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A feature that took two years of internal development I might add.
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How in the literal hell do you mess that up by changing the game's region? That work was already done! It doesn't need to be touched again for a release in the same language! Is there something I'm missing, or is that seriously as terrible as it looks?
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Mar 30, 2013 21:47
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Terper posted:Augh I'm just so tired of all this bullshit at this point. I didn't get this at first but then I realized what was wrong and my jaw just loving dropped. Amazing. Color Printer fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Mar 30, 2013 |
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Mar 30, 2013 21:48
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Please tell me, if nothing else, that 3DS games will be hacked soon just so we can see how the gently caress they managed to gently caress this up so badly. VVVV: Basically, the PAL version reverses your first and last names. So if you decided to name yourself, say, "Harry Potter", the game would refer to you as "Potter Harry". ChaosArgate fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Mar 30, 2013 |
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Mar 30, 2013 21:55
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I think I'm retarded: I read all text on that image thrice and have no idea what's wrong specifically.
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Mar 30, 2013 21:58
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Read it again, until you get it. No spoilers.Shoopuf posted:How in the literal hell do you mess that up by changing the game's region? That work was already done! It doesn't need to be touched again for a release in the same language! Is there something I'm missing, or is that seriously as terrible as it looks? And once again, this is not a bug hidden somewhere deep in the code that takes very specific conditions to reproduce: You start the game, you name your dude, it's hosed. This is the amount of QA needed to find this bug.
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Mar 30, 2013 21:59
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Saoshyant posted:I think I'm retarded: I read all text on that image thrice and have no idea what's wrong specifically. Naoya is the main character's cousin, and they share the same last name. Try checking the image again.
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Mar 30, 2013 22:00
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Len posted:On an unrelated note: How long is Luigi's Mansion? It's getting good reviews but so did the Gamecube version and that was criminally short. I don't really want to drop $40 on a new game just to have it be an afternoon of play time. It took me 18 hours 44 minutes to complete. I did a ton of searching for stuff and screwed around a lot but still, it's a decent length.
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Mar 30, 2013 22:05
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Katana Gomai posted:Read it again, until you get it. No spoilers. Read it again until you get it. I'm asking how Ghostlight hosed that up when the name scheme was already set from the American release. ... unless you're just quoting me to highlight how stupid it is.  In which case, I don't think I'll ever get over the incompetence in that. I'm so sorry, Eurogoons.
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Mar 30, 2013 22:07
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So, I was unfamiliar with Ghostlight, but I already hate them. Is there any chance of them patching this mess? My order hasn't shipped yet, and I'd like to know if I should just cancel it.
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Mar 30, 2013 22:10
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I'm not sure if I should be happy that we're actually getting an Atlus game released here or not.
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Mar 30, 2013 22:11
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Not Operator posted:So, I was unfamiliar with Ghostlight, but I already hate them. Is there any chance of them patching this mess? It took them two years to give us this, I don't think they're able to patch themselves out of a wet paperbag.
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Mar 30, 2013 22:12
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Sultan Tarquin posted:Now I feel bad for unwrapping the game. I opened my copy earlier today, and now I wish I hadn't. I can't believe it took Ghostlight this long to release it and they didn't even bother with basic QA.
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Mar 30, 2013 22:32
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Well, it is a reasonably sought after game with an insanely low print run so just stash it for a year and sell it for a profit. Whatever bugs are hidden in that game will have been forgotten by then.
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Mar 30, 2013 22:44
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Someone obviously mislabeled/mistranslated the "LAST NAME" and "FIRST NAME" tags. In Japanese, the family name comes first, then the given name, so the name input sequence would've been to enter the last name, and then the first name. By mislabeling those two text entry windows, you get reversed names. No QA at all, I guess.
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Mar 30, 2013 22:49
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How was it even an issue though. How did this even happen in the first place. Unless they somehow got the Japanese version and had to replace all the text with the American version like some loving awful hack job.
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Mar 30, 2013 22:54
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Doug Dinsdale posted:Someone obviously mislabeled/mistranslated the "LAST NAME" and "FIRST NAME" tags. I checked the NDS version, but the NA version has the first and last names in the same order. I guess someone just didn't change the flags from the JP version?
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Mar 30, 2013 22:54
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Ghostlight being absolutely terrible at localization isn't all that shocking. I've seen pictures and footage of their hackjob with the PS3 Agarest War game, where somewhere around the halfway point they start breaking down with horrible grammar, spelling, and a general lack of effort (i.e. huge dialogue boxes with only "OK" written in them). They even apologized about how bad it was and did some sort of sob story about how they couldn't be as "good" as the bigger and richer localization companies (when comparing themselves to loving Aksys of all people)
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Mar 30, 2013 22:57
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Policenaut posted:Ghostlight being absolutely terrible at localization isn't all that shocking. I've seen pictures and footage of their hackjob with the PS3 Agarest War game, where somewhere around the halfway point they start breaking down with horrible grammar, spelling, and a general lack of effort (i.e. huge dialogue boxes with only "OK" written in them). They even apologized about how bad it was and did some sort of sob story about how they couldn't be as "good" as the bigger and richer localization companies (when comparing themselves to loving Aksys of all people) Oh I remember that. Didn't they translate "Fourth Generation" as "Force Generation"?
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Mar 30, 2013 23:06
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ChaosArgate posted:Please tell me, if nothing else, that 3DS games will be hacked soon just so we can see how the gently caress they managed to gently caress this up so badly. I would hazard a guess that we are still years away from anything substantial to do things like that. The only hack that was publicly known(in the sence a homebrew dev announced they found one) was patched out, and that was only because nintendo forgot to encrypt early 3DS game saves. There was no hacking of the cartridges themselves so it is still quite secure.
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Mar 30, 2013 23:13
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If they took 2 years to translate the Japanese version to English when there was already a 100% translated American version then that's beyond incompetent. It's aggressively terrible. Like straying into being terrible on purpose.
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Mar 30, 2013 23:18
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Is there a reason why they had to translate it to UK English instead of just using the American translation? I imagine you just have to add a few Us here and there and can call it a day.
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Mar 30, 2013 23:22
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noirstronaut posted:Is there a reason why they had to translate it to UK English instead of just using the American translation? I imagine you just have to add a few Us here and there and can call it a day. Ah, but here's the fun part: Apparently they didn't. US version shots:  How the gently caress does this happen?!
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Mar 30, 2013 23:39
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noirstronaut posted:Is there a reason why they had to translate it to UK English instead of just using the American translation? I imagine you just have to add a few Us here and there and can call it a day. I would wager they have to translate internally unless they want to pay to license the American translation, assuming Atlus(?) would even allow them to.
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Mar 30, 2013 23:46
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Saoshyant posted:Speaking of the Adventure Time game, I have yet to hear if the DS version is a DSi-enhanced game and thus region-locked or what. Can anyone confirm? It's not, go ahead and import it. noirstronaut posted:Is there a reason why they had to translate it to UK English instead of just using the American translation? I imagine you just have to add a few Us here and there and can call it a day. They probably didn't want to license Atlus USA's translation (or Atlus wouldn't let them).
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Mar 30, 2013 23:54
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Startyde posted:I would wager they have to translate internally unless they want to pay to license the American translation, assuming Atlus(?) would even allow them to. PaletteSwappedNinja posted:They probably didn't want to license Atlus USA's translation (or Atlus wouldn't let them). Look at those US version comparison shots a few posts up. Unless those couple screens just randomly happened to match up exactly, word choice and linebreak location and all, they did use Atlus USA's translation.
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Mar 30, 2013 23:59
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My guess is they have the translated script but not the source code to go with that translation. Again, loving stupid but it would explain why there are fundamental programming errors.
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Mar 31, 2013 00:17
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:Look at those US version comparison shots a few posts up. Unless those couple screens just randomly happened to match up exactly, word choice and linebreak location and all, they did use Atlus USA's translation. Sure, but did they officially license it from Atlus USA or did they just manually transcribe it from the US version and attempt to hack it in themselves? It seems impossible to gently caress up a straight cut/paste job without it being deliberate.
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Mar 31, 2013 00:21
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Which would cost more? I don't see how having a team of translators work for 2 years is somehow cheaper than just licensing an already translated game.
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Mar 31, 2013 00:22
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:manually transcribe it from the US version and attempt to hack it in themselves? That would be illegal though, wouldn't it?
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Mar 31, 2013 00:40
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homeless snail posted:Haven't seen much talk about the Adventure Time game in here, probably rightfully so since its a mediocre kids game, but I gotta say as someone that really enjoys Wayforward and Adventure Time I found it loving delightful. Its Wayforward doing what Wayforward does best, so its full of awesome spritework and music paired with some amazing writing from Pen Ward. Its a 4 hour long fetch quest, but at least I had fun ogling the art and laughing at everything else. Thanks for this minireview. I'm going to pick it up. Me and my many children love Adventure time so I think was wondering how good it was. Hows the 3d because we have 2 3ds and a ds so if there's nothing there it would be easiest to get the ds version.
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Mar 31, 2013 01:50
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:That would be illegal though, wouldn't it? It would.
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Mar 31, 2013 01:52
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Yo NA dudes, this site has a few decent deals on at the moment, plus free shipping for orders over $49: Paper Mario Sticker Star - $29 Professor Layton and the Miracle Mask Brain Age: Concentration Training - $25 Style Savvy: Trendsetters - $25 Fire Emblem Awakening - $23.99 The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D - $23.99 Adventure Time 3DS - $19.48
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Mar 31, 2013 02:08
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Yo NA dudes, this site has a few decent deals on at the moment, plus free shipping for orders over $49: Almost $10 shipping if you are out of state. I guess it's good for Nebraska Goons though.
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Mar 31, 2013 02:11
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The free shipping thing only works in-state?
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Mar 31, 2013 02:14
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There is a store pickup option for free, but the big FREE SHIPPING thing at the top is for select items.
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Mar 31, 2013 02:16
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Bombadilillo posted:Thanks for this minireview. I'm going to pick it up. Me and my many children love Adventure time so I think was wondering how good it was. Hows the 3d because we have 2 3ds and a ds so if there's nothing there it would be easiest to get the ds version. There's an Adventure Time demo on the 3DS e-shop. I think the 3d is pretty well done and works well with the sprites.
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Mar 31, 2013 02:17
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I bet most of these will not go through.
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Mar 31, 2013 02:18
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I'm still a bit interested in this translation thing. How would Atlus (or however translated it) know that their translation was ripped off? Would it be small things like the translation saying "You're smelly!" instead of a literal translation that says "You smell bad!"
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Dehry posted:There is a store pickup option for free, but the big FREE SHIPPING thing at the top is for select items. I checked with my Ohio address, and orders over $49 do indeed have free shipping. The "Free Delivery" ad is just on the Electronics page and is different from the Free Shipping advertised at the top.
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