investment people focused on that space. They ignore the difference in market/use and just assume everyone would actually rather be playing small games on the go.
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Jan 17, 2013 20:42
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Seriously mobile will never get huge to the point it can take over consoles. As for the comment regarding RAM, it's not neccesarily oh xbox is still powerful. More of the same with the ps3/xbox multi ports being different. It was pretty disheartening to see a few lovely rear end ps3 ports. I really hope it doesn't repeat for the next gen.
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Ineffiable posted:Isn't this a Canadian Best Buy exclusive? At least for now. Nope, it's for all of North America. Launches on the 27th. [edit] Crap, there was a whole other page! Sorry about that.
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Jan 17, 2013 21:19
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Wasn't the big complaint from developers on porting in the beginning that the Cell processor was loving insane + lack of RAM? I mean, these days there are some decent multiplatform ports but Jesus there are some bad ones (I'll never get to play Bayonetta on my PS3). I really, really hope this isn't the case this time around. Ninja edit: Like Bethesda still keeps blaming the PS3's architecture for their games bugs but at this point every other developer seems to either be able to compensate or know how to work with it instead of against it.
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Jan 17, 2013 21:22
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So, is the PS4 going to use more or less off the shelf and well understood hardware this time? Are they abandoning their ridiculous "make it intentionally difficult to program for so devs slowly get better at it, and games gradually get prettier and prettier" plan that they had with the PS3?
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Samurai Sanders posted:So, is the PS4 going to use more or less off the shelf and well understood hardware this time? Are they abandoning their ridiculous "make it intentionally difficult to program for so devs slowly get better at it, and games gradually get prettier and prettier" plan that they had with the PS3? Sony is gung-ho for off the shelf parts now. Vita was largely comprised of it.
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Jan 17, 2013 21:29
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Mobile gaming is getting such a significant reputation because those who didn't use to game much/at all are now able to load up an app and have some fun with interactive gaming experiences. The only real console that would suffer from that shift, I'd think, is the Wii U, with kids and casual gamers wanting an iPad more than a Nintendo console. When it comes to media/gaming systems, consoles certainly aren't going away, and personally as long as these megaram systems have a good price point, I think they'll sell just as great as in the past 7 years. People spelled doom with the Vita in 2012, but I think the Vita is an excellent rebranding of the Playstation line and people are starting to take notice. Now that the PS2 hubris is gone, I think the PS4 is looking more and more promising instead of the mess that was the first three years of the PS3.
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Jan 17, 2013 21:39
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Mobile gaming is successful because it's cheap. That's it.
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Aphrodite posted:Mobile gaming is successful because it's cheap. I wouldn't say that. It's certainly a large factor but the fact it's on a device you always carry around with you, with a constant connection and intuitive games, also plays a big part.
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Jan 17, 2013 22:04
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Despite the idea of RPGs moving to mobile scaring me, if Persona 4 got ported to Android I'd be thrilled out of my little nerd mind
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Jan 17, 2013 22:08
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The funny thing is most companies seem to think that the low price is not a huge factor in why mobile games are so popular. Like square is putting out games on IOS...and charging $15-30 for them. Sony is trying to go all digital but their games cost the same either way. The DS store has a bunch of games that are more expensive there then they are on the app store for no apparent reason. I mean I have way too many apps on my ipod but almost all of them cost somewhere between free and $3. you can't just have a download service and expect to get the sales that dollar games get (or free games with lots of stuff to buy in game).
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axleblaze posted:Like square is putting out games on IOS...and charging $15-30 for them. Haha I know right? I keep seeing Final Fantasy titles pop up on the Play Store and they're all at least $15 if not $20. But honest to god, if P4 got released and it was in HD [like sharp and pretty on my 10" tablet's 720 screen] I would pay $15 for that. I've never played it before, but judging by how god-loving long P3 is, and how much I'm enjoying it, and the potential replay-ability... yeah I can justify $15 for that, regardless of platform.
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It's not liek some of those games aren't worth that much but the Iphone market really aren't used to playing more than $5 for a game. Even $10 is really stretching it. If they released a Persona game for IOS, it would be worth $40 but it's really hard to convince people to pay that much.
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Tyma posted:Guh, just got home with DMC, and it seems my Dual Shock's right analogue stick is constantly stuck turning the camera around. Friends' controller works just fine on the console, and the same thing happens whether it's running over Bluetooth or USB, so it's definately unique to the controller. Turn the console off at the power, turn the controller on, put a pin in the tiny reset button in the back until it factory defaults. Start again. It sounds like a calibration issue.
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Code Jockey posted:Haha I know right? I keep seeing Final Fantasy titles pop up on the Play Store and they're all at least $15 if not $20. I had never played P4 up until the Vita port and it's hands down one of my favorite games ever. Get a vita, you know you want it 
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Jan 17, 2013 22:50
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Jjaarreett posted:I had never played P4 up until the Vita port and it's hands down one of my favorite games ever. Get a vita, you know you want it Shut up shut up shut up I totally do but I can't, I shouldn't, noooo
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Code Jockey posted:Shut up shut up shut up I totally do but I can't, I shouldn't, noooo Shutupyoustupidjerkwhyaren'tyougettingavita Persona 4 Golden is basically one of the best games ever, and with Persona 3 Portable, you can literally have a neat portable system that lets you carry around Persona 3 and 4 in your pocket and play them whenever you want.
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Also EDF! EDF!
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Aphrodite posted:Also EDF! EDF! I do like the taste of EDF's bullets. Also that game is incredibly perfect for portable play.
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If Atlus USA would put out Persona 2: Eternal Punishment PSP in North America I would have every single Persona game on my Vita, and that would rock.
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Aphrodite posted:Also EDF! EDF! Shad up shad up! I've been holding out not getting a Vita. Don't make me do it drat it. 
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As far as the PS4 goes, I might have got a PS3 right close to release, but if the PS4 can't play PS3 games via disc out the box I'll probably be waiting until there's a decently sized library to dip into to make that investment. I wouldn't want my shiny new console sitting around with nothing to play on it! It's kind of ridiculous how strongly I've resisted portable gaming for the past years. I didn't cave on the 3DS or the Vita, yet given how I already own a handful of Vita games thanks to PS+... If I ever do give in, I at least know I'll have a few things to play on it right away. God I love PS+ now.
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Overlord K posted:As far as the PS4 goes, I might have got a PS3 right close to release, but if the PS4 can't play PS3 games via disc out the box I'll probably be waiting until there's a decently sized library to dip into to make that investment. I wouldn't want my shiny new console sitting around with nothing to play on it! I always say this kind of thing, but really all it takes is one game. With the 360 it didn't even take a game. When I heard about the achievement system, I was already sold.
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VarrosAnon posted:People spelled doom with the Vita in 2012, but I think the Vita is an excellent rebranding of the Playstation line and people are starting to take notice. Not to derail the ps4 discussion but as much as I want to like the vita, if they don't have some serious poo poo to show at E3, the Vita is hosed.
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:Not to derail the ps4 discussion but as much as I want to like the vita, if they don't have some serious poo poo to show at E3, the Vita is hosed. I think the same thing was said about the PS3 and its unimpressive start, Sony seems more focused on the long term. I guess it depends on what you mean by hosed. I don't see Sony will abandon the platform.
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Rad Valtar posted:I think the same thing was said about the PS3 and its unimpressive start, Sony seems more focused on the long term. I guess it depends on what you mean by hosed. I don't see Sony will abandon the platform. Even the PS3 had many more games available on it after its first year though. Right now there are nine games scheduled to come out in the US for it between now and March. Not bad actually, but I do think it hurt that it didn't get more lot of ports of the 360/PS3 stuff over the holidays like WWE and so on. They have done something really smart with it though in releasing a $299.99 version that comes with a memory card and a Playstation Plus membership. It's not laughable like the PSP Go since that was released so before its time but, again, the super over priced proprietary memory cards for the Vita probably a mistake. If they want people to have Playstation Plus and be constantly checking the PSN to download the latest stuff and rent movies then they should be raining free memory on customers all the time.
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Neo Rasa posted:Even the PS3 had many more games available on it after its first year though. Right now there are nine games scheduled to come out in the US for it between now and March. Not bad actually, but I do think it hurt that it didn't get more lot of ports of the 360/PS3 stuff over the holidays like WWE and so on. They have done something really smart with it though in releasing a $299.99 version that comes with a memory card and a Playstation Plus membership. It's not laughable like the PSP Go since that was released so before its time but, again, the super over priced proprietary memory cards for the Vita probably a mistake. If they want people to have Playstation Plus and be constantly checking the PSN to download the latest stuff and rent movies then they should be raining free memory on customers all the time. I think they could sell a bunch if they would just drop the price to $199. I agree the price of the memory is crazy, a price cut is definitively needed.
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The Vita's component price is somewhere around $150-170 so yeah Sony's just being greedy as hell with the current price.
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Policenaut posted:The Vita's component price is somewhere around $150-170 so yeah Sony's just being greedy as hell with the current price. You always start a price point 2 above component price, so that you have somewhere to drop to.
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If the Vita dropped to $199, my decision would be a hell of a lot harder, I gotta say. e. oh lame it doesn't have TV out, that sucks.  I dunno, I didn't really expect it to, but that woulda been cool.
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There's been a number of opportunities to get a Vita below $200, I think there's even a $200 bundle at Toys R Us right now. There was like a $180 one with Black Ops or something too I believe. I'm pretty sure that's the only way they sell. It's tempted me because I want to play Persona 4 Golden and I do have PS+ but I still don't think it's at all obvious or preordained that the Vita will recover from its truly awful launch. It was not even a sure thing that the PS3 would, but I think the PS3's situation was considerably better anyway.
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I've been looking to trade my 3DS for a Vita for awhile now but the thing that's stopping me is the fact there's pretty much nothing coming out for the Vita. Like I go to IGN and look at the upcoming games section and there's nothing there at all. Now, sure, I can same pretty much the same thing for the 3DS and the games that are out for the Vita that I want to play are ones I want to play more than the current 3DS games I have but the 3DS is far more likely to pick up at some point while Sony so far have shown me no indication that the Vita is getting anything. They really need to have a helluva E3 but is they announce the PS4 that probably won't happen 
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PS+ was a major factor in me getting a Vita. I had a ton of points on a credit card that I had forgotten about and turned it around into a Assassin's Creed bundle. Add in all the free poo poo I had acquired over time from PS+ for the Vita and my absolute burning love for Persona 3 & 4 as well as wanting to play Zero Escape... It was a no-brainer. It's a sexy little device. I'm really glad I purchased it, although I wish it was getting more love from Sony. Seems like they should have a slightly more aggressive marketing campaign.
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