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mitztronic
Jun 17, 2005

mixcloud.com/mitztronic

I always cringe when I see people vertically stack monitors because it will destroy your neck in about a week. You are NOT supposed to have to tilt your head back at all while on a computer.

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Splinter
Jul 4, 2003
Cowabunga!
Are there any decent docks for a 15" early 2011 MBP that are designed for using the laptop screen as a second monitor? The Henge docks in the OP look nice, but it looks like they only work if the laptop is kept closed. They do have a horizontal dock available for pre-order, but it seems it's only compatible with the new retina MBPs.

Godface
Jun 8, 2007

Awkward Social Situations Established Since 1988
My 13" macbook from late 2008 (it's a macbook, but in a pro metal body) just started making a grinding / buzzing noise when I pulled out the charger cable and it won't stop.

Here it is.

It's working fine, I'm typing on it right now. But the noise is very unnerving. I'm backing up everything, just in case.

EDIT. It seems to actually be the fan that is causing the noise. I messed around with a fan speed app and the right fan is stuck at -1 RPM which I guess means it's stuck and not spinning.



I'm gonna open it up and take a look...

Godface fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Feb 22, 2013

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Godface posted:

My 13" macbook from late 2008 (it's a macbook, but in a pro metal body) just started making a grinding / buzzing noise when I pulled out the charger cable and it won't stop.

It's working fine, I'm typing on it right now. But the noise is very unnerving. I'm backing up everything, just in case.

I think it's coming from the harddrive, not the fan. Anybody have this situation before? I've had this macbook for four and half years and it gets a lot of heavy use, this is the first time it's done something unusual.

Unplug the hard drive and see if the noise goes away.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Splinter posted:

Are there any decent docks for a 15" early 2011 MBP that are designed for using the laptop screen as a second monitor? The Henge docks in the OP look nice, but it looks like they only work if the laptop is kept closed. They do have a horizontal dock available for pre-order, but it seems it's only compatible with the new retina MBPs.

There are no good docks since the Mac doesn't have a docking port.

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.
My Mac Mini is being weird. Kernel panic twice in two days, and sometimes there are random graphical artifacts like black squares in random places. When I use expose, those black squares move with the rest of the windows to retain the same position. For example, if a 1x1" black square appears in the top left corner of my left monitor, when I use expose, there's a scaled-down version of that black square over the top left corner of the wallpaper in the expose interface.

Base model mid-2011 mini
2.3ghz Core i5
8gb ram (upgraded from 2gb)
128gb Crucial M4 with a working firmware (upgraded from the 500gb hdd)
OSX 10.8.2
Dell U2311
Dell U2312
Apple Wireless Keyboard
Logitech m500 or something

Kernel panic #1:
code:
Thu Feb 21 13:28:53 2013
panic(cpu 3 caller 0xffffff8000843d8e): "a freed zone element has been modified in zone: kalloc.16"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-2050.18.24/osfmk/kern/zalloc.c:219
Backtrace (CPU 3), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff80f0943ad0 : 0xffffff800081d626 
0xffffff80f0943b40 : 0xffffff8000843d8e 
0xffffff80f0943b80 : 0xffffff80008435d2 
0xffffff80f0943c60 : 0xffffff80008245ed 
0xffffff80f0943c90 : 0xffffff8000c038b1 
0xffffff80f0943cb0 : 0xffffff8000c039f2 
0xffffff80f0943ce0 : 0xffffff8000c01eb3 
0xffffff80f0943d30 : 0xffffff8000c03ca3 
0xffffff80f0943d60 : 0xffffff8000bf20a1 
0xffffff80f0943da0 : 0xffffff8000bf20a1 
0xffffff80f0943de0 : 0xffffff8000c27c23 
0xffffff80f0943e00 : 0xffffff8000c321e1 
0xffffff80f0943e10 : 0xffffff8000c63b28 
0xffffff80f0943e50 : 0xffffff8000893f72 
0xffffff80f0943e80 : 0xffffff8000820aed 
0xffffff80f0943eb0 : 0xffffff8000810448 
0xffffff80f0943f00 : 0xffffff800081961b 
0xffffff80f0943f70 : 0xffffff80008a5b16 
0xffffff80f0943fb0 : 0xffffff80008ced53 

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: UserEventAgent

Mac OS version:
12C60

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 12.2.0: Sat Aug 25 00:48:52 PDT 2012; root:xnu-2050.18.24~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 69A5853F-375A-3EF4-9247-478FD0247333
Kernel slide:     0x0000000000600000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff8000800000
System model name: Macmini5,1 (Mac-8ED6AF5B48C039E1)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 3872625371854088
last loaded kext at 3872625321463404: com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver	3.5.1 (addr 0xffffff7f82851000, size 282624)
last unloaded kext at 3830799446622153: com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver	3.5.1 (addr 0xffffff7f82806000, size 282624)
loaded kexts:
com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver	3.5.1
com.radiosilenceapp.nke.PrivateEye	1
at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch	2.5.3
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDC	4.1.22
com.apple.filesystems.smbfs	1.8
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor	1.9.5d0
com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC	1.60
com.apple.filesystems.autofs	3.0
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager	4.0.9f33
com.apple.driver.ApplePlatformEnabler	2.0.5d4
com.apple.driver.AGPM	100.12.69
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver	122
com.apple.driver.AppleHDA	2.3.1f2
com.apple.driver.AppleSMCPDRC	1.0.0
com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet	1.0.0d1
com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X	7.0.0
com.apple.driver.ApplePolicyControl	3.2.11
com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin	1.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver	2.3.1f2
com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetoothHCIControllerUSBTransport	4.0.9f33
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient	3.5.10
com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl	1.0.33
com.apple.driver.AppleLPC	1.6.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHD3000Graphics	8.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelSNBGraphicsFB	8.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIRController	320.15
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless	1.0.0d1
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib	1.0.0d1
com.apple.BootCache	34
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter	404
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage	2.2.2
com.apple.driver.AppleSDXC	1.2.2
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI	4.9.6
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub	5.2.5
com.apple.iokit.AppleBCM5701Ethernet	3.2.5b3
com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4331	602.15.22
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort	2.4.1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI	5.4.0
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM	1.6.1
com.apple.driver.AppleRTC	1.5
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons	1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET	1.7
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS	1.9
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC	1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC	1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient	196.0.0
com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall	4.0.39
com.apple.security.quarantine	2
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement	196.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleBluetoothHIDKeyboard	165.5
com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver	4.0.9f33
com.apple.driver.AppleHIDKeyboard	165.5
com.apple.kext.triggers	1.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily	10.0.6
com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib	2.3.1f2
com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily	1.8.9fc10
com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib	1.6
com.apple.iokit.IOSurface	86.0.3
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily	4.0.9f33
com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl	3.2.11
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginLegacy	1.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI	1.0.10d0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMC	3.1.4d2
com.apple.iokit.AppleBluetoothHCIControllerUSBTransport	4.0.9f33
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP	2.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController	2.3.1f2
com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily	2.3.1f2
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController	1.0.10d0
com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily	5.2.0d16
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport	2.3.5
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily	2.3.5
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPOutAdapter	1.8.5
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPInAdapter	1.8.5
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltDPAdapterFamily	1.8.5
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltPCIDownAdapter	1.2.5
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice	3.5.1
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass	3.5.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily	3.5.1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub	5.2.5
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver	5.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite	5.2.5
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily	4.5.5
com.apple.driver.AppleThunderboltNHI	1.6.0
com.apple.iokit.IOThunderboltFamily	2.1.1
com.apple.iokit.IOEthernetAVBController	1.0.2b1
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient	5.2.5
com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family	500.15
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily	3.0
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily	2.2.1
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily	5.4.0
com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime	1.6.1
com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily	1.8.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily	1.1
com.apple.security.sandbox	220
com.apple.kext.AppleMatch	1.0.0d1
com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet	7
com.apple.driver.DiskImages	344
com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily	1.8
com.apple.driver.AppleKeyStore	28.21
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform	1.6
com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily	2.7.2
com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily	1.4
com.apple.kec.corecrypto	1.0
 
kernel panic #2:
code:
Fri Feb 22 14:03:08 2013
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff8020443d8e): "a freed zone element has been modified in zone: kalloc.16"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-2050.18.24/osfmk/kern/zalloc.c:219
Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff802ce73d20 : 0xffffff802041d626 
0xffffff802ce73d90 : 0xffffff8020443d8e 
0xffffff802ce73dd0 : 0xffffff80204435d2 
0xffffff802ce73eb0 : 0xffffff80204245ed 
0xffffff802ce73ee0 : 0xffffff8020402c2c 
0xffffff802ce73f00 : 0xffffff8020406f81 
0xffffff802ce73f20 : 0xffffff8020479564 
0xffffff802ce73f60 : 0xffffff80204859b8 
0xffffff802ce73fb0 : 0xffffff80204b26b7 

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Mac OS version:
12C60

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 12.2.0: Sat Aug 25 00:48:52 PDT 2012; root:xnu-2050.18.24~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 69A5853F-375A-3EF4-9247-478FD0247333
Kernel slide:     0x0000000020200000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff8020400000
System model name: Macmini5,1 (Mac-8ED6AF5B48C039E1)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 88295740144388
last loaded kext at 88126487492287: com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver	3.5.1 (addr 0xffffff7fa2127000, size 282624)
last unloaded kext at 88242333001640: com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDC	4.1.22 (addr 0xffffff7fa2124000, size 12288)
loaded kexts:
com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver	3.5.1
at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch	2.5.3
com.apple.filesystems.smbfs	1.8
com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC	1.60
com.apple.filesystems.autofs	3.0
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor	1.9.5d0
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager	4.0.9f33
com.apple.driver.ApplePlatformEnabler	2.0.5d4
com.apple.driver.AGPM	100.12.69
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver	122
com.apple.driver.AppleHDA	2.3.1f2
com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet	1.0.0d1
com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver	2.3.1f2
com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X	7.0.0
com.apple.driver.ApplePolicyControl	3.2.11
com.apple.driver.AppleSMCPDRC	1.0.0
com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetoothHCIControllerUSBTransport	4.0.9f33
com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient	3.5.10
com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl	1.0.33
com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin	1.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleLPC	1.6.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelHD3000Graphics	8.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelSNBGraphicsFB	8.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleIRController	320.15
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless	1.0.0d1
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib	1.0.0d1
com.apple.BootCache	34
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter	404
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage	2.2.2
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub	5.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI	4.9.6
com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4331	602.15.22
com.apple.iokit.AppleBCM5701Ethernet	3.2.5b3
com.apple.driver.AppleSDXC	1.2.2
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort	2.4.1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI	5.4.0
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM	1.6.1
com.apple.driver.AppleRTC	1.5
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons	1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET	1.7
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS	1.9
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC	1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC	1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient	196.0.0
com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall	4.0.39
com.apple.security.quarantine	2
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement	196.0.0
com.apple.driver.AppleBluetoothHIDKeyboard	165.5
com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver	4.0.9f33
com.apple.driver.AppleHIDKeyboard	165.5
com.apple.kext.triggers	1.0
com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily	10.0.6
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com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily	1.8.9fc10
com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib	1.6
com.apple.iokit.IOSurface	86.0.3
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily	4.0.9f33
com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl	3.2.11
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP	2.2.5
com.apple.iokit.AppleBluetoothHCIControllerUSBTransport	4.0.9f33
com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController	2.3.1f2
com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily	2.3.1f2
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController	1.0.10d0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI	1.0.10d0
com.apple.driver.AppleSMC	3.1.4d2
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com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily	5.2.0d16
com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport	2.3.5
com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily	2.3.5
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Wild EEPROM fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Feb 23, 2013

japtor
Oct 28, 2005
No clue if it has anything to do with it, but maybe start by updating or removing Logitech Control Center. Going by MacUpdate's page 3.6 added support for 10.7, while you appear to be using 3.5.1 on 10.8.

Otherwise I guess I'd boot into hardware test mode.

Pakistani Brad Pitt
Nov 28, 2004

Not as taciturn, but still terribly powerful...



I've had a hard time Googling this, so I thought I'd try here. Basically in the last month or so, my Macbook Air (late 2010) has started lagging on the response time of the function keys (the ones I notice are the brightness and volume/mute keys) after waking up from being closed. Like I'll open it in a dark room at night, furiously mash the F1 key to lower the brightness, but no response. Then maybe 10+ seconds later, the little square brightness graphic will display and basically "catch up" on all of my button presses. From then on it works fine, so it's not a major annoyance, but I can't figure out what has changed to make it start behaving so laggy.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
Did you reset the NVRAM and SMC?

Audio Bitch
Dec 8, 2007
I have a mid-2009 13" MPB with a broken power adaptor. Is there a goon-approved third-party 60W magsafe adaptor available in the UK, preferably significantly cheaper than the £65 official one? Not so fussed about amazing quality - if it works and doesn't set on fire, those would be the most important qualities really.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Audio Bitch posted:

I have a mid-2009 13" MPB with a broken power adaptor. Is there a goon-approved third-party 60W magsafe adaptor available in the UK, preferably significantly cheaper than the £65 official one? Not so fussed about amazing quality - if it works and doesn't set on fire, those would be the most important qualities really.

If broken means "the cable is frayed, or broken at the MagSafe connector" then you may have some luck asking for a replacement at an apple store. Regardless of AppleCare etc.

Failing that, try 2nd hand. I know I've given away a couple of old ones before. eBay.

tarepanda
Mar 26, 2011

Living the Dream
I've been thinking about grabbing 6th gen nano and one of those watch conversion kits -- has anyone done it before? Are there any kits to avoid or is the whole idea just retarded?

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.

japtor posted:

No clue if it has anything to do with it, but maybe start by updating or removing Logitech Control Center. Going by MacUpdate's page 3.6 added support for 10.7, while you appear to be using 3.5.1 on 10.8.

Otherwise I guess I'd boot into hardware test mode.

Updated it, hasn't artifacted or kernel panicked since, but I have no idea if it will or not soon :\

Haggins
Jul 1, 2004

wooger posted:

If broken means "the cable is frayed, or broken at the MagSafe connector" then you may have some luck asking for a replacement at an apple store. Regardless of AppleCare etc.

Failing that, try 2nd hand. I know I've given away a couple of old ones before. eBay.

I had Apple just give me one out of warranty when I had a broken one. I brought in my broken one and just asked about how I replace it. YMMV

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

tarepanda posted:

I've been thinking about grabbing 6th gen nano and one of those watch conversion kits -- has anyone done it before? Are there any kits to avoid or is the whole idea just retarded?
Not really a Mac question but whatever. One possible issue with those I think is that the nano's screen doesn't stay on continuously does it? If so it'd seem like it'd be kind of crappy as a watch cause you couldn't just glance at it.

Wild EEPROM posted:

Updated it, hasn't artifacted or kernel panicked since, but I have no idea if it will or not soon :\
Tried the hardware test yet?

Big City Drinkin
Oct 9, 2007

A very good

Fallen Rib
So I'm currently trying to figure out what to do about my computing situation. I have a mid-2007 Macbook Pro (2.2Ghz Core II Duo, 2 gigs of ram, Leopard originally and now running Lion) and performance is terrible. I basically have to close everything and restart the computer every 4 hours or so when things get unusably slow:



This is with my normal, relatively light usage (Chrome, Mail, MS Word, Acrobat), and I performed a clean OS install about a month ago. My question: I'm considering dropping $300 or so to get my computer in "decent" shape again (4 gig memory upgrade, SSD, new battery) in the hopes that I can get another non-frustrating 2 years or so out of it, but is this a good plan? Is there any good reason why I shouldn't just bite the bullet and get a 13 MBA? I know this is a super general question, but I'd appreciate any advice.

NOTinuyasha
Oct 17, 2006

 
The Great Twist
Upgrade it to 6GB, upgrade to Mountain Lion, be sure to get a non-poo poo SSD, and you'll have a whole new computer.

Frown Town
Sep 10, 2009

does not even lift
SWAG SWAG SWAG YOLO

Big City Drinkin posted:

So I'm currently trying to figure out what to do about my computing situation. I have a mid-2007 Macbook Pro (2.2Ghz Core II Duo, 2 gigs of ram, Leopard originally and now running Lion) and performance is terrible. I basically have to close everything and restart the computer every 4 hours or so when things get unusably slow:



This is with my normal, relatively light usage (Chrome, Mail, MS Word, Acrobat), and I performed a clean OS install about a month ago. My question: I'm considering dropping $300 or so to get my computer in "decent" shape again (4 gig memory upgrade, SSD, new battery) in the hopes that I can get another non-frustrating 2 years or so out of it, but is this a good plan? Is there any good reason why I shouldn't just bite the bullet and get a 13 MBA? I know this is a super general question, but I'd appreciate any advice.

I actually just have the exact same spec computer, bought in like June 2007- I'm ebaying mine. It's got some weird flickering display issues, but those go away after 10 minutes and don't effect external monitors. It's actually running surprisingly smoothly after I reformatted the HD and did a fresh install of Mountain Lion.

I said gently caress it and bought a 15" retina refurbished though (like $1.8k after tax, and they sent me double the ram at 16gb rather than the advertised 8gn), and I'm ebaying this to offset the cost a little bit. It was worth it to me to just buy a new machine altogether though, since I'm going to be doing a lot of photoshop/some 3D modeling in Maya.

Spagghentleman
Jan 1, 2013

NOTinuyasha posted:

Upgrade it to 6GB, upgrade to Mountain Lion, be sure to get a non-poo poo SSD, and you'll have a whole new computer.

I also have the mid 2007 model and Mountain Lion compatability cuts off at 2008 models, so thats a no go (edit: apparently you can?)

Big City Drinkin
Oct 9, 2007

A very good

Fallen Rib

JustAwful posted:

I also have the mid 2007 model and Mountain Lion compatability cuts off at 2008 models, so thats a no go (edit: apparently you can?)

I think you can, but it's almost guaranteed that 10.9 won't support it, which seems like a general issue with trying to get an old computer to last into the foreseeable future.

Does anyone know if the SSDs sold at OWC are a good buy? I know there are faster ones on the market, but I'm limited without a SATA revision 3 computer.

Frown Town
Sep 10, 2009

does not even lift
SWAG SWAG SWAG YOLO

JustAwful posted:

I also have the mid 2007 model and Mountain Lion compatability cuts off at 2008 models, so thats a no go (edit: apparently you can?)

Yeah, the install definitely worked fine. I have a mid 2007 model and it's running really nicely.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Big City Drinkin posted:

Does anyone know if the SSDs sold at OWC are a good buy? I know there are faster ones on the market, but I'm limited without a SATA revision 3 computer.
They are good, if not expensive drives.

I'd put your machine on Craigslist for $400 and hope someone buys it 'because it's a Mac' and you accept any offer of at least $300

Combine that with your $300 in upgrade dollars and you can almost get a used 2011 13" Air or Pro.

Feral Bueller
Apr 23, 2004

Fun is important.
Nap Ghost

1997 posted:

Be prepared to pay the $1240 flat rate for accidental damage.

Or just get a mouse/trackpad.

I did something similar with my last MBP and it was fine other than the trackpad. I didn't have the $1200 to fork over, so I just used an external. Sub-optimal, but affordable.

Choadmaster
Oct 7, 2004

I don't care how snug they fit, you're nuts!

Big City Drinkin posted:

Does anyone know if the SSDs sold at OWC are a good buy? I know there are faster ones on the market, but I'm limited without a SATA revision 3 computer.

I've bought 5 of them (both the 3G and 6G ones) and they've all worked great.

Spagghentleman
Jan 1, 2013

Frown Town posted:

Yeah, the install definitely worked fine. I have a mid 2007 model and it's running really nicely.

Oh poo poo, mine's a regular MacBook, that's why it won't install. Pro's are supported back to mid 2007, the regular MacBook is only supported 2008 and up.

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012
15" Retina macbooks are appearing on the UK refurb store for ~£1400. :byodood:

But seriously, those 17 inchers are just sitting there with exorbitant price tags (In excess of 1500), do they honestly think they are going to move them by selling em for more than their more powerful counterparts?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Ocrassus posted:

15" Retina macbooks are appearing on the UK refurb store for ~£1400. :byodood:

But seriously, those 17 inchers are just sitting there with exorbitant price tags (In excess of 1500), do they honestly think they are going to move them by selling em for more than their more powerful counterparts?

Some people simply don't want the Retina Screen, or want to *upgrade*

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

Bob Morales posted:

Some people simply don't want the Retina Screen, or want to *upgrade*

Yes but the 2012 standard macbook pros are still cheaper than their 17 inch counterparts from 2 years ago, even with the refurb discounts on the latter and not the former...

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Ocrassus posted:

Yes but the 2012 standard macbook pros are still cheaper than their 17 inch counterparts from 2 years ago, even with the refurb discounts on the latter and not the former...

They aren't 17" though...

a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

Bob Morales posted:

They aren't 17" though...

But you're losing in excess of 600 pounds of value (Next gen processors, Faster RAM, Faster GPU with twice the VRAM, Faster HDD) because you want an extra 2 inches of screen real estate? You could buy a thunderbolt display for nearly as much. :psyduck:

EDIT : They have 83 models left by my count.

a neurotic ai fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Feb 25, 2013

Bamabalacha
Sep 18, 2006

Outta my way, ya dumb rah-rah!
Just bought the 2.4GHz 15" Retina MBP, transferring my data onto it from my Time Machine backup now :dance:

I'm upgrading from a mid-2009 13" MBP, so this should be a whole new world of computing. And it's just so pretty :allears:

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Ocrassus posted:

But you're losing in excess of 600 pounds of value (Next gen processors, Faster RAM, Faster GPU with twice the VRAM, Faster HDD) because you want an extra 2 inches of screen real estate? You could buy a thunderbolt display for nearly as much. :psyduck:

EDIT : They have 83 models left by my count.

You also can't carry a Thunderbolt Display with you. There's the 1920x1200 native resolution, expresscard slot, dual HD compatibility...

Plus you don't have to buy new laptop bags/sleeves to fit your 15" Retina, you don't have to worry about image persistence or getting the right manufacturer screen.

I'm not saying I'd choose a 17" cMBP over a 15" rMBP but can understand why someone would.

Splinter
Jul 4, 2003
Cowabunga!
Are there any thunderbolt (mini DP) to dual link DVI adapters that don't also require a USB port? If not, can the USB portion of that adapter be attached to a hub or does it have to have a port to itself?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Splinter posted:

Are there any thunderbolt (mini DP) to dual link DVI adapters that don't also require a USB port? If not, can the USB portion of that adapter be attached to a hub or does it have to have a port to itself?

It's an active converter so it needs power - it will run from a powered hub.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Bob Morales posted:

I'm not saying I'd choose a 17" cMBP over a 15" rMBP but can understand why someone would.

17" is also a pretty clunky form factor that defeats the main advantage of a laptop, I pretty much hate my bulky dell laptop as well even though it's only 15" screen.

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte

Ocrassus posted:

But you're losing in excess of 600 pounds of value (Next gen processors, Faster RAM, Faster GPU with twice the VRAM, Faster HDD) because you want an extra 2 inches of screen real estate? You could buy a thunderbolt display for nearly as much. :psyduck:

EDIT : They have 83 models left by my count.

Express Card :v:

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

etalian posted:

17" is also a pretty clunky form factor that defeats the main advantage of a laptop, I pretty much hate my bulky dell laptop as well even though it's only 15" screen.

Then again, my roommate went and blew $1400 on a 17-inch Asus monstrosity that can barely make it through two classes because "it plays games well."

Some people have some interesting ideas of what constitutes a laptop.

Butt Savage
Aug 23, 2007

Bob Morales posted:

They aren't 17" though...

And that's all there is to it with average people, really. If even after you've told them the pros and cons of 17" laptops in comparison to smaller ones, and they still decide that 17" is the better upgrade because they're fixated on having that nice, big screen, your job is done. Let them buy it and see how much they like it.

At least in my experience. :)

theSpokeyDokey
Jul 19, 2005
I have a MacBook Pro 15" with the 2.7 GHz i7 and nVidia GT 650M 1024. Currently plays Diablo 3 windowed on lowest settings at a reasonable temperature but I'd like something to jack the fans up a bit. Under a load it is usually running between 70-90*C and I'd like to take it down a bit. When I'm streaming it reaches 98*C.

I downloaded SMCfanControl and set it up but it won't keep the fan speeds I set for it and it doesn't appear to have options for my MBP to set temperature thresholds. Can anyone recommend a better fan control app or a version of SMCfanControl that works better?

Is it worth my time to take the battery out since I leave my MBP plugged in all the time (to conserve battery usable life and reduce temp)? Will a flat-head work on those weird triangular shaped screws?

Currently sitting the MBP on a Cooler Master U3 cooling pad as well with one fan centered on the bottom middle and the other two toward the exhaust vents on either side in similar positions to the internal fans. MBP is also residing inside the Speck snap on hardshell case.

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a neurotic ai
Mar 22, 2012

protobyss posted:

I have a MacBook Pro 15" with the 2.7 GHz i7 and nVidia GT 650M 1024. Currently plays Diablo 3 windowed on lowest settings at a reasonable temperature but I'd like something to jack the fans up a bit. Under a load it is usually running between 70-90*C and I'd like to take it down a bit. When I'm streaming it reaches 98*C.



I'm a bit confused by this, the 2012's 650M should be able to smash Diablo 3 at way above low settings.

I mean cor blimey if you're willing to run it on low why not just force the discrete GPU off and have the iHD4000 do the lifting?

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