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For what it's worth Eliwood looks a hell of a lot like Roy cause he's his dad. (Also Eliwood winds up being not-quite-a-paladin and Roy needs a bullshit cheaty sword to be worth a poo poo, but, hey). FE7 was FE6's prequel. A small thing I didn't notice until I checked out some of the official art: kids will inherit dad's hair color.
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Bongo Bill posted:Rookie mistake. Roy's not in FE7; that is a prequel to the one he was in, which we never got. Not to say you shouldn't check it out, though. Another great thing about Awakening is it's killed the "are Marth and Roy in this game?" meme dead. Because yes, they both are. Right now even.
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Feb 8, 2013 16:31
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Yeah, I just about died laughing when I realized the first recruitable characters were Roy and Marth.
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Feb 8, 2013 16:47
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Watch me bang my head against a brick wall. Again. And again. And again. Turns out on chapter 3 of Lunatic+, the units start getting Aegis and Counter. http://www.twitch.tv/roguelike
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Nakar posted:Another great thing about Awakening is it's killed the "are Marth and Roy in this game?" meme dead. Because yes, they both are. Right now even.
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Feb 8, 2013 17:11
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Endorph posted:drat, now I want to pair them up in my next playthrough. I realize conversations would be silly but it'd still be nice if DLC characters could have supports, just without conversations. It's really hard to want to use the DLC characters given how effective supports are. Maybe if you were doing an intentionally more difficult run or something.
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Feb 8, 2013 17:13
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Yeah, I really wish they gave them generic supports or something, or at least let them support The Avatar.
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Sorry if this has been asked already, but regarding the non-story battles that pop up occasionally on the overworld: Is there a set point in the game for each one to appear, or are they reliant on the system clock? I had my system in sleep mode overnight, and when I opened it up this morning, another battle icon appeared right away.
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They pop up randomly. I think a lot of things can make them show up, but there's no 'set point' for it.
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, I just about died laughing when I realized the first recruitable characters were Roy and Marth. And the last Spotpass Paralogue recruitable character is Ike's great-great-great-great-grandson. Also, a bit old but Green Bean posted:The child characters in this game are amazing. Hello Inigo with Galeforce, Aether, Royal Weapon, and Lethality. Wait what? Male children only inherit Rightful King(Royal Weapon), and Inigo doesn't gain Lord/Great Lord so where the hell did Aether come from? 404GoonNotFound fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Feb 8, 2013 |
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Hooray, finally got my system. Gonna be murdering dudes as soon as I do all this system transfer stuff. A shame it's not as adorable as the Wii U system transfer animation.
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Quick note vets and newbies, promote somewhat earlier in this game then others. Do it on level 15 instead of twenty. Because Reclassing is both a thing and in order to abuse the skill system waiting around for five empty levels and having to get extra exp in top of that thanks to power creep for the skills that will make your character awesome is a bad idea. After I get Rally Spectrum I'm going to reclass into an Assassin so I can get lethality then reclass back into Grand Tactician after a few levels to abuse my magic stats.
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I sincerely hope that Nintendo replaces Marth with Lucina (oh god this is a terribly done spoiler, read it after Chapter 6 or so) in the next Smash Bros. Quick question: Does Chrom have to know his Lvl. 15 Great Lord skill before all that stuff in Chapter 11 so Lucina can inherit Aether or is there a different cut-out chapter/Paralogue?
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Calaveron posted:I sincerely hope that Nintendo replaces Marth with Lucina (oh god this is a terribly done spoiler, read it after Chapter 6 or so) in the next Smash Bros. For Chrom's children, the men get Royal Weapon and the women get Aether regardless of the skills Chrom has.
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So Cherche and Henry's support is adorable as gently caress. Well written too.
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My idea for the FE13 character in Smash was to have Chrom and the Tactician working together Ice Climbers style. Only you can switch between them.
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Feb 8, 2013 18:28
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Is anybody going to be doing a LP of this game? I really can't wait until April to play 
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Miftan posted:Is anybody going to be doing a LP of this game? I really can't wait until April to play Forum rules prevent anyone from LPing this game until May 4.
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Miftan posted:Is anybody going to be doing a LP of this game? I really can't wait until April to play Even if they were, three month rule says we can't until May. And no, I'm not going to be the one to do it, despite what everyone seems to assume.
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Endorph posted:My idea for the FE13 character in Smash was to have Chrom and the Tactician working together Ice Climbers style. Only you can switch between them. This is the best idea. They are Paired Up! hahaha. This game makes me really excited for a second power-gaming play through. I'm just loving the first one for story and seeing all the supports (as well as getting used to FE playstyle again) but man to make some super broken chars is going to be so much fun 
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Artix74 posted:Even if they were, three month rule says we can't until May. And no, I'm not going to be the one to do it, despite what everyone seems to assume. Roguelike is already tackling Lunatic+ and I'm sure Cheetah[numbers] has probably cleared it in the Japanese version so maybe one of them will be up for it.
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Paralogue 17. Avatar died to the literal last enemy because she unluckily killed the two silver lance-wielding enemies who attacked her, resulting in getting slammed by silver lances four times. Goddammit, Cordelia, why did you Dual Strike the one who could have lived. 
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Undead Unicorn posted:Quick note vets and newbies, promote somewhat earlier in this game then others. Do it on level 15 instead of twenty. Because Reclassing is both a thing and in order to abuse the skill system waiting around for five empty levels and having to get extra exp in top of that thanks to power creep for the skills that will make your character awesome is a bad idea. Grandmaster isn't that great of a class once you have all of the (admittedly fantastic) skills. Dark Knight and Flier give superior movement and Sorcerer has access to the ridiculously broken dark magic tomes. Lethality is also pretty weak, since the activation is so low and Avatar doesn't have problems killing things. If you want a damage boosting skill just use Ignis or maybe Luna or just go Sage for Tomefaire. Pass is pretty fantastic though, so it's not a terrible idea to go Assassin for a bit if you don't mind losing your best weapon type.
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So on that note, what class are people keeping their Avatars in? After you've gotten all your skills do you go back to Grandmaster so you can use swords and tomes again? Just going with some straight magic or phys class?
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ChiTownEddie posted:So on that note, what class are people keeping their Avatars in? After you've gotten all your skills do you go back to Grandmaster so you can use swords and tomes again? Just going with some straight magic or phys class? I've just been sticking with Sorcerer. I've gotten much more use out of magic with my Avatar than I have with swords- mostly because there's a ton of characters I've got that are good and swordy but all my magic users tend to die- but I did make STR my bad stat and MGC my best. So that's probably gonna vary for most people.
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WrightOfWay posted:Grandmaster isn't that great of a class once you have all of the (admittedly fantastic) skills. Dark Knight and Flier give superior movement and Sorcerer has access to the ridiculously broken dark magic tomes. Lethality is also pretty weak, since the activation is so low and Avatar doesn't have problems killing things. If you want a damage boosting skill just use Ignis or maybe Luna or just go Sage for Tomefaire. Pass is pretty fantastic though, so it's not a terrible idea to go Assassin for a bit if you don't mind losing your best weapon type. Grandmaster actually has excellent caps (40 across the board except for Luck which is 45 for the Avatar, plus or minus customization adjustments). Dark Flier has a lovely defense cap, Sorcerer can only use tomes which limits you a lot, and Assassin has lovely defense AND resistance caps. Dark Knight is extremely good, though: slightly worse Strength and Resistance caps for slightly better Magic and Defense caps (still a -1 net over Grandmaster though) and can use both swords and tomes. Dark Knight is probably the best "final" class for most characters who can take it. Mobile, versatile equipment, balanced stat growths, good caps across the board, only weak to one effective weapon type (except for Nowi/Nah as Dark Knights of course).
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I had my avatar in Dark Knight. Lots of move, good defenses, and still uses swords and tomes.
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Lotish posted:Roguelike is already tackling Lunatic+ and I'm sure Cheetah[numbers] has probably cleared it in the Japanese version so maybe one of them will be up for it. See the problem with this is I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars getting the recording hardware for my 3DS.
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Zurai posted:Grandmaster actually has excellent caps (40 across the board except for Luck which is 45 for the Avatar, plus or minus customization adjustments). Dark Flier has a lovely defense cap, Sorcerer can only use tomes which limits you a lot, and Assassin has lovely defense AND resistance caps. Dark Knight is extremely good, though: slightly worse Strength and Resistance caps for slightly better Magic and Defense caps (still a -1 net over Grandmaster though) and can use both swords and tomes. Sorcerers don't need a second weapon type unless you are playing Lunatic+ and have to deal with Aegis+. Nosferatu and Waste or Ruin are all you need for the regular game.
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Zurai posted:Grandmaster actually has excellent caps (40 across the board except for Luck which is 45 for the Avatar, plus or minus customization adjustments). Dark Flier has a lovely defense cap, Sorcerer can only use tomes which limits you a lot, and Assassin has lovely defense AND resistance caps. Dark Knight is extremely good, though: slightly worse Strength and Resistance caps for slightly better Magic and Defense caps (still a -1 net over Grandmaster though) and can use both swords and tomes. This ignores that Sorcerer can use Dark Tombs while the Avatar's other classes can't. Of course if/when you get the ability to use Dark Tombs with other classes that stops being an issue but until then Sorcerer is a huge deal (and will always be for most characters.) Lunatic+ seems to require more variation but that's more than just a sorcerer problem.
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Wait until the SpotPass where you can recruit what's-her-name comes out, marry her, pass on Shadowgift to Morgan,  It's kind of a shame you can't get a Morgan with Shadowgift and the Demon Fighter class because then you could have tricked out swords, axes, and dark tomes on one brutal-rear end motherfucker. sword_man.gif fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Feb 8, 2013 |
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I finally got around to starting this game and it's fun, but really easy. I'm playing on normal, does it get substantially harder as it goes on? Also I have had several level ups where all or almost all of the character's stats went up... I remember someone saying the growths were higher but are they really that high? Because drat.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:I finally got around to starting this game and it's fun, but really easy. I'm playing on normal, does it get substantially harder as it goes on? Things get much harder later, especially the kid-related paralogues. I always have to go level up a bunch before tackling those whenever they appear. But you're going to want to play on a higher difficulty level, either way, once you've learned how stuff works and who does what. As for your growths, you're getting lucky, and that luck won't last forever!
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Normal mode is really easy mode in disguise, you should try Hard.
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I want to say I've heard Normal starts to step it up around Chapter 7? Lots of folks are starting on Hard because it's more in line with the challenge they're used to in earlier, less forgiving FEs. And yeah growths seem to hover in the 40 - 50 range for any character that needs that stat to exceed at their role.
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Lotish posted:I want to say I've heard Normal starts to step it up around Chapter 7? Lots of folks are starting on Hard because it's more in line with the challenge they're used to in earlier, less forgiving FEs.
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So my Morgan has literally maxed all of his (unpromoted) stats. He's working his way up through barbarian right now since I'm almost completely out of cash and despoil + royal weapon does wonders for your money supply. But yeah. Seeing lots of empty levelups at the moment.
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