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khwarezm posted:Can you really have nostalgia for something that's not even 5 years old? Do you not?
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SpookyLizard posted:Do you not? Not really, it'd probably take a decade before I'd be Nostalgic for something v  v, I.E. I have nostalgia for the original Matrix but not the Dark knight, both good films though.
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Jan 24, 2013 01:01
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khwarezm posted:Unfortunately no, The only other specific low int dialogue is with a few followers of the apocalypse. Still, I did an amusing run with a guy who would fail every speech check possible, and just generally mess up quests given to him, G.I. blues is particularly flexible to this way of playing. There's also a low-int dialog option when you meet Veronica. When she asks what you think of the Brotherhood, you can say "I hear they shoot lasers out of their eyes". Don't remember her reaction.
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Jan 24, 2013 01:07
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Sam. posted:There's also a low-int dialog option when you meet Veronica. When she asks what you think of the Brotherhood, you can say "I hear they shoot lasers out of their eyes". Don't remember her reaction. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4M4NmT2ywU
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Jan 24, 2013 01:14
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Eiba posted:Which fits perfectly in with the theme of religion. Not only did it change the way I did HH but his rifle became my weapon of choice throughout the game. Hell every character takes up that holy relic to bring justice, except maybe for gimmick runs. It is the only gun that should kill Lanius. I would say Caesar but I always give that one to Boone. Always. It seems Survivors notes touch most people that way. I thought it was a brilliant touch by Obsidian. Still wish we could go back to HH and see more. Hell I wish I could just explore all the world in an Obsidian Fallout game. 
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Jan 24, 2013 01:33
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Von_Doom posted:Not only did it change the way I did HH but his rifle became my weapon of choice throughout the game. Hell every character takes up that holy relic to bring justice, except maybe for gimmick runs. It is the only gun that should kill Lanius. I would say Caesar but I always give that one to Boone. Always. It seems Survivors notes touch most people that way. I thought it was a brilliant touch by Obsidian. Still wish we could go back to HH and see more. Hell I wish I could just explore all the world in an Obsidian Fallout game. Boone is pretty deadly with the Survivalist's Rifle, one time I was fighting Lanius and Boone was able to pop all of his lackeys by himself while I took care of the guy. I don't use it as much once I finish HH because of the fairground sights but Boone doesn't have that problem.
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Jan 24, 2013 01:48
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Huh. According to the logs he left, the Survivalist went apeshit on the Vault 22 survivors because he says they cannibalized the Mexican family, but their log doesn't mention that at all. Self-serving bias, I guess? He must have had crazy stealth skills, too, to live in that valley for decades and never be spotted once by anyone living there, at least, nobody that lived to tell the tale.
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Jan 24, 2013 01:59
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Speedball posted:Huh. According to the logs he left, the Survivalist went apeshit on the Vault 22 survivors because he says they cannibalized the Mexican family, but their log doesn't mention that at all. Self-serving bias, I guess? Most people don't write down that they've eaten a bunch of other people. I too would love to see a full on Fallout game from Obsidian.
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Jan 24, 2013 02:01
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"Hey sister, you and those titties free for a moment?" I don't remember that being there. 
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Jan 24, 2013 02:01
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Roobanguy posted:"Hey sister, you and those titties free for a moment?" I don't remember that either! Is it a male-Courier only thing or is it an Evil Karma thing?
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Jan 24, 2013 02:04
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Speedball posted:I don't remember that either! Is it a male-Courier only thing or is it an Evil Karma thing? The person playing probably has a sex mod installed. I really doubt Obsidian putting something like that into their game. Probably also the reason why she looks kinda off.
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Jan 24, 2013 02:07
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Sam. posted:There's also a low-int dialog option when you meet Veronica. When she asks what you think of the Brotherhood, you can say "I hear they shoot lasers out of their eyes". Don't remember her reaction. It's not really a low intelligence option, it's the response if you don't pass a 6 intelligence check. You can get it with 5 intelligence.
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Jan 24, 2013 02:43
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Lonesome road was a really disappointing ending to the game, in my opinion. Having all of the backstory of Ulysses be optional journal entries loving sucks, since by this point I don't feel like combing over every square inch for trinkets. The enemies are boring bullet sponges, the final fight with Ulysses is stupid as poo poo and breaks previous rules of the game to make things more climactic, and overall it felt rushed and linear. I had to go to the wiki to get the full story of the game. Pretty weak, considering how good everything else is.
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Jan 24, 2013 04:22
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What rules does it break?
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Jan 24, 2013 04:41
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Why not just go to the wiki to get the locations of the journal entries? Then you could see how Ulysses's backstory is used in the game itself. As for being linear, it's probably to save money (DLCs sell less the later they come out so it probably had a tiny budget) but it's also a way of reinforcing the theme of obsession: whatever else may be in the Divide, all the Courier is interested in is getting to Ulysses. Kellsterik posted:I know when Graham explains their beliefs you have the option to own him with atheist wisdom and laugh in his face, I think there's also an option to say like "hmm, interesting" but that's about as far as it goes.
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Jan 24, 2013 05:01
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Ravenfood posted:What rules does it break? Ulysses has regenerating health, and there's a dumb gimmick to the battle. Even when I fought Elijah he still died like anything else.
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Jan 24, 2013 05:04
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sector_corrector posted:Ulysses has regenerating health, and there's a dumb gimmick to the battle. Even when I fought Elijah he still died like anything else. Other hilarious anticlimaxes encountered during Lonesome Road: - Killing the Tunneler Queen without realizing she was the Tunneler Queen. Saw a knot of them approaching, hosed them down with 12.7mm, only realized when I was looting the bodies. - Chemming up to fight Rawr in what I thought would be a pants shittingly close fight, then reducing his health to two pips with a single sneak crit headshot. 4/0 buck magnum finishes the job.
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Jan 24, 2013 06:12
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2house2fly posted:The top option when Joshua explains about eternity in Heaven as a reward for doing good works is "sounds like a good deal to me" or something similar. My character was a grizzled dude who's had a hard life and I couldn't hammer that option fast enough. Also I kept the Scripture you get at the end of the DLC for the rest of the game; there was something comforting about it. I did this also. I mean sure, my courier might not know what communism is, or what a high school is, or what religion is, but if it works for you, probably one of the most tortured single individuals in the game, well, go right on ahead.
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Jan 24, 2013 06:17
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Honestly, the best part of Honest Hearts is tearing apart Ricky's story piece by piece. It just feels so good
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Jan 24, 2013 06:19
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PBJ posted:Honestly, the best part of Honest Hearts is tearing apart Ricky's story piece by piece. It just feels so good It should give you something like FO3's Dream Crusher perk.
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Jan 24, 2013 06:21
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Tupperwarez posted:I thought Ulysses regenerated health because he had those eyebots healing him. Either way, there's very little a medical eyebot could do after I dumped a mag 12.7mm into his face. He barely got away from the steps. He does, and you can disable them, but it's a dumb gimmick that doesn't fit with the rest of the game in my opinion.
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Jan 24, 2013 06:33
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HitTheTargets posted:It should give you something like FO3's Dream Crusher perk. Ah yes, the patented Douche Booter perk. Plus 10% critical chance to over-inflated egos.
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Jan 24, 2013 06:34
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Know what was the most satisfying Ulysses fight I ever had? Not the time I doped up on every combat chem I had and punched him to death in one ultra-flurry of VATS. The time I loaded my fully modded, top-condition Anti-Materiel rifle with exploding bullets and oneshot him in the face. God that was good.
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Jan 24, 2013 06:36
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3Romeo posted:Tonally, that isn't Fallout. But it was a blast, so I don't really care. Whenever people talk about what is and isn't Fallout, they seem to forget that Fallout 2 was loaded to the brim with pop culture references, wacky one-off encounters and talking deathclaws squatting in Vault 13.
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Jan 24, 2013 07:16
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Tupperwarez posted:- Chemming up to fight Rawr in what I thought would be a pants shittingly close fight, then reducing his health to two pips with a single sneak crit headshot. 4/0 buck magnum finishes the job. Killing Rawr is even more hilarious if you take his hand and make it into the Fist of Rawr for your unarmed char. That thing makes things die so fast. I took a char with that into the Deathclaw lair on the far side of the river and everything died really quick. With the right chems, I took on a Deathclaw Mother and Alpha at the same time and lived despite going unarmed.
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Jan 24, 2013 07:52
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3Romeo posted:This is pretty much my argument when I say that Fallout 3 is a good game. I mean, it isn't written nearly as well as Vegas, it doesn't have the subtlety of Vegas, and it doesn't have the characterization of Vegas (seriously, your dad is the best written character, and there isn't a lot to him)...but walking down the National Mall with Lincoln's Repeater, dressed in pre-war attire, en route to scavenge the loving Declaration of Independence for a dude named Abraham Washington, while President Eden talks about baseball and dogs in between songs like Yankee Doodle Dandy and the Marine Corps Hymn? All that, it loving owns. I think this could be said about any Bethesda game. Their stories and characters etc are all crap (I'm convinced Beth doesn't quite understand the concept that your main story should lead you to slowly explore the world, and instead has it send you to the ENDS OF THE EARTH to complete a simple set of tasks), but just that feel of walking down the national mall blowing the poo poo out of everyone as Linclon, or yelling so loud the enemy flies off a mountain, or storming your way through a demonic tower just feels more epic than other games. On a side note: http://conversationparade.tumblr.com/tagged/fallout-dating-sim Is slightly creepy to me. Particularly because one of the options is the character Obs named after me (long story, involves fanfics).
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Jan 24, 2013 08:13
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Calax posted:On a side note: Oh God, Oliver- I need this game so bad. Wonder how Butch got there, though. EDIT: Yeah, I'm looking forward to this. 
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Jan 24, 2013 08:20
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CommissarMega posted:Oh God, Oliver- I need this game so bad. Wonder how Butch got there, though. Standard bad boy archtype? I mean, they boiled Oliver down to a "tsundere" character because of his MESSED up dialogue assignment. So it figures that Butch would boil down to the "greaser" stereotype.
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Jan 24, 2013 08:24
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Kalos posted:Whenever people talk about what is and isn't Fallout, they seem to forget that Fallout 2 was loaded to the brim with pop culture references, wacky one-off encounters and talking deathclaws squatting in Vault 13. The wackiness and inconsistencies from FO2 don't even stack up to the wackiness and inconsistencies in FO3.
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Jan 24, 2013 09:10
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SpookyLizard posted:The wackiness and inconsistencies from FO2 don't even stack up to the wackiness and inconsistencies in FO3. Perhaps. On the other hand, updates on Arroyo are given to you in visions from your village's psychic drug-abusing shaman. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms you can level at Fallout 3, I don't think "being silly" is really one of them.
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Jan 24, 2013 09:29
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Calax posted:On a side note: Godammit why isn't this out yet 
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Jan 24, 2013 09:31
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Pope Guilty posted:Man, you do not understand the Boomers at all. Yeah, this is to the kids a cool reminder of what happen way back when Pre War America's capitalism was at it's peak. Its totally awesome for them... Also, on the lack of looms, think about how precious a gun is compared to clothing. Besides Brahmin leather probably is harder to work with and the lack of linen and other clothing related crops may hamper the idea of a loom.
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Jan 24, 2013 09:49
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Nnng, less than 2000 health to go on the "heal yourself with food" trophy. MAN this is time-consuming. Then I need to pump up my skills enough to be able to melee deathclaws with boxing tape for that last GRA challenge. Foof.
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Jan 24, 2013 09:54
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Fallout 2 is basically Family Guy.
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In retrospect I'm actually a little surprised there wasn't a New Reno DLC. They bring it up a few times and it's not too much of a stretch to see them as Vegas' competitors for gambling, drugs or crime. Plus, y'know. I want to meet Mr. Bishop. Since he, too, likes to wander the wastes maybe he'd be a temporary companion!
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Jan 24, 2013 10:24
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SpookyLizard posted:The wackiness and inconsistencies from FO2 don't even stack up to the wackiness and inconsistencies in FO3. FO3 doesn't have a quest given to you by a ghost
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Jan 24, 2013 11:23
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Speedball posted:Then I need to pump up my skills enough to be able to melee deathclaws with boxing tape for that last GRA challenge. Foof. At one point I hosed up and aggro'ed three at once, but I managed to get their legs with panicked SMG fire, then capped them with the .22. Just about had a heart attack when poo poo was going down, though. Armor was shredded, lost an arm, and I had a powerful hankering for Med-X, but I got me that challenge, goldurnit! Now, to kill cazadores with Long-Fuse Dynamite... 
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Jan 24, 2013 12:13
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Tupperwarez posted:Now, to kill cazadores with Long-Fuse Dynamite... AHahaha. Actually I did quite well using Tin Can Grenades.
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Jan 24, 2013 12:55
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Tupperwarez posted:Now, to kill cazadores with Long-Fuse Dynamite... That's incredibly easy. If you get a hit in VATS, they just sit on top of it without moving.
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Kalos posted:Perhaps. On the other hand, updates on Arroyo are given to you in visions from your village's psychic drug-abusing shaman. Technically you can, you just have to level that criticism at Fallout 2 as well. I know, because there are NMA 'fans' who refuse to acknowledge FO2 as canon.
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