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It works in Civ because you seldom have reason to communicate with others. Even then, when you're constantly being bombarded by requests it gets annoying. I've started wars with other civs because of how often they request military access.
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Wolfgang Pauli posted:It works in Civ because you seldom have reason to communicate with others. Even then, when you're constantly being bombarded by requests it gets annoying. I've started wars with other civs because of how often they request military access. That's why it should be very rare for some special events that do not occur every minute. But the games are fine as they are.
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Mar 9, 2013 17:03
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Torabi posted:Is there any Paradox game that features the Persian Empire? As in, the big Empire we had ages ago and not the mess we have now. EU: Rome would, wouldn't it? I remember there being a lot of complaints in Wiz's Crete LP about the Sassanids.
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I'll setup a MotE MP games at 9PM CET (8PM GMT, 2PM CST) if goons show up. If some kind goon would like to setup a paradox goons steam group here, that would be much appreciated. e: not enough goons showed up. Maybe tomorrow mmtt fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Mar 9, 2013 |
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Mar 9, 2013 18:23
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mmtt posted:I'll setup a MotE MP games at 9PM CET (8PM GMT, 2PM CST) if goons show up. Steam Group Ahoy. Gorgo add this to OP thx. sniper4625 fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Mar 9, 2013 |
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Mar 9, 2013 18:58
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PleasingFungus posted:EU: Rome would, wouldn't it? I remember there being a lot of complaints in Wiz's Crete LP about the Sassanids. For almost all their history the Sassanids only held territory a little bit bigger than modern Iran. They only really expanded in force during a brief period where they exploited a Byzantine civil war, and their gains were taken back completely a few years after the civil war ended (and then they were almost immediately gobbled up by the Caliphate). If you wanted to go back to a really big Persia, you'd need to go all the way back to the Achaemenids, and that's several hundred years before even EU:Rome Slantedfloors fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Mar 9, 2013 |
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Mar 9, 2013 19:12
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Torabi posted:Is there any Paradox game that features the Persian Empire? As in, the big Empire we had ages ago and not the mess we have now. Why on earth would you want to port the most annoying feature of Civ V to a game that would have a lower VA budget and thus would probably do it even worse? e: I guess it's really just the leader splash screens that are particularly obnoxious, units talking and poo poo is fine. But given how bad some of the non-voice acted sound effects in paradox games have been, and how often they gently caress up even simple pieces of written text, I still think nothing good could come of adding voice acting to the mix. Jeb Bush 2012 fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Mar 9, 2013 |
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Mar 9, 2013 19:29
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Seriously, professional voice acting is usually one of the most expensive parts of a game's budget. And you do not want non-professional Swedes doing the voices of a game that spans the entire world. As far as Persia goes, load up Vicky 2 and make them an empire. Persepolis reborn.
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Mar 9, 2013 20:11
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:Why on earth would you want to port the most annoying feature of Civ V to a game that would have a lower VA budget and thus would probably do it even worse? I liked it in Civ V because it is nice to hear various languages but not even the devs behind Civ bothered to add more than a few voice lines. So I suppose it is for the better that we do not have voice acting. Wolfgang Pauli posted:Seriously, professional voice acting is usually one of the most expensive parts of a game's budget. And you do not want non-professional Swedes doing the voices of a game that spans the entire world. I shall restore Iran's honor.  I should probably get better at HOI3 and CK2 before I buy more Paradox games though.
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Mar 9, 2013 20:47
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Each game has its own flavor. Vicky 2's next expansion is getting close, and you should be able to find a key for EU3 *e* gently caress, all this time and I still use the wrong name. Paradox! 
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It would be cute to have units speak in their native languages, like CIV, but not really worth the time and money. Especially when YOUR GLORIOUS PEOPLE'S language is merged with YOUR TRADITIONAL ENEMIES language (i.e. the country next door) because they can't record hundreds of different languages.
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Torabi posted:I liked it in Civ V because it is nice to hear various languages but not even the devs behind Civ bothered to add more than a few voice lines. So I suppose it is for the better that we do not have voice acting. It's worth noting that in Civ 5, a lot of the voice actors were pretty flat and had oddly-constructed lines anyhow. Edit: That is, the voice actors sounded like robots and were using scripts that were apparently a near-direct translation of some English phrase. Tomn fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Mar 9, 2013 |
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Fintilgin posted:It would be cute to have units speak in their native languages, like CIV, but not really worth the time and money. Especially when YOUR GLORIOUS PEOPLE'S language is merged with YOUR TRADITIONAL ENEMIES language (i.e. the country next door) because they can't record hundreds of different languages.
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James The 1st posted:Just imagine the hundreds of threads on proper Balkan dialect at the Paradox forums! 
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Torabi posted:Is there any Paradox game that features the Persian Empire? As in, the big Empire we had ages ago and not the mess we have now. You might be able to grab a Zoroastrian Persian character in ck2 and restore the Sassanids...
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Having an announcer proclaim the building of a "factroy" would be magical  VVVV Come to think of it, the perfect guy to do this would be the Sean Connery-sounding fellow that did the VA for Majesty, "Your highness, our province is under siege!". It's even a Paradox-published series! gradenko_2000 fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Mar 9, 2013 |
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I think it would be kind of silly. I get enough things like "Our town is under seige!" "Yes Milord!" from games like Warcraft or Command and Conquer, I don't need every single army in my 200K manpower empire saying that every time I order them around!
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DrSunshine posted:I think it would be kind of silly. I get enough things like "Our town is under seige!" "Yes Milord!" from games like Warcraft or Command and Conquer, I don't need every single army in my 200K manpower empire saying that every time I order them around! Especially prior to the invention of radio. What are they doing, praying to the immortal God-King? This game takes place on some loving huge maps, and you're ostensibly playing your country's head of state, so I sincerely doubt you'd ever go out and personally give orders to every minor military formation in the country.
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 I've drug Byzantium out of the gutter and expanded decently. However, I feel like I'm hosed because I cannot get an edge over the Western nations. Being so far from the Iberia region makes it impossible to colonize America so I lost that race badly. Castille has already dominated almost 80% of Africa's coast and is extremely powerful. Where do I go? East to China and Japan? Also what units should I be using? I see Muslim Musketmen far reaches of my Empire but my capital builds Pikemen. Should I be using technology from the Muslim group or are they just naturally weaker than the Eastern which are weaker than the Western?
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YouTuber posted:
The Muslim tech group progresses more slowly than the Eastern group, but it has a head start & tends to have control of significantly more territory. ...in your case, though, with you having taken half the middle east & Castille taking North Africa, the muslim tech group is probably quite small! Westernization would be ideal, but that requires good sliders & a great emperor. (Looks like you've got a slider move waiting. You've been making those moves every 10 years, right?) Aside from that, maybe try to start moving toward India?
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If you don't claim the Golden Horde, Novgorod will.
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Beautify your borders in Arabia, which is to say release everything south of Kuwait ASAP. After that, go to town on the Balkans I guess (especially that OPM in western Thrace), unless there's cascading alliances. Cyprus is also not yours, for some reason. If all else fails, see if you can't catch an Italian state with their pants down. It's me, I'm the insufferable Byzantine fanboy.  Also, what the hell is Austria even doing in that screenshot.
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I played a Jerusalem game recently in MiscMods and was in the exact same position. Your expansion options are pretty clear: Wealthy provinces to your East. If you push far enough you'll reach India and the fact that they won't be colonies means they'll be worth a fuckton of ducats. You're clearly strong enough to swallow smaller Eastern European states. Hedjaz is an easy target to the South. First I'd link up your Middle Eastern possessions (what's that blue thing between them?). Plus Westernise. You need to Westernise. You're too near to Spain/Austria to risk it. Also, don't learn it the hard way, kill Russia before it gets powerful. You can vassalise Georgia and create a buffer zone but I'd go further and attack while the Golden Horde is weak (and still exists). In my game I basically carved a long strip of provinces from Yemen to Yaroslav. Russia is a loving nightmare to invade so you don't want it to form. Everybody else can wait, really.
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If you really want colonies you can always just steal them from another nation in a war. Its how I was able to make an Ottoman new world once.
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India's always an option. More importantly though, it looks like France has been kicking Castille around a bit. Wait for them to get embroiled in a nasty war and then snag Egypt. No self respecting Eastern Roman Empire should be without Alexandria.
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I say shoot for the East Indies. If you want to colonize anything as Byzantium, they're your best bet, and they offer a heck of a lot more income than Africa.
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The Persian coast and India are very wealthy, and well worth taking. Make sure you fully Westernize, including Modernizing your military, and then only build troops in provinces you have a core on (so they are built with the best troops you can use). You'll probably find it easier to push east first, before pushing west into Castille. If you're still using antiquated troop types versus them you'll have a lot of casualties, so use the time honored human wave tactic and drown them in the corpses of your armies.
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PleasingFungus posted:EU: Rome would, wouldn't it? I remember there being a lot of complaints in Wiz's Crete LP about the Sassanids. You're getting the Sassanids mixed up with the Seleucids, who were in Rome and who weren't a proper "Persian" Empire because they were run by a Macedonian elite and were a full successor state of Alexander. The real-life Seleucids at their height were pretty gigantic, owning most of Anatolia, Mesopotamia, Syria/Palestine and big chunks of Persia, but said height was a relatively short period of time (a few decades after obtaining Palestine, they promptly lost it to the Hasmonean Kingdom of Judea, most of Anatolia was lost to Hellenistic states like Pontus and then to Rome, and Persia and Mesopotamia went with Parthians). The Parthians, who gobbled up most of the Seleucid land both in real life and in Wiz's LP, were a real Persian Empire.
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If you build units from a different tech group (which you're able to do from provinces that have cores of that tech group), they won't be auto-upgraded when you research better units for your own tech group. Muslim Musketeers are unequivocally better than Pike Infantry, but you'll get better soldiers of your own tech group at Land 18. Of course your best bet is to westernize, because at your tech level, the Latin nations already have considerably more powerful units than you, in addition to their tech lead.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Having an announcer proclaim the building of a "factroy" would be magical WotR just got/or is getting a Brian Blessed voiced DLC, we should have had him record a few more lines. Having him bellow "WE HAVE BUILT A RAILWAY" at you as each province upgrades would have been magical. Missed opportunities  Edit: Or "PRICES DIIIIIIIIIVVE!" when the price of one of your top 5 produced goods drop. Darkrenown fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Mar 10, 2013 |
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Voice idea: change the coin jingle sound effect for when the month ticks over to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-7v4qnHP8
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Darkrenown posted:WotR just got/or is getting a Brian Blessed voiced DLC, we should have had him record a few more lines. Having him bellow "WE HAVE BUILT A RAILWAY" at you as each province upgrades would have been magical. Missed opportunities I misread and thought you were actually doing this and i nearly loving died. In a good way. eu4 is not up for preorder yet is it? Like you can always regret picking up a game before launch but i'm ridiculously excited also i ended up buying ck2 like 3 weeks after launch, i think i could have saved a dollar preordering.
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Darkrenown posted:WotR just got/or is getting a Brian Blessed voiced DLC, we should have had him record a few more lines. Having him bellow "WE HAVE BUILT A RAILWAY" at you as each province upgrades would have been magical. Missed opportunities I would pay so much money for this
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As vicky 2 progresses, replace the new newspapers with radio broadcasts.
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Kersch posted:Voice idea: change the coin jingle sound effect for when the month ticks over to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-7v4qnHP8 Might I suggest this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sor9GzivGbk&t=105s
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Wolfgang Pauli posted:And you do not want non-professional Swedes doing the voices of a game that spans the entire world. Oh, but I do.  Darkrenown posted:WotR just got/or is getting a Brian Blessed voiced DLC, we should have had him record a few more lines. Having him bellow "WE HAVE BUILT A RAILWAY" at you as each province upgrades would have been magical. Missed opportunities W-well, V2 has enough leeway for a third expansion... right?
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a bad enough dude posted:You might be able to grab a Zoroastrian Persian character in ck2 and restore the Sassanids... Last time I checked I couldn't make myself a Zoroastrian character with the king maker dlc thing. The option was grayed out.
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I'd pay cash dollars for a small Spirit of St Louis DLC for V2 that improves planes and allows flying over sea provinces and paratroopers. That's pretty much the only thing keeping the game's timeline from being extended indefinitely.
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Torabi posted:Last time I checked I couldn't make myself a Zoroastrian character with the king maker dlc thing. The option was grayed out. You will be able to in the Old Gods DLC.
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Kersch posted:Voice idea: change the coin jingle sound effect for when the month ticks over to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON-7v4qnHP8 Yes please. I think I'm adding this to my game.
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