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TechnoSyndrome posted:Also if continue makes you continue on that world then what the hell does retry do?
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Monkey Fracas posted:But you're soooo bad! I think you're just reckless, though- dammit you're a loose Mario cannon who plays by his own Mario rules! I imagine because replacing sprite assets is pretty quick, and if they had them premade for mario 2 already, might as well add some more differentiation.
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You know, while I was aware of this game, I never put much effort into researching it. I decided to do that after seeing this video, and RIGHT after I looked up each of the DJ/Celebrities who replace sprites in this game (Goombas, piranha plants, and the Toads all get replaced--the Toads individually) I find This amazingly complete article all about the game. If you're at all curious about the game, I recommend checking that page out. It might be the most complete source of info on it in English. Also, I was surprised that 2 or 3 of the DJs are known in America. If you've seen either of the Major League sequels, then you've seen the guy who shows up at the end of 2-4. His comedy duo partner in 3-4 is the voice of Norimaro, everyone's favorite pervert from the overseas Marvel vs. Street Fighter games. And finally, the retainer at the end of world 5 is none other than "Beat" Takashi, who you may know as internationally acclaimed actor and filmmaker, or possibly as Japan's biggest troll, being the creator of the Takashi's Castle game show which was imported to the US and dumb-dubbed as "Most Extreme Elimination Challenge", as well as the NES game, "Takeshi's Challenge", the batshit insane NES game in which you quit your job, beat your wife, then sing in a karaoke competition before waiting irl an hour to get a treasure map to go hanggliding towards. Also, I can vouch for the coordination change between right handed joysticks and left handed d-pads being tough. Then again, I was six when I got my first NES, and I had been using an atari joystick for 4 years already.
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Apr 10, 2013 17:03
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Interesting thing about the D-pad, I learned that having the left hand control movement was implemented because games like this required more precise timing on button-presses than actual movement, in contrast to games before this. I have a sister who's a lefty, and she never adapted to using her thumbs to control the game, so she'd hold the NES controller such that left index finger and middle finger were on the D-pad, and the same right hand fingers were on the buttons. I guess now that might be an advantage to games like Dark Souls, where you have to find a way to control shoulder buttons, face buttons, and the right analog stick all the same time.
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Apr 10, 2013 17:32
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Keith should play more because he plays like a normal person who hasn't played Mario and Sonic games from start to finish a jillion times. also I'm worse than he is at these games...
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Apr 10, 2013 18:07
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I'm making a SMB sprite sheet, and here is a screen shot:
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Apr 10, 2013 18:08
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Those bricks seem really out of place.
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Apr 10, 2013 18:11
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So when is Keith's avatar getting changed to Luigi?
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Apr 10, 2013 18:13
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The Incredible Ed posted:Those bricks seem really out of place. Yes, I'm not sure what it should look like in HD. Any suggestions?
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Apr 10, 2013 18:28
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What is that even.
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Apr 10, 2013 18:49
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mkwong98 posted:Yes, I'm not sure what it should look like in HD. Any suggestions? I'm thinking flatten the color contrast on them a little, and make them a bit darker. With the bright parts in the middle of them they look like they're trying to be 3d, which is a little weird.
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Apr 10, 2013 18:52
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Fun little interjection while we're still on SMB 1 variations... If you want to try a new spin on the old classic, there's this cool flash based game out there called Super Mario Bros Crossover where it's SMB1, only with a ton of different selectable characters from different old school games, like Ryu Hayubasa, or Sonic, or Samus Aran, and here's the thing, it's not just a pallet swap when you get them (though each character has several costume changes), you get their full move set semi-unique to that character. Ever wonder what the game plays like with the Contra dudes and their many different weapon types? Or maybe you prefer to play as the tank from Blaster Master, with its wall/ceiling hugging ability and big ol' eff you gun? It's a really cool idea of a game, and I think there's unlockables for beating it with certain characters.
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Apr 10, 2013 19:03
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Choco1980 posted:Fun little interjection while we're still on SMB 1 variations... Seconding that this game is pretty loving rad, if a little odd and wonky at times. The concept is really cool though.
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Apr 10, 2013 19:24
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RentCavalier posted:Seconding that this game is pretty loving rad, if a little odd and wonky at times. The concept is really cool though. But... link already had platformer mechanics premade. Why invent new ones?
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Apr 10, 2013 22:02
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:So when is Keith's avatar getting changed to Luigi? Probably whenever Kyle's is changed to Mario.
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Apr 10, 2013 22:13
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My parents both hold the Nintendo 64 controller like a joystick and grab the analog stick with their right hand. It's really awkward looking, but they keep saying that using the thumb is more awkward.
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Apr 10, 2013 22:18
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SlothfulCobra posted:Probably whenever Kyle's is changed to Mario. Was his avatar ever Sonic?
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Apr 10, 2013 22:37
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quakster posted:Play DDP instead, but act like it's SMB2. That way everyone's happy. I'm just imagining them freaking out over the waterfalls for the entire game. 
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Apr 10, 2013 23:08
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Spintzel posted:My parents both hold the Nintendo 64 controller like a joystick and grab the analog stick with their right hand. It's really awkward looking, but they keep saying that using the thumb is more awkward. is there a way to hold the N64 controller that's NOT awkward? Because I haven't discovered it yet.
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Apr 10, 2013 23:11
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Choco1980 posted:is there a way to hold the N64 controller that's NOT awkward? Because I haven't discovered it yet. Ignore the left prong which you will never use, left hand on center prong (thumb on joystick, index finger on Z button), right hand on right prong? Only problem is if you're in a rare game that requires use of the L button. If playing Mischief Makers, hold like a regular controller and ignore the center prong.
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Apr 10, 2013 23:33
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I like the N64 controller quite a bit. If there were better padding on the analog stick it would be a lot better, though. Destroying your palm during Mario party I'd no fun.
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Apr 10, 2013 23:42
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Is it an issue of size? I rather like the N64 controller as long as the game is well-designed for it, but I also have little girly hands. The angle of holding the center and right prongs feels nice to me, but I imagine it'd be annoying if your hands are large enough to bump together in that position. Love that Z button, though. L-targeting in ports of Ocarina of Time just feels so wrong.
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Apr 10, 2013 23:49
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Was his avatar ever Sonic? Yeah, he had three different Sonic-related avatars that can be seen here.
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I recently started emulating N64 on my Wii, using a Gamecube controller, and let me tell you, it makes everything far better with its button arrangement. The only thing you have to get used to is that the C stick is NOT representing an analog in that system, but rather 4 buttons. However, it's still in the right spot and color on the controller.
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Choco1980 posted:I recently started emulating N64 on my Wii, using a Gamecube controller, and let me tell you, it makes everything far better with its button arrangement. The only thing you have to get used to is that the C stick is NOT representing an analog in that system, but rather 4 buttons. However, it's still in the right spot and color on the controller. I've been using a Wavebird for a lot of Virtual Console emulation on my Wii, and it's the best controller for N64 games. Love the poo poo out of that controller. Shame the Wii U doesn't have backwards compatibility... So much better than their classic controllers. I could always go in the reverse direction...http://www.raphnet-tech.com/products/gc_to_n64_adapter/
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Apr 11, 2013 00:19
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Patter Song posted:Ignore the left prong which you will never use, left hand on center prong (thumb on joystick, index finger on Z button), right hand on right prong? Only problem is if you're in a rare game that requires use of the L button. These two formations are exactly how Nintendo tells you to hold the controller in every instruction manual ever (which one depends on the game or game mode). The only bad things about the N64 controller are that you can't use the entire controller at once and that the control stick is a bit too hard. Which is not to say it's perfect otherwise, it's still missing plenty of things, just that there's nothing else actually bad about it.
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Apr 11, 2013 00:22
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:So when is Keith's avatar getting changed to Luigi? I keep imagining them getting avatars from the Somari 64 comic by Doctor Chef in DJB's Bootleg Games thread that was just added to the Archives. "I'ma gonna fly so high."
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Portals posted:Yeah, he had three different Sonic-related avatars that can be seen here. Haha I forgot about the SHUT UP one. Also thought Guided was the one with the Shadow avatar  More you know!
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Haha I forgot about the SHUT UP one. Also thought Guided was the one with the Shadow avatar Kyle had the Shadow one briefly. We did give it to Guided Cosine for a while, and it was her avatar until she got banned. Oh, reminiscing the good ol' days...
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TechnoSyndrome posted:All Night Nippon might have actually come out after Lost Levels, they both came out in 1986 but ANN doesn't have an exact release date. It also apparently has the letter worlds from Lost Levels, and I think Luigi controls like he does in LL instead of controlling exactly like Mario does. And as someone already pointed out, retry would take you either to the beginning of the game or the title screen. SlothfulCobra posted:Keith should play more because he plays like a normal person who hasn't played Mario and Sonic games from start to finish a jillion times. bobbertoriley posted:Kyle had the Shadow one briefly. We did give it to Guided Cosine for a while, and it was her avatar until she got banned.  ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Haha I forgot about the SHUT UP one.  Currawong posted:Is it an issue of size? I rather like the N64 controller as long as the game is well-designed for it, but I also have little girly hands. The angle of holding the center and right prongs feels nice to me, but I imagine it'd be annoying if your hands are large enough to bump together in that position. While we're mentioning people that hold the controller strangely, I once saw a friend's autistic brother playing Cruis'n World by placing his left hand on left-most prong (with the D-pad) and then reaching his thumb all the way over to analog stick. I can't take issue with his controller style, however, because he was incredible at the game.
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quakster posted:What is that even. I'm making a NES emulator which can replace the graphics with custom images up to 4x resolution. I'm using SMB as side project to test the emulator.
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Apr 11, 2013 02:18
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SlothfulCobra posted:Probably whenever Kyle's is changed to Mario.
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Apr 11, 2013 02:27
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I got a pretty good laugh from your Retrospect: Lightening Force video where you mentioned after seeing Keith play SMB the thread would never ask for him to play again. Good call. I have no problem with Keith playing, it's fun to watch your videos either way.
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I loved watching Keith play this, mostly because I just had an hour of Kyle being really good at Mario and since this was essentially the same game it made for a pretty funny contrast. Which might actually be an interesting way to do things. Kyle plays the games in their original forms, Keith fucks up on their remakes/updates. So Kyle does all the NES games while Keith does All-Stars, Kyle does Mario 64 while Keith does Mario 64 DS, etc. I don't know how well this would work in practice, though.
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19LettersLong posted:Guided Cosine wasn't actually female. "She" claimed later that "she" just said that "to win an argument with a woman." And we know it was him/her, because he/she was able to link you to the exact fanfic that got him/her banned.
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It's amazing to learn that meme-filled ROM Hacks are actually one of the oldest traditions in gaming.
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By the way, is Yoshi's Safari in the works? I honestly didn't expect a mario-based rail shooter to exist.mkwong98 posted:I'm making a NES emulator which can replace the graphics with custom images up to 4x resolution. I'm using SMB as side project to test the emulator. Well, if you need extra sprites or tiles, Open Game Art has a pretty wide variety.
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Trash Boat posted:And we know it was him/her, because he/she was able to link you to the exact fanfic that got him/her banned.
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Sillyman posted:These two formations are exactly how Nintendo tells you to hold the controller in every instruction manual ever (which one depends on the game or game mode).
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Tunicate posted:By the way, is Yoshi's Safari in the works? I honestly didn't expect a mario-based rail shooter to exist. Looks like a cool place. Thanks!
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