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bigmcgaffney
Apr 19, 2009
CCP sounds like PCP, coincidence????

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Present
Oct 28, 2011

by Shine
Did they say when the server would be back up?

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Present posted:

Did they say when the server would be back up?

No, they're probably following their safety protocols first to resolve the issue etc. before they start to bring it online.

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

nucleicmaxid posted:

So all of us honorable people who didn't spend it just lost out on 2.5m isk or whatever? Lame.

Looks like I shoulda blown that "free" 75 million in spacebucks, eh?

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

Present posted:

Did they say when the server would be back up?

They're poo poo's so down they don't even have forums. How hosed do you have to be to just be totally wiped from the internet for a day?(or more??)

JerryRudd
Apr 17, 2002

Power of the Pornstache

Feenix posted:

They're poo poo's so down they don't even have forums. How hosed do you have to be to just be totally wiped from the internet for a day?(or more??)

Pretty f'd, to be sure. It's not about getting everything functional, it's also about making sure the problem just won't pop up again in a few hours. You basically have a bunch of security professionals (both internal and external) communicating with each other and until they are all in agreeance that it's all clear, nothing is coming up.

Yeti Fiasco
Aug 19, 2010
Just applied as Yetifiasco

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




applied as Malloreon

Avynte
Jun 30, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Well, forcing 480p and then tweaking the DS and Move sensitivity fixed just about all of my control issues, but I didn't think the game could look any worse. :smith:

Towner
Jun 18, 2006

Fuck this, I need beer
This dev blog reveals more. It's not the first time CCP have been targeted and it won't be the last either. We'll probably get some free SP.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Towner posted:

This dev blog reveals more. It's not the first time CCP have been targeted and it won't be the last either. We'll probably get some free SP.

Thus incentivizing further attacks. Quick! Get your botnets ready, DDoS soon!

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Towner posted:

This dev blog reveals more. It's not the first time CCP have been targeted and it won't be the last either. We'll probably get some free SP.

For those of us who play EVE, yeah its not unheard of. In 2011 CCP was targeted by Lulzsec along with several other companies, the full article is here. Also that link is from the EVE forums/site so that SP refund is most likely referring to EVE players who couldn't get any of their skills updated/queued (its much different than DUST's system). Obviously they said they'll compensate DUST but it won't be the same sort of compensation.

PerrineClostermann posted:

Thus incentivizing further attacks. Quick! Get your botnets ready, DDoS soon!

Sounds like you've been on the DUST forums for too long, you're starting to sound like one of those mouth breathers.

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Jun 3, 2013

primelaw
Apr 4, 2012

The most southern dandy robot judge
Applied as Prime Law

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

primelaw posted:

Applied as Prime Law

Go back to Tanks, primelaw.

Relentless
Sep 22, 2007

It's a perfect day for some mayhem!


Applied as RelentlessSA. Wooo unemployment.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
If you are on jabber, PM me (abu@goonfleet.com) and let's start theorycrafting ways to make ISK off dumb pubbies. This is a project I want to get started on soon.

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jun 3, 2013

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Uba Stij posted:

If you are on jabber, PM me (abu@goonfleet.com) and let's start theorycrafting ways to make ISK off dumb pubbies. This is a project I want to get started on soon.

Is IRC fine, too? I'm always up for generating ISK and tears.

primelaw
Apr 4, 2012

The most southern dandy robot judge

PerrineClostermann posted:

Go back to Tanks, primelaw.

Never :colbert:

I decided to take a break from it with my new ps3

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

PerrineClostermann posted:

Is IRC fine, too? I'm always up for generating ISK and tears.

I'd prefer jabber since I'm uptight about OPsec poo poo on IRC etc. but if you PM me on IRC we can chat. Jabber is also easy to use at my work computer as it looks like i'm IM'ng the other guys on my team.

Edit - actually you can just PM me and we could make our own IRC channel if we need to I guess, I'm pretty dumb with IRC stuff to be quite honest.

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jun 3, 2013

Klisejo
Apr 13, 2006

Who else see da' Leprechaun say YEAH!

Uba Stij posted:

For those of us who play EVE, yeah its not unheard of.

*grampa voice* ~Back in my day, when we wanted the EVE-O forums down, we'd do it our drat selves! Kaiser Mittani launched the Threadnaught, and thats how we beat the Japs at Midway.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Klisejo posted:

*grampa voice* ~Back in my day, when we wanted the EVE-O forums down, we'd do it our drat selves! Kaiser Mittani launched the Threadnaught, and thats how we beat the Japs at Midway.

Sure thing grandpa, I was just referring to 2 years ago.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Uba Stij posted:

I'd prefer jabber since I'm uptight about OPsec poo poo on IRC etc. but if you PM me on IRC we can chat. Jabber is also easy to use at my work computer as it looks like i'm IM'ng the other guys on my team.

Edit - actually you can just PM me and we could make our own IRC channel if we need to I guess, I'm pretty dumb with IRC stuff to be quite honest.

It's just that I don't have GSF Jabber access.

taichijedi
Nov 8, 2006

Applied with Primus Liberator. Looking forward to dying horribly; it should be fun!

Samahiel
Mar 17, 2009

Uba Stij posted:

I'd prefer jabber since I'm uptight about OPsec poo poo on IRC etc. but if you PM me on IRC we can chat. Jabber is also easy to use at my work computer as it looks like i'm IM'ng the other guys on my team.

Edit - actually you can just PM me and we could make our own IRC channel if we need to I guess, I'm pretty dumb with IRC stuff to be quite honest.

Use the god drat IRC. That's what it's for. We're not running that many OPsec risks that we need to worry about spies finding our super secret goon only server.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

PerrineClostermann posted:

It's just that I don't have GSF Jabber access.

Like I said, just PM me on IRC then.

Samahiel posted:

Use the god drat IRC. That's what it's for. We're not running that many OPsec risks that we need to worry about spies finding our super secret goon only server.

Part of the reason I want to segregate the discussion is so that you don't have a random unrelated chat taking over it.

"yeah so this is how we'll scam..."

"omg loving pubbies ruining my LAV games, god does anyone else loving hate them?"

"ok, gently caress this I'm out."

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jun 3, 2013

Present
Oct 28, 2011

by Shine
So has the Ill omens corp battle vid been posted yet?

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Present posted:

So has the Ill omens corp battle vid been posted yet?

The one from a while ago? It's up but its associated with the AAR and I haven't been told to make it either public yet by anyone higher up the foodchain.

Present
Oct 28, 2011

by Shine
Arg I just want to watch a video of people I know getting rolled by a bunch of tryhards. Is there really no way to make that dream come true!?

Cyks
Mar 17, 2008

The trenches of IT can scar a muppet for life
With the only transferable item right now being player isk donations to a Corporation and vice versa, you aren't going to find many ways to scam. You could try making an alt corp, getting pubbies to join it and convincing them to donate for clones and then taking the money and running but that sounds like a lot of effort for very little gain. You can't even tax them yet.

Best bet right now is to just hoard as much isk as possible and wait from them to announce player driven markets and eve to dust transactions, then purchase as much items you can for the inevitable price jump. If they ever do decide to do allow the transfer between the two games.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Cyks posted:

With the only transferable item right now being player isk donations to a Corporation and vice versa, you aren't going to find many ways to scam. You could try making an alt corp, getting pubbies to join it and convincing them to donate for clones and then taking the money and running but that sounds like a lot of effort for very little gain. You can't even tax them yet.

Best bet right now is to just hoard as much isk as possible and wait from them to announce player driven markets and eve to dust transactions, then purchase as much items you can for the inevitable price jump. If they ever do decide to do allow the transfer between the two games.

Hence the theorycrafting and figuring out how to do it now without it being a flash in the pan type of event, and how to work it down the line.

Edit - the second part of this is more PVP on the Market and not really "scamming" as I'm using the term. And they will allow transfer between the two games, its just sorting out the entire economy to a point where nothing gets messed horrendously on day one.

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jun 3, 2013

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless


You can see when their drop uplinks died. My LLAV was hungry.

Lassitude
Oct 21, 2003

PerrineClostermann posted:



You can see when their drop uplinks died. My LLAV was hungry.

This was from just running people over or something?

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Lassitude posted:

This was from just running people over or something?

Up until my first death, yeah. Then I got one or two actual kills and blew up a tank...and a few LAVs by ramming.

Samahiel
Mar 17, 2009

Uba Stij posted:

The one from a while ago? It's up but its associated with the AAR and I haven't been told to make it either public yet by anyone higher up the foodchain.

Post it. Post everything. NEVER. STOP. POSTING.

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

PerrineClostermann posted:



You can see when their drop uplinks died. My LLAV was hungry.

I'm with you. LLAVing is my preferred solo playstyle now.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Samahiel posted:

Post it. Post everything. NEVER. STOP. POSTING.

After Action Report from 5/25/2013 battle, "Operation: Punch You With Our Face"

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nql3pTzqr_KUXtgKzxzI5uXiM-XhqXWNkKJYE7uvFRY

imperialparadox
Apr 17, 2012

Don't tell me no one has told the girl she isn't exactly human!

Cyks posted:

Best bet right now is to just hoard as much isk as possible and wait from them to announce player driven markets and eve to dust transactions, then purchase as much items you can for the inevitable price jump. If they ever do decide to do allow the transfer between the two games.

Personally I wonder how it will affect things if they integrate the markets. I'm assuming earning ISK in Eve is quicker than earning ISK in Dust, but I only play Dust casually so I could be mistaken. My main thought is that it wouldn't affect Eve that must, but if an Eve player transferred ISK straight up to a DUST player, couldn't that keep them in the best dropsuits and gear for ages?

Seems a bit tricky since it would be an artificial integration of economies.

Present
Oct 28, 2011

by Shine
It bugs me when people talk about Dust like it's Eve. What's the deal with the security concerns? It's not like you have to move assets to another system to set up for a push or whatever and risk spies finding out about it. You open a window and select Join Battle on whatever battle the directors came up with. And our tactics in-game? I doubt anyone is going to be pouring over our match vids looking for a weakness to exploit when our corp KDR is 1.2. And the scamming? What do we even have to entice people with? In Eve there's free skillbooks, training, and ops as part of one of the biggest powerblocks in the game. But in Dust we're nobodies.

Big thanks for the AAR/vid tho.

Edit - drat, pink, you need to start using ADS on that Tac rifle.

Present fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jun 3, 2013

Shart Carbuncle
Aug 4, 2004

Star Trek:
The Motion Picture
I don't think they're keen to have ISK moving between the games like that any time soon, if ever. Dust players who aren't into Eve would be at a drastic disadvantage compared to Eve players. I mean, I never really figured out how to play Eve, and even my inactive account has a quantity of ISK that would be obscene in Dust terms.

Dusts's progression would pretty much explode. Not to mention the fact that it doesn't have a real economy. I mean, the market isn't actually a market. ISK in Eve is treated as a currency, while in Dust it's simply another vector of character progression alongside AUR and SP.

A lot of other stuff would have to change before transactions across the games would make sense.

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spazzhole
Aug 2, 2003

Dear Sandy,

Ever since that day I hit you, I've felt like we haven't been as close.

Present posted:

It bugs me when people talk about Dust like it's Eve. What's the deal with the security concerns? It's not like you have to move assets to another system to set up for a push or whatever and risk spies finding out about it. You open a window and select Join Battle on whatever battle the directors came up with. And our tactics in-game? I doubt anyone is going to be pouring over our match vids looking for a weakness to exploit when our corp KDR is 1.2. And the scamming? What do we even have to entice people with? In Eve there's free skillbooks, training, and ops as part of one of the biggest powerblocks in the game. But in Dust we're nobodies.

Big thanks for the AAR/vid tho.

Opsec doesn't exist at the line level. The only thing we have even remotely opsec is director skype

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