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Tea partiers speak a different language. It uses english words but changes the meanings. It's basically slang. In their language "socialist, Muslim, nazi, communist, pacifist, gay, weak, and liberal" are all synonyms which mean "evil, bad, dumb, etc." while "Christian, conservative, family, traditional, guns, military, Reagan, and the bible" are also all synonyms for which mean "good, comfort, safe, etc." I mean from this language it makes sense that they don't like us, when they read our words it's translated to them as "evil bad I love genocide murder your family kill all." I bet this isn't actually unique in even the slightest, I'm just noticing it with them when it probably happens everywhere. Maybe if we learn their language we can communicate with them!
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Dr. Notadoctor posted:Tea partiers speak a different language. It uses english words but changes the meanings. It's basically slang. In their language "socialist, Muslim, nazi, communist, pacifist, gay, weak, and liberal" are all synonyms which mean "evil, bad, dumb, etc." while "Christian, conservative, family, traditional, guns, military, Reagan, and the bible" are also all synonyms for which mean "good, comfort, safe, etc." It's not our fault they were poorly educated and indoctrinated into evangelical Christianity. I honestly believe that the biggest problem we face is that a cornerstone of conservative ideology is teaching each other to immediately knee-jerk reject any idea they don't already agree with. As soon as they read or hear something they don't agree with, they instantaneously attack it or dismiss it as objectively false without so much as a second thought. I can't think of any way to get around that barrier, especially when they love to project their bullheadedness onto us.
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The TPC focuses upon its crystal ball to predict the political landscape of The Future: Unclear in the image below, but the WND article linked discusses a poll in which "the No. 2 position was Michelle Obama, with support from 19 percent of the respondents."  Ex-Governor and failed VP candidate Sarah Palin for Senator of Alaska!  Certainly these are reasonable, not-at-all-crazy possibilities.
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Dr. Notadoctor posted:Tea partiers speak a different language. The meaning of truth to them is "impulsive gut feelings that can't possibly be wrong." Someone with a faulty gut mechanism is known as a "Lib." Someone without a gut mechanism at all (and thus is a savage heathen that wants to kill people who have working guts) is known as a Muslim. jmnmu fucked around with this message at 22:49 on May 1, 2013 |
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May 1, 2013 22:46
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SpookyTurtle posted:The TPC focuses upon its crystal ball to predict the political landscape of The Future: Sarah Palin can't run because the media are meanies 
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May 1, 2013 22:50
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Von Bek posted:Sarah Palin can't run because the media are meanies I also love them constantly referencing ACORN even though they went defunct 3 years ago because of the Breitbart video which was proven to be entirely false and the victims were awarded a 6 figure settlement.
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May 1, 2013 23:04
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Elephant Ambush posted:It's not our fault they were poorly educated and indoctrinated into evangelical Christianity. I honestly believe that the biggest problem we face is that a cornerstone of conservative ideology is teaching each other to immediately knee-jerk reject any idea they don't already agree with. As soon as they read or hear something they don't agree with, they instantaneously attack it or dismiss it as objectively false without so much as a second thought. I can't think of any way to get around that barrier, especially when they love to project their bullheadedness onto us. I think this is most apparent when the issue of global warming comes around. Their position boils down to “we are banking everything on the possibility that the scientists are either lying or wrong”. They refuse to even entertain the thought that the scientists could be correct. It is beyond the realm of possible scenarios for them. This is why I think they refuse to even acknowledge the stakes. If we assume the scientists are right, whether or not they actually are, we end up with a clearer and nicer world to live on. If we assume the scientists are wrong and do nothing we get to live on a dirty poo poo hole planet and if it turns out they were right after all we all loving die. If I had to guess why they are like this I would assume they see all issues as a slippery slope. If the liberals are correct about a single issue then it will steam roll into complete ideological defeat.
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May 1, 2013 23:05
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SpookyTurtle posted:The TPC focuses upon its crystal ball to predict the political landscape of The Future: Haha, get Palin back in politics? No way.
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May 1, 2013 23:08
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SwitchbladeKult posted:
No, its that they think the second coming is like, any loving day now, and that gawd is not going to let anything bad happen to his favorite planet. It also can be justified in that they suspect that once the worldly resources are used up, jesus will come a calling. Its like getting a tin of cookies from your relatives and then finding out they're coming over, you want to finish it off quickly so they feel you appreciated their gift. So either its that they believe that god will save us all (except for those loving liberals) or that in order for the world to end and justice to reign supreme, it is their christianly duty to tell everybody who doesn't believe 'gently caress you, we're destroying this planet because jesus'.
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May 1, 2013 23:11
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SwitchbladeKult posted:If I had to guess why they are like this I would assume they see all issues as a slippery slope. If the liberals are correct about a single issue then it will steam roll into complete ideological defeat. There is no personal logic to it at all. They just internalize (and are constantly reinforced by) mass media information. But it does encourage obstinate opinions as well. As long as the energy companies buy advertising on the news networks (or make generous public broadcasting donations) the jury will remain out on climate change in the court of public opinion. My big fear is when things really start crashing down the dominant narrative will become 'divine retribution against gay liberals' since 'we're stubborn and this is our own fault' doesn't sell products.
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McDowell posted:My big fear is when things really start crashing down the dominant narrative will become 'divine retribution against gay liberals' since 'we're stubborn and this is our own fault' doesn't sell products. Wikipedia posted:Less than two weeks after Hurricane Katrina killed 1,836 people, Robertson implied on the September 12th broadcast of The 700 Club that the storm was God's punishment in response to America's abortion policy. He suggested that September 11 and the disaster in New Orleans "could... be connected in some way". Its already started. Katrina couldn't have been supercharged by our gross abuse of the environment and all those stupid things that those hippies cry out about, its all about the loving fetuses. WHEN WILL THOSE STUPID LIBERALS LEARN?! Edit: Also it couldn't have possibly been that the levy builders were shiftless corporate fuckers who skimped on supplies and half assed the job to try and make a quick buck. FETUSES! E-Tank fucked around with this message at 23:24 on May 1, 2013 |
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May 1, 2013 23:21
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SwitchbladeKult posted:I think this is most apparent when the issue of global warming comes around. Their position boils down to “we are banking everything on the possibility that the scientists are either lying or wrong”. They refuse to even entertain the thought that the scientists could be correct. It is beyond the realm of possible scenarios for them. This is why I think they refuse to even acknowledge the stakes. If we assume the scientists are right, whether or not they actually are, we end up with a clearer and nicer world to live on. If we assume the scientists are wrong and do nothing we get to live on a dirty poo poo hole planet and if it turns out they were right after all we all loving die. Or both. There's always the option that it's both.
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So out of curiosity, any more idiots calling out that they should totally assassinate Obama? I'm sure there are, but I haven't seen any pictures posted of them lately, or did Tim finally get that outright calling for the murder of others that disagree with your beliefs is a bad thing? Edit: I would like to clarify to all the secret service agents out there, I am not trying to get the president assassinated. I wanted to know if any idiots on TPC had been claiming that. E-Tank fucked around with this message at 23:40 on May 1, 2013 |
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May 1, 2013 23:31
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E-Tank posted:No, its that they think the second coming is like, any loving day now, and that gawd is not going to let anything bad happen to his favorite planet. It also can be justified in that they suspect that once the worldly resources are used up, jesus will come a calling. Its like getting a tin of cookies from your relatives and then finding out they're coming over, you want to finish it off quickly so they feel you appreciated their gift. Pretty much this. Its terrible because they wish to spite everyone else and everyone else's religion for the sake of theirs. For example, I asked someone once who had a big sticker with 'In GOD we trust' on their bumper, and I asked whose god? They of course said theirs and I asked how they knew... ...they couldn't really answer, said something about being founded a Christian nation. I pointed out 'In God We Trust' was added in 1949, and he just got flustered. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 23:36 on May 1, 2013 |
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May 1, 2013 23:31
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Von Bek posted:Sarah Palin can't run because the media are meanies I would like to see her try, just so we can run her out of office for a second time
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CommieGIR posted:Pretty much this. Its terrible because they wish to spite everyone else and everyone else's religion for the sake of theirs. I forgot slavery. 
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May 1, 2013 23:58
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If they think Palin will stop "writing" lovely books and earning millions every year to go back into politics they are stupider than I thought.
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romeo x-ray posted:I forgot slavery.  Yes, god gathered the Pilgrims, who then went on to sieze land that wasn't theirs, and generally be intolerant of all other religions (especially the Protestants)
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AE-35 Unit posted:All I know is that when I left the South it was a whole lot easier to ignore these kinds of ideas and more easily approach things critically since that reinforcement wasn't constantly there anymore. It can come as quite the shock that the rest of the world isn't what we were taught it was. As a godless heathen myself, I welcome you. Now you must recruit more godless heathens to join us. Bahahahahaha
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AE-35 Unit posted:All I know is that when I left the South it was a whole lot easier to ignore these kinds of ideas and more easily approach things critically since that reinforcement wasn't constantly there anymore. It can come as quite the shock that the rest of the world isn't what we were taught it was. Shh, shh, its okay. You're free now. You're not trapped with those asswipes anymore. 
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Goddammit...my slightly dimwitted cousin just sent me that Boston bombing conspiracy video saying, "You're a smart guy, what do you think?" Clearly, he expected me to validate his conspiracy theory, which I did not. Edit: AHAHAHAHAHA! I just found out that that private security firm they're all accusing of doing the bombing was founded by that sniper who was shot by his friend at the gun range, the one who they're all pissed that Obama didn't fly the flag at half staff for. McCloud24 fucked around with this message at 00:27 on May 2, 2013 |
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May 2, 2013 00:22
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SpookyTurtle posted:The TPC focuses upon its crystal ball to predict the political landscape of The Future: Ahahaha, Russian diplomat. That was Medvedev he was talking to, right? And he was saying what any president in an election year would say, that he can't do anything drastic until after the election when the media gets distracted. Also, quote:WE are nuts, for allowing that mudslime POS to remain in the white mosque!!!!!!!!! Is some great material.
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McCloud24 posted:Goddammit...my slightly dimwitted cousin just sent me that Boston bombing conspiracy video saying, "You're a smart guy, what do you think?" Clearly, he expected me to validate his conspiracy theory, which I did not. It's been said before repeatedly, but I love how the evil overlords the conspiracy theorists envision are simultaneously all-powerful, all-seeing evil geniuses, and completely loving incompetent morons. They literally think that a man sent to secretly plant a bomb, in public, in order to orchestrate a 'false flag' attack that is presumably supposed to remain secret, would just go ahead and openly wear the logo of the organization he works for while he does this dirty deed. And not wear it just anywhere, no, he's got it plastered right there on his loving forehead where it's plainly visible. The conspiracy theorists are kinda screwed both ways - either the Boston Bombing 'false flag' conspiracy theory is a load of bullshit, or, if it's correct, the New World Order are so loving retarded that there is no possible way they will ever take over the world.
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Mister Bates posted:It's been said before repeatedly, but I love how the evil overlords the conspiracy theorists envision are simultaneously all-powerful, all-seeing evil geniuses, and completely loving incompetent morons. They literally think that a man sent to secretly plant a bomb, in public, in order to orchestrate a 'false flag' attack that is presumably supposed to remain secret, would just go ahead and openly wear the logo of the organization he works for while he does this dirty deed. And not wear it just anywhere, no, he's got it plastered right there on his loving forehead where it's plainly visible. Just like how 9/11 truthers keep on saying how these things totally add up and prove that there's a global conspiracy. Then if they're so incompetent to pull off this job without being able to keep evidence from showing up, why not simply set off a bunch of bombs in stadiums all over the country and then declare it an act of terror?
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The United States is pretty cool in that it was the first political revolution based on Enlightenment ideas of rationality, science, and free will. Like the Arab Spring it triggered Revolutions in France, Poland (Kościuszko), and South America (Bolivar). The problem is most people are pretty stupid and there is no uber-rational worldview. But one day that can change with modern information technology, and as a living document the Constitution can integrate IT for a better citizenry (the CIA factbook and the opportunity for old codger congressman to run their mouths on Twitter are good places to start). The Constitution mandates a Postal Service already. What is the Mail but a way of sending and receiving recorded information? The problem is that it is in some people's interests to feed simple messages to the superstitious, gullible, and misanthropic.
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romeo x-ray posted:I forgot slavery. Sandweed posted:If they think Palin will stop "writing" lovely books and earning millions every year to go back into politics they are stupider than I thought.
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Hazo posted:she quit her job as a loving governor when she found out she could make more money being a media figure! Nuh uh, she quit her job because she realized that she couldn't affect any changes in the LIEberal system. Her making more money is just incidental.
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Sir Tonk posted:mudslime Is that an anti Muslim thing, or is it a code word for mudblood? 
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E-Tank posted:Nuh uh, she quit her job because she realized that she couldn't affect any changes in the LIEberal system. Her making more money is just incidental.
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plaguedoctor posted:Is that an anti Muslim thing, or is it a code word for mudblood? The former. It's like Moose-limb, another favorite.
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Hazo posted:...Man, I bet a bunch of tea partiers actually believe this too. Even if it was true, what kind of message is that? "Hey little girl, if you try hard enough one day you can be elected to one of the most powerful government positions in the world... unless it gets too hard, in which case you should just quit. Nobody ever got famous by fighting adversity." No matter how you look at it, she's a hilariously terrible political figure and role model. "She knew that there was no talking with the LIEberals so she quit so she could keep her powder dry and try to alert everyone she could about the coming revolution!  "Editor's note: This post is in no way supporting a coming revolution. Please don't take me back to the 'water closet' Mister Secret Service man, I'm a good boy, I work for Soros and everything!
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Mister Bates posted:It's been said before repeatedly, but I love how the evil overlords the conspiracy theorists envision are simultaneously all-powerful, all-seeing evil geniuses, and completely loving incompetent morons. They literally think that a man sent to secretly plant a bomb, in public, in order to orchestrate a 'false flag' attack that is presumably supposed to remain secret, would just go ahead and openly wear the logo of the organization he works for while he does this dirty deed. And not wear it just anywhere, no, he's got it plastered right there on his loving forehead where it's plainly visible. They think that the perpetrators are smarter than everyone besides the genius conspiracy theorists who see through their amazing plans. I've always seen it more as an ego thing for stupid people. At least for the batshit stupid conspiracy theories.
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ObamunistTrollBot posted:They think that the perpetrators are smarter than everyone besides the genius conspiracy theorists who see through their amazing plans. I've always seen it more as an ego thing for stupid people. At least for the batshit stupid conspiracy theories. It'd make more sense if they said that there were people who were being forced along with it, but were trying to reveal it by showing patterns, or bullshit like that.. Which doesn't change the fact that someone being forced to do these things could go to a news reporter, tell them 'I am a witness to X' and be given like, all the breaking news bits in the world.
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E-Tank posted:Just like how 9/11 truthers keep on saying how these things totally add up and prove that there's a global conspiracy. I brought this up to him as an example. In particular, I mentioned the way that some conspiracy theorists insist that fire can't melt the steel from which the towers were built, to which my response was, "So they just find the steel in the shape of buildings, or what?"
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McCloud24 posted:I brought this up to him as an example. In particular, I mentioned the way that some conspiracy theorists insist that fire can't melt the steel from which the towers were built, to which my response was, "So they just find the steel in the shape of buildings, or what?" I think its supposed to be how jet fuel burns at a certain temperature, releasing X amount of heat, and in order to turn steel molten, it has to be Y amount of heat. The problem being is that the steel is not just fine and dandy up until Y amount of heat where it suddenly and instantly turns to liquid, but warps and buckles, weakening the structure. This isn't a video game where the steel has one HP left and therefore is just fine.
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E-Tank posted:I think its supposed to be how jet fuel burns at a certain temperature, releasing X amount of heat, and in order to turn steel molten, it has to be Y amount of heat. Or you go the XKCD route and double down on the conspiracies by saying it was the chemtrails that made the flames burn hotter.
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E-Tank posted:I think its supposed to be how jet fuel burns at a certain temperature, releasing X amount of heat, and in order to turn steel molten, it has to be Y amount of heat. Well somehow they also choose to ignore the fact that the steel, although perfectly capable of supporting the structure when cold, once heated up tends to be more likely to bend or snap under the straight of holding up tons of concrete and other things.
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CommieGIR posted:Well somehow they also choose to ignore the fact that the steel, although perfectly capable of supporting the structure when cold, once heated up tends to be more likely to bend or snap under the straight of holding up tons of concrete and other things. It's almost like they've never studied things like the trusses, beam shapes, and material science. But who needs Mohr's circle when you've got YOUR GUT 
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