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Aureon posted:Just to be precise, the total radius is 250km, which nets an area of 196'250 km^2, which is more or less all UK. I'd say between 10 and 50 million.
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Even with medieval population densities, yeah, it's got to shy on the upper side of the 10 to 20 million range, compared to any other figure here. We didn't see the kind of squalor that would be in place if it was much denser than that, and 1 million with roughly 1700s era farming to support the population would be quite sparse over an area that large. Which suggests that the breach of the wall has just rendered unsafe the dwellings of about 1 million people. (This is working on the assumption that some people get to actually live in the rural areas). lodoubt fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Apr 9, 2013 |
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Aureon posted:Just to be precise, the total radius is 250km, which nets an area of 196'250 km^2, which is more or less all UK. For reference: 
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250+130+100 = 480 km radius => 723,823 square kilometers Russia is 23 times bigger. The US are 13 times bigger. It's roughly as big as Zambia, Chile or Burma. France is 10% smaller and Germany is only half as big. By the way: Fance is way bigger than Germany and has a population of 65 million while Germany has a population of 81 million... Zambia on the other hand has a population of 13 million. Considering that in the medieval times only a third or a fourth of those densities were possible and the fertility of the land is the same as Western Europe, I think around 20 million is a good guess.
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I'm somewhat interested in whether the humans have any recollection of when and how the giants appeared, and also how the walls were built (in the light of the danger.) The giants somewhat remind me of the god warriors from Nausicaä, maybe a similar genesis?
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Considering that the walls were built a hundred years ago, I doubt many people are alive that lived through the appearance of the Titans.
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Waffleman_ posted:Considering that the walls were built a hundred years ago, I doubt many people are alive that lived through the appearance of the Titans.
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ShardPhoenix posted:it was longer ... they just hadn't been attack for 100 years Yeah. It was this. The giants are really intriguing. And I'm also looking forward to see how the human society works in this world.
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Well, within the first two minutes or so I was thinking the adaptation looked like a good one. Just that first scene with the silence and the hand and I was optimistic. By the end I was convinced. The Titans are even freakier in motion and with sound. Creepy sods. 3D Gear is more interesting with sound and movement too. Gosh, I think this adaptation is going to be really good.  Think I'll have to start reading the manga again though. I was leaving it until there was a bit of a buffer, but there should be quite a bit now.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:By the way: Fance is way bigger than Germany and has a population of 65 million while Germany has a population of 81 million... Zambia on the other hand has a population of 13 million. Considering that in the medieval times only a third or a fourth of those densities were possible and the fertility of the land is the same as Western Europe, I think around 20 million is a good guess. Estimating populations is pretty difficult without yet knowing the setting's history. France, for example, had a population nearing 20 million during the middle ages, and then the Black Death happened and upwards of 50-70% of a population would die in an outbreak area, which drastically diminished Europe's population. So while it's certainly possible that around 20 million people live in the walls, there's also a really good chance that that isn't the case due to giant death monsters and other problems. McDragon posted:Think I'll have to start reading the manga again though. I was leaving it until there was a bit of a buffer, but there should be quite a bit now. You'll probably just end up reading the rest in one go. I think everyone does.
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Giggily posted:You'll probably just end up reading the rest in one go. I think everyone does. Funnily enough, that's exactly what happened. There was something like six or so new chapters, read the lot. It just has this way of grabbing you. Like the Titans themselves I guess. 
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ShardPhoenix posted:It sounded like it was longer that and they just hadn't been attack for 100 years. Unless I misremember. This is most likely. Even if every one of those 20 million people worked towards building those walls (which is impossible, they would need soldiers to keep the giants distracted and away from the workers) it would take longer than a century to build all of the walls. I'm thinking either they build Maria first and moved inward, or they built Sina first and moved outward. It seems odd to think that they would build all three at exactly the same time.
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I didn't see any female giants but then again the naked male giants had no genitalia. What gives?
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Housh posted:I didn't see any female giants but then again the naked male giants had no genitalia. What gives? I doubt anyone even knows if they're mammals or what.
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There are titans with plausibly female features, like the one that ate Eren's mother.
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Housh posted:I didn't see any female giants but then again the naked male giants had no genitalia. What gives? I believe it's mentioned in the manga that they've generally got male features, and the ones that look more feminine are rare cases. This could be just me projecting as well though, so it could be wrong. And yes, they lack any reproductive organs, and in the manga we've not seen anything to indicate they'd need them either.
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So, on a related note... there's a ton of mysteries in this story, and a lot of those mysteries still haven't been answered in the manga. Is it a spoiler to say "even the manga holds no answers"?
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I should think so.
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Watched the first episode, looks good so far-Zorak posted:But...  *edit* PaulC posted:gg is also pretty bad. They cocked up the very first line. MAL seems extremely one-sided on gg vs Commie, 111/120 vs. 10/57 respectively as of this post (And nothing on Deadfish.) But a lot of people on MAL are dumb, so I'm not sure how reliable these things are. Zogundar fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Apr 9, 2013 |
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We can always dream of a decent place to end it popping up in the next ~4/5 chapters of the manga.
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I'd rather them do an anime original ending than failing to wrap things up in the anime. Not everyone reads the manga.
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The Titans are Nazis. There you go, anime-endings at their finest.
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Terper posted:The Titans are Nazis. There you go, anime-endings at their finest. I hope it involves a showdown against a poorly done CG dragon!
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Stall_19 posted:I'd rather them do an anime original ending than failing to wrap things up in the anime. Not everyone reads the manga. Yeah, same. Even if it's an ending that blows, it'd still be an ending instead of an advertisement for the manga. Plus, it's not like an anime original ending would invalidate the manga.
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Srice posted:Yeah, same. Even if it's an ending that blows, it'd still be an ending instead of an advertisement for the manga. Plus, it's not like an anime original ending would invalidate the manga. What is so bad about reading manga? If the story is good, you should be interested in continuing it regardless of the medium. Getting more people to read the manga is a good thing, especially since it makes it more likely that a second anime season will actually be made, and they can actually properly wrap it up without sacrificing quality.
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Zogundar posted:MAL seems extremely one-sided on gg vs Commie, 111/120 vs. 10/57 respectively as of this post (And nothing on Deadfish.) Here is basically everything you need to know about the difference between Commie and GG: Khagan posted:I preferred the phrasing of dialogue in GG over Commie anyway. The ignominious shame indeed.
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I watched the first episode this morning. I was pretty impressed. I've heard about the manga and a couple of minor details like Misaka is awesome but seeing everything for the first time was a real treat. I'm definitely watching this each week. I'm torn on if I want to catch up in the manga first or let the series run then catch up.
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Man, the designs of the titans were amazing. They spanned the entire spectrum from the hyperrealistic (their eyes) to the completely bizarre ( that smile), with the actual human characters being just a little dot in the middle with their very clear-cut anime designs and hard contour lines. But what I loved most was that the show trusted it's audience to take in the premise of the titans without any boring exposition text or half-baked explanations. The Titans just are, end of story, deal with it, etc.
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Rexides posted:Man, the designs of the titans were amazing. They spanned the entire spectrum from the hyperrealistic (their eyes) to the completely bizarre ( I actually really like the character designs that they've released so far. This isn't spoilers since it's more or less promotional material, but when our protagonists join the military they have a unisex uniform and it turns out that Misaka is loving ripped. It's such a wonderful change of pace.
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Giggily posted:I actually really like the character designs that they've released so far. This isn't spoilers since it's more or less promotional material, but when our protagonists join the military they have a unisex uniform and it turns out that Misaka is loving ripped. It's such a wonderful change of pace. To be fair, you also see them in uniform in the opening. It doesn't seem like spoilers more than the actual premise of the series.
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It seems as though Funimation may have gotten streaming rights, after all. They've got a splash page up on their website.
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Redcrimson posted:It seems as though Funimation may have gotten streaming rights, after all. They've got a splash page up on their website. That's linking to a 404 page for me. I'd LOVE for this to be true, though.
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ProfessorProf posted:That's linking to a 404 page for me. I'd LOVE for this to be true, though. It's working for me, so it seems like it's legitimate. Does Funimation normally put out Blu-rays for any shows they stream, or are some shows streaming only? I mean, it's popular enough that I imagine it's a non-issue, but still.
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Cake Attack posted:It's working for me, so it seems like it's legitimate. Does Funimation normally put out Blu-rays for any shows they stream, or are some shows streaming only? I mean, it's popular enough that I imagine it's a non-issue, but still. Well, there are some shows they stream that they haven't released a disc version of yet, such as Fujiko.
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Working for me too. I can't think of Funimation not releasing something they have the rights to, with a dub as well. gently caress, if this true, I might have to have both a Crunchyroll and Funi subscription. 
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IShallRiseAgain posted:What is so bad about reading manga? If the story is good, you should be interested in continuing it regardless of the medium. Getting more people to read the manga is a good thing, especially since it makes it more likely that a second anime season will actually be made, and they can actually properly wrap it up without sacrificing quality. I don't have any problems with reading manga, but I'm more of an anime guy. I prefer adaptions that can stand alone on their own merits and I don't mind when liberties are taken when adapting the source material. I just feel that suddenly ending a show and telling people to read the manga is an incredibly lazy copout and I really hope it doesn't come to that (ending with an announcement for a second season would be fine, though!). Plus, with an anime I know it's gonna be a specific amount of episodes. I know this show is gonna run for what, 26 or so episodes? With manga until there's an official announcement of when it'll end, I have absolutely no idea how long it's gonna be. I have no objections to reading the manga, but I don't want to follow something that could go on for years and years; I'd rather read it when it's over. I know that a lot of people do enjoy that, but I personally tend to burn out when I try to keep up on manga. e: To elaborate a little more, I think that if say, Game of Thrones (tv) were to end this season but still accurately adapt the book, a lot of people wouldn't like being told that they should read the books if they wanted closure. VVVV let's assume this hypothetical situation also takes place in a universe where GRRM is a timely writer! Anyways an anime original ending doesn't mean that they have to start the original content in the last 2-3 episodes, they could always plan for it ahead of time like, say, the original FMA anime. Srice fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Apr 10, 2013 |
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Srice posted:e: To elaborate a little more, I think that if say, Game of Thrones (tv) were to end this season but still accurately adapt the book, a lot of people wouldn't like being told that they should read the books if they wanted closure. This is not a very good example to illustrate your point. Also I hope they don't do an original ending, and instead just set themselves up for a season two. I have no idea where they'd stop at, but I'd like them to not try and tidy things up since I feel like the manga isn't anywhere close to nearing completion.
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Giggily posted:This is not a very good example to illustrate your point. Finishing a series doesn't exclude them revisiting it afterwards as FMA Brotherhood showed us. They can do their anime only ending and then come back and remake it canonically.
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Zogundar posted:MAL seems extremely one-sided on gg vs Commie, 111/120 vs. 10/57 respectively as of this post (And nothing on Deadfish.) I wouldn't use MAL to decide my breakfast. Compare them and make your own selection based on which style you like better. I believe there's a new screenshot comparison site (what is this, the third?) opening at fansub.co as we speak though I don't know if they've added this show yet. DeadFish just takes other releases and re-encodes them to hardsubbed MP4s for people with portable devices or hardware players. I believe they are using Commie's subs for this show at present.
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