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Gensuki posted:...Wait what? Miracle makes it so your health is only reduced to 1 instead of you being outright murdered, and it specifically can't trigger if (HP<1) ... How did it trigger twice, before Morgan healed with Renewal? By final boss battle I meant the final level, I should of been a bit more clear I guess. First Miracle triggered from a hit from Grima itself and Morgan managed dodged the rest of the enemies dogpiling on to finish her off. Her turn, triggered Renewal for the heals and took a free kill on a melee-locked enemy. Next turn they piled back on, she dodged most of the hits and triggered Miracle again and healed up on her next turn with Renewal. Really, really lucky streak there that left half of the enemies on the map in a dumb position and were easily taken out with the rest of my team for no damage in return. The blunder was allowing her to get ganged up on in the first place, it should of been Henry taking the hits with Nosferatu equipped!
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Internet Kraken posted:Don't really get why males can't be pegasus knights. Is it just a series tradition at this point? Cause I would totally ride a pegasus if I could. Same reason why female units can't be barbarians/warriors. By which I mean there isn't really a reason beyond tradition.
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I think I've played this game too much. Hard difficulty is now breathtakingly easy (although first dozen levels of lunatic are still complete bullshit), I think I've seen almost all the support conversations, and I now have a somewhat unhealthy appreciation for Cherche. Anyone know a good Fire Emblem or similar strategy game to move on from here with? I still need a strategy game fix, but I think I've gone as far with this one as I can.
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Wind God Sety posted:Same reason why female units can't be barbarians/warriors. By which I mean there isn't really a reason beyond tradition. As to Barbarians and berserkers, remember, they're shirtless. I'm pretty sure there have been, like Michalis, female units that would have had to be fighters or barbarians in order to be their starting secondary class. There have been male pegasus knights, but they are in the minority. In fact, I think there might only be 1? Blompkin posted:Anyone know a good Fire Emblem or similar strategy game to move on from here with? I still need a strategy game fix, but I think I've gone as far with this one as I can. FE 9 and 10 are pretty good, just turn off the battle animations for 9 unless you liked marionette/ragdoll models. Gensuki fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Jul 23, 2013 |
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Any tips for Chapter 11? Playing on Hard Classic NOBODY DIES and I'm having a lot of trouble with it. Specifically the last rush of enemies with the boss, but I always seem to be getting overwhelmed and the flying enemies can just circle around my front line and get to my squishy healers. In other news, I hate you all for having good Chroms and MUs. Mine are mediocre at best at level 15 or so, and with this string of bad luck I haven't even bothered with Donny much because he'll just suck as well.
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Do not rush at the enemy, specifically the enemy ranges of the troops right in front of Gangrel. You get in their range, Gangrel will start moving. Stay back, let your best defensive unit soak up and bait a couple units at a time.
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Tae posted:Do not rush at the enemy, specifically the enemy ranges of the troops right in front of Gangrel. You get in their range, Gangrel will start moving. Stay back, let your best defensive unit soak up and bait a couple units at a time. I'm just getting overwhelmed by all the reinforcements. I tried advancing in a line to occupy all of the mid-map forts but it leaves my army spread to thin, so I can't really kill the Wyverns before they beeline for my squishiest character.
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Gensuki posted:As to Barbarians and berserkers, remember, they're shirtless. I'm pretty sure there have been, like Michalis, female units that would have had to be fighters or barbarians in order to be their starting secondary class. They could always, ya know, not have female barbarians/berserkers be shirtless. I don't seriously think they've considered the idea of female barbarians but then realized "oh we can't make her shirtless" and decided not to. Blompkin posted:I think I've played this game too much. Hard difficulty is now breathtakingly easy (although first dozen levels of lunatic are still complete bullshit), I think I've seen almost all the support conversations, and I now have a somewhat unhealthy appreciation for Cherche. FE7 through 11 are also released outside of Japan and are all pretty good (though 11 is a remake of the first game, so it's pretty dated and lacks a lot of mechanics introduced later in the series). Personally I'd recommend FE9 (Path of Radiance) for the Gamecube if you can find it, but none of them are really bad choices to start with besides 10 (Radiant Dawn for the Wii), since it's a direct sequel to 9 and doesn't work nearly as well on its own.
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Wind God Sety posted:They could always, ya know, not have female barbarians/berserkers be shirtless. I don't seriously think they've considered the idea of female barbarians but then realized "oh we can't make her shirtless" and decided not to. Saying they could just "not have a shirtless barbarian" is basically saying they could just not have the horse be flying". The Barbarian is powered by its pecs and abs, even in a game with graphics this simple would be bordering on heresy... Basically, if you couldn't see the muscles, how would you know it's a berserker? It might as well be a Hero. While this is a joke, I really do believe this is the basic reason we don't have female barbarian/berserker classes. Look through past FE games and tell me how many Barbarians/Berserkers are wearing shirts. I haven't played many of the first 6 FE games, but I've heard a female Warrior and a Male pegasus rider mentioned before...
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I'm pretty sure that the male Peg Knight is a statistical anomaly.
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Gensuki posted:Saying they could just "not have a shirtless barbarian" is basically saying they could just not have the horse be flying". The Barbarian is powered by its pecs and abs, even in a game with graphics this simple would be bordering on heresy... All the Berserkers in FE11/12 have shirts.
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Gensuki posted:Saying they could just "not have a shirtless barbarian" is basically saying they could just not have the horse be flying". The Barbarian is powered by its pecs and abs, even in a game with graphics this simple would be bordering on heresy... Barbarians not wearing shirts hasn't stopped them from giving barbarians shirts even in games where they don't wear shirts.
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Gensuki posted:Saying they could just "not have a shirtless barbarian" is basically saying they could just not have the horse be flying". The Barbarian is powered by its pecs and abs, even in a game with graphics this simple would be bordering on heresy... What other people said, and also you can have a muscly berserker woman and also give her a top. They're not exactly mutually exclusive. To my knowledge there's never been a playable male peg knight or female warrior/berserker, though I've never played the first three games. I've heard there are maybe enemy male peg knights in FE3, but I don't know for certain.
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I got Awakening for my birthday  I was thinking of making a magic centered avatar character considering I probably won't get magic characters for a couple chapters, at least. (I think?) Is that a viable way of doing things? And on a scale from FE8 to FE5, how hard of a game is Awakening?
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It's as hard as you make it. Normal is ridiculously easy and Hard is more comparable to the more challenging normal modes than FE5 or whatever, but Lunatic and Lunatic+ are awful and bullshit. Pick your poison!
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DOOP posted:I got Awakening for my birthday Making a magic centered avatar is not only viable but is the optimal choice. You can have your avatar do literally anything so just pick whatever class is your favorite and aim for that. You get a competent magic user in only 2 chapters so don't feel like you need to fill a gap in your team that won't be there. I found the game challenging my first time despite playing previous Fire Emblems, but on reflection that was entirely because I didn't use the pair up system at all. If you actually listen to the new mechanics hard should be a fine difficulty for your first run. EDIT: The only base unit type you don't get for a decent amount of time is Wyvern Rider, though if you really want one early you can use a second seal to reclass someone into it.
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DOOP posted:I got Awakening for my birthday A no-grind run on Hard is around Path of Radiance on hard difficulty, or slightly harder then SS on hard. Actually, here's a list I made when someone asked a similar question: The Sword of Seals: Normal Fire Emblem: Hector Normal Sacred Stones: Ephraim Hard Path of Radiance: Hard Radiant Dawn: Easy Shadow Dragon: Hard 1 probably? I only played Normal and H5. New Mystery: Hard
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Internet Kraken posted:Making a magic centered avatar is not only viable but is the optimal choice. You can have your avatar do literally anything so just pick whatever class is your favorite and aim for that. You get a competent magic user in only 2 chapters so don't feel like you need to fill a gap in your team that won't be there. You also never get any Barbarians, though a huge chunk of the cast can second seal into them.
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So I did some of those double duel things with my brother. We got through most of them easily, but is it even possible to beat Tiki's Wyverns and Shadow Army without a team of sorcerers with forged nosferatu? On Tiki's Wyverns we got through everything but Tiki, who crushed all 6 of our units because she procced aether on every single attack. Shadow Army is just absurd. All the entombed have skills like luna, aether, and loving lethality. On top of that pretty much all of them have counter too which is impossible to avoid in this mode.
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So, I got this game with SMT4 because of that promotional thing, and started playing it today. Sully's very first level up in this game was an almost perfect level (no magic). Will she always be this ridculous, or am I being tricked by the RNG?
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Livingtrope posted:So, I got this game with SMT4 because of that promotional thing, and started playing it today. Sully's very first level up in this game was an almost perfect level (no magic). Will she always be this ridculous, or am I being tricked by the RNG? Sully's no more amazing at levels than any other unit, but if she turns out good for you, hey, go hog wild. It's Fire Emblem Awakening, literally every unit is amazing.
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Growths tend to be pretty high for the most part in this game compared to the others, but don't bank on near-perfect levels like that all the time, barring 2-3 characters.
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alcharagia posted:Sully's no more amazing at levels than any other unit, but if she turns out good for you, hey, go hog wild. It's Fire Emblem Awakening, literally every unit is amazing. Except for Vaike. gently caress you Vaike 
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Internet Kraken posted:Except for Vaike. gently caress you Vaike How to make Vaike amazing: turn him into a barbarian as early as is practical.
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That doesn't fix his personality and portrait though  What I'm saying is gently caress Vaike forever.
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SC Bracer posted:That doesn't fix his personality and portrait though Both are great, gently caress you forever.
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I remember when my brother started playing this game he intentionally used Vaike as bait and got him killed on the first turn you get him. When I asked him why he said anyone dumb enough to forget their own weapon couldn't be a good unit. I couldn't really tell him he was wrong either  VVV I've never had a bad Sumia, but I think a way to make her surprisingly good is make her a knight. She turns into a complete beast that can double everything while never taking damage from nonmagical units. Though speaking of Sumia, why is she the only first gen female that lacks a good chunk of male supports? Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Jul 25, 2013 |
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Sumia is also very luck-dependent--she really needs to hit her strength growths. If she hits them, she's incredible, and if she doesn't, she just can't kill anything. I've also never managed to make Maribelle be worth anything.
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Internet Kraken posted:Though speaking of Sumia, why is she the only first gen female that lacks a good chunk of male supports? I figure it's to mirror Chrom's limited options for female S-Ranks. Ignoring the Avatar, Chrom only has four possible female S-Ranks (Sumia, Sully, Maribelle, Olivia), and Sumia only has four possible male S-Ranks (Chrom, Frederick, Gaius, Henry).
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cheetah7071 posted:Sumia is also very luck-dependent--she really needs to hit her strength growths. If she hits them, she's incredible, and if she doesn't, she just can't kill anything. Maribelle's in this odd spot where she comes in as a healer but doesn't get the skill to make healing really good (stafftouch) without reclassing. So she gets less levels than Lissa and unless they are exceptionally good she is going to feel subpar by comparison since her growths aren't much different. I had run where I reclassed her to a mage and used her as an actual combat unit and she did surprisingly well. Eventually I reclassed her into Valkyrie after running through Sage and she was one of my strongest team members. She can be really good, but I think you need a second seal to her there. Most units don't have that problem. W.T. Fits posted:I figure it's to mirror Chrom's limited options for female S-Ranks. Ignoring the Avatar, Chrom only has four possible female S-Ranks (Sumia, Sully, Maribelle, Olivia), and Sumia only has four possible male S-Ranks (Chrom, Frederick, Gaius, Henry). I guess that makes some sense, though I figured Chrom only got less supports because who he marries has more influence on the story (albeit not that much). Would be hilarious if you could pair him up with Tharja though 
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SC Bracer posted:That doesn't fix his personality and portrait though Yeah, but he's got tenure, so what are you going to do?
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I've built her up into a fairly decent Sage with galeforce, but it's up to you if it's worth the time and trouble or not. Stahl and Virion always underperform in every playthrough I've gone through. Stahl's not terrible, but he's slightly inferior to all the other knights, and Virion just isn't very good at anything. Vaike is okay, he just misses a lot.
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I've never had Maribelle not turn out amazing. Though her defense will forever be poo poo. Chrom can only support those women because those are the only ones available before Lucina is born.
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Manatee Cannon posted:I've never had Maribelle not turn out amazing. Though her defense will forever be poo poo. Cherche is the only woman who shows up after her birth. Nowi and Panne make sense because Lucina is human, and they were doing the weird unrequited love thing with Cordelia, but there's not much of an excuse for Chrom not being able to pair with Tharja or Miriel.
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Manatee Cannon posted:Chrom can only support those women because those are the only ones available before Lucina is born. I guess Panne and Nowi make sense because they're different races, but you still have Miriel. And I've never had a good Sully. It's like every time she'll just level up skill and hp, and while Stahl usually was never great he still always outclassed her.
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Virion has tons of style, which is important He made a pretty decent griffon rider when paired up with my Trickster Avatar though. I was going to use him as a Sniper on my very first playthrough but all 5 of his levels were two or one stat so I got pissed and benched him.Manatee Cannon posted:Chrom can only support those women because those are the only ones available before Lucina is born. Tharja, Cordelia, Nowi, Panne, and Miriel are all recruited before the end of the first act though. EDIT: Beaten twice! Just like playing lunatic  EDIT 2: Surprised so many people have bad Sully's. Everytime I use her she turns out great. On my failed Lunatic run she became Frederick 2.0. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Jul 25, 2013 |
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Oh yeah. I don't know what I was thinking there.
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I can see the reasoning they didn't have Tharja though, considering her obsession over the Avatar, and Cordelia has the unrequited love thing. Miriel I have no reason why.
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Miriel is too into science for Chrom to hang out with, I guess? vv
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