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peter gabriel posted:The front page of their site has gently caress all to do with this imaginary march launch. I agree it's definitely misleading. I think what Aweful is trying to say is that if you are go to that site as a prospective OUYA customer to read up about the features, then what's relevant to you isn't what the OUYA has now, it's what the OUYA will have in June when you can actually get one. So I think he's saying that if OUYA can deliver the extended games storage by June, then it's alright to promise that feature to customers who can get an OUYA until June anyway. I can see his reasoning, but I can see your argument, too. It's all a very bungled & unclear situation that would have been better served by OUYA being honest about the March release being a beta version. If they had labeled the current release as a beta, they could then say that the full version will have extended storage and it probably would have been okay. But since they originally said the March release was the full version, only to backpedal afterwards, now everything's all screwed up. They've put out so many different versions of the truth that pretty much anything they say is sure to conflict with something else they've said. This new shipment update wasn't a big step forward, either. I would say it's marginally better... but, it's like 6th grade instead of 4th grade. Even if it's not as bad as the first, you can't really say it's an "improvement". Ah, well.
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XboxPants posted:I agree it's definitely misleading. I think what Aweful is trying to say is that if you are go to that site as a prospective OUYA customer to read up about the features, then what's relevant to you isn't what the OUYA has now, it's what the OUYA will have in June when you can actually get one. So I think he's saying that if OUYA can deliver the extended games storage by June, then it's alright to promise that feature to customers who can get an OUYA until June anyway. The problem here is OUYA has no idea what they can or can't deliver.
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Apr 20, 2013 03:59
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Aweful Dreams posted:I always edit what I post a dozen times, I never get out what I really mean on the first try Yeah, it's just like that time Sony promised a bunch of features that weren't in the PS3, then pretended the launch date was 6 months later and included the features it didn't have before.
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Apr 20, 2013 04:04
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JazzFlight posted:I love it, I'm just searching around for any latest OUYA videos on YouTube and I find another unboxing video. And of course, at 1:09 the fun happens when it's opened and it's revealed that the right faceplate is just flopping around in the box. I lost it when the fucker couldn't get his scissors to cut the tape. THESE are the kinds of people buying OHFUCKYEAHS!
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Apr 20, 2013 04:10
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kloa posted:I lost it when the fucker couldn't get his scissors to cut the tape. Yeah I was going to say I was horribly uncomfortable watching him fumble with those scissors. Like how loving broken do you have to be to gently caress up "cut tape so you can open box"?
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Apr 20, 2013 05:20
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How long does it take to ship something directly off the line in China to the US? Even if that incredibly scientific chart is accurate won't a lot of backers not be receiving their OUYAS until well into June or even July?
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Apr 20, 2013 05:40
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robot roll call posted:How long does it take to ship something directly off the line in China to the US? Even if that incredibly scientific chart is accurate won't a lot of backers not be receiving their OUYAS until well into June or even July? It really depends on whether you do it by air freight or by ship. Air is pretty quick but shipping can obviously take a few weeks. Honestly when they're already way behind it'd be dumb to try and make it up by splashing their tiny cash reserve on air freight so I'd expect that's what they're going to do.
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Apr 20, 2013 05:45
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JazzFlight posted:I love it, I'm just searching around for any latest OUYA videos on YouTube and I find another unboxing video. And of course, at 1:09 the fun happens when it's opened and it's revealed that the right faceplate is just flopping around in the box. Sweet plain brown packaging. Is it an OHNODONTTOUCHMYNONOSPOT or is it a Tenga Egg inside?
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Apr 20, 2013 05:58
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It's literally a shoebox with a plastic mold inside, jesus christ.
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Apr 20, 2013 06:06
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Lt. Dans Legs posted:It's literally a shoebox with a plastic mold inside, jesus christ.
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Apr 20, 2013 06:08
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gschmidl posted:This entire thread is where it comes from and is equally hilarious. I hope he puts his game up on XBLA and realizes it's actually less restrictive than the ALAN JACKSON THE GREATEST HITS COLLECTION. It's funny seeing xboxpants posting on other forums because he kind of looks like Gail Bedeker from his profile so every time I read his comments I imagine them in a Gail voice. circ dick soleil fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Apr 20, 2013 |
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JazzFlight posted:I love it, I'm just searching around for any latest OUYA videos on YouTube and I find another unboxing video. And of course, at 1:09 the fun happens when it's opened and it's revealed that the right faceplate is just flopping around in the box. Probably the worst possible video he could have shot. No narration, embarrassing use of scissors, broken product.
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Apr 20, 2013 06:28
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Saint Darwin posted:Probably the worst possible video he could have shot. No narration, embarrassing use of scissors, broken product. The watch alarm going off was a nice touch as well.
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Rudager posted:What the gently caress?  edit: VVVV or work for one I dunno. You've dropped "hints" in the past but I honestly don't care enough to dig through your post history to find it so I'll just say I'm wrong. double edit: I actually did go look and I'm totally wrong. My apologies. Calipark fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Apr 20, 2013 |
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Apr 20, 2013 07:07
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Jon93 posted:Remember: This person is supposedly in charge of an entire games studio. Dunno where you heard that, it isn't true...
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Apr 20, 2013 07:10
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Aweful Dreams posted:Dunno where you heard that, it isn't true... What is true, however, is that you make no loving sense. What the hell is that sentence supposed to mean? Please enlighten me, because I cannot wrap my head around it for the life of me.
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Alabaster White posted:What is true, however, is that you make no loving sense. What the hell is that sentence supposed to mean? Please enlighten me, because I cannot wrap my head around it for the life of me. Probably "[I] dunno where you heard that; it isn't true." Does that make more sense? A lot of people drop the subject at the beginning of sentences when they're being casual. I do it a lot, especially when typing. It's not proper grammar, of course, so I can see how it could be annoying or confusing. If that was your problem, I wouldn't hold it against you. edit: I thought of a good example of this phenomenon. The beginning of the song "My Fat Baby" features six sentences in a row that drop the subject. "Warm out today. Warm yesterday. Even warmer today. Met her on my CB. Said her name was Mimi. Sounded like an angel come to earth." XboxPants fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Apr 20, 2013 |
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Apr 20, 2013 10:47
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 I was talking about the original quote, you moron.Aweful Dreams posted:It says the DS4 incorporates all this stuff, it doesn't say it *will* incorporate it. That doesn't mean they are lying or being shady or trying to trick anyone.
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To make up for that weird nonsense, have some OUYA porn: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...cc_id=VUI-OUYA1 So apparently OUYA is made by Pegatron. I don't think you can say OUYAs are getting build by some rinky-dink lovely operation anymore. XboxPants fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Apr 20, 2013 |
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Alabaster White posted:
I thought i already answered this...someone was saying that the Ouya website claims that the system supports external storage, but it currently does not, so they were obviously lieing bastards trying to trick people, and that's why he really hated the company. I was giving an example of how ALL system manufacturers talk about features in their upcoming systems as existing in the present, though they don't exist yet, and they aren't ever seen as lieing or trying to trick people by doing so. The Ouya folks have really spun some things hard, but not in this specific case - they were just listing system features (on the page designed for new sales, technically), and of course the fact that the system didn't launch feature-complete yet is old news. Aweful Dreams fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Apr 20, 2013 |
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Aweful Dreams posted:I thought i already answered this...someone was saying that the Ouya website claims that the system supports external storage, but it currently does not, so they were obviously lieing bastards trying to trick people, and that's why he really hated the company. I was giving an example of how ALL system manufacturers talk about features in their upcoming systems as existing in the present, though they don't exist yet, and they aren't ever seen as lieing or trying to trick people by doing so. The Ouya folks have really spun some things hard, but not in this specific case - they were just listing system features (on the page designed for new sales, they didnt promise that feature during the Kickstarter), and of course the fact that the system isn't feature-complete yet is old news. So screwing over your early backers, who incidentally make up a significant portion of the people developing games for your marketplace, and who quite literally bankrolled your development and manufacturing with a feature-incomplete and inferior beta version of the console is an acceptable business practice to you?
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Breetai posted:So screwing over your early backers, who incidentally make up a significant portion of the people developing games for your marketplace, and who quite literally bankrolled your development and manufacturing with a feature-incomplete and inferior beta version of the console is an acceptable business practice to you? Nope. This too I already said - when they realized in early February that they wouldn't have all of the software features ready for the promised March launch, they should have announced this fact to the Kickstarter backers, and held a poll asking if they would rather get the unit early but with incomplete software, or wait a month or two and get it feature-complete. As a Kickstarter project most backers would have been understanding of a delay, as long as they communicated it correctly (I'm betting most people would have responded "get it early but incomplete", but that doesn't mean they should have just assumed that and suddenly started talking about it as a sneak preview as if it were that all along). The Ouya company's biggest problem is communication (followed by being overly optimistic, but I can't come down too hard on them for that, because I too have that problem). Aweful Dreams fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Apr 20, 2013 |
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Breetai posted:So screwing over your early backers, who incidentally make up a significant portion of the people developing games for your marketplace, and who quite literally bankrolled your development and manufacturing with a feature-incomplete and inferior beta version of the console is an acceptable business practice to you? Nobody said it was, jeez.
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Aweful Dreams posted:I thought i already answered this...someone was saying that the Ouya website claims that the system supports external storage, but it currently does not, so they were obviously lieing bastards trying to trick people, and that's why he really hated the company. I was giving an example of how ALL system manufacturers talk about features in their upcoming systems as existing in the present, though they don't exist yet, and they aren't ever seen as lieing or trying to trick people by doing so. The Ouya folks have really spun some things hard, but not in this specific case - they were just listing system features (on the page designed for new sales, technically), and of course the fact that the system didn't launch feature-complete yet is old news. Jesus Christ are you Xboxpants even more pedantic cousin or something?
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Lt. Dans Legs posted:It's literally a shoebox with a plastic mold inside, jesus christ. Holy poo poo. That is really loving pathetic. They can't wrap the controller and JOHNNYODUYA in foam like every company? And I love how unsafe he is with the scissors. 
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Aweful Dreams posted:I thought i already answered this...someone was saying that the Ouya website claims that the system supports external storage, but it currently does not, so they were obviously lieing bastards trying to trick people, and that's why he really hated the company. I was giving an example of how ALL system manufacturers talk about features in their upcoming systems as existing in the present, though they don't exist yet, and they aren't ever seen as lieing or trying to trick people by doing so. The Ouya folks have really spun some things hard, but not in this specific case - they were just listing system features (on the page designed for new sales, technically), and of course the fact that the system didn't launch feature-complete yet is old news. In comparison to the Ouya which is still being designed despite having already started shipping what were supposed to be the final system, and that use of the present tense is a giant loving lie that you can verify by owning an Ouya.
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Cherokee Jack posted:Holy poo poo. That is really loving pathetic. They can't wrap the controller and JOHNNYODUYA in foam like every company?
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Due to the Ouya's demographic 90% of all the backer consoles will have unboxing videos on YouTube. e: And only 10% of those will be able to use scissors.
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Saint Darwin posted:Probably the worst possible video he could have shot. No narration, embarrassing use of scissors, broken product. He skeedattled right past emabarassing and fully abandoned chimpanzee level tool use and resorted to frustrated finger scraping. Good god. I expect the lack of naration was probably a good thing, derpa derpa derp and Sylvestor cat slobbers would have ruined that pro dismantle job.
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The makers of Papo & Yo are jumping from PSN and Steam to Ouya, apparently with an exclusivity contract. http://kotaku.com/here-s-what-s-coming-next-from-the-creators-of-papo-y-476284296 I wonder if they will get paid back in joypad faceplates, ouya stock options or in kickstarter refunds. In any case I'd be happy if all art games go to the ouya, so that I have more virtual room to play real games on the Big 3. Rudager posted:Jesus Christ are you Xboxpants even more pedantic cousin or something?       Everyone should be free to be overly optimistic about the Ouya. 
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XboxPants posted:So apparently OUYA is made by Pegatron. I don't think you can say OUYAs are getting build by some rinky-dink lovely operation anymore. Nah, just designed by one. 
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Agronox posted:Nah, just designed by one. Do we actually have any idea who designed the electronics? That could have been Pegatron, too. It sure wasn't Julie Uhrman.
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XboxPants posted:To make up for that weird nonsense, have some OUYA porn: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...cc_id=VUI-OUYA1 It would probably be better if it was designed by a company that could get the product out at its scheduled time.
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XboxPants posted:To make up for that weird nonsense, have some OUYA porn: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...cc_id=VUI-OUYA1 Oh yeah, Pegatron. How much do you know about them bro? You know their factory exploded injuring a bunch of people pretty recently, right? Or did you just look up their corporate website? The funny part is that the explosion took place at the aluminum polishing part for the cases for Apple. Hope nobody gets their face melted off making an OUYA, that'd be real sad.  XboxPants posted:Do we actually have any idea who designed the electronics? That could have been Pegatron, too. It sure wasn't Julie Uhrman. HannStar Board designed the board, we already established this earlier. Uncle Jam fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Apr 20, 2013 |
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Uncle Jam posted:Oh yeah, Pegatron. How much do you know about them bro? You know their factory exploded injuring a bunch of people pretty recently, right? Yeah, I figured someone would bring that up. Certainly sounds bad. Apple is still trusting them to manufacture the majority of their iPad minis though. And that contract went through a year after the explosion. Aren't they just generally a pretty massive company that you can't just write off because of something like that? I can't tell if they still do, but apparently they've manufactured both 360 and PS3 in the past? And when a rumor comes up that they & Foxconn would be building the PS4, people treat that as a realistic prospect? (I'm not saying the rumor holds any weight, just that people would think of them as a realistic choice for PS4 production)
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What the gently caress is a Pegatron. I'm envisioning Megatron with a Peggy Bundy hairdo, eating bonbons and asking Optimus for shopping money.
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raditts posted:What the gently caress is a Pegatron. Uncle Jam will correct me/add detail, but I believe that Asus basically spun off their OEM wing into an independent company and that's Pegatron. They make various poo poo for lots of people, as well as manage the ASRock brand.
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XboxPants posted:Yeah, I figured someone would bring that up. Certainly sounds bad. Apple is still trusting them to manufacture the majority of their iPad minis though. And that contract went through a year after the explosion. People use them because their cost is so low, not because its good. The manufacturing of the Xbox 360 was not successful either by any means. If they only do the case and assembly of the large components then it doesn't matter who does it because there is very little to go wrong at that point. Just whoever costs the least. Probably the biggest issue of OUYA using these guys is that with Apple and Sony there they have absolutely no control when an ouya actually gets loving produced. Those factories are not going to endanger their relationships with their money makers for the OUYA.
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Uncle Jam posted:People use them because their cost is so low, not because its good. The manufacturing of the Xbox 360 was not successful either by any means. Pegatron makes more products than just Apple/Sony/other big name products. They do a ton of random medium and small products too. Is building 100k OUYAs really gonna put such a serious dent in their operations that it's something Peggy even has to worry about?
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XboxPants posted:Pegatron makes more products than just Apple/Sony/other big name products. They do a ton of random medium and small products too. Is building 100k OUYAs really gonna put such a serious dent in their operations that it's something Peggy even has to worry about? Well, so far they've built 37...
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