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bobik posted:You might of missed an alien in one of the rooms and its causing the barrier on that door to stay up. I already have people in the Uber Ethereal room, 4 members of my squad, in fact. I just put my assault guy in there the last turn, so he could reload his gun. He's blocking my Plot-Essential dude. 
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Azran posted:I already have people in the Uber Ethereal room, 4 members of my squad, in fact. I just put my assault guy in there the last turn, so he could reload his gun. He's blocking my Plot-Essential dude. If your recruit dies in the last level, the game starts you over from the beginning of the last level. No penalties associated with it whatsoever. Is your recruit Zhang? You know what you have to do...
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If you're playing in your PC you could try using console codes to unstuck him. If you have soldiers inside then try to eliminate the Uber with those 4
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Apr 2, 2013 03:10
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If anyone hasn't taken Battle Scanners before I highly recommend them as a mean of watching the game break in real time. When I think turn based tactics, I think enemies warping from one edge of the map to the other while I have indirect vision on them.
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Antares posted:If anyone hasn't taken Battle Scanners before I highly recommend them as a mean of watching the game break in real time. When I think turn based tactics, I think enemies warping from one edge of the map to the other while I have indirect vision on them. That always got my goat. I can understand the teleporting thing as a time saver when you don't have vision of the path they're taking. When I realized there is no path and the aliens will completely ignore the rules of movement while warping, and so blatantly at that, I was just a little miffed.
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Apr 2, 2013 03:46
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dereku posted:If you're playing in your PC you could try using console codes to unstuck him. If you have soldiers inside then try to eliminate the Uber with those 4 Pro-tip: Uber Ethereals can't take two alien rockets to the face. I had to do it over two turns - somehow one rocket hit the boss and his entourage, but only damaged the Mutons. And gently caress redoing the mission, it took 30 minutes. Now, off to Impossible, I guess? I never thought of using the console though - I haven't played any Bethesda games.
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I don't know how you guys are even playing. I want to like this game but I'm constantly losing all my best guys because they're getting injured and just never recovering. Are we really stuck without a patch just because they can't make an x-box one?
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Dr_Amazing posted:I don't know how you guys are even playing. I want to like this game but I'm constantly losing all my best guys because they're getting injured and just never recovering. Are we really stuck without a patch just because they can't make an x-box one?
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Dr_Amazing posted:I don't know how you guys are even playing. I want to like this game but I'm constantly losing all my best guys because they're getting injured and just never recovering. Are we really stuck without a patch just because they can't make an x-box one? Are you sure? There's no big fanfare when a soldier is available again. Just a little info message at the lower left when scanning for activity, you just might be missing it. Also, they don't automatically get reinserted into your group. You have to manually remove the guys that took their place and readd the original, injured soldier.
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Yeah they aren't normal wounded. They lose the countdown. It just says "wounded" and they never get better.
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I've been reading the thread since Page 1 and yes, some people reported an Always Wounded bug. By the way, I wonder if we're ever going to get another patch/an expansion. It's awfully quiet - wasn't XCom: EU successful? Azran fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Apr 2, 2013 05:27
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There's something in the works (there was a trailer posted a few pages back with the council guy talking about "another force" or some such thing) but it's anyone's guess as to what it actually is. Couple DLC missions, expansion, sequel, who knows?
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Azran posted:I've been reading the thread since Page 1 and yes, some people reported an Always Wounded bug. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/25/deep-rising-firaxis-tease-possible-xcom-sequel/ We got this at PAX last week. There's definitely something coming; we just don't know what. E:  beaten.
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Whatever it is, I'll buy it full-price like I did X-Com: EU and not feel bad about it. So, that was an easy $20 they just made I guess.
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I hope whatever's coming fixes the bugs that haven't been addressed since release! I want to like this game but I am really really sick of being screwed over by bugs.
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That seems likely. I haven't exactly been keeping up, to be fair, but wasn't one of the reasons we have yet to see a major patch because of patching limitations on the Xbox? I'm willing to bet a big-rear end downloadable expansion would be an effective - and profitable- way to circumvent that.
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Huh, I can't believe I never realized that fusion cores aren't used to make fusion lances, only the blaster launchers. I'd always just assumed.
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Fangz posted:You are missing the point here - you are comparing averages, when his argument is in terms of worst case scenarios. There exist situations where the stars do align, the shots do connect, and the agent wearing ghost armour would be dead while the titan wearer survives. No. Just no. Ghost lets you avoid any "worst case scenario" by simply ghosting when revealing too many enemies. Or, if in high cover, hunker down + ghost gives -100% instead of -80% to hit, also eliminating any "worst case scenario". If you need the extra HP from Titan you are playing it wrong.
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Here's something neat from GDC: Revision3 got Julian Gollop and (a very starstruck) Jake Solomon in the same room for the first time to discuss turn-based alien-murder simulators old and new. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8zZsecTRfM
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The Kins posted:Here's something neat from GDC: Revision3 got Julian Gollop and (a very starstruck) Jake Solomon in the same room for the first time to discuss turn-based alien-murder simulators old and new. Holy crap, why is Julian Gollop not working with Jake on the XCOM franchise?
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Andre Banzai posted:Holy crap, why is Julian Gollop not working with Jake on the XCOM franchise?
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Playing again after a while. Is it just me or did this game get even buggier? I've been having units fall through the geometry, gotten "no available targets" messages when there are enemies clearly visible, and gotten infinite enemy activity loops where I didn't get those before.
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That, or putting a designer at the head of a huge team that he has never worked with before just didn't seem like a smart decision in any kind of context. For remaking XCOM, they didn't really need fresh ideas either. The concept was there already. The basic framework of the gameplay was there already. The majority of the design-work was basically giving X-COM a massive usability overhaul and streamlining the technical details of the gameplay. Getting Julian on board just for that seems a bit unnecessary anyway, since Firaxis isn't exactly known for lacking competent designers experienced with turn-based gameplay.
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I tweeted Jake Solomon a while ago asking him to do Terror From the Deep next and he actually replied with surprise that anyone wanted it. Am I alone here that I want a TFTD in the style of the new X-COM or what?
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TFTD was legitimately the most frustrating videogame experience of my life, I'm not sure if I ever want to see it again in any form. I think my first base mission (with savescumming and 100% aliens killed) literally took me 6 hours to clear, and don't even get me started on the mandatory trawler missions. The atmosphere was quite cool though, and I really liked some of the more surreal enemy designs. I would like to see some of that return.
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Yeah, the atmosphere was really cool but the game itself was actually quite bad. To be fair, I never managed to beat TFTD without cheating while I beat UFO Defense first try and was shocked how much easier and less grindy it was.
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Sanzuo posted:I tweeted Jake Solomon a while ago asking him to do Terror From the Deep next and he actually replied with surprise that anyone wanted it. Am I alone here that I want a TFTD in the style of the new X-COM or what? TFTD was awesome, but it was also the first Xcom game I owned. I played the original one before that, but it was my friend's, and so I only played when I'd be at his house. I like some of the little UI changes they made, which make playing the first one less enjoyable for me because I'm used to them. A simple one is the 'save TU for a Snapshot' toggle. In Xcom1, you have to toggle that back on for every single soldier, every turn. In TFTD, it remembers the setting between turns. It was also stupidly hard, and I had to cheat myself money to win. I assume if they made a TFTD expansion for the new Xcom, it wouldn't be quite as soul crushingly hard.
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Andre Banzai posted:Holy crap, why is Julian Gollop not working with Jake on the XCOM franchise? It's probably better to have games be the vision of one designer. Mixing in a second (or a third, if Sid's still involved) doesn't necessarily mean a better game. Presumably Firaxis wants to develop Solomon into his own brand, with his own line of games, and making him into what would be seen in many people's eyes as Gollop's understudy would probably not work with that. Anyway, I want an Apocalypse remake, not TFTD. EDIT: The long standing problem with Firaxis's system seems, to me, to be that successive 'star' designers have found themselves feeling smothered by the "Sid Meier's" banner and ended up leaving the roost. (See: Brian Reynolds, Jon Shafer, Soren Johnson...) Which leaves the studio being at risk of being a one-trick pony. I get the impression that Firaxis is deliberately breaking from this with XCOM, so that's why Solomon is being provided with a bit more space. Fangz fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Sanzuo posted:I tweeted Jake Solomon a while ago asking him to do Terror From the Deep next and he actually replied with surprise that anyone wanted it. Am I alone here that I want a TFTD in the style of the new X-COM or what? I think he also said previous that having everything be underwater kind of takes away from the close-to-home, familiar nature of the threat. Having aliens invade cities and towns and such makes it personal, no one gives two fucks about aliens taking over the atlantic. Some water levels in an expansion or some of the TFTD aliens would be sweet though.
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I'm calling it now. Waaaaaay back I said I thought that having some human collaborator enemies (a la MAJESTIC 12 for the conspiracy fans) would be neat. Someone who could show up to collect alien stuff and be a spoiler (maybe 3 way fights?) on the tactical map. You would have human and hybrid enemies, new tech, etc. Also I bet there will be a tile-based "procedural" random map system for play longevity.
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Got the game with Bioshock Infinite (or rather got Bioshock as $10 DLC for XCOM). Are any of those crippling bugs in the OP in the PC version or are they limited to the console scum?
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Prison Warden posted:Some water levels in an expansion or some of the TFTD aliens would be sweet though. Just throw out a water-themed level pack. Give us oil refineries, attacked navy/coast guard ships, beach resorts, maybe even (sanely sized) cruise ship terror maps. I just need more variety.
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They in all the versions unfortunately. For now just don't play in Ironman and save.
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The Kins posted:Here's something neat from GDC: Revision3 got Julian Gollop and (a very starstruck) Jake Solomon in the same room for the first time to discuss turn-based alien-murder simulators old and new. I've heard Gollop say this stuff before (he's getting a bit of headline space at games conferences lately, for obvious reasons) but him saying "So Microprose basically wanted me to add some Civilisation to Laser Squad" with Jake right next to him actually hammered home the point that if anyone anywhere was going to produce a decent X-COM remake, it's Firaxis. They just needed to add a bit of Laser Squad to Civilisation. e: in fact his whole attitude was wonderful. It wasn't some protective designer irritated that his baby was taken away from him, it was 'you fixed all the problems I ran into because I didn't have enough RAM to play with!' Alchenar fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Shumagorath posted:Got the game with Bioshock Infinite (or rather got Bioshock as $10 DLC for XCOM). Are any of those crippling bugs in the OP in the PC version or are they limited to the console scum? The bugs exist, but they are fairly rare and I don't think they are crippling. Sometimes glitches might cause you to lose a dude. Sometimes they might secure you a free kill. The most glitchy levels (alien base, final level) are restartable even on ironman. Most players (myself included) have gotten through ironman classic or even impossible successfully without hitting anything game ending, and had a good time doing it.
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Ravenfood posted:I disagree. Sometimes you really, really need to take out a Thin Man and don't have two grenades to do it. A shotgunner, on the other hand, will do nicely. Once you get laser rifles, I switch over to rifle-based assaults and then switch back once I get alloy cannons. Yeah, once Assaults get rapid-fire, they don't need Alloy Cannons to be useful again.
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V-Men posted:Yeah, once Assaults get rapid-fire, they don't need Alloy Cannons to be useful again. Yes, I don't really understand the fascination with Alloy Cannons. Plasma Rifle Assaults with Aggression, Bring 'Em On, and Killer Instinct do insane damage from any range. With Combat Drugs or Archangel boosted aim, they are like snipers.
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Sure but you already have Snipers Alloy Cannons give Assaults the ability to take down anything in the game in a single turn by themselves. Not that rifle Assaults aren't great too.
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Fangz posted:The bugs exist, but they are fairly rare and I don't think they are crippling. Sometimes glitches might cause you to lose a dude. Sometimes they might secure you a free kill. The most glitchy levels (alien base, final level) are restartable even on ironman. Most players (myself included) have gotten through ironman classic or even impossible successfully without hitting anything game ending, and had a good time doing it. I got through my first game with almost no bugs, but now it seems like I can't get through a single play session without hitting something. I don't get why they have to sit on a PC patch just because x-box live is terrible and who's buying DLC when the main game is still broken?
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Shumagorath posted:Got the game with Bioshock Infinite (or rather got Bioshock as $10 DLC for XCOM). Are any of those crippling bugs in the OP in the PC version or are they limited to the console scum? 'sup Bioshock pre-order bonus buddy.  I just finished my first play through on PC and didn't experience any game breaking bugs. For a free pre-order bonus, I can't believe how good this game is. After finishing Bioshock I decided to check it out, and have already put twice as many hours into it. I'm about to start my classic play through now, and I went ahead and checked Iron Man since I made it a point not to save scum in my first play through, so if anyone's got any pro-tips I'd love to hear 'em!
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