|
The Devil Tesla posted:Is there anyone who wouldn't be willing to wait a week longer for new episodes, to make sure they are done right? Advertisers probably wouldn't appreciate having to wait a week, nor whoever handles the TV scheduling, even if fans would be willing to take a week delay.
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 16:40
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 5, 2024 17:07 |
|
|
Also, wouldn't it count against the episode count and rush whatever ending they had planned?
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 16:54
|
|
|
Tae posted:Also, wouldn't it count against the episode count and rush whatever ending they had planned? It would be a problem if it was only 12 episodes long. But it has twice as many episodes.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 16:56
|
|
|
The Devil Tesla posted:Is there anyone who wouldn't be willing to wait a week longer for new episodes, to make sure they are done right? The TV companies, I would imagine.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 17:16
|
|
|
The Devil Tesla posted:Is there anyone who wouldn't be willing to wait a week longer for new episodes, to make sure they are done right? Hate to break it to you but anime is an entertainment business before it is an art business. That's like saying "What if I turn my test in late" or "What if I don't deliver my work project on time". People generally won't say "well that's okay, carry on".
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 17:27
|
|
|
The best you can hope for in this area is delayed DVD/BDs with lots of fixes. SHAFT is the most infamous for their habit of adding to (read: finishing) their series only on the BD release (I suspect there will be changes to the Madoka movie as well making for 4 or 5 different versions if you count the Nico stream) often at the cost of longer waits but they aren't the only ones. If you look around you'll find the JJBA BD's/DVDs have had a large number of changes/fixes. Basically, if the TV run goes bad you just have to hope the studio is willing to put lots of effort into the DVD release.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 18:05
|
|
|
The Devil Tesla posted:Is there anyone who wouldn't be willing to wait a week longer for new episodes, to make sure they are done right? Angry nerds on the internet.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 18:14
|
|
|
Doctor w-rw-rw- posted:Hate to break it to you but anime is an entertainment business before it is an art business. That's like saying "What if I turn my test in late" or "What if I don't deliver my work project on time". People generally won't say "well that's okay, carry on". Oh of course, but the show is popular enough that it's probably not going to suddenly dissapear if the production can't pull off a miricle.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 18:27
|
|
|
The Devil Tesla posted:Oh of course, but the show is popular enough that it's probably not going to suddenly dissapear if the production can't pull off a miricle. But Wit Studio might, since it has nearly no projects under its belt.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 18:31
|
|
|
Perhaps they can do a Kickstarter to fund each episode, and the person who makes the highest donation for an episode gets to decide which soldier gets eaten during that episode.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 18:46
|
|
|
JosephWongKS posted:Perhaps they can do a Kickstarter to fund each episode, and the person who makes the highest donation for an episode gets to decide which soldier gets eaten during that episode. Or which one doesn't 
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 18:49
|
|
|
JosephWongKS posted:Perhaps they can do a Kickstarter to fund each episode, and the person who makes the highest donation for an episode gets to decide which soldier gets eaten during that episode. Gonna spend my life savings to get Sasha eaten
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 19:13
|
|
|
AnonSpore posted:Gonna spend my life savings to get Sasha eaten Don't say things you can't take back.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 19:15
|
|
|
Sasha will eat the titans instead. It is written.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 19:32
|
|
|
SC Bracer posted:[REDACTED MEGA SPOILER] Why would you spoil this? I thoroughly enjoyed the reveal.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 20:24
|
|
|
Soks posted:Why would you spoil this? I thoroughly enjoyed the reveal. I thought the reveal that the titians were potato based was ham handed personally. We get it starches are bad stop bringing it up low-carb writers.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 22:04
|
|
|
Doctor w-rw-rw- posted:It's worth noting that Wit Studio is animating it in association with Production I.G., who is collaborating with it but isn't credited as the primary animation production company. Zettace posted:There's some worrying news about the animation staff. Apparently each weeks episode is being finished up basically at the deadline which became obvious in this weeks airing. Some stations receive the episodes early than others and Production I.G had to send out an unfinished version to these stations which they aplogized to the viewers in these regions for. Entire scenes, including very important ones were cut and replaced with still frames. There's a comparison video on Niconico Douga which shows just how much missing material they had to complete in a the span of a few days. This is worrying as if they fall too far behind then we might start getting clip show episodes. Comparison video: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm20807007 (I think you need to register to view but it's pretty easy) What in the gently caress?  WHAT IN THE gently caress?I know shows often get touched-up for little gently caress-ups, or the maybe some poorly drawn scenes. But this is a god-damned slideshow! Is this something that happens occasionally and I just never heard about it before? How did a such a poo poo-show studio get the contract for this series? Isn't Attack on Titan a fairly popular manga?
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 22:05
|
|
|
Maybe they snatched up the rights to it when it still pretty new.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 22:07
|
|
|
XboxPants posted:Comparison video: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm20807007 (I think you need to register to view but it's pretty easy) I just watched that, too, and holy poo poo. The difference in quality between the two versions is night and day. I hope most people at least see the finished version that gets shown later or something, because drat. 
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 22:14
|
|
|
It's a brand new studio that's attached to Production I.G, so it's pretty safe to say that Production I.G did the heavy lifting to get it and then handed it over to the new studio so they could show their chops.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 22:17
|
|
|
Why exactly is anime getting made so close to the release date? Seems like a very risky thing, what if one of the episodes ends up just not finished before the supposed release date?
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 22:19
|
|
|
XboxPants posted:Comparison video: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm20807007 (I think you need to register to view but it's pretty easy) It's happened from time to time. SHAFT has a reputation for it in fact. Art assets missing, OPs and EDs not finished on time and most notably an arc of Bakemonogatari unanimated (and some who wish it had remained that way). Bake was plagued by production problems. I'm sure I remember talk of a Madoka episode only getting finished a few hours before it aired. For other studios it's unusual but not unheard of and can be down to a great many reasons. As I understand things, and I am fully aware I could be wrong, it's fairly common practice to have an ep ready only a day before airing. That they got the finished ep out later makes it seem like they had the footage but not edited it together or done a final pass. I wouldn't poo poo on the studio just yet. gently caress-ups happen. quote:Why exactly is anime getting made so close to the release date? Seems like a very risky thing, what if one of the episodes ends up just not finished before the supposed release date? They have the dialogue recorded long before so that's safe. If they don't have footage then it's time to get creative (or just reuses old footage). Popo fucked around with this message at 22:23 on May 9, 2013 |
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 22:21
|
|
|
The Black Stones posted:It's a brand new studio that's attached to Production I.G, so it's pretty safe to say that Production I.G did the heavy lifting to get it and then handed it over to the new studio so they could show their chops. Ooooh, they're new. Well, that makes it a bit more understandable. I was thinking I had never heard of Wit because they were some cheap-rear end crap studio. The stuff they have actually made is really good; hopefully they just haven't quite gotten up to speed yet. Gotta get the new animation staff up to speed, I guess. It'd be cool if they had a big success with this series and we got another nice anime studio that can put out new show or two every season.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 22:52
|
|
|
Davincie posted:Why exactly is anime getting made so close to the release date? Seems like a very risky thing, what if one of the episodes ends up just not finished before the supposed release date? That comparison video is what happens. Good lord that was terrible. I wonder how pissed off the locals who got that broadcast were.
|
|
#
?
May 9, 2013 23:38
|
|
|
Davincie posted:Why exactly is anime getting made so close to the release date? Seems like a very risky thing, what if one of the episodes ends up just not finished before the supposed release date? It's very much not unheard of for episodes to arrive hours before they air, you know. A number of series over the past two years were often finished mere hours before airing. The significant part here is that they've actually been late. Cutting it close is not super unusual.
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2013 01:54
|
|
|
Turning in your materials hours before the deadline is a grand old tradition that dates back to Yamato at the very least. But probably sooner than that!
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2013 02:06
|
|
|
Srice posted:Turning in your materials hours before the deadline is a grand old tradition that dates back to Yamato at the very least. But probably sooner than that! Well, a well-behaved production will usually have it ready enough to sub a week early. The earliest I've seen an episode ready to be published is a week and a half to two weeks before air, and that was a rare occurrence.
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2013 02:31
|
|
|
You would think that someone on the business end of the production process might take a look at the state of production delays in the industry as a whole and sit their people down and explain that the expected due date for these things has moved forward a week and thus the start date has moved forward a week as well. It's one thing if just-in-time happens every once in a while, but it happening frequently suggests that there's something wrong with the way projects are managed. SHAFT can sorta get away with stuff like that most of the time because you can pass an arty still shot off as them being SHAFT, but a heavily action-based series like this not having a large margin for error is really asking for trouble.
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2013 02:59
|
|
|
That would rely on the anime industry doing things that make sense, though.
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2013 03:01
|
|
|
The thing is, since we're talking about anime that airs at late o'clock here, they probably just see this sort of thing as another incentive to get people to buy the blu-rays (which I guess it technically is!).
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2013 03:22
|
|
|
Srice posted:Turning in your materials hours before the deadline is a grand old tradition that dates back to Yamato at the very least. But probably sooner than that! And it made for a plot point in an episode of Paranoia Agent too. Oh, Satoshi Kon and his meta bullshit... that I love. This is the only show I'm watching now, so it better keep kicking rear end. I love the crazy anatomy of that giant steamdude.
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2013 04:03
|
|
|
Paracelsus posted:You would think that someone on the business end of the production process might take a look at the state of production delays in the industry as a whole and sit their people down and explain that the expected due date for these things has moved forward a week and thus the start date has moved forward a week as well. It's one thing if just-in-time happens every once in a while, but it happening frequently suggests that there's something wrong with the way projects are managed. SHAFT can sorta get away with stuff like that most of the time because you can pass an arty still shot off as them being SHAFT, but a heavily action-based series like this not having a large margin for error is really asking for trouble. So it's getting better, but these things can take a long time. Doctor w-rw-rw- fucked around with this message at 05:53 on May 10, 2013 |
|
#
?
May 10, 2013 05:51
|
|
|
The North American games industry which I understand to be an order of magnitude larger in value has problems that are far worse. Whatever there is to say about average quality of anime I personally can't think of an example of an anime that was bad because of time constraints, so there's that as a little bit of a saving grace.
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2013 06:12
|
|
|
I feel sorry for those teams having to face crazy deadlines every week. They don't get paid enough for that.
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2013 06:41
|
|
|
Maybe it's intended for security reasons, I mean look what happens to stuff like adventure time that's ready weeks/months before it airs, just about every highly anticipated episode gets leaked online well before the air date (Though a lot of the leaks are the fault of I-tunes/youtube having poor security or sloppy content managers).
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2013 08:17
|
|
|
AndroidHub posted:Maybe it's intended for security reasons, I mean look what happens to stuff like adventure time that's ready weeks/months before it airs, just about every highly anticipated episode gets leaked online well before the air date (Though a lot of the leaks are the fault of I-tunes/youtube having poor security or sloppy content managers). Generally not. Almost certainly has to do with funding and delay to return on funding, and the amount of runway the animation studio has to keep going until it runs out of funds. The better the studio, the bigger the studio, and the bigger the overhead. Titan's studio's challenge, given its success so far, will probably be in scaling up the studio to handle the kind of quality it's set the bar at on time. It's not just a matter of hiring more animators, unfortunately. It's most likely their process that is in chaos, in my opinion.
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2013 15:19
|
|
|
So long as the show stays as good as it has been so far I'd certainly opt for the DVD/Blu-Ray release anyway so any minor animation problems will at least be fixed for that.
|
|
#
?
May 10, 2013 23:43
|
|
|
I honestly never understood why Japanese studios were producing episodes on an individual basis like they do instead of simply animating the entire season months ahead of the actual airdate like you would for any other television show. It just seems like an incredibly bizarre and risky method of creation.
|
|
#
?
May 11, 2013 04:17
|
|
|
Amstrad posted:I honestly never understood why Japanese studios were producing episodes on an individual basis like they do instead of simply animating the entire season months ahead of the actual airdate like you would for any other television show. It just seems like an incredibly bizarre and risky method of creation. Everything about the anime industry is backwards it's amazing it still manages to exist.
|
|
#
?
May 11, 2013 05:28
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 5, 2024 17:07 |
|
|
Amstrad posted:I honestly never understood why Japanese studios were producing episodes on an individual basis like they do instead of simply animating the entire season months ahead of the actual airdate like you would for any other television show. It just seems like an incredibly bizarre and risky method of creation. Or so I'd imagine. There's more "risk" to the bottom line if you make the whole drat show ahead of time, even if that's obviously a more sensible way of doing it.
|
|
#
?
May 11, 2013 07:54
|
|
