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djw175
Apr 23, 2012

by zen death robot
Can anyone decipher this? It's too crazy for me to follow.

djw175 fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Mar 4, 2013

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Raiad
Feb 1, 2005

Without the law, there wouldn't be lawyers.


djw175 posted:

Can anyone decipher this? It's too crazy for me to follow.



Karl Marx is responsible for literally everything that's wrong with the world, but I'm guessing you got that much already. I tried to piece together one chain and my brain probably broke.

Hollywood and the media spread the concept of Multi-culturalism (i.e. accepting those goddamn __________(insert race/creed/culture here)). This is because of political correctness/cultural marxism (same thing I guess?) came about from the Frankfurt School, which produced in particular Herbert Marcuse. And this is all because of Karl Marx.

I imagine the rest of the lines follow similar pattern, and each end with "And this is all because of Karl Marx." God help your sanity if you look directly in the center, because no God or Devil can help a mortal figure that poo poo out.

Edit: Well, more like the top center, where the Democratic party is.

Raiad fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Mar 4, 2013

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

djw175 posted:

Can anyone decipher this? It's too crazy for me to follow.



Sure. Here it is in a nutshell.

Backyard Blacksmith posted:

Is there a psychological principle that's like the Dunning-Kruger effect, except referring to intellect/education rather than competence/skill? Basically people being so ignorant, they don't even understand the topic well enough to know they're missing information, and then refusing to learn more about it to lessen their ignorance.

I dunno about that, but "willful ignorance" works. (See above quoted image for more on that.)

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Mar 4, 2013

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Raiad posted:

Karl Marx is responsible for literally everything that's wrong with the world, but I'm guessing you got that much already. I tried to piece together one chain and my brain probably broke.

Hollywood and the media spread the concept of Multi-culturalism (i.e. accepting those goddamn __________(insert race/creed/culture here)). This is because of political correctness/cultural marxism (same thing I guess?) came about from the Frankfurt School, which produced in particular Herbert Marcuse. And this is all because of Karl Marx.

I imagine the rest of the lines follow similar pattern, and each end with "And this is all because of Karl Marx." God help your sanity if you look directly in the center, because no God or Devil can help a mortal figure that poo poo out.

Edit: Well, more like the top center, where the Democratic party is.

Such a tangled web of complication for what can be summed up as "we are brainwashed willfully ignorant simpletons who have been trained to bark at a scapegoat we don't understand anything about at all."

SPERMCUBE.ORG posted:

How do you like your tea? Cream, sugar... or do you want me to pee in it?



But the weird people in society weren't sexually repressed enough to be tea baggers so it all kinda falls apart.

Oh nice find.

The film got good reviews in europe, but Americans "weren't receptive to the ideas in it." Wonder why. Too close to home perhaps? :allears:

I just found it easily so I'm watching it now before bed.

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Mar 4, 2013

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.
(accidental double post)

Rambling Robot
Sep 13, 2011
Duggar Fan Club Superstar #1 LOL


Bowman, so the "Democratic Socialists of America", "Democratic party", "Churches" and Hollywood are all penetrated by the "Radical Homosexual Agenda", which again is driven by "homosexual movement"?


Now, aren't you a naughty boy Bowman?

Trying to tell us something stud? :syoon:

Hoekie
Apr 22, 2010
I've finally caught up with this thread after reading the first one as well. :stare:. I keep thinking of this recent article on Vice about Uncle Ruckus from The Boondocks. I think he would be perfect for TPC, in a very sad and horrible way. Here's a snippet from the interview with Aaron McGruder:

"I came up with Ruckus before the Tea Party, and before Herman Cain. But in the post-Obama era, half the country became Uncle Ruckus. The world is more polarized and extreme. Ruckus embodies that. I remember watching CNN when Herman Cain was the frontrunner for the Republican party, and they did a segment on whether Herman Cain was Uncle Ruckus. [Ed. note: This segment is no longer available online.] They brought in an expert and had pictures of them side by side... I couldn’t believe what I was watching. When Ruckus was first introduced, he felt like a funny, fringe character. He was bizarre and really extreme. Now, he feels like he represents a lot of right wing ideology. It’s crazy, but the times caught up to him."

:stare: :stare: :stare:

For context and good measure http://www.vice.com/read/the-boondocks-creator-aaron-mcgruder-tells-us-about-the-uncle-ruckus-movie

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

Rambling Robot posted:


Bowman, so the "Democratic Socialists of America", "Democratic party", "Churches" and Hollywood are all penetrated by the "Radical Homosexual Agenda", which again is driven by "homosexual movement"?


Now, aren't you a naughty boy Bowman?

Trying to tell us something stud? :syoon:

Yes, awful lot of hardcore penetration going on there. :laugh:

(Someone is going to edit it so the arrows are all dicks now, aren't they?)



I also love that the USSR and KGB are major players in 2013. As if the idea of worrying about C-C-C-COMMUNIST INFILTRATION/CONSPIRACY in 2013 wasn't ridiculous enough.

Can these dumb old fuckers hurry up and die already so they stop shaking the country with phantom pains of stupidity from the cold war?

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Mar 4, 2013

Strict Picnic
Feb 10, 2013

by Ralp
What happens when you pit the personification of the internet against the TPC?










After about 5 hours, numerous troll reports, and being blocked by almost every active member, the big guy himself delivers his zinger:



Cleverbot learned a lot tonight.

Tim Selaty Jr
May 16, 2011

by Pipski
The irrational fear of communism is probably my favorite part about the American right at this moment.

Then again, I saw Russkies when I was like 6 and the idea that people from communist countries are human beings with feelings has stuck with me for life (also I saw that episode of Boy Meets World where they go back in time to the 50s) so people who thing that communism is this creeping horrible thing that will stop at nothing to destroy America are hilarious because actually it's Fred Savage's brother from the future

Tim Selaty Jr fucked around with this message at 11:59 on Mar 4, 2013

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
I swear, these people are literally stuck in the 1950s. Even their maps are from 60 years ago.

samsquantch1
Feb 18, 2013

Backyard Blacksmith posted:

Is there a psychological principle that's like the Dunning-Kruger effect, except referring to intellect/education rather than competence/skill? Basically people being so ignorant, they don't even understand the topic well enough to know they're missing information, and then refusing to learn more about it to lessen their ignorance.

This is from last night, but I have read several studies over the years that look at how conservative and liberal brains process information differently. Here is a link to 16 peer reviewed studies that look at that. I have not read through all these particular studies. Something to peruse to get a basic understanding of what psychologists and neuroscientists are saying about this. One of the more interesting things, in my opinion, is that conservatives seem to have much greater 'disgust sensitivity' than liberals.

http://2012election.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004818

I like Clever bot! Not surprised to see Tina's son has a confederate flag in his room. I posted a statement she made yesterday about how she almost 'took a liberal to the floor' at the store because she was so, so mad.

samsquantch1 fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Mar 4, 2013

plaguedoctor
Jun 26, 2008

I CAN DUMP MY GIRLFRIEND CAUSE SHE'S LIKE A WHORE, RIGHT GUYS? RIGHT???

Spacedad posted:

Anyway - if anyone could point out any recent horror films (or books) that draw good allegory or metaphor to the Tea Party mentality, I'm eager to hear.

The recent remake of the "V" series works pretty well at this.

You have a large group of atheist or otherwise science-minded folks who show up to bring universal healthcare, peace and multiculturalism, hope and change to those struggling around the world. They are led by a group of strong, intelligent female characters. They rely on reasoned, rational debate and goodwill missions to spread their message around the world.

The only problem is that they are actual reptilian aliens who want to subjugate humanity for the desires of their queen. The only thing standing in their way is a plucky group of adventurers who work to foil their plans at every turn and spread THE TRUTH.

At least, that's as far as they got before the show got cancelled. It seemed like they were working on painting the human protagonists as actual terrorists, but when the producers got the axe they just sort of let it go.

Also, there are literal reptilians in the Vatican. :v:

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Last night I was reading this thread and I just started cracking up. I just realized how hilarious this whole thing is.

Obama has what is literally the most important job on earth, and there are millions of completely uninvolved people that want him to fail at it.

Because he's black.

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.

thehumandignity posted:


Because he's black.

Nah, they hated Clinton too. Mind, they they are certainly quite racist against him, but they actually hate him because he's a Democrat.

e., what I'm saying is, they'd hate him just as much if he were white, just in different ways.

lamb
Mar 9, 2004

A single act of carelessness leads to the eternal loss of beauty

SPERMCUBE.ORG posted:

How do you like your tea? Cream, sugar... or do you want me to pee in it?



But the weird people in society weren't sexually repressed enough to be tea baggers so it all kinda falls apart.

Scrolling past this I thought it was a photoshop someone made of John Kerry and I was very confused.

escape artist
Sep 24, 2005

Slow train coming

platedlizard posted:

Nah, they hated Clinton too. Mind, they they are certainly quite racist against him, but they actually hate him because he's a Democrat.

e., what I'm saying is, they'd hate him just as much if he were white, just in different ways.

They disliked Clinton, but it wasn't as bad as Obama. They are sabotaging the country just to see Obama fail. At least when Clinton was in office, there was the ability for bipartisan compromise in Congress, because the nation was of the foremost importance-- not party politics.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



escape artist posted:

They disliked Clinton, but it wasn't as bad as Obama. They are sabotaging the country just to see Obama fail. At least when Clinton was in office, there was the ability for bipartisan compromise in Congress, because the nation was of the foremost importance-- not party politics.
Frankly, I think the key differences were that Clinton showed up when there was going to be SOME degree of economic good news just from computers getting big, as opposed to Obama - and, of course, the lack of a few election cycles of increasing crazy. That said, the main difference is I don't think people would be implying Barry O'Banion was a foreigner quite so hard.

HackerJoeGuy
Apr 18, 2007

I do think that a certain degree of culture shock is playing a part in the Anti-Obama rhetoric. Not even a decade ago, a lot of people wouldn't have really suspected a black president actually happening in their lifetimes. So when Obama was elected it was a healthy mix of him being black, a democrat, and the opposition just being in complete denial of it happening because it went against their own deep-seeded views on the societal norms. Hell I'm as socialist-commu-crat as one can be and if you told me in 2000 that there would be a black president by 2008, I'd have laughed in your face. But then after Bush, people were more open to the idea of something different.

romeo x-ray
Jan 16, 2013

by angerbeet

thehumandignity posted:

Last night I was reading this thread and I just started cracking up. I just realized how hilarious this whole thing is.

Obama has what is literally the most important job on earth, and there are millions of completely uninvolved people that want him to fail at it.

Because he's black.

And he just got banned within 60 seconds. Guess they really don't like him over there. Probably wouldn't have lasted much longer with Plan B, Grandpa Selaty, an openly racist all-caps geriatric threatening to shoot people for messin' with his boys. Maybe he'll still show up.

7744
Mar 27, 2003

It had no choice. Their defense grid was smashed. We'd won. Taking out Carr then would make no difference. Skynet had to wipe out his entire existence!
I feel like the propagation of social media and the increase in echo chamber style reporting from 24 hour news networks hasn't helped. If Clinton were president now, we'd probably have the same amount of image macros about him being a wild porn star fornicator and bad photoshops of him as a cigar.

prinnylaharl
Feb 10, 2013

platedlizard posted:

Nah, they hated Clinton too. Mind, they they are certainly quite racist against him, but they actually hate him because he's a Democrat.

e., what I'm saying is, they'd hate him just as much if he were white, just in different ways.

Everyone I know that identifies themselves as a member of the tea party actually liked Clinton, a lot. Post 9/11 most of them started to get into the whole "Islam is the most evil religion in existence!" mind set due to watching Fox News. After sitting down and talking with all of them their response about why they hate Obama even though they would fully support most of his policies under another president came down to "He's a Muslim atheist!" or "He's a Kenyan Muslim atheist". So in my experience at least it really just comes down to the fact he has Hussein in his name or that he's black, depending on the person.

romeo x-ray
Jan 16, 2013

by angerbeet

7744 posted:

I feel like the propagation of social media and the increase in echo chamber style reporting from 24 hour news networks hasn't helped. If Clinton were president now, we'd probably have the same amount of image macros about him being a wild porn star fornicator and bad photoshops of him as a cigar.

Which'd at least be funny, not hateful. There'd also be a lot less (no?) COMMIE-NAZI-HITLER-KING-MUSLIM!! bull, and not a word about his birth certificate.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

7744 posted:

I feel like the propagation of social media and the increase in echo chamber style reporting from 24 hour news networks hasn't helped. If Clinton were president now, we'd probably have the same amount of image macros about him being a wild porn star fornicator and bad photoshops of him as a cigar.

Yeah but the blatant racist jokes about the President and his Wife wouldn't be common.

That is one of the biggest issues with the Tea Party, they are so blatantly racist and its doubled by the fact that Obama is president.

looking.glass.eyes
May 21, 2007

“The eye sees a thing more clearly in dreams than the imagination awake.” -Leonardo da Vinci
The tea party really is flipping their poo poo about aid to Egypt and the Muslim Brotherhood. I just did some quick reading up on them because I admittedly don't know much, and I cannot find a whole lot wrong with them. The most controversial thing I found is they believe that Muslim countries should have Muslim leaders...which is exactly the kinda poo poo the tea party believes about America and Christianity. But they are in favor of diplomacy and condemn terrorism. So, is there something I am missing here that I should be outraged about? Or is it just that they are Muslims and the tea party are a bunch of :freep: ?

7744
Mar 27, 2003

It had no choice. Their defense grid was smashed. We'd won. Taking out Carr then would make no difference. Skynet had to wipe out his entire existence!

romeo x-ray posted:

Which'd at least be funny, not hateful. There'd also be a lot less (no?) COMMIE-NAZI-HITLER-KING-MUSLIM!! bull, and not a word about his birth certificate.

CommieGIR posted:

Yeah but the blatant racist jokes about the President and his Wife wouldn't be common.

That is one of the biggest issues with the Tea Party, they are so blatantly racist and its doubled by the fact that Obama is president.

Agreed with both these points. I'm just saying that going forward, even if a white Christian is elected to be the next democratic president that we are still going to see these kinds of inclusive internet communities spewing hate and vitriol. While it won't be outright racism, there will still be things like challenges to their views on religion / the constitution / capitalism regardless of their actual stances.

Quick edit: For example, if Biden runs and is elected you will probably see a lot of people claiming that they aren't racist now because they now hate Biden too and oh by the way he's also a Marxist atheist.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Between the fall of the USSR and the emergence of al qaeda the GOP was in this awkward position where they didn't have a bad guy to define themselves against. This led to the crazy Clinton witchhunt, accusing Bill and Hillary of murdering Vince Foster, etc. Part 2 of 'The Power of Nightmares' talks about this in depth.

That irrational outrage/fear rhetoric has slowly been dialed up to 11 and the Tea Party is like an out of control freight train at this point.

Its interesting to point out that while Clinton was facing actual impeachment, Goldman-Sachs exec and Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin was managing US reaction to the economic crises in Asia and Russia :tinfoil:

McCloud24
May 23, 2008

You call yourself a knight; what is that?

looking.glass.eyes posted:

Or is it just that they are Muslims and the tea party are a bunch of :freep: ?

Mostly this. Some say they advocate violence against non-Muslims, but it doesn't seem to be a systematic part of their platform, and I think most religious movements have a certain element within them that would do that, given enough time. They have advocated for some goofy taxes to be levied against Coptic Christians and Jews, but again, I think if you gave them the chance a lot of religious movements would like to tax people based on NOT being a part of their group.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

7744 posted:

Agreed with both these points. I'm just saying that going forward, even if a white Christian is elected to be the next democratic president that we are still going to see these kinds of inclusive internet communities spewing hate and vitriol. While it won't be outright racism, there will still be things like challenges to their views on religion / the constitution / capitalism regardless of their actual stances.

Quick edit: For example, if Biden runs and is elected you will probably see a lot of people claiming that they aren't racist now because they now hate Biden too and oh by the way he's also a Marxist atheist.

If Biden runs there will be a neverending talk of how he was somehow corrupted by Obama's socialist ways

Mitchicon
Nov 3, 2006

I just want to see that loving grin for another four years knowing how much it pisses off Republicans.

Craig Spradlin
Apr 6, 2009

Right in the babymaker.

escape artist posted:

They disliked Clinton, but it wasn't as bad as Obama. They are sabotaging the country just to see Obama fail. At least when Clinton was in office, there was the ability for bipartisan compromise in Congress, because the nation was of the foremost importance-- not party politics.

It seems to me that with any president, there's a certain amount of partisan crazy that comes with the national discourse. During the Clinton administration, it was things like Hilary wearing the pants in the family, Chelsea being ugly, the whole Whitewater thing and Clinton's extracurricular wick-dipping being blown wildly out of proportion, and paranoid conspiracy theories about Vince Foster's death.

During the Obama administration, however, we've had not only stuff of that caliber, but also an entire splinter faction of one of our political parties getting some spectacularly unqualified people elected to the legislature (and this problem being bad enough that even Karl Rove is starting to say "hmm, maybe let's not do this"), people openly questioning the president's nationality and citizenship, people in the government actually accusing the president of not being humble enough, and even legislators shouting things like "You lie!" during presidential addresses. poo poo that is if not unprecedented, at least something we haven't seen in decades.

If, controlling for all of the partisan crazy associated with any given administration, you still have weird poo poo like this happening above and beyond all that? You have to attribute it to the differences between those administrations. Sure, there are some situational factors in play - post-9/11 America and eight more years of polarization from right-wing media sources notable among them - but all other things being equal, electing a black man as the President of the United States was a prime mover in making people flip the gently caress out in historically novel ways and borderline-seditious ways.

Nostalgia4ColdWar
May 7, 2007

Good people deserve good things.

Till someone lets the winter in and the dying begins, because Old Dark Places attract Old Dark Things.
Christ, being deep cover makes me feel dirty. It's like taking all the poo poo my racist homophobic uncle says and pretending I'm saying it.

looking.glass.eyes
May 21, 2007

“The eye sees a thing more clearly in dreams than the imagination awake.” -Leonardo da Vinci

McCloud24 posted:

Mostly this. Some say they advocate violence against non-Muslims, but it doesn't seem to be a systematic part of their platform, and I think most religious movements have a certain element within them that would do that, given enough time. They have advocated for some goofy taxes to be levied against Coptic Christians and Jews, but again, I think if you gave them the chance a lot of religious movements would like to tax people based on NOT being a part of their group.

Yeah, it seems that the ties between the mainstream of the organization and any violent extremists are weak at best. They are regularly denounced by actual terrorists/extremists for being moderates and participating in politics. And their logic behind the taxation even kind of, sort of makes sense. Military service is compulsory for Muslims but not for non-Muslims. Again, sounds like the kind of thing the tea party would endorse if it was America and Christianity instead of Egypt and Islam. So it IS just the tea party being the tea party, and providing aid to Egypt now is really no worse than it has been for the past several decades. Thanks!

Vienna Circlejerk
Jan 28, 2003

The great science sausage party!

CommieGIR posted:

If Biden runs there will be a neverending talk of how he was somehow corrupted by Obama's socialist ways

Yes. Keep in mind that the Tea Party's idealogical forebears, the John Birch Society (which I think have been discussed earlier in this thread, or perhaps in the other one) have been waiting in the wings since the 1950s. Between 9/11 driving some people completely insane, and the election of a black president helping some people discover their inner racist, a lot of people have been primed for this kind of extremism and it's not going to let up. The JBS openly accused loving Eisenhower of being "a tool of the Communists" and a traitor. Eisenhower.

a shiny rock
Nov 13, 2009

This site will always be broken as long as it has a global feed. The point of re-sharing something on Facebook is to take something that came from one of your friends and pass it along to your group of friends who hadn't seen the original post. People on TPC click "share" on a macro, and now it's just on the same global feed twice.

romeo x-ray
Jan 16, 2013

by angerbeet

romeo x-ray fucked around with this message at 23:20 on May 27, 2013

a shiny rock
Nov 13, 2009

Guys, did you hear the first lady is similar to an ape?

samsquantch1
Feb 18, 2013

Parallax Scroll posted:

Guys, did you hear the first lady is similar to an ape?




And she has dandruff in her pubic hair, I guess? See the last comment.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Parallax Scroll posted:

Guys, did you hear the first lady is similar to an ape?



Hmmm...they are both Doctors, they both have black hair.

Yes, the similarities are too perfect :psyduck:

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Polythene Pam
Dec 27, 2007

And I thought MY super hyper weapon was small...!

Parallax Scroll posted:

Guys, did you hear the first lady is similar to an ape?



James Manning is quite the looker himself. :haw:

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