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The first battle is kind if weary some in the tv version. The event immediately after are compelling as are those leading up to ep 14. The movie that replaces the first episodes is the way way to start since the first episodes have the worst animation of the whole series, and the movie has a budget to play with.
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That's Movie 1, and canonically the first event in the series. Think of it as the pilot. Movie 2 is "Overture to a New War", which is a remake of the first two episodes of the series. Generally regarded as a superior alternative to those two episodes (meaning you could watch the two movies and start the series with episode 3).
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Can someone give me a timeline of the Ghost in the Shell movies/series? I always thought it was GitS, GitS 2: Innocence, GitS: SAC, GitS: SAC SSS, then whatever the new movie is going to be. However, Major Kusanagi would have had to come back at the end of Innocence for that timeline to fit, or there's something in the middle that I'm missing/is out of order.
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May 7, 2013 04:37
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I'm pretty sure SAC is its own continuity.
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ViggyNash posted:Can someone give me a timeline of the Ghost in the Shell movies/series? I always thought it was GitS, GitS 2: Innocence, GitS: SAC, GitS: SAC SSS, then whatever the new movie is going to be. However, Major Kusanagi would have had to come back at the end of Innocence for that timeline to fit, or there's something in the middle that I'm missing/is out of order. The original movies and SAC are two separate timelines.
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The movies Ghost in the Shell and GitS2: Innocence and the series (Stand Alone Complex) are in completely different continuities. e: Beaten like crazy so I'll add a bit. Both the original movies and the SAC series are based on Masamune's manga, the series takes the characters and setting and explores them in a different way than either the comic or the movie did. There's concepts and even scenes that appear in virtually all of the variations, and things from the original manga that showed up in SAC that didn't make it into the film. a kitten fucked around with this message at 04:46 on May 7, 2013 |
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May 7, 2013 04:41
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And to add to that confusion, it seems like the new production Ghost in the Shell: Arise is taking place in its own continuity.
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It's not that confusing to be honest. There's the movies, there's sac, and then there's gonna be Arise, which will be it's own set of movies IIRC.
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I'm just going to assume that each "continuity" is simply a re imagining of the original concept in alternate ways. What about Solid State Society? Where does that fit in? I'm assuming it's based on the SAC series of events. I asked because I just watched Innocence today and holy poo poo was it fantastic, even on its own merits! The Inception hack scene, as I like to call it, was extraordinarily well done, even considering the rest of the movie, and really fascinating. On a totally unrelated note, my roommate got me to watch School Days and the only reason he gave me for watching it was some vague notion of a boat and something about a joke. I don't really know why I'm still watching a high school love drama; I guess I feel obligated to. Is there really anything special about it?(If there's something to ruin please don't ruin it) ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 08:39 on May 7, 2013 |
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May 7, 2013 08:22
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If you hate yourself, keep watching. If you do not hate yourself, stop watching School Days. Your roommate is trolling you.
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ViggyNash posted:What about Solid State Society? Where does that fit in? I'm assuming it's based on the SAC series of events. Solid State Society comes after Second Gig.
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Captain Invictus posted:If you hate yourself, keep watching. If you do not hate yourself, stop watching School Days. Your roommate is trolling you. A couple episodes in he asked me if I hated the characters yet. It's pretty drat obvious what he means by the fourth-ish episode, so I guess Ill just finish it for posterity. Honestly, I don't know why I'm forcing myself to watch it at this point. But gently caress it, I will finish it, no matter how traumatic the brain damage. It's only worth being trolled if I get the joke afterwards.
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I've seen people talking about how School Days is a big troll before - could someone direct me to a spoilery link that explains it all or summarise what's wrong with it? I'm curious enough to want to know, but not enough to actually watch something that is bad.
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Chas McGill posted:I've seen people talking about how School Days is a big troll before - could someone direct me to a spoilery link that explains it all or summarise what's wrong with it? I'm curious enough to want to know, but not enough to actually watch something that is bad. Here's a summary of the whole shindig, I am still not entirely convinced that it's not a brilliant satire of harem anime/Dating sims. So the setup is incredibly conventional; you have the boring everyman protagonist, and the multiple highschool girls who are strangely attracted to him. Except, it quickly becomes obvious our everyman isn't quite the typical everyman, he's actually just a horny and somewhat unethical teenager. So basically a teenager  . So he starts dating Girl 1, but when she won't sleep with him, he starts dating Girl 2 who will, without actually breaking up with Girl 1. Then, when he gets bored of Girl 2, he sleeps with Girl 3 when she shows interest in him. Anyway, skipping some stuff, it turns out Girl 2 is pregnant, and (this is where my memory gets fuzzy) shunned by everyone else, our hero starts dating Girl 1 again. Who goes crazy, and kills Girl 2 to see if she's actually pregnant (she wasn't), then decapitates our hero, with the last scene being Girl 1 cradling his head while on a boat out at sea.
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Chas McGill posted:I've seen people talking about how School Days is a big troll before - could someone direct me to a spoilery link that explains it all or summarise what's wrong with it? I'm curious enough to want to know, but not enough to actually watch something that is bad. You could watch the ending, which is pretty hosed up and very   ! Just a warning before you go clicking that link anywhere that might get you in trouble!edit: whoops, shoulda refreshed the thread.
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This why it was a joke: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nice-boat You guys forgot the real life news part. There should still be an archived ADTRW thread of what happened while School Days was airing. bubblegumbo0 fucked around with this message at 17:08 on May 7, 2013 |
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Cake Attack posted:Here's a summary of the whole shindig, I am still not entirely convinced that it's not a brilliant satire of harem anime/Dating sims. Captain Invictus posted:You could watch the ending, which is pretty hosed up and very That's amazing. So, what happens is pretty much what should happen to most everyman protagonists. I'm at work, so I probably shouldn't watch that vid.
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Does anyone have some good recommendations for something with the main character dealing with existentialism? I guess that could be a bit broad... I'm more interested in that being one of the main or continuing themes, not just something that is faced in a couple of episodes. I'm not too concerned with the setting, so I'm kind of open to most suggestions. I'm sure I'll miss something, but here are some series I expect may be recommended that I've already seen: -Lain -Evangelion -Haibane Renmei -Shin Sekai Yori The list could go on but I feel like those are some that have more of a focus on it. I'm sure I've seen some others that will get recommended, but I'm drawing a bit of a blank right now. Thanks in advance for any recommendations!
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I said I would finish it and I'm almost done, and my god did they do a fantastic job of getting me to hate nearly every character to the point where I would like to punch them all in the face. You can't really blame Katsura though since she essentially got played and left for dead with everyone hating and beating on her.C1000 posted:Does anyone have some good recommendations for something with the main character dealing with existentialism? I guess that could be a bit broad... I'm more interested in that being one of the main or continuing themes, not just something that is faced in a couple of episodes. I'm not too concerned with the setting, so I'm kind of open to most suggestions. You actually want existentialism? I personally find existentialism to be really creepy and depressing, although it makes for fantastic and fascinating stories. I think I know what you're looking for, and Madoka Magica fits the bill, if you haven't watched it. On a different track I would suggest Steins;Gate, which I see as a look at existentialism through time travel. And on another different track, Gurren Lagaan's scale ended up flying though the roof and to the moon. It doesn't really deal with existentialism directly, but the absurd scaling leads to it in its own way. ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 17:05 on May 7, 2013 |
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Chas McGill posted:That's amazing. So, what happens is pretty much what should happen to most everyman protagonists. I'm at work, so I probably shouldn't watch that vid. Nah school days rules because the harem owners does what a sensible teen boy with harem powers would do: literally gently caress everyone in his class. Its both the beauty of seeing someone finally just go for it in one of these harem anime, and then show the natural result of having a bunch of broads obsessed with some rear end in a top hat highschool kid who is loving his way through the yearbook. The moral of the story: all harem leads are total spineless wieners cuz the alternative is gettin cut, apparently.
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HOLY gently caress THAT ENDING. For context, I just finished School Days. I think I'll go get some of my sanity back by having a nice, normal lunch.
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ViggyNash posted:HOLY gently caress THAT ENDING. Picking flowers and wearing garlands tend to be good for your sanity meter.
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Didn't see the point in starting a new thread for this but wanted to thank whoever made the Black Lagoon recommendation. It wasn't like the animes I sought to get more of but it was thoroughly enjoyable on its own. I felt the earlier half was stronger than the latter which unfortunately suffered by bringing back Garcia, why is it that animes always have to have a child that learns some lesson in the mix? I guess he wasn't as bad as some characters that have filled that role in animes though. It could be a bit preachy or long winded at times with some of the speeches the characters gave but I also enjoyed some of them. It certainly was good enough that I wouldn't have minded them making more episodes or another OVA. I'm thinking of watching Steins;Gate, Baccano! or Seirei no Moriboto now.
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Stein's Gate is the best out of all of them by far, including Black Lagoon.
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I'd recommend reading the S;G novel over the anime honestly. The adaptation is great though, but I found the original to be better.
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Corte posted:I'm thinking of watching Steins;Gate, Baccano! or Seirei no Moriboto now.
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What is Seirei no Moriboto about? I cant find an entry on the wiki for it.
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Sorry, I wasn't looking for which to go with next, though thanks for the suggestions. Just saying where I was headed next for no particular reason. So the novel of S;G is available in english? I have only ever read Battle Royale so I'm definitely interested in expanding my horizons in terms of fiction reading.
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ViggyNash posted:What is Seirei no Moriboto about? I cant find an entry on the wiki for it. A badass female Corte posted:So the novel of S;G is available in english? I have only ever read Battle Royale so I'm definitely interested in expanding my horizons in terms of fiction reading. By "novel" he does mean Visual Novel, in case that wasn't clear. There is a fan translation available on the internet. Redcrimson fucked around with this message at 03:39 on May 8, 2013 |
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Corte posted:Sorry, I wasn't looking for which to go with next, though thanks for the suggestions. Just saying where I was headed next for no particular reason. So the novel of S;G is available in english? I have only ever read Battle Royale so I'm definitely interested in expanding my horizons in terms of fiction reading. It's a visual novel (although just to be clear, it has no unsavory content) and while you'd have to probably import a copy but there is a complete English translation patch floating around.
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Corte posted:Sorry, I wasn't looking for which to go with next, though thanks for the suggestions. Just saying where I was headed next for no particular reason. So the novel of S;G is available in english? I have only ever read Battle Royale so I'm definitely interested in expanding my horizons in terms of fiction reading.
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quote:Steins;Gate I got the first LOGH movie last night, so I guess I'll just watch that instead. Fake edit: Just wanted to add that Seirei no Moribito is one of my favorite shows -- Balsa is a strong, engaging female lead and the fight scenes are pretty incredible. The show covers the first book in the series and you can get the first two novels in English but unfortunately as far as I can tell Scholastic decided not to translate any more of them. Real edit: To clarify, I was more put off by the female characters in S;G than anything. It was starting to smell like a harem, especially the way most of them seemed to be standard dating sim personality types. I just don't have a lot of patience for that kind of stuff and it can ruin a show for me very quickly. Everything Burrito fucked around with this message at 05:15 on May 8, 2013 |
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I have no idea what turned you off on this show because it is fantastic from the beginning. What you may not understand at first will all be explained later. If it is Okabe's personality that's putting you off, then one thing you should know about the show is that Okabe is one of the best written characters I've seen in a while. He can be a bit insufferable at times in the beginning, but pretty much every character changes dynamically with the show, Okabe most of all. The show really starts when the "time travel" begins and the plot comes into focus. On another note, is it safe to assume that not one of the main characters of Baccano is sane? So far it's one crazy romp made in a style unlike anything I've seen.
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ViggyNash posted:On another note, is it safe to assume that not one of the main characters of Baccano is sane? So far it's one crazy romp made in a style unlike anything I've seen. Sanity is relative in that show. All you can really accept as fact is that almost every character is having a drat good time.
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Ed Mungo posted:I've been checking out posted recommendations looking for good stuff I might have missed (have seen most of what tends to be recommended); just gave this a shot and couldn't make it through the second episode. I got to the cat-maid cafe scene and had enough. Disappointing, because I like shows with older characters and the design of the main guy caught my eye. You're overreacting. The point of the maid cafe scene isn't that maid cafes are hilarious and awesome, it's there to characterize the protagonists as maladjusted nerds. Steins;Gate is basically about Okabe's transformation from that annoying kid who quotes 4chan all the time and doesn't really understand how human interaction works into -- well, not exactly "a healthy well-adjusted human being," but certainly something better than what he was.
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Ed Mungo posted:I've been checking out posted recommendations looking for good stuff I might have missed (have seen most of what tends to be recommended); just gave this a shot and couldn't make it through the second episode. I got to the cat-maid cafe scene and had enough. Disappointing, because I like shows with older characters and the design of the main guy caught my eye. Steins;Gate has a slow build, the time shenanigans don't really kick off until episode 7. But once it gets going though, oh man. Tuxedo Catfish posted:You're overreacting. The point of the maid cafe scene isn't that maid cafes are hilarious and awesome, it's there to characterize the protagonists as maladjusted nerds. Steins;Gate is basically about Okabe's transformation from that annoying kid who quotes 4chan all the time and doesn't really understand how human interaction works into -- well, not exactly "a healthy well-adjusted human being," but certainly something better than what he was. This too.
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Ed Mungo posted:I've been checking out posted recommendations looking for good stuff I might have missed (have seen most of what tends to be recommended); just gave this a shot and couldn't make it through the second episode. I got to the cat-maid cafe scene and had enough. Steins;Gate starts very slow, but it's also extremely rewarding. All the early babbling and dicking around sets up a lot of really great characterization and builds tension for the second and third acts. As for the maid cafe thing, that's just a serious knee-jerk reaction.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Sanity is relative in that show. All you can really accept as fact is that almost every character is having a drat good time. Well, everyone except for Jacuzzi at least. He's pretty much always making GBS threads himself.
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Ed Mungo posted:I've been checking out posted recommendations looking for good stuff I might have missed (have seen most of what tends to be recommended); just gave this a shot and couldn't make it through the second episode. I got to the cat-maid cafe scene and had enough. Disappointing, because I like shows with older characters and the design of the main guy caught my eye. You gave up way too quick. Yeah, there's a good bit of female characters, but it doesn't ever go into harem territory and the show starts off a bit slow but jumps into full speed pretty shortly. It certainly isn't going to be everyone's thing, but you should give it more of a chance.
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