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Jeabus Mahogany posted:Sometimes, a game just wants to let you break things. I doubt it. 13 was so insanely successful for them that they'll at least keep the lower level difficulties accessible to normal people.
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I want this game to be a huge hit so we get a sequel...and a new Advance Wars game. Make it happen!
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Something I just wondered about, is there a compilation of all the "Item broken!" sound clips from all the games pieced together? They always make me laugh because I can't take that sad melody for an item seriously.
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Slate Action posted:I want this game to be a huge hit so we get a sequel...and a new Advance Wars game. Make it happen! I'm not going to speculate about AW, but we'll almost certainly see a sequel to Awakening. Not only was it really popular, but FE titles are almost always released in duologies anyway.
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SloppyDoughnuts posted:Is casual and classic a toggle-able thing or a one-time choice at the start? If it's something you only pick at the beginning I might just have to play on casual. I can't see myself playing Katarina's dlc with permanent death. Just going to chime in and say that it's not significantly harder to beat Katarina's DLC deathlessly than it is to just beat it at all. Pretty much the only difference between the two is that to keep people alive you need almost everyone to have lightning speed, instead of just a lot of them.
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RuBisCO posted:I'm assuming you've played all the DLC? How are they? Would you say it's worth it to shell out for all of them? Well, we don't actually know what they'll go for here, so I'd imagine that would be a bit hard to answer. I guess s/he could answer going by yen, but I don't think you should place too much emphasis on that, at least not yet.
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RuBisCO posted:I'm assuming you've played all the DLC? How are they? Would you say it's worth it to shell out for all of them? Yeah, I have all the DLC. Here's my general opinion (ignoring the actual aesthetics of the characters and only caring about the gameplay value): Marth - is free at launch so why not get it Roy - not worth it Micaiah - gives an important skill and is the best grinding map on lunatic for characters level 40-60 or so Leaf - not worth it Alm - gives a neat class Celice - gives an incredibly important skill for grinding and is the best grinding map on lunatic for characters level 60+ Elincia - not worth it Eirika - gives a class that's kind of neat but largely skippable. Optimized teams will have one character sniper a single skill from it and then reclass back out Lyn - gives a bad skill, skippable Ephraim - the first truly postgame DLC. Worth it if you want a challenge that tests your endgame team rather than a crazy minmaxed team Celika - not worth it Ike - gives a skill that is an absolute prerequisite for some of the later DLC Gold and Silver - only easy way to go infinite on money in lunatic Entombed Heaven - practically the only way to grind level 1-40 characters in lunatic. Not actually faster than doing skirmishes if in normal or hard Infinite Divine Weapons - kind of a pain to grind weapons out of, and the only divine weapons that even come close to mattering are Swanchika, Ragnell, Gradivus, and Fala Flame, and Fala Flame and Ragnell are the only ones that can't be approximated by forging 1-2 range weapons. Forged brave weapons are better than all the 1-range divine weapons. Future of Despair series - probably worth it, I can only understand about 50% of the dialogue without poring over a dictionary but the extra story seemed ok Ultimate Training series - 1, 3, and 4 are all very good, interesting maps with plenty of strategic depth. 4 mostly requires limit breaker, whereas the first 3 don't (and 2 is trivialized by it). Bonds series - almost certainly worth it, though I can't say for sure because I'm not super-fluent in Japanese.
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How do skills work exactly? Can I just earn as many skills as I want then equip the ones I want when applicable? Or do you only get a max of 5 at any time?
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KoB posted:How do skills work exactly? Can I just earn as many skills as I want then equip the ones I want when applicable? Or do you only get a max of 5 at any time? You can learn as many as you like then swap them around as you please. The only limit is that only 5 can be active at once and the one in the last slot of those 5 is inherited by any children the character might have when the time comes with the exception of Chrom who always passes down Aether or Royal Weapon.
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Jan 28, 2013 20:40
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cheetah7071 posted:Yeah, I have all the DLC. Here's my general opinion (ignoring the actual aesthetics of the characters and only caring about the gameplay value): B... but Dra... Drakengard Roy... 
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When you reclass/promote Leaf the game should just keep him in the exact same class he already is but give him +1 str.
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Jan 28, 2013 21:19
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KoB posted:How do skills work exactly? Can I just earn as many skills as I want then equip the ones I want when applicable? Or do you only get a max of 5 at any time? You can have 5 at any time and through careful marriage end up with characters who have skills they don't otherwise have access to. A manakate with the +20% to Growths skill is the absolute best thing. At least a point in every single stat every single level. 
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ImpAtom posted:A manakate with the +20% to Growths skill is the absolute best thing. At least a point in every single stat every single level. Welp, I was trying to figure out who I thought would be best for the Villager guy to pair with and this has got to be it. Speaking of manaketes, do they still have to rely on a limited use non-replenishable item for their attack or are things a little nicer in that regard now?
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:Welp, I was trying to figure out who I thought would be best for the Villager guy to pair with and this has got to be it. Speaking of manaketes, do they still have to rely on a limited use non-replenishable item for their attack or are things a little nicer in that regard now? Too bad the only Manakete Donny can be paired with is incredibly terrible and impossible to justify using ever. And her daughter is just as insufferable.
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:Welp, I was trying to figure out who I thought would be best for the Villager guy to pair with and this has got to be it. Speaking of manaketes, do they still have to rely on a limited use non-replenishable item for their attack or are things a little nicer in that regard now?
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Captain Oblivious posted:Too bad the only Manakete Donny can be paired with is incredibly terrible and impossible to justify using ever. Define incredibly terrible? Gameplay wise or annoying as poo poo wise?
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The Iron Rose posted:Define incredibly terrible? Gameplay wise or annoying as poo poo wise? Let me just quote her character page: "She looks and acts like a child, but is actually more than a thousand years old. Loves playing outside, like any child would, and is always searching for a playmate."
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ImpAtom posted:You can have 5 at any time and through careful marriage end up with characters who have skills they don't otherwise have access to. Unless they majorly increased the growths, HP will be the only growth over 100% with Donnel/Nowi, so I'm not sure what to make of this post. e: also every single manakete in this game is an absolute wrecking ball, and I'll be damned if any character traits short of Makalov's bright pink afro are enough to stop me from using a good unit.
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cheetah7071 posted:Unless they majorly increased the growths, HP will be the only growth over 100% with Donnel/Nowi, so I'm not sure what to make of this post. Yes, at least a point in every stat, more than one in HP.
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ImpAtom posted:Yes, at least a point in every stat, more than one in HP. That still doesn't follow since Donnel+Nowi's kid has an average non-HP growth of 75% with Good Growths active. Not that 75% is anything to sneeze at, but it's hardly perfect levels every time. Donnel's still a good pairing with her though since he's one of two dads that can give a daughter access to the Pegasus Knight class tree and thus the Lightning Speed skill.
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Zurai posted:That still doesn't follow since Donnel+Nowi's kid has an average non-HP growth of 75% with Good Growths active. Not that 75% is anything to sneeze at, but it's hardly perfect levels every time. I literally did not get a level with her where she didn't get a point in every stat. I could be RNG gifted but it sure as hell weights the RNG in your favor.
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It's possible they increased growth rates. We already know the Avatar's HP growth at least is increased since it's possible to get +2 HP levels in the demo if you take the HP blessing.
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Infinite dragonstones are simultaneously one of the best and worst things IS has done in this game. On the one hand, dragons finally get to be useful for the entire game, which is pretty great. On the other, it means I have to try and weigh the merits of maximum dragons v.s. getting the most out of the Avatar's awesome Spd modifier, which is pretty easily the hardest decision left for my setup. why must you force me to make this choice IS there is no path that will not lead to regret
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I straight up made a few diagrams to figure out things like pairing people off, who's being a magical or physical fighter, and just how many male children can get Lightning Speed shoved on them. It was a helpful exercise in taking the edge off anticipation, for me.  Zurai posted:It's possible they increased growth rates. We already know the Avatar's HP growth at least is increased since it's possible to get +2 HP levels in the demo if you take the HP blessing. Growth rates this time are pretty nice. You can play around with the SF growth rate calculator to investigate.  Please note: that page has every possible character and every possible class for each character in the drop-down menus, so it is very spoiler-laden. Take care in clicking
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Ern Malley posted:Growth rates this time are pretty nice. You can play around with the SF growth rate calculator to investigate. Yes, I know. As noted, those growth rates are at least partially incorrect, as either the Avatar's base HP growth or the bonus from HP blessing have been increased in the NA release. It's quite possible growths have been tweaked across the board.
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It's not like it's unprecedented, they did some growth tweaking/base stat tweaking in the NA version of FE8, notably giving Rennac +8 base resistance for some reason.
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Ern Malley posted:I straight up made a few diagrams to figure out things like pairing people off, who's being a magical or physical fighter, and just how many male children can get Lightning Speed shoved on them. It was a helpful exercise in taking the edge off anticipation, for me. I would be interested to see what you came up with if you are willing to share, otherwise I imagine I will probably do something similar this week as well. Captain Oblivious posted:Too bad the only Manakete Donny can be paired with is incredibly terrible and impossible to justify using ever. I have a high tolerance for annoyance and insufferable characters if it is in the name of Bigger Numbers. God I love me some numbers.
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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:I would be interested to see what you came up with if you are willing to share, otherwise I imagine I will probably do something similar this week as well. Big dumb PM sent to you, because this sort of thing might be too spoiler-y to discuss in the thread at the moment. 
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RuBisCO posted:Here's a brief "How to Eugenics" in case anyone just wants a quick cliff notes sort of deal on what to watch out for: Can we get this into the OP?
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MinionOfCthulhu posted:Can we get this into the OP? Cake Attack posted:Inheritance:  (Okay, his is a little more indepth, but still. I'll add it in anyway though.)
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So there's some buzz going around that the street date has been broken in Toronto and EBGames might start selling/shipping copies a bit early (whether or not this applies only to the Toronto area is unclear). Fair warning, my only source is GameFAQs. edit: i am crossing all my fingers that this comes to vancouver.
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RuBisCO posted:So there's some buzz going around that the street date has been broken in Toronto and EBGames might start selling/shipping copies a bit early (whether or not this applies only to the Toronto area is unclear). It's less the street date being broken and more that Nintendo of Canada hosed up and apparently forgot to put a street date on it at all, so stores can just start selling it as soon as it shows up. That's what the guys at my EB told me when I picked it up at least.
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Slate Action posted:Does anyone have any information about this? Amazon's run through their initial allotment of the game and are working from backorders at this point; the point being that people who order now are going to have to wait for the second printing/shipment. Which will happen because Awakening is selling out everywhere. It is glorious to see.
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It's not street dated in the US either. On my pre-order receipt it doesn't have the "SD *insert date* on it. In comparison to my Ni No Kuni pre-order (I pre-ordered both games at the same time), it has "SD 1/22" after the title. I was able to pick up the later on the 22nd right when the store opened. It will probably get fixed in their system tomorrow. Still, not going to stop me from harassing
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Brain One Seven posted:It's less the street date being broken and more that Nintendo of Canada hosed up and apparently forgot to put a street date on it at all, so stores can just start selling it as soon as it shows up. That's what the guys at my EB told me when I picked it up at least. Wait so EB in Canada is breaking the street date already? Looks like I've got an extra trip to make tomorrow.
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SpaceDrake posted:Amazon's run through their initial allotment of the game and are working from backorders at this point; the point being that people who order now are going to have to wait for the second printing/shipment. So since I pre-ordered the game last week, when that notice was already up, I'm not guaranteed a copy the week of the 4th? Hmm. Well if they don't sort it out by the 4th I'd still have the option of cancelling my pre-order and buying a digital copy...I don't have to make that decision until it ships.
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I tried ordering from Target, and it seems to have worked out fine. Maybe try with other retailers of the game like Target or Walmart or Best Buy? It's great news that Gamestop and Amazon are running low, though. This game is in high demand!
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