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Inspector_71 posted:I mean we should have paperwork for the applications and should be able to tabulate who came from where. Not where they live or anything, but numbers of documented immigrants from X country shouldn't be very hard to come up with for the government. Not where they live or anything? I have to report my address to USCIS any time I move house.
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Yes its very hard for Chechens to come to the US because of tough US laws regarding terror and Russia protesting. With only 200 Chechens in the US my guess would be that only the most well-off families are able to get people here. These guys probably had a nice life back home at the top of society and came here and were just average. I wouldn't be surprised if some of them came over with refugee status.
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Can someone clarify something for me? What was the shootout this afternoon about? I thought the guy they just apprehended was hiding in the boat the whole time. Did they spot him and then light him up in the boat?
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vickser posted:I wouldn't be surprised if some of them came over with refugee status. Sexy Randal posted:Can someone clarify something for me?
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Retro Access posted:Not where they live or anything? Yep, same here. Address and phone number.
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Xander B Coolridge posted:Has anyone in this thread even seen a Chechnyan? I have since their father was my mechanic and I helped translate another asylum application. Obligatory Handle posted:Kyrgyzstan The dad definitely identified as ethnically Chechen. Demonachizer fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Apr 20, 2013 |
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Inspector_71 posted:Somebody was just kind enough to let Shepard Smith know that "my mom loves you!"
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Yes its very hard for Chechens to come to the US because of tough US laws regarding terror and Russia protesting. With only 200 Chechens in the US my guess would be that only the most well-off families are able to get people here. These guys probably had a nice life back home at the top of society and came here and were just average. Some goon in the previous thread said that the brothers' father had actually been his car mechanic a few years ago before returning to Russia to work in Dagestan, a state bordering Chechnya, when he wasn't making enough money in the US. Apparently he was a lawyer originally before immigrating, so the story really isn't all that uncommon. It's quite usual to have people that who previously had higher education degrees in their home countries found it difficult to transfer those degrees over to the United States due to the difference in standards. This whole situation really demonstrates the tragedy that is refugees. I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn than the eldest brother was deeply embittered by his experiences in Russia and, unable to return to lash out against that society, turned on his adoptive society after viewing it as equally corrupt as that of Russia. 
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Sexy Randal posted:Can someone clarify something for me?
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Does anyone have that jpg (in English language) made by what seems to be  Russians that basically said, "see, told you these Chechnyans were terrorists ?" It was around the prior thread sometime around 6 am.
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Apr 20, 2013 05:46
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Some "expert" on CNN just said there were hundreds of thousands of Chechen refugees in America. Nice.
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the kawaiiest posted:Yep, same here. Address and phone number. Not me but I'm United Kingdom so I dunno what's up with you guys. I don't even change my drivers license anymore. E: phone too? Wtf and I live in Texas too.
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Samurai Sanders posted:An article before said that there are only like 200 Chechen immigrants in the US (and they almost all live right around there), are there more of them in other countries? I used to live about a mile from where they caught the guy and all I knew was that the place was very Armenian numbers-wise, iirc it was the highest-density population for Armenian folks. There was a museum there and everything. Didn't know about the Chechen demo tho
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Apr 20, 2013 05:48
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Wildlife Analysis posted:Some "expert" on CNN just said there were hundreds of thousands of Chechen refugees in America. Nice.
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Crasscrab posted:Some goon in the previous thread said that the brothers' father had actually been his car mechanic a few years ago before returning to Russia to work in Dagestan, a state bordering Chechnya, when he wasn't making enough money in the US. Apparently he was a lawyer originally before immigrating, so the story really isn't all that uncommon. It's quite usual to have people that who previously had higher education degrees in their home countries found it difficult to transfer those degrees over to the United States due to the difference in standards. I was that goon. He was a really great mechanic and super super cheap. We actually overpaid normally because his labor rate was too low. Only issue is that I would have to help out since it was just him so sometimes I would have to get the parts or give him an assist. He was kind of a weird dude in some ways though. A little distant I guess or like not overly friendly but that is kind of common for people out of the North Caucasus in my experience. I know the personal story of one dude because I helped translate his asylum docs and I don't want to go into details but what he went through would destroy me as a person. Demonachizer fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Apr 20, 2013 |
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jaegerx posted:Not me but I'm United Kingdom so I dunno what's up with you guys. I don't even change my drivers license anymore. All immigrants are required to notify the USCIS of any changes of address/phone number. So they know exactly where we all live. I'm pretty sure you're supposed to notify them too. It doesn't matter where you're from at all.
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Americans with Chechnyans in.. in. syria? uhhhh what https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm7j5bHBfxY
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Wildlife Analysis posted:Some "expert" on CNN just said there were hundreds of thousands of Chechen refugees in America. Nice. Thanks, CNN. Thanks for telling us about how the United States, a nation of immigrants and refugees, has thousands of refugees from an area of the world that has seen substantial internal conflict over the recent decades. I'm sure they're all eager to come here because they hate America and not because they want to escape a land ravaged by violence.
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Crasscrab posted:It's quite usual to have people that who previously had higher education degrees in their home countries found it difficult to transfer those degrees over to the United States due to the difference in standards. This isn't so much about standards as it is about the fact that a law degree from country A generally doesn't even count as a degree in country B at all.
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Now that this is all over I feel like it's only a matter of time before "got an open mic like the BPD" becomes a nerdcore (or maybe even mainstream rap) lyric. Same goes for that light it up with the night sun line. That one was metal as all get out though.
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Samurai Sanders posted:So a few tenths of Chechnya's population lives in the US? Ok, CNN guy. Apparently they just couldn't resist our freedom and liberty.
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JesusSinfulHands posted:Does anyone have that jpg (in English language) made by what seems to be 
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Misandrist Duck posted:You are absolutely right and there is going to be a serious conversation among journalists in the weeks to come about the ethics and responsibilities of sharing what they hear over police scanners that will hopefully be picked up by other people who use social media. No there won't. The discussion will be about how to maximize the hype without actually saying anything. It's a good thing the internet is around at the same time for profit journalism is making the last few rounds in the drain.
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flavor posted:This isn't so much about standards as it is about the fact that a law degree from country A generally doesn't even count as a degree in country B at all. Yea even here you have to take another BAR exam if you switch states because the laws are different. A lawyer from another country wouldn't really transfer at all.
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flavor posted:This isn't so much about standards as it is about the fact that a law degree from country A generally doesn't even count as a degree in country B at all. That's what I meant.  Wrong phrasing.
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Spoeank posted:Same goes for that light it up with the night sun line. That one was metal as all get out though. What was this line? I've listened to a helluva lot of police radio over the past 24 hours but don't remember hearing this one.
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the kawaiiest posted:All immigrants are required to notify the USCIS of any changes of address/phone number. So they know exactly where we all live. Apparently it's not enforced very well since I've been moving for years without it. Pre/post 9/11. Then again I'm white with a Texas accent(yes racial profiling sucks).
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Apr 20, 2013 05:54
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Falls Down Stairs posted:What was this line? I've listened to a helluva lot of police radio over the past 24 hours but don't remember hearing this one. It was in reference to the illumination device that the police helicopter had attached; they wanted the pilot to light up the boat from above for better visibility.
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Yeah, but he asked where they were born. Which from everything I've read was Kyrgyzstan.
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Oh Russia, never change you lovely little diamond.
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Falls Down Stairs posted:What was this line? I've listened to a helluva lot of police radio over the past 24 hours but don't remember hearing this one. Light him up with the Nightsun, by which they likely mean this thing
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Obligatory Handle posted:Yeah, but he asked where they were born. Which from everything I've read was Kyrgyzstan. I read somewhere that the family fled Chechnya because of the war.
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Crasscrab posted:Thanks, CNN. Thanks for telling us about how the United States, a nation of immigrants and refugees, has thousands of refugees from an area of the world that has seen substantial internal conflict over the recent decades. I'm sure they're all eager to come here because they hate America and not because they want to escape a land ravaged by violence. You should probably just stop watching 24 hour news channels altogether. I know this debacle has turned me off them forever. 
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Spoeank posted:Now that this is all over I feel like it's only a matter of time before "got an open mic like the BPD" becomes a nerdcore (or maybe even mainstream rap) lyric. A more obvious bar would be You leave me wretchin You marathon bombing Like you were a Chechen
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Casimir Radon posted:Oh Russia, never change you lovely little diamond.
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Lt. Dans Legs posted:You should probably just stop watching 24 hour news channels altogether. I know this debacle has turned me off them forever. I've always had a distaste for cable news, but all of this has really just put back into perspective how hosed they all are.
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Obligatory Handle posted:Yeah, but he asked where they were born. Which from everything I've read was Kyrgyzstan. I am pretty sure that they left the North Caucasus to Kyrgyzstan but don't quote me on it. I know that the dad really wanted to go back and try to get a life again there and was hoping to bring the whole family back once they finished their education. I might be fuzzy on some details because it isn't like we were bosom buddies. One time while we were there my 15 year old daughter hung out with his grand son watching cartoons. A really nice kid and you could tell the dude really loved him a lot. Tender etc.
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Duke Chin posted:As with most things from that area (and hell, a lot of places in this world), both sides were terrible to each other. Just, mind-blowingly terrible. It's easy to lose your head reading up on the conflicts there.
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Crasscrab posted:Some goon in the previous thread said that the brothers' father had actually been his car mechanic a few years ago before returning to Russia to work in Dagestan, a state bordering Chechnya, when he wasn't making enough money in the US. Apparently he was a lawyer originally before immigrating, so the story really isn't all that uncommon. It's quite usual to have people that who previously had higher education degrees in their home countries found it difficult to transfer those degrees over to the United States due to the difference in standards. It really depends on the degree. Law will pretty much never transfer anywhere, even between states in our own country. My doctor has a degree from Guadalajara that the US is apparently honoring.
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