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Think they'd do Darkseid as a villain considering the Avengers might go with Thanos? It'd be kind of similar. Then again I'm hoping we'll get something a bit more unique that doesn't go down expectation alley. Perhaps this will be the Young Justice League in college who have just turned 21 for the first time and it'll be a "teen" comedy romp trip across Europe.
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ZackHoagie posted:He gave away his job, dude. Give him some time to plan and he'll get it back.
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Gatts posted:Think they'd do Darkseid as a villain considering the Avengers might go with Thanos? It'd be kind of similar. The problem with a JL villain is that you either have someone so strong only Supes can really tackle/deal with or you have someone Supes can wipe the floor with. It'll never happen in a million years, but I think the JL movie should straight up ignore any/all origins to the characters. Maybe during the intro credits show that these heroes exist and are doing their own thing in their respective city then throw something that forces them to come together. In the current DC universe, Batman was active for 5 years before anyone knew he even existed. They shouldn't try to copy Marvel's phase initiatives. Or just skip to the ensemble movie then do individual films that are within the shared universe.
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Watching Punisher War Zone again... I love this movie, gently caress the haters.
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Throwdown posted:Watching Punisher War Zone again... I love this movie, gently caress the haters. That movie taught me what should be done to anyone who parkour
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bobkatt013 posted:That movie taught me what should be done to anyone who parkour Blown up with a bazooka. I think it is a perfect example of Marvel Knights. Edit: Watching some controversial movies tonight, went from Punisher War Zone to Watchmen. I like Watchmen as well, it may be a half rear end representation of the original comic but it is a fantastic parody of comic book movies. Throwdown fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Mar 5, 2013 |
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Mar 5, 2013 05:27
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Haven't seen this posted anywhere yet, but Halle Berry has been confirmed to be coming back for Days of Future Past. http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=36692 She was essentially the only remaining original cast member not to be coming back, though I suppose a dedicated enough fan could make the case that Kelsey Grammer's Beast absolutely NEEDS to be in this. I would have been just as satisfied had they simply opted to say "Storm died. She's dead now, it's very sad."
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Tripwyre posted:She was essentially the only remaining original cast member not to be coming back Marsden and Janssen.
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Tripwyre posted:Haven't seen this posted anywhere yet, but Halle Berry has been confirmed to be coming back for Days of Future Past. Grammar was confirmed not to be back today. I never got the hate the internet seems to have for Berry's Storm. She's not very interesting, and she had the infamously bad Toad line, but she's not poorly portraying some well-written character.
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Timby posted:Marsden and Janssen. Well yes, but both of those characters are dead. They already have enough to explain in terms of time-travel, they don't need to saddle themselves with reviving a pair of dead characters at the same time. e: feedmyleg posted:Grammar was confirmed not to be back today. Tripwyre fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Mar 5, 2013 |
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Mar 5, 2013 05:57
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feedmyleg posted:Grammar was confirmed not to be back today. This sucks, I really liked him. Having never read Days of Future Past, how big of a role does Beast have in it anyway?
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feedmyleg posted:Grammar was confirmed not to be back today. Storm's such an strong and intense character in the other media, it's infuriating to see her being so dull all the time. And the toad line is from Halle messing up the punchline to the easiest joke ever (was supposed to say "it croaks")
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Tripwyre posted:Well yes, but both of those characters are dead. So is Stewart's Professor X.
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Timby posted:So is Stewart's Professor X. Looks like someone didn't stay past the credits! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSkn3KYwmtc Happy Noodle Boy fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Mar 5, 2013 |
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Yonic Symbolism posted:Storm's such an strong and intense character in the other media, it's infuriating to see her being so dull all the time. And the toad line is from Halle messing up the punchline to the easiest joke ever (was supposed to say "it croaks") Goofs: When Jakie Rabinowitz (Al Jolson) says "You ain't heard nothin' yet!" this is actually him messing up the line. Originally, the line was "You've heard something!"
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:The problem with a JL villain is that you either have someone so strong only Supes can really tackle/deal with or you have someone Supes can wipe the floor with. I don't think that's as much of a problem as it's made out to be. On the power scale side of things, you can have both cosmic-level threats that even Superman could individually be overpowered by (Darkseid occasionally falls into this category, for example), as well as wide-scale threats like full alien invasions, magic apolcalypses, etc. that are simply too broad in scope for any one hero to cover the entire world simultaneously. And on the characterization side, as Superman himself put it once in the comics, "it's not a cooperation, not a competition". There should be something of a spirit of altruism and forward thinking to it as well, not just how much harder seven people can hit someone than one person can. quote:It'll never happen in a million years, but I think the JL movie should straight up ignore any/all origins to the characters. Maybe during the intro credits show that these heroes exist and are doing their own thing in their respective city then throw something that forces them to come together. In the current DC universe, Batman was active for 5 years before anyone knew he even existed. I agree, and I think the solution was already done quite elegantly. They should do it Watchmen-style and have an action-filled credits sequence that summarizes the lesser-known characters' origins and abilities, and sets up the general state of the world where the story picks up. I hope the suits realize that they shouldn't blindly chase Marvel's Avengers formula, and part of that should be ignoring how their team dynamic works. The Avengers are about getting strong independent personalities to unite under a respected leader, like a superpowered war pact; the Justice League is about getting passionate defenders to coordinate and realign their priorities for a greater good, like a superpowered relief effort.
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Throwdown posted:Blown up with a bazooka. I think it is a perfect example of Marvel Knights. I get that Watchmen the film is a commentary (or at least works as one) of modern superhero movies, much the way the book deconstructed the idea of the then-contemporary superhero book. My problems with the movie are three-fold. 1) It is not nearly as intelligent or deep of a commentary as the book. 2) The book is incredibly enjoyable on a number of levels, including technical artistry (shape repetition, compositional repetition, overlapping themes) and I did not feel the same from the movie. 3) There were some incredibly poor decisions made from a directorial standpoint. I will elaborate on that last one. Many of the casting choices were inspired. Night Owl 2, Carla Gugino's young Silk Spectre 1, and Jackie Earl Haley's hosed up face all work very well. Jackie Earl Haley's performance however was insane. He screamed nearly every line in a crazy gravely voice where Rorschach was, in the book, emotionally detached when speaking, using simple and almost technical language. "[beans are] fine cold." "You quit." etc. The decision to put Carla Gugino in old-person makeup and have her crazy overact in the 'present' sections of the film was also bizarre. The casting for Silk Spectre 2 and Ozymandias was strange. The focus on slow-motion bone breaking during fight sequences. The entirety of the soundtrack after the opening credits sequence. I get how things like Rorschach's Balesque growl and the focus on torture porn during fights work as a commentary of genre movies today. My issue isn't with that. My issue is that these don't work at all outside of the context of commentary. They exist solely to criticize specific films and not to help or further Watchmen in any way. If you want to criticize films, be a film critic. Don't direct a large-budget adaptation of one of the most important English-language works of the last century. McSpanky posted:I agree, and I think the solution was already done quite elegantly. They should do it Watchmen-style and have an action-filled credits sequence that summarizes the lesser-known characters' origins and abilities, and sets up the general state of the world where the story picks up. While I'm rambling about Watchmen, I'd like to clarify something. I really liked how they worked in so much of the supplementary material during that opening, and I think the soundtrack worked perfectly for that. I also had no issue with them removing the psychic vagina monster from the end and instead make it a blame-Dr.-Manhattan plot. I thought that change was for the best considering the constraints of the medium and how people react differently to ideas presented on film rather than on paper. Audiences would have been rightly confused and bewildered by a giant psychic vagina monster suddenly appearing in their superhero movie. It would have been a disaster. Of course, this removes the Comedian's motivation for drunkenly visiting Moloch in the middle of the night, but that's a minor plot hole. Baron von Eevl fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Mar 5, 2013 |
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What's wrong with the X-men toad line? The "real" line was worse
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Zzulu posted:What's wrong with the X-men toad line? Wrong line, wrong character, wrong actress. Literally everything is wrong with it. I've gone all Midnighter on that scenario in my head and a million permutations later, it just doesn't work. Sometimes you just gotta leave Whedon on the cutting room floor.
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Zzulu posted:What's wrong with the X-men toad line? Actually, she said the correct line. It was just WHEDON SNARK (tm) and Berry as an actress didn't understand how to portray WHEDON SNARK (tm), so she just said it flat, which made it ridiculous. It shows what happens when actors that don't "get it" attempt to handle Whedon's writing.
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I thought the issue was Berry had given an interview where she complained about the lack of roles for African-American women and basically said "I'm reduced to being in this stupid superhero movie", which pissed off a lot of nerds who take their spandex-flicks seriously.
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She didn't mess up the line, Whedon simply wrote a bad line if people owned up to it instead of giving him a pass everytime we could get over it.
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It's a bad line and Halle Berry's a bad actress.
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That's not fair. She can be quite compelling when she gives a poo poo about the role.
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Honest Thief posted:She didn't mess up the line, Whedon simply wrote a bad line if people owned up to it instead of giving him a pass everytime we could get over it. I dislike everything Whedon has done outside of Dr. Horrible, and I'm the one that brought that up. It's obviously a mix of terrible line delivery, and a line being written to the point where it sounds good only in one's head (which means that only a few actors would be able to pull that off, in general). It's basically a young Harrison Ford/RDJ line given to someone who is not them.
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The line isn't actually a joke, so I don't think Whedon has the right to rag on her for not delivering it like one.
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If Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen can take their roles as characters named Professor X and Magneto with psychic/magnet powers seriously, Halle Berry should be able to take her role as Storm seriously 
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Yonic Symbolism posted:If Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen can take their roles as characters named Professor X and Magneto with psychic/magnet powers seriously, Halle Berry should be able to take her role as Storm seriously Patrick Stewart is a horrible Professor X 
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Crackbone posted:I thought the issue was Berry had given an interview where she complained about the lack of roles for African-American women and basically said "I'm reduced to being in this stupid superhero movie", which pissed off a lot of nerds who take their spandex-flicks seriously. She should concede the role to an African-American actress who actually gives a poo poo about the role or can deliver more than the poo poo performances she's given in a decade.
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She's not on the A-list any more so you can expect her to be working for the paycheck this time around.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke1Y3P9D0Bc
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Looks pretty cool from a spectacle standpoint and I love whatever the hell Ben Kingsley's going for with his voice but I hope they haven't dispensed with the humor entirely.
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:Looks pretty cool from a spectacle standpoint and I love whatever the hell Ben Kingsley's going for with his voice but I hope they haven't dispensed with the humor entirely. Yeah, and based on the shot of Pepper in her underwear in the end, I bet we're going to see her in a suit for sure.
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omg chael crash posted:That suit at the end looks pretty dopey. Well that Space Hulk isn't gonna clear itself.
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(Let me preface this with the fact that, while problematic, I love the Iron Man movies and am a huge comic book geek) What I love most about the trailer and the movie so far is the continuing of the ultra "OOH RAH" Randian ubermensch and USA GO GO GO feeling of the first two seems in full force in this one as well, with the added hilarity of the symbol of capitalism using literal drones to fight a pan-asian villain. It's delicious.
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Waffles Inc. posted:(Let me preface this with the fact that, while problematic, I love the Iron Man movies and am a huge comic book geek) Yeah, I've always loved how Iron Man and Cap are both so GO AMERICA! but in often completely incompatible ways.
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They've also posted an interview with RDJ regarding playing Tony Stark for a 4th time, and Shane Black and Kevin Feige also did an interview. It's got minor spoilers, but I think it's pretty cool that The Mandarin is aparently a media-savvy supervillain terrorist.
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There is also a fairly large, spoiler filled article over at IGN if you want to read it. I guess they saw 20 or so minutes of the film and posted their thoughts and a rough synopsis.
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