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Drunk Badger posted:I've had some time with the T3i now, and it's a pretty good camera. I'm noticing a lot of noise once I get to 800 ISO, but I'm wondering how it compares to the T4i or T5i. Is there enough of a difference where it would be worth upgrading while I'm still able to do so, or is it all close enough that I shouldn't be so picky and I can take care of the noise through other means anyways? Being new to better cameras, I'm not sure what I should be expecting, but I'm enjoying it enough that I'm fine with throwing more money at it. Upgrading from a Rebel to another Rebel is kind of tedious, as (correct me if I am wrong) all of them with the exception of the T1i have really similar sensors. I would save your money and buy a pre-owned 7d or 60d in a few months after they market is flooded with people trying to afford the (rumoured to be expensive as poo poo) 7d mk II, or the (seeing how far they can drown the line) 70d, respectively
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the_lion posted:The 24-70mm 2.8 is a nicer lens for sure, but I have the 24-105mm f4 myself and I shot a few wedding. They were mostly outside, inside I switched to 50mm. I would like to look into the 3rd party lenses, I just don't know how to tell if they will crop on full frame sensors or not. VVV Cool, thanks. iSheep fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jun 6, 2013 |
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Jun 6, 2013 17:44
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iSheep posted:I would like to look into the 3rd party lenses, I just don't know how to tell if they will crop on full frame sensors or not. Just look for it on b&h. It will say on the features/spec list on whether it was a crop or not.
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Jun 6, 2013 18:51
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I'm pretty sure it's the exact same filter so there shouldn't be much improvement. I've a T3i too and yeah, the noise on higher ISOs is something I'm starting to really notice. All Canon crop sensors perform the same. If you trust the graphs, the T3 is actually one of the best performers! With NR on they're different, but that's only for in-camera JPEG processing, correct? Supposedly the 7dii still isn't coming out for a while, but the 70D is scheduled for July. What I'm saying is you should buy my 60D so I can buy a 6D.
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Jun 6, 2013 18:55
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Actually, the T3 with its "bigger" pixels should theoretically have a better diffraction limited aperture than any of the other 18mp APS-C sensors. Landscape shooters rejoice?
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I saw something on my 60D last night that was weird. The exposure indicator split into three evenly spaced indicators and started flashing, and wouldn't let me shoot. It's like it was in some sort of bizarre bracketing mode, which I don't know how I could have turned on, but also forbade shooting. What does it mean?
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Jun 7, 2013 01:47
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Seamonster posted:Actually, the T3 with its "bigger" pixels should theoretically have a better diffraction limited aperture than any of the other 18mp APS-C sensors. Landscape shooters rejoice? For the same display size, it doesn’t matter.
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Jun 7, 2013 01:55
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torgeaux posted:Except in extreme environmental conditions, you're better off with hood only for protection. Desert, near the surf on the beach, shooting from moving vehicle in dusty conditions, rain (to complete the weather seal). The lens is not going to be hurt by dust or a fingerprint, and cleaning it is no harder than cleaning the filter. You're absolutely correct. If I'm doing something specific and in a controlled environment no filter. But for general shooting in the wild (in the city) or at parties or events I keep one on. Plus a filter has saved by 24L twice - once being shoved at a concert (lens first) into a railing, the other being mugged. Because I'm retarded I going to frame the broken filters.
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Jun 7, 2013 03:31
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It's not a big deal to me, I just didn't know if it was any better for a few extra bucks. Thanks for the advice.
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Jun 7, 2013 03:33
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The adjustment wheel on my Rebel XTi is acting up. Sometimes both directions register as rolling it left, therefore trying to increase exposure/aperture/decrease shutter speed acts in the opposite way intended, so rolling the wheel back and forth just pegs everything to the lower limit. I realize the thing is an antique and I already wanted to buy a new camera, but I'd like to wait for the 70d/7d2 before deciding. Googling indicates it's a common problem. Is there any way to set/reset exposure/aperture/speed without using that wheel so I can limp along for a month or two? The problem only occurs sometimes, but that sometimes is always when you need the camera. edit: immediately after posting I realized I have a battery grip and that probably solves my problems. I'm stupid.
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Jun 7, 2013 20:34
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 aaaaaaahhhhhh Excited.
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Jun 7, 2013 22:52
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I read that as a 60D and was wondering why the hell you were paying 2 grand for a 60D 
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Jun 7, 2013 23:24
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It was also nearly 100 bux off at Amazon so not a bad way to go.
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Jun 7, 2013 23:31
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fivre posted:All Canon crop sensors perform the same. If you trust the graphs, the T3 is actually one of the best performers! With NR on they're different, but that's only for in-camera JPEG processing, correct? T4i has a better processor that reduces noise comparatively to the T3i and below if I remember right. Also I just went from a T2i to a 60D and it is such an improvement, so yes upgrade to this man's 60D.
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Jun 7, 2013 23:55
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60D is great, that gyroscope thing is dead handy.
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Jun 8, 2013 00:11
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doctor 7 posted:T4i has a better processor that reduces noise comparatively to the T3i and below if I remember right. It does have a newer processor, yes. I just don't know if that matters for RAW noise. Does the camera apply any noise reduction to RAWs, or only to JPEGs?
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Jun 8, 2013 01:36
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I've got room in my case for one more lens. 50mm F/1.8 II or 40mm f/2.8 STM?
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Drunk Badger posted:I've got room in my case for one more lens. 50mm F/1.8 II or 40mm f/2.8 STM? 50 1.8. You can't walk back a step and get a faster lens.
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Jun 8, 2013 04:44
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Not being able to walk back a step is a good argument for the wider lens. A stop and a half isn't much and the wider perspective will open up a lot of shots he couldn't otherwise take. What Canon really needs is a cheap EF-S 30/1.8.
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Jun 8, 2013 05:53
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A lot of it depends on what you plan on doing with them and what you have available to you already. I have both and if you told me I had to get rid of one, I would ditch the 40. I take more portraits than anything else so the 50 is nicer for me. They both have their advantages though.
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Jun 8, 2013 06:22
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fivre posted:It does have a newer processor, yes. I just don't know if that matters for RAW noise. Does the camera apply any noise reduction to RAWs, or only to JPEGs? I assumed it was both but now that you mention it I honestly don't know. As far as I'm aware the 60D is superior in literally every other regard beyond the DIGIC IV vs. DIGIC V.
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Jun 8, 2013 06:26
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I have the stock IS lens with the t3i that covers both MMs, so I won't be adding anything new there. I know I heard a lot about the poorer build quality of the 50mm, is the 40mm better there? Otherwise, I don't know exactly what I'd be doing with it, I just don't have any prime lenses.
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I would say the 50mm would complement your kit lens more than the 40mm, the gimmick of the 40mm is that it has a very small profile so the overall size of your camera is very small when you use it, focal length and aperture wise it is not as much of a step up from the kit lens.
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Remo posted:I would say the 50mm would complement your kit lens more than the 40mm, the gimmick of the 40mm is that it has a very small profile so the overall size of your camera is very small when you use it, focal length and aperture wise it is not as much of a step up from the kit lens. I dont' think you get the magic of 40mm pancakes. Everyone should own a 40mm pancake. They're just... wonderful. And saying that a full stop or two isn't an improvement over the kit lens is silly, same with saying that "the focal length" isn't a step up. That doesn't even make sense! It's a prime lens, what are you expecting!
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Its a full stop+ over the kit lens but the 50mm is a full stop+ over and above that. Part of the aperture advantage of the 40mm is also negated by the IS of the kit lens. In terms of focal length, you are right, and anyway the 50mm is also covered by the kit lens. I am a portrait person, so I guess I am biased towards lenses which are more suited for portraiture.
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Jun 8, 2013 07:47
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The build quality of the 50 1.8 II is complete garbage so if you're doing anything rugged or whatever, get the 40mm. Both are great lenses. I personally prefer the 40mm, I think it just takes better photos on a crop body.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:The build quality of the 50 1.8 II is complete garbage so if you're doing anything rugged or whatever, get the 40mm. I've owned both and agree. The pancake is far from a gimmick lens. It's one of the few great values in canon's current lineup.. It's incredibly sharp, good build, and compact. The 50 1.8 is soft, with horrible build quality.
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The pancake is amazing, I never once touched my 50 again after using it. So sharp.
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Somebody tell me this is a scam. It just seems way to good to be true. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/130919459474?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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ManiacMatt posted:Somebody tell me this is a scam. It just seems way to good to be true. Directing you to purchase on an outside site? Zero feedback? Yeah, it’s a scam.
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That's what I figured, not that I really need a new camera anyways. I just need to go out and take more pictures.
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Gambl0r posted:I've owned both and agree. The pancake is far from a gimmick lens. It's one of the few great values in canon's current lineup.. It's incredibly sharp, good build, and compact. The 50 1.8 is soft, with horrible build quality. The 50 1.8 is not soft. And if stopped down to 2.8 I'd bet it's sharper than the 40 mm wide open.
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http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3224578 Take this for what it is (numbers that don't really make much sense to most of us) but this guy claimed the 40 is still sharper then the 50 at 2.8 but once you go to f4 and above the 1.8 is sharper. But really, it's splitting hairs. They cost next to nothing in photo dollars so try them both out and sell the one you don't like.
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Claw Massage posted:http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3224578 Sure, the 50 was sharper in the center (for crop users in particular that would be meaningful) and the 40 better average (so apparently much sharper at the edges). They are both basically free, and I'd recommend the 40 to lots of users, but it's benefit isn't relative sharpitude.
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Yeah get both, why not? If you've got more than one body it's handy, I had the 50 on my Canon EOS5 film camera (RIP  ) and the 40 on my 600D
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Yeah get both, why not? If you've got more than one body it's handy, I had the 50 on my Canon EOS5 film camera (RIP I would if I had the room in my bag, but it's packed as full as I could get it, and there's just one little space that could fit either. To my uneducated eye, they seem to take the same quality picture. Is the 40's build quality better than the 50's? That is probably my biggest concern at the moment.
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Film is by now (IMO) one of those lower cost hobbies that the 50mm 1.8 is basically required for.
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BeanTaco posted:Everybody get the 40mm pancake. What is wrong with you people why would you recommend the 50 over the 40. Yeah maybe its a little better for portraiture but in general the 40mm will behave at least comparably well if not better while also being a massive leap ahead in that it turns your camera into something you actually want to carry around all the time.
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I really wish it was a new, $200 but nicely done 35 mm prime and not 40 mm, but yeah I think I'm going to go with the pancake next month too. I love my thrifty fifty but I want a wider option on the cheap.
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My girlfriend got a T2i like a week ago and said she wanted her setup to be exactly like mine (T2i with Magic Lantern, Tamron 17-50 2.8 VC and Canon 50 1.8). I tried to convince her to go with the pancake instead of the 50, because she said she wanted a wider prime than the 50 and it seemed like more of a walkaround lens from all the sample shots I've seen from it. Plus she got the kit 18-55 3.5-5.6 with her T2i and said it's a slow piece of poo poo and refuses to use it, even though I didn't find that when I had my kit lens after first getting my T2i (it wasn't outstanding but it wasn't unusable either), so she's confining herself to one lens right now until she can save up for the Tamron zoom and it'd make more sense to have a slightly wider one that can be used in more situations. But she ended up getting the 50 1.8 anyway. Oh well. She mostly shoots portraits anyway so I guess it made more sense for her v  v
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