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TheAceOfLungs posted:Well, good thing I don't gamble, or I'd have lost all my money. I was so sure this was Elan's curtain call. Still, this was some good character development for him, and frankly, I'm glad I was wrong. Er...does he still have Oracle Immunity after all this, do you think? After all, this clearly wasn't an actual ending, but then again.. I doubt it. This wasn't a happy ending for Elan, it was Elan realizing that he can't have that particular happy ending. Which I guess is a path towards him getting a real happy ending but the specific wording of the prophecy ("for you") makes it unlikely this nullifies that.
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TheAceOfLungs posted:Well, good thing I don't gamble, or I'd have lost all my money. I was so sure this was Elan's curtain call. Still, this was some good character development for him, and frankly, I'm glad I was wrong. Er...does he still have Oracle Immunity after all this, do you think? After all, this clearly wasn't an actual ending, but then again...
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I wonder how this will work with Elan's former plan of what to do about Tarquin. If he just realized that he was hopelessly naive before then his plan was probably also naive.
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Broker 'died' and thinks he's having a great time slaughtering/taking over the entire chaotic evil afterlife.
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May 21, 2013 02:40
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First we see V's mind broken by his accidental genocide, then Roy completely disillusioned after Durkon's death, now Elan growing up and facing what his family really is...goddamn, Burlew, this has been a rough loving ride.
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MikeJF posted:Broker 
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Wolfsheim posted:First we see V's mind broken by his accidental genocide, then Roy completely disillusioned after Durkon's death, now Elan growing up and facing what his family really is...goddamn, Burlew, this has been a rough loving ride. Don't forget Belkar. Who has learnt that fake character development eventually becomes real character development.
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I guess the spell puts people in a shared illusion, but Belkar's idea of the perfect outcome is so different from the others' that even epic throws its hands up and says, you know what, fine, that guy gets his own. Which does imply that Belkar getting killed is part of Roy, Elan and Haley's personal ideal outcome. Roy and Haley know about the prophecy so it could be as easy as fulfilling the expectations of the majority, but at some level they probably all would like someone else to deal with him so they don't have to either let an insane murderer roam free or kill their long-time companion. Xykon killing Belkar is drat convenient.
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TheAceOfLungs posted:Isn't there an old wives' tale about dying in your dreams? On the one hand, he is still standing up, but on the other hand, we can't see his eyes. Would it even be possible for him to be dead yet still standing up? There is but its not strictly true, I've died in my dreams before (and though that often woke me up there was one time when I came back as a ghost instead.)
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Roland Jones posted:Huh, Roy seems to be having more trouble shrugging that off than Haley and Elan. Wonder if there's anything behind that. Roy really, really wants to believe that there's a way out of this and that Durkon is alive and etc. He's actually in real life denial over his dead friend right now, so it makes sense that he'd readily accept a realistic fantasy of everything being just fine after all. And, of course, the big development moment here for Elan is that he realised some of his heart's desires were infeasible or childish and didn't take the real people involved into account.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Which does imply that Belkar getting killed is part of Roy, Elan and Haley's personal ideal outcome. Roy and Haley know about the prophecy so it could be as easy as fulfilling the expectations of the majority, but at some level they probably all would like someone else to deal with him so they don't have to either let an insane murderer roam free or kill their long-time companion. Xykon killing Belkar is drat convenient. I was going to say, I do think that it's "prophecy" trumping "personal ideal". Unlike Durkon, they know the timeline of Belkar's death instead of just "eventually dead" (since that applies to everyone). While Roy doesn't particularly like Belkar, he did save Haley's life and Elan's....Elan.
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Cliff Racer posted:There is but its not strictly true Whew, that's a relief.
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I once died in a dream. I didn't wake up; I just switched to a completely different dream.
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Cat Mattress posted:I once died in a dream. I didn't wake up; I just switched to a completely different dream. The one where you wake up and go back to working in a 9-5 job to support your family until you either die or get fired for being too old? Me too, I hate that dream :/
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Ursine Asylum posted:The one where you wake up and go back to working in a 9-5 job to support your family until you either die or get fired for being too old? Me too, I hate that dream :/ I hear if you die in that dream, you go to another one where you have 72 virgins at your call all day long.
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peak debt posted:I hear if you die in that dream, you go to another one where you have 72 virgins at your call all day long.
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Smart Car posted:I too dream about posting on SA.  I've been having dreams lately that are really childish, blunt satire and it's super annoying.
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It just occurred to me that the pyramid full of illusions is where everyone is seeing things as they actually are.
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May 22, 2013 04:02
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sebmojo posted:
drat it I KNEW this abomination was going to start creeping around the forums.
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sebmojo posted:It just occurred to me that the pyramid full of illusions is where everyone is seeing things as they actually are. That's.... a thing.
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sebmojo posted:It just occurred to me that the pyramid full of illusions is where everyone is seeing things as they actually are. Well, let's see: Elan realizes the truth about his family, so Ok. V gets a revelation about the Draketooths' connection to the black dragon, so s/he can count towards that, too. You could also include Durkon finding out his BFF is a vampire, if you feel so inclined. Roy and Haley haven't really had any eye-popping revelations or realizations, though, and I'm not too sure about Belkar. That's only half of everyone, then (Although, the night is still young). Still, the biggest moment of truthiness happened for Elan, who is himself the illusionist of the group. An illusionist seeing things as they are in the pyramid of illusions? Does that work just as good?
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TheAceOfLungs posted:Roy and Haley haven't really had any eye-popping revelations or realizations, though, This is what makes time-travelling Belkar the obvious best solution to the prophecy. Imagine: Roy's completely isolated from the rest of the group, about to die, and then an elderly Belkar appears out of nowhere and saves him, berating him about how his "rear end in a top hat-as-team-leader" function is devolving into "rear end in a top hat-in-general", and then getting killed by something. Perfect. (this is only half serious, but I do think that Belkar's death has about a 95% chance of being related to Roy in some fashion.)
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TheAceOfLungs posted:Well, let's see: Elan realizes the truth about his family, so Ok. V gets a revelation about the Draketooths' connection to the black dragon, so s/he can count towards that, too. You could also include Durkon finding out his BFF is a vampire, if you feel so inclined. Roy and Haley haven't really had any eye-popping revelations or realizations, though, and I'm not too sure about Belkar. That's only half of everyone, then (Although, the night is still young). I'm counting Roy breaking out of the illusion (and learning what he really wants via the illusion), but nothing for Haley yet, I agree.
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Soup du Jour posted:This is what makes time-travelling Belkar the obvious best solution to the prophecy. Imagine: Roy's completely isolated from the rest of the group, about to die, and then an elderly Belkar appears out of nowhere and saves him, berating him about how his "rear end in a top hat-as-team-leader" function is devolving into "rear end in a top hat-in-general", and then getting killed by something. Perfect. If we're lumping Durkon's revelation in, then I would say that Belkar's revelation is that he actually does care, but he might not have enough time left on the world to get anyone to believe it. Coming back to the party and being honest only to get that kind of reaction must have really hurt.
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I hope Rich isn't just making us start to sympathize with Belkar so he can kill him off and actually have people upset about it 
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majormonotone posted:I hope Rich isn't just making us start to sympathize with Belkar so he can kill him off and actually have people upset about it D:
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I just...I have hope now. Even though I know it's futile.
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majormonotone posted:I just...I have hope now. Even though I know it's futile. Looks like it's working!
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majormonotone posted:I hope Rich isn't just making us start to sympathize with Belkar so he can kill him off and actually have people upset about it
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Heh, nice swerve with Belkar's fantasy thing. Honestly didn't expect that.
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Hah, I just said to myself 5 minutes ago " You know, it's about time for a new OotS", and sure enough, Here it is. That Freedom panel is great. It's just..just great.
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I have a really bad feeling I know exactly what the GitP forums are doing with that next-to-last panel. I wish I didn't.
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May 26, 2013 03:57
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Okay yeah, that bardic spell of freedom is perfect. The old man's still got it.
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So Roy thinks Belkar is Frank Millar? Fascinating.
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DaveWoo posted:Heh, nice swerve with Belkar's fantasy thing. Honestly didn't expect that.
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Spiderdrake posted:Look more closely at the panels. You missed a little tiny thing. ... Okay, I'll bite: what did I miss?
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DaveWoo posted:... Okay, I'll bite: what did I miss? Mr. Scruffy was hypnotized too. It was a shared illusion for Belkar and his cat.
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Zonekeeper posted:Mr. Scruffy was hypnotized too. It was a shared illusion for Belkar and his cat. Ooooooooooooooooh. BURLEW 
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