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ukrainius maximus
Mar 3, 2007
I joined glff on Brandywine to try to find groups from time to time. Holy gently caress is the chat in that channel inane and horrendous for the most part. I guess I'm the rear end in a top hat for not expecting that, it is an MMO after all.

I also like how I can usually guess correctly when someone is an elf just based off of their name alone.

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binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

TheHoosier posted:

I'm just too power-starved right now.

I forget what level you get The Dark Before Dawn (1-2-1-3-1), but once you get it you want to use it in every fight. When I'm soloing, I like to lead with it, so that I have no power issues and only have to pop it again if I'm soloing EM+ monsters. I probably don't have to use it as often as I do, but I like having max power at the start and end of a fight. It does pretty decent damage too, so even if you don't have a pressing need for power you aren't wasting too much dps by including it in your rotations.

I think there is also a trait that will return power on a block, and given that Wardens rely upon B/P/E to survive you might want to consider it.

xZAOx
Sep 6, 2004
PORKCHOP SANDWICHES

Rarity posted:

Why did nobody tell me I can set my arrows on fire? :black101:

Your trainer DID tell you! You can use light too, a few levels later.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
How do fellowship skills work? Sometimes I've been in a group and this huge crest will flash up on screen and I have no idea what I'm meant to do with it

ruffz
Dec 20, 2007

Rarity posted:

How do fellowship skills work? Sometimes I've been in a group and this huge crest will flash up on screen and I have no idea what I'm meant to do with it

The group leader will usually set a fellowship maneuver for a specific instance or boss, and then tell each group member which color they're assigned to and which number in the order they are. When the crest flashes up on screen, you sometimes have to hit your assigned color in the right order for some maneuvers otherwise it gets screwed up and you do a different one. Sometimes your whole group will be low on power and everyone hits blue in no specific order. Might sound complicated at first but it's easy if you're paying attention.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



ruffz posted:

The group leader will usually set a fellowship maneuver for a specific instance or boss, and then tell each group member which color they're assigned to and which number in the order they are. When the crest flashes up on screen, you sometimes have to hit your assigned color in the right order for some maneuvers otherwise it gets screwed up and you do a different one. Sometimes your whole group will be low on power and everyone hits blue in no specific order. Might sound complicated at first but it's easy if you're paying attention.

Your character also can't be moving when you pick your number, and you have to stay immobile until the maneuver is executed. If you accidentally pick the wrong color, you can move and it'll delete your entry and you can enter a new one.

This caused a few headaches recently during some GB/GA runs, but we're getting there.

ruffz
Dec 20, 2007

Anyone having an issue with their LOTRO client crashing when they're logging out trying to switch characters? It does it to me almost every time and just started in the past few days. I've never had any previous crashing problems with the game.

Twisted Perspective
Sep 15, 2005

I've come to see you...

ruffz posted:

Anyone having an issue with their LOTRO client crashing when they're logging out trying to switch characters? It does it to me almost every time and just started in the past few days. I've never had any previous crashing problems with the game.

Yes. Every single drat time. :(

Captain Candiru
Nov 9, 2006

These hips don't lye
This used to happen to me all the time and made me quit for a while, combined with the launcher itself crashing if I had "remember my last server" selected.

I completely reinstalled in a different location (and different hard drive, actually) and haven't had crashes yet. I don't know what the root cause was, though.

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



ruffz posted:

Anyone having an issue with their LOTRO client crashing when they're logging out trying to switch characters? It does it to me almost every time and just started in the past few days. I've never had any previous crashing problems with the game.

I have this constantly. Switching characters works fine, but whenever I exit the game, I get a black screen and have to end the process via task manager. Occasionally if I've been playing for a few hours, the game will crash at a loading screen (seems to happen most often entering buildings or instances).

Glass of Milk
Dec 22, 2004
to forgive is divine
Since I missed buying RoR when it was on sale, I've been (slowly) leveling through killing warbands, crafting and tasks. It seems like a lot of stuff is unavailable to me without having bought the expansion- deeds and reputation, notably. I haven't yet gone to check if I can work on that instanced village to rebuild- does anyone know if it's available if I don't have the expansion?

ruffz
Dec 20, 2007

Glass of Milk posted:

Since I missed buying RoR when it was on sale, I've been (slowly) leveling through killing warbands, crafting and tasks. It seems like a lot of stuff is unavailable to me without having bought the expansion- deeds and reputation, notably. I haven't yet gone to check if I can work on that instanced village to rebuild- does anyone know if it's available if I don't have the expansion?

I'd say it's highly unlikely you'll be able to do that without the expansion, given that they say no quests are available to you in the regions that you don't own. RoR is a really well done expansion and is worth the money if you can afford it.

Radio!
Mar 15, 2008

Look at that post.


loquacius posted:

My main is a champ, and he definitely suffered from chronic power issues until I got wise and started gearing him specifically for a high max power. He gets plenty of ICPR from Fervour without even gearing for that; he just burns through it so drat fast.

I haven't had any power issues on my champ since I started running in Ardour, but apparently I am the only person in the entire game who uses that stance. :shrug:

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Rarity posted:

Why did nobody tell me I can set my arrows on fire? :black101:

I just got this skill and assumed I had to buy some sort of crafted oil or something...

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



More info on fellowship maneuvers, fyi: http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Fellowship_Manoeuvre

Random really dumb RP question: can surnames be shared between players? Like, if Viv and I want to go to a notary and pick the same surname, can we? I know there are "family" options for characters to have parents/children, but is there like... in game family/marriage stuff?

(Can't believe I'm asking this...)

Drone fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jan 18, 2013

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Drone posted:

More info on fellowship maneuvers, fyi: http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Fellowship_Manoeuvre

Random really dumb RP question: can surnames be shared between players? Like, if Viv and I want to go to a notary and pick the same surname, can we? I know there are "family" options for characters to have parents/children, but is there like... in game family stuff?

(Can't believe I'm asking this...)

Wow, an Everquest marriage. Knew you crazy kids would hook up sooner or later! :v:

I'm pretty sure the only restrictions on surnames are (a) nothing offensive (I wanted to give my captain the surname "Bearjew" back when he was using greatclubs all the time and that was apparently too close :smith:), and (b) nothing From The Lore. Point (b) was especially annoying when I wanted to make my hobbit character a member of one of the big important hobbit families (ideally Took, but hell I'd have settled for Proudfoot) only to be rebuffed repeatedly. Man, those families are awesome, why not let us be in one? :mad: Anyway, I don't think having the same surname as another PC is a roadblock here, and the Internet doesn't seem to indicate otherwise. Go nuts.

CheeseSpawn
Sep 15, 2004
Doctor Rope

loquacius posted:

Wow, an Everquest marriage. Knew you crazy kids would hook up sooner or later! :v:

I'm pretty sure the only restrictions on surnames are (a) nothing offensive (I wanted to give my captain the surname "Bearjew" back when he was using greatclubs all the time and that was apparently too close :smith:), and (b) nothing From The Lore. Point (b) was especially annoying when I wanted to make my hobbit character a member of one of the big important hobbit families (ideally Took, but hell I'd have settled for Proudfoot) only to be rebuffed repeatedly. Man, those families are awesome, why not let us be in one? :mad: Anyway, I don't think having the same surname as another PC is a roadblock here, and the Internet doesn't seem to indicate otherwise. Go nuts.

There has been some brilliant names because of the family surnames.

Jemima, Mother of Breakfast
Tesla, Father of Electricity

etc

xZAOx
Sep 6, 2004
PORKCHOP SANDWICHES

Fuzz posted:

I just got this skill and assumed I had to buy some sort of crafted oil or something...

Wasn't sure if you're saying you figured it out, or you're still not sure, so just in case - at your trainer, visit their shop. They sell oil.

ArchWizard
Mar 27, 2009

There's the Roy I know and love.


loquacius posted:

Wow, an Everquest marriage. Knew you crazy kids would hook up sooner or later! :v:

I'm pretty sure the only restrictions on surnames are (a) nothing offensive (I wanted to give my captain the surname "Bearjew" back when he was using greatclubs all the time and that was apparently too close :smith:), and (b) nothing From The Lore. Point (b) was especially annoying when I wanted to make my hobbit character a member of one of the big important hobbit families (ideally Took, but hell I'd have settled for Proudfoot) only to be rebuffed repeatedly. Man, those families are awesome, why not let us be in one? :mad: Anyway, I don't think having the same surname as another PC is a roadblock here, and the Internet doesn't seem to indicate otherwise. Go nuts.

I'm still mad at the game for not letting me be Archafiel Dwarfbro :argh:

Radio!
Mar 15, 2008

Look at that post.


ArchWizard posted:

I'm still mad at the game for not letting me be Archafiel Dwarfbro :argh:

Maybe the idea of dorfs having friends is offensive to Turbine?

I am pretty proud of myself for getting Hwarga Blarga though. :v:

TheHoosier
Dec 30, 2004

The fuck, Graham?!

Somehow, in the storm of memes and jokes, I managed to roll an Elf RK alt named "Notmagic".

:hellyeah:

Brave New World
Mar 10, 2010

xZAOx posted:

Wasn't sure if you're saying you figured it out, or you're still not sure, so just in case - at your trainer, visit their shop. They sell oil.

Or better yet, level the best crafting profession in the game- Scholar! You'll be able to make your own Fire Oil, Light Oil, Hunter Books, Bow Chants, Potions, Scrolls of Warding and Scrolls of Battle Lore. And because you'll also be a Weaponsmith, you'll be crafting from a wide variety of Hunter Traps and off hand weapons.

I learned about the Hunter/Historian synergy from someone here at SA back when I first started, and strongly recommend it to every other Hunter too.

Captain Candiru
Nov 9, 2006

These hips don't lye
Chicken Time! Anyone interested in being a chicken needs to log in and head to Michael Delving right now.

Captain Candiru
Nov 9, 2006

These hips don't lye
First night of chickening is done, good progress was made!

:siren:Next Friday at 6PM Pacific/9PM Eastern we will be continuing the Chicken Run!:siren:

Zones finished: Trollshaws, Bree, Evendim (most left after this one)

We had a casualty during Trollshaws, though, so I'll be down to run them through and kill stuff along the way pretty much whenever they want.

A few of us also hit North Downs but since it was less than half of the original group I'm not going to call it "done."

So, next Friday's goals are in this order: Ered Luin, Lone Lands, North Downs. That will give most of the participants from this evening a Cloak!

Evendim claimed a lot of lives, as well, so I'll be running that after North Downs, most likely.

If anyone else wants to join for round two, feel free. Just make sure you go through the quest chain to the point where you've completed Shire "Flying the Coop" quest.


Captain Candiru fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Jan 19, 2013

Radio!
Mar 15, 2008

Look at that post.


Aw yiss :parrot:

Thank you guys again for putting up with my computer issues.



Captain Backslap posted:

We had a casualty during Trollshaws, though, so I'll be down to run them through and kill stuff along the way pretty much whenever they want.

I didn't do Trollshaws either, so if Njorun wants to co-ordinate a time, I'd love to tag along whenever you do it.

Captain Candiru
Nov 9, 2006

These hips don't lye
Yeah, meant to include mother hen, too.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003

Radio! posted:

I didn't do Trollshaws either, so if Njorun wants to co-ordinate a time, I'd love to tag along whenever you do it.

We can hit Trollshaws while they're doing Evendim or something.

headsupsevenup
Sep 22, 2004

Okay.

CheeseSpawn posted:

There has been some brilliant names because of the family surnames.

Jemima, Mother of Breakfast
Tesla, Father of Electricity

etc

Oh man, I have a hobbit warden named Aunt Jemima, where do you get the Mother of Breakfast title I need this so bad :ohdear:

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003
It's pretty obviously one of the titles that come from forming relationships with other players. You'd need to find whoever owns Breakfast and let you be their mother.

xZAOx
Sep 6, 2004
PORKCHOP SANDWICHES
:siren: 56k warning :siren:

Oh leader, lead us to greatness!


What will be in store for us on this great journey...


We have traveled far, but still so far to go!


A mighty defender rises to protect the flock!


Us hens love The Cock.


Also, I hate how settings get wiped. Now you can't see my beautiful name in my own screenshots!

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
I ended up going out last night and missed this. How hard/long is it to solo the stuff you guys did to get caught up for the next run?

TheHoosier
Dec 30, 2004

The fuck, Graham?!

I am really sorry I missed this. It looks really funny

Captain Candiru
Nov 9, 2006

These hips don't lye

Evil Fluffy posted:

I ended up going out last night and missed this. How hard/long is it to solo the stuff you guys did to get caught up for the next run?

Didn't really start keeping track of time until after the Evendim visit, but by the time me and the few remaining folks were done with North Downs just about over 4 hours had been spent. So maybe 3.5 hours total to catch up. That time also included occasional 5-10 minute breaks, too.

I also stuck to roads to try to keep it as safe as possible as often as possible. Runs go way faster if you can risk shortcuts through wilder territory.

Just getting to the "Flying the Coop" stage only takes about 30 minutes, though.

xZAOx
Sep 6, 2004
PORKCHOP SANDWICHES

Evil Fluffy posted:

I ended up going out last night and missed this. How hard/long is it to solo the stuff you guys did to get caught up for the next run?

Yeah, as Captain said, you do the introductory stuff, then join the flock on the other ones. The zone-based quests can be done in any order when they're open.

As far as difficulty, it really just depends. The red dots on the mini-map help a ton, but Trollshaws has hidden cats (and that's what got Nojurn), and that was with Hwarga killing a lot of stuff for us too. We also lost 3 on Envendim through a bad part on the road. So a lot of it can depend on luck of where and when things decide to path. Definitely easier with a guard though.

TheHoosier posted:

I am really sorry I missed this. It looks really funny

We didn't even get screens of some better parts. Mobbing people when we saw them, Nojurn's poor corpse, a max-level LM who followed us for a while nuking everything with one-shot spells, someone on a horse who kept on autofollowing us (who we ended up abandoning in the middle of the NE lake in Bree-land, hah). We had lots of dumb fun.

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003
Yeah, for four hours spent running around as a level 1 creature, that was surprisingly fun.

Captain Candiru
Nov 9, 2006

These hips don't lye
It is significantly less fun if you do it solo, too. The nature of session play is that you're essentially on a new separate account, which means no chat channels, no kin chat, no friends list, nothing. You basically are all alone for an hour just running down roads. Ventrillo made a huge difference, too, so a huge loving thanks for that server, as well.

Anonymouse Mook
Jul 12, 2006

Showing Vettel the way since 1979

When were people planning on doing an EU timezone chicken run?

kzin602
May 14, 2007




Grimey Drawer
Thanks for the chickenrun. Even though I died in Evendim after taking an unfortunate detour, I enjoyed escorting the stragglers once I logged my hunter on.

x-post from Mechwarrior online:

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Captain Backslap posted:

Didn't really start keeping track of time until after the Evendim visit, but by the time me and the few remaining folks were done with North Downs just about over 4 hours had been spent. So maybe 3.5 hours total to catch up. That time also included occasional 5-10 minute breaks, too.

I also stuck to roads to try to keep it as safe as possible as often as possible. Runs go way faster if you can risk shortcuts through wilder territory.

Just getting to the "Flying the Coop" stage only takes about 30 minutes, though.

I am tempted to go back and do it all again for the Crosser of Roads title...

Way I see it, you go straight to Ered Luin, then come back and do all the poo poo in Hobbiton, then go up to Evendim for the ent, then across to North Downs, then down into Bree-Land for those four before going on to the Lone Lands and then Trollshaws... but the risk there is getting to the Trollshaws and then getting killed, because seriously, I don't know how the gently caress you would get up those switchbacks without having someone to escort you, the spawns are way too thick, and CATS.

I was the only one to go on to finish it after North Downs that night... all said and done, Ered Luin was a joke compared to ALL of the other ones... hands down the easiest of all the runs, so I guess warm yourself up with that or save it for last, up to you. In terms of difficulty, hardest to lowest, it's:

Trollshaws (by a HUGE margin)
Lone Lands
Evendim
North Downs
Bree-Land
Ered Luin

Honestly, if you stick to roads, all of them are just time consuming, especially swimming across the lake in Evendim, but Trollshaws literally has no roads at the end, and it's just hosed up hard in comparison to the others. That one alone took us about an hour and a half to do. Personally when I ended up running off solo in Bree, Ered, Evendim, and half of North Downs, I just skipped the roads and ran through forests to save time. Wasn't too bad.

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Captain Candiru
Nov 9, 2006

These hips don't lye
Also, I checked my free range deeds and it includes a trip to Angmar! Don't forget that you aren't just talking to the same guys over again, either. You have to find three stones in each zone as well.

A non-escorted Trollshaws climb isn't as bad as it initially looks because aggro ranges in this game don't work quite like you'd expect. In other MMOs if you are level 1 and you encounter a level 40 bear you will get chased from a considerable distance away. Basically, lower than creature = increasing aggro range and higher than creature = decreasing aggro range.It doesn't work like that in LOTRO, which I discovered when I took my level 20 Loremaster up that hill in order to progress in the scholar guild. That's why me and a bunch of people didn't get slaughtered at one point when Hwarga missed a cat nearby a tree.

You also have a lot of cooldown abilities you can play with. 1 minute of play dead on a 2 minute cooldown, 50% evade chances, high speed, etc. It's not so bad, you just end up having to wait for nasty things to path out of your way and absolutely never move without your stealth detection active during that last stretch.

Edit: I also went ahead and got my cloak before going to bed, too.

Captain Candiru fucked around with this message at 05:24 on Jan 20, 2013

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