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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Calling it now: Courtney Love will, somehow, be responsible for Sonia's death. Considering her affinity for olds pop culture I can see how CourtneycLove might blow her away
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Hmm, Matsuda sure is acting strange, what with his reaction to hearing Junko's name and the sandbox memory.  He's got some relation to Junko and SHSL Despair doesn't he, and that appointment is probably with Junko or some other member of SHSL Despair. After all, his being more concerned about Ryouko's possible relation to Junko than the possiblity of a dead body, along with convincing Ryouko to distrust her notebook, is highly suspicious.
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Feb 14, 2013 21:53
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RefinedUndefined posted:Hmm, Matsuda sure is acting strange, what with his reaction to hearing Junko's name and the sandbox memory. Well he is charged by the Steering Committee to hunt down the perpetrator of the Worst Most Despairing etc. etc. Incident, I forget if Junko was brought up at the time or not.
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Feb 14, 2013 22:09
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She wasn't, and I imagine that, at the very least, Headmaster Kirigiri was never aware of her involvement with any of the despair stuff if he asked her to stay in the locked-up school to help inspire hope.
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Feb 14, 2013 22:15
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Matsuda, what is your damage, sheesh. DR0 continues to be really strange it seems. And it doesn't really allow for as substantial speculation as DR2 does. As I was reading I was wondering whether there would turn out to be hints that Matsuda would be our mysterious-even-to-Junko corpse-mover. It does sound like he has some substantial connection to the case at least. I wonder who the other student in his care is (maybe Junko?).
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Falls Down Stairs posted:Matsuda, what is your damage, sheesh. Maybe you shouldn't have told him someone else kicked your sandcastle down, Ryouko! Then he'd believe that you love him! I feel like the trivial answer is that his other patient is Junko, except that he said "that girl has nothing to do with either me or you," as if he was in denial. Considering that Ryouko is amnesiac, I can't imagine convincing her that Junko has nothing to do with anything is important, especially considering she has no idea who Junko is. I imagine that he was convincing himself. So, I would find it kind of weird if his patient was Junko after he said he had nothing to do with her. There is, of course, the possibility that he had to calm Ryouko down somehow and he had to spit words, but it feels too self-directed. Maybe he's going to see Syo, considering she's the only other relevant mental health patient we know about. Twiddy fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Feb 14, 2013 |
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Feb 14, 2013 22:59
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Maybe they found the guy who killed all those students? Maybe the Committee wants Matsuda to see if the guy can be controlled or something. Wait, wasn't there one student who survived(besides the culprit) but was seriously hurt? That is one who probbaly needs some mental help too.
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Twiddy posted:He doesn't believe that she loves him even though she has no memory and tells it to him repeatedly. I can only guess that she said or did something really nasty to him in the past, and he can't trust her feelings because she forgot about it. I was thinking that it's the other way around, that Matsuda did something terrible to Ryouko, and he couldn't forgive himself enough to open up to her. This is largely because I believe her memory loss is linked to the memory alteration in both of the games, though. Thinking about it now, it could go either way. She might even have forgotten about Matsuda saying he loves her in the past. 
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Feb 14, 2013 23:17
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Isn't the obvious answer that Matsuda is the reason she can't remember anything? Working on a sculpture for a month definitely requires a working memory.
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DeathBySpoon posted:Isn't the obvious answer that Matsuda is the reason she can't remember anything? Working on a sculpture for a month definitely requires a working memory. How about Ryouko simply didn't have her current condition back then.
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I think the patient Matsuda is going to tend is the student who survives the slaughter and is still in coma. By the way, I expected the culprit for kicking down the sand castle to be Junko before Matsuda's reveal. That would surely induce despair to Ryouko.
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Feb 15, 2013 02:52
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The thing that made me smile in this Zero update was Matsuda's reaction to Ryoko mentioning Junko Enoshima's name. Not because he recognizes the name, but because it signifies that despite everything he's done to tamper with Ryoko's mind, his tying her up in bed, his having no idea what happened to lead up to that and knowing Ryoko won't be able to adequately explain herself, etc., he hasn't so much as taken a single peek inside Ryoko Otonashi's Memory Notebook. That shows a lot of respect.
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Hokuto posted:The thing that made me smile in this Zero update was Matsuda's reaction to Ryoko mentioning Junko Enoshima's name. Not because he recognizes the name, but because it signifies that despite everything he's done to tamper with Ryoko's mind, his tying her up in bed, his having no idea what happened to lead up to that and knowing Ryoko won't be able to adequately explain herself, etc., he hasn't so much as taken a single peek inside Ryoko Otonashi's Memory Notebook. That shows a lot of respect. Yeah, that was something that seemed odd to me as well. Not only did he not bother to go through her journal while she was unconscious, but after she woke up and read the entry, he tries to convince her that she made it all up. I would think it would have been far easier to convince her to let him hold on to the journal for a bit to go over it so and find out what she was up to last night, then remove whatever he felt she was better off not knowing and letting her condition take care of the rest.
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That sounds more like something the Steering Committee would do if they had any say in it. Matsuda is clearly trying to just let her function normally as much as he reasonably can in the circumstances without dismissing her side the way everybody else does.
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Feb 15, 2013 03:32
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This is starting to get comical. "We don't know who SHSL despair is", and yet every time Junko's name is mentioned any serious-minded student who overhears becomes terrified. This leads to one of two possible conclusions: Either Naegi et al were just as batshit insane as Junko when viewed over the course of their high school careers; or the administrators knew it was Junko and locked up Yamada and Chihiro so that she'd have someone to torture and kill during her long imprisonment. It definitely makes the stated goal of "We want to keep hope alive in the world by
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Jeek posted:I think the patient Matsuda is going to tend is the student who survives the slaughter and is still in coma. When Ryouko revealed that she had kicked down her own sculpture, it sounded a lot like Junko did in the first chapter. Could she have done it to intentionally induce despair? That would explain the smile. Maybe Ryouko used to be a SHSL Despair before her amnesia.
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Tender Child Loins posted:When Ryouko revealed that she had kicked down her own sculpture, it sounded a lot like Junko did in the first chapter. Could she have done it to intentionally induce despair? That would explain the smile. Maybe Ryouko used to be a SHSL Despair before her amnesia. Sounds more like she did it to get a reaction out of Matsuda, to see how much he cared about her or something. Or maybe she already knew and just wanted to experience his affection. It sounds like something a kid with an insanely good ability to read people and predict their rections would do. I kind of wonder why Ryouko isn't more hosed up personality-wise if she's been good at manipulating people for so long. Power corrupts etc.
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I just realized how little we can trust anything in Zero. Our main point of view is a Super High School Level Amnesiac whose only source of memories is a notebook - which can be written in by anyone whenever she leaves it alone. How much of Ryouko's narration can we actually trust? That said, I'm not entirely sure whether a huge revelation about large chunks of the story being falsified would be the best or worst thing.
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NewsSwissArmyKnife posted:I just realized how little we can trust anything in Zero. Now that you mention it, I'm sure this is the reason that Ryouko's parts are told from an immediate first-person point of view. If there were a framing narrative where she was actually narrating it to us, or even if we saw things from a third person view, we'd constantly be doubting what whatever occurred in any of her scenes actually happened. But since her point of view is our point of view, we take her scenes as reliable since it seems as good as if we had direct access to her senses and perceptions in the here-and-now. (So given that, I doubt she's as potentially unreliable a narrator as you're saying- that kind of requires a framing narrative where the character is actually telling the story to someone.) Another thing is that if our POV leaves her for any significant amount of time, important things may happen to her in the meanwhile and we may not know it.
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Feb 15, 2013 07:48
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I do quite like how what she just said to Matsuda (That at this point, she just wants to forget him too) has actually hit him. It broke his facade, cause I was starting to get sick of his aloof behaviour, and that it's at least starting to ease up is nice.
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Spike-Chunsoft just announced a %50-off sale for the iOS and Android versions of Dangan Ronpa for the next two weeks. The entire game is now a mere 1000 yen. In addition, there's a new bug-fix version with better camera control. Getting the game is, as always, a bit of a hassle and involved getting a Japanese iTunes account and buying a gift card on iOS (there's a 1000 yen card, though, which means you don't have to buy extra credit now), or using special software to see Japanese apps at all on Android. And yet, if you want to support the Dangan Ronpa franchise now's the perfect time to do so.
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Any word yet on if the sequel's coming to iOS? I started Googling, but seemed like it could actually get into spoiler territory.
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slowbeef posted:Any word yet on if the sequel's coming to iOS? I started Googling, but seemed like it could actually get into spoiler territory. Not yet. Don't worry -- I will update the thread whenever that is announced.
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Feb 15, 2013 19:27
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My plain black bag needed a redesign. Made with rags, textile glue and shaky hands.
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loquacius posted:Sonia Nevermind Will Have Her Revenge On Hope's Peak Academy Aw, that would have been a good thread title.
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tiistai posted:My plain black bag needed a redesign. This is so awesome! Also I want to buy Dangan Ronpa for Android, but when I tried playing the first chapter, I couldn't play anything past Space Journey. The screen was all black. Hoping the bug fixes solve this...
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saihate posted:Also I want to buy Dangan Ronpa for Android, but when I tried playing the first chapter, I couldn't play anything past Space Journey. The screen was all black. Hoping the bug fixes solve this...  .I want to buy it too, but I'm too low on scratch right now to get it, I've been using Oren's DR1 Let's Play thread as a kind of guide/translator however. On another thing, the high resolution mode makes the characters' cardboard cut-outs in the world look pretty crisp however their portraits aren't as clean looking. My best answer to you would be to pick up BlueStacks so you can run Dangan Ronpa Android on your PC, because your phone might not be strong enough to work with it.
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I've also never been able to get Danganronpa on Android to work well. It just has no sound, except during movies. Whatever format the sound files are in just isn't recognized, or something. Got it from the Android Market after using MarketEnabler, which requires root. Has anyone else tried and had a similar problem? Using a Galaxy S2.
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Should probably take specific "How do I play Dangan Ronpa 1" questions to the Dangan Ronpa 1 thread.
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tiistai posted:My plain black bag needed a redesign.  You probably get detained by the TSA if you attempt to go on the plane with that bag because you know DESPAIR!
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Lamhirh posted:I've also never been able to get Danganronpa on Android to work well. It just has no sound, except during movies. Whatever format the sound files are in just isn't recognized, or something. Got it from the Android Market after using MarketEnabler, which requires root. Has anyone else tried and had a similar problem? Using a Galaxy S2. I'll stop talking about this in this thread, but wanted to let you know I did the exact same thing and I have the same phone.
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tiistai posted:My plain black bag needed a redesign. This look great, I'm a little jealous of your ingenuity to attempt this hehe Now it just needs pins of all the characters 
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I just thought of something: what if nobody is supposed to get murdered in DR2 and the entire point of the game is to keep people from killing each other?
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I just thought of something: what if nobody is supposed to get murdered in DR2 and the entire point of the game is to keep people from killing each other? Then the game wouldn't be as entertaining, since we're probably all here for the murders, and I don't just mean who died or who kills.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I just thought of something: what if nobody is supposed to get murdered in DR2 and the entire point of the game is to keep people from killing each other? I would believe that this is what the crew was initially brought to the island for by Usami and whomever is in control of her.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I just thought of something: what if nobody is supposed to get murdered in DR2 and the entire point of the game is to keep people from killing each other? Yes no murders in a murder mystery game 
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The Devil Tesla posted:Yes no murders in a murder mystery game They'll never see it coming.
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The last three chapters of the first game had no murders, just two suicides and an attempted murder.
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creepyslime posted:This look great, I'm a little jealous of your ingenuity to attempt this hehe Pins of all the characters, hmm? Good thing I was already starting with a project like that. I just wish I had a black bag I could turn into a monobag as well, it turned out fantastic Tiistai. It's too bad that Usami's plan got foiled by Monobear's arrival (although more exciting for us!). It'll be interesting to see who the other party is that's controlling her, as I'm really looking forward to that particular reveal. Then again, I wonder who's got their hands behind Monobear this time.
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The Devil Tesla posted:Yes no murders in a murder mystery game Who says it's a murder mystery and not just a pseudo dating sim, hmmm? 
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