Torment: Tides of Numenera - Turns out there is room for 2!

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Drifter: Oct 22, 2000; Belated Bear Witness; Soiled Meat

All I'm saying is I would like to be able to see it all (or what my stats/alignment/whatever allows), rather than be funneled through it.

If large portions of content are going to be time-gated(or whatever), requiring several playthroughs really would need significant branching in order to keep things fresh.

I played the second (third?) chapter of Witcher 2 twice (loved it), but I only played the entire game through once within a single span of time. Alpha Protocol I played through twice. Witcher had huge content differences, AP had huge character differences.

Multiple playthroughs really serve to highlight the repetitive nature of the gameplay/interaction, so if the gameplay's fun and the story is captivating and they develop a game that can sustain those things I don't think I'd have any sort of problem playing through it twice (or thrice) to see different aspects of a character. What I wouldn't want to do is have to play the exact same game/character twice because some *game device* killed me or prevented me from exploring further while I was taking my time.

Drifter fucked around with this message at 02:29 on May 24, 2013

# ? May 24, 2013 02:23

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 14:51

Great Rumbler: Jan 30, 2013; For I am a dog, you see.

This was posted today on the Torment Facebook page:

"Before the Fall"

# ? May 24, 2013 18:08

Drifter: Oct 22, 2000; Belated Bear Witness; Soiled Meat

The Reaper Collectors are everywhere, jesus.

# ? May 24, 2013 18:16

CottonWolf: Jul 20, 2012; Good ideas generator

I keep forgetting that Torment is ostensibly set on Earth. But yeah, more cool concept art.

# ? May 24, 2013 21:42

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Great Rumbler posted:

This was posted today on the Torment Facebook page:

"Before the Fall"

Real talk, if this game is able to capture a moment of staring down at Earth surrounded by borderline alien technology all while telling a great and emotional story. When I look upon the planet and reflect upon everything it took to get to that point; I might just pause a minute just to shed a tear.

# ? May 24, 2013 23:08

2house2fly: Nov 14, 2012; You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

I Just hope there's a decent amount of playing the game with Earth and a starfield in the background, because that would make this game the closest thing yet to my dream game, a turn-based isometric space opera RPG.

# ? May 24, 2013 23:46

Drifter: Oct 22, 2000; Belated Bear Witness; Soiled Meat

Oh man, I really have a thing for beautiful skyboxes. I know we're looking down most of the time, but if we could look down on the planet and see a little bit of space and stars and planetary scale that would be the most wonderful of things.

Also, If any of you people have yet to try it, Wizardry 8, aka literally one of the best old school rpgs, is out on GOG right now. My first rpg was Might and Magic 3 and it hooked me (all those magic wells to drink from :allears:

), but you owe it to yourself to give Wiz8 a shot.

It doesn't have the sweet rear end characters of Torment or...Baldur's Gate, I guess, but drat it's a really fun game to experience. I really liked the combat, too.

# ? May 25, 2013 04:30

Furism: Feb 21, 2006; Live long and headbang

Great Rumbler posted:

This was posted today on the Torment Facebook page:

"Before the Fall"

That's gorgeous. InExile really has amazing concept artists. I wish Obsidian would release more stuff like this for P:E :saddowns:

# ? May 25, 2013 11:46

Great Rumbler: Jan 30, 2013; For I am a dog, you see.

Furism posted:

That's gorgeous. InExile really has amazing concept artists. I wish Obsidian would release more stuff like this for P:E

Here's the artist's site:

http://andreewallin.com/

# ? May 25, 2013 16:04

CottonWolf: Jul 20, 2012; Good ideas generator

While we're on the topic of concept art, the guy who drew the Bloom, Chang Yuan, seems to put most of his stuff here. It's also really good.

# ? May 25, 2013 16:22

Noricae: Nov 19, 2004; cheese?

Thanks for those portfolios/galleries - it's great seeing what else these artists have done. Now, how to combine the two of them so we get super clean cyberpunk cityscapes with gnarled weird bits jutting out all over.

# ? May 25, 2013 22:01

AceOfFlames: Oct 9, 2012

Great Rumbler posted:

This was posted today on the Torment Facebook page:

"Before the Fall"

"Goddamn it, I told you we were supposed to make a left at LV-223, not LV-426!"

# ? May 26, 2013 17:58

Grim: Sep 11, 2003; Grimey Drawer

torment.inxile-entertainment.com posted:

We have not imported the Kickstarter pledge data. We expect this to be done by the end of May/beginning of June. The pledge will not show up on your account until then. We will send out an email when the Kickstarter data is imported and people can fully manage their pledges.

What's the hold-up I wonder? It's been that long I can't even remember if I paid extra for an add-on...

# ? Jun 10, 2013 03:36

stille: Oct 9, 2012

New interview with Kevin Saunders and Adam Heine.

http://www.irontowerstudio.com/forum/index.php/topic,3339.0.html

# ? Jun 13, 2013 16:02

CrookedB: Jun 27, 2011; Stupid newbee

That is one hell of an interview.

# ? Jun 13, 2013 17:24

freeb0rn: Jan 22, 2005

CrookedB posted:

That is one hell of an interview.

Seriously, wow. Great answers.

# ? Jun 13, 2013 17:35

Noricae: Nov 19, 2004; cheese?

I love that these guys are making the sequel; their focus is spot on

# ? Jun 13, 2013 18:06

omeg: Sep 3, 2012

Finally got some time to read through that and wow, it's amazing. The best part for me:

quote:

Ideally, players won�t ever reach a point where something that they feel they should be able to do (given the context of the world and game you�ve created for them) isn�t an option. When this does happen, I�d think about why, and whether there�s something I should change in the system or the situation to keep my contract with the player.

# ? Jun 14, 2013 15:45

CrookedB: Jun 27, 2011; Stupid newbee

At the RPG Codex forums Colin McComb and Kevin Saunders got asked how linear the game's going to be compared to PS:T. Here's what they replied:

Kevin Saunders posted:

villain of the story posted:
are we to understand that game will be fairly linear?

I'm hesitant to answer your question directly because I don't know precisely what implications come with your definition of "fairly linear." =) So instead I'll say some things that maybe get at what you and others may be curious about.

When the two aspects are at odds with each other, we are favoring greater reactivity over greater freedom. (Generally speaking, the more non-linear the game, the more effort it is to have robust reactivity because there are more permutations to account for. This is not an absolute.)

You will often have choices about what you do/where you go next. You won't be able to go anywhere at any time. In general, I expect players will have considerable freedom, but we'll use story-based gates (and other techniques as well) to allow us to create the high degree of reactivity we want while keeping the scope of work manageable.

Colin McComb posted:

Infinitron posted:
People want comparisons. How linear will it be compared to PS:T?

Looking at my story flowchart, I'd say: less linear. We do have major story beats that will remain the same; as ksaun [i.e. Kevin Saunders] noted, we're using story-based gates and other techniques for some pacing control, so you'll have to hit certain of those gates to progress. There is a distinct critical path through the game. However, there are places where the story diverges considerably based on your choices and actions.

# ? Jun 20, 2013 17:10

Schurik: Sep 13, 2008

Sounds a lot like The Witcher 2 to me, which is a excellent example of meaningful choices along a linear path.

# ? Jun 20, 2013 21:17

Great Rumbler: Jan 30, 2013; For I am a dog, you see.

# ? Jul 9, 2013 22:31

FRINGE: May 23, 2003; title stolen for lf posting

"The Forge of the Night Sky" by Chang Yuan, showing the Ruins of Ossiphagan, which was described in our third Kickstarter Update:

https://torment.inxile-entertainment.com/media

edit: well beaten I guess but I included the context and link :colbert:

# ? Jul 10, 2013 01:52

Brother None: Feb 25, 2013; On the line for InXile

Alright guys, we finished processing Kickstarter donations and they should now show up on your account (or register an account with your Kickstarter emails).

We're closing off and finalizing a lot of the Numenera book stuff soon, so if you are eligible for a physical copy of the books, please input your shipping address so we can get it to you as it comes out.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 03:34

Chairchucker: Nov 14, 2006; to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Wow, I forgot how much I pledged to Torment for not even any physical rewards.

Worth it.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 07:23

Sleep of Bronze: Feb 9, 2013; If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Brother None posted:

Alright guys, we finished processing Kickstarter donations and they should now show up on your account (or register an account with your Kickstarter emails).

Hm. Still getting the spiel about 'as we process Kickstarter donations'. Anyone else?

# ? Jul 13, 2013 07:59

adamarama: Mar 20, 2009

I'm getting the same but I'm not due to receive any physical rewards.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 08:46

Brother None: Feb 25, 2013; On the line for InXile

Sleep of Bronze posted:

Hm. Still getting the spiel about 'as we process Kickstarter donations'. Anyone else?

Hah, didn't notice that, yeah, the text on the "account" tab needs to be updated. Your donation will show up under the "Donations" tab.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 08:47

Sleep of Bronze: Feb 9, 2013; If I could only somewhere find Aias, master of the warcry, then we could go forth and again ignite our battle-lust, even in the face of the gods themselves.

Brother None posted:

Hah, didn't notice that, yeah, the text on the "account" tab needs to be updated. Your donation will show up under the "Donations" tab.

Ah, excellent, it is there. Thanks, was worried for a second.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 09:15

lordfrikk: Mar 11, 2010; Oh, say it ain't fuckin' so,
you stupid fuck!

It says my e-mail is not in the database even though it's the correct one (I don't even have any other e-mail since like 2001) and I backed the project during the regular KS period. I tried to log in to Ranger Center (Wasteland 2 account management thingy) and it said the same even though I remember being able to log in earlier to get the free Bard's Tale code). Weirdly enough, the password reset feature worked there. :iiam:

# ? Jul 13, 2013 09:19

Brother None: Feb 25, 2013; On the line for InXile

lordfrikk posted:

It says my e-mail is not in the database even though it's the correct one (I don't even have any other e-mail since like 2001)

Ranger and Torment Center work a little differently in this. Just create an account using the same email as you did on Kickstarter.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 09:21

Furism: Feb 21, 2006; Live long and headbang

My 'Donations' page tells me to gently caress off

quote:

Currently no record of purchase or donation history.

I have registered on the website with the same email as Kickstarter. I'll contact you guys, I guess.

# ? Jul 13, 2013 10:08

Brother None: Feb 25, 2013; On the line for InXile

Furism posted:

I have registered on the website with the same email as Kickstarter. I'll contact you guys, I guess.

Never hesitate to! I'll be workin' the entire weekend to cover any problems like that (though in a lot of cases I need someone from support to look at it)

# ? Jul 13, 2013 10:24

coffeetable: Feb 5, 2006; TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY

Update time!. Today's topics: books! Plotting! Graphics! Obfuscating player choice! Incentivizing savescumming!

# ? Jul 23, 2013 19:21

Furism: Feb 21, 2006; Live long and headbang

I'm really sad I can't buy the novels individually, and that the only way to get them is to up my pledge and get stuff I just don't care about

# ? Jul 24, 2013 20:10

Brother None: Feb 25, 2013; On the line for InXile

Furism posted:

I'm really sad I can't buy the novels individually, and that the only way to get them is to up my pledge and get stuff I just don't care about

Novels? The novellas are available as add-ons. These Numenera books aren't novels, they're pen and paper books, and you'll be able to buy them directly from Monte or different stores (Amazon, probably) after their release.

# ? Jul 24, 2013 23:27

Furism: Feb 21, 2006; Live long and headbang

I meant novellas, sorry. Last time I checked (that was some time ago) I couldn't find them on the backer portal as stand-alone add-ons - maybe I didn't read properly. But if I can buy them from Amazon then it's all good! (here's to hope they'll import them to Europe though!)

# ? Jul 25, 2013 07:39

Brother None: Feb 25, 2013; On the line for InXile

Furism posted:

I meant novellas, sorry. Last time I checked (that was some time ago) I couldn't find them on the backer portal as stand-alone add-ons - maybe I didn't read properly. But if I can buy them from Amazon then it's all good! (here's to hope they'll import them to Europe though!)

The novellas won't be on Amazon no, but they're available as an add-on: https://torment.inxile-entertainment.com/store Scroll all the way down to or ctrl+f to:
$15 USD Digital Novella Compilation
or
$40 USD (+shipping) Physical Novella Compilation

# ? Jul 25, 2013 18:08

Fintilgin: Sep 29, 2004; Fintilgin sweeps!

Brother None posted:

The novellas won't be on Amazon no,

Hey! Look who hates money! :keke:

# ? Jul 25, 2013 19:08

Furism: Feb 21, 2006; Live long and headbang

Brother None posted:

The novellas won't be on Amazon no, but they're available as an add-on: https://torment.inxile-entertainment.com/store Scroll all the way down to or ctrl+f to:
$15 USD Digital Novella Compilation
or
$40 USD (+shipping) Physical Novella Compilation

Gotcha. I went for the Digital novellas because the physical requires a $45+ donation, but all these already include at least one novella - doesn't look like a hugely attractive option. Why do the physical novellas have this requirements, as I'm going to pay shipping anyway?

# ? Jul 27, 2013 13:26

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 14:51

coyo7e: Aug 23, 2007; by zen death robot

Because it costs a heckuva lot to print a professional book on paper, compared to an ebook. They'll almost certainly be taking a loss on stuff like that physical novel.

# ? Jul 29, 2013 03:55

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