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Tharizdun posted:what is this i dont even U/B Mill has 3-1 and 4-0d some daily events on MTGO.
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But...but that deck looks horrible and bad! How does that even work?!
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Aug 9, 2013 08:10
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Jenx posted:But...but that deck looks horrible and bad! How does that even work?! You get to play with Actual Ancestral Recall and 5/5 Fliers for 1 mana is how it works! You can even win turn 0 against a combo deck! They fetch, you play Archive Trap into Surgical on their sparse wincons 
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Aug 9, 2013 08:31
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I was wondering when we'd hit a critical mass of "Mill Matters" cards in order to see a "Mill into a Wincon" deck. Is there a more current list of that deck? I could see it dropping the Green requirement for Abrupt Decay. Edit: Oh, and also for the lifegain on Deathrite. But yeah, I can still see dropping the Green. Edit 2: vvvvv Wow, that just goes all-in on the mill plan. Veyrall fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Aug 9, 2013 |
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Aug 9, 2013 09:05
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Veyrall posted:I was wondering when we'd hit a critical mass of "Mill Matters" cards in order to see a "Mill into a Wincon" deck. Is there a more current list of that deck? I could see it dropping the Green requirement for Abrupt Decay. http://mtgo-stats.com/decks/68915 Here's the most recent deck to cash a DE playing Archive Trap mfcrocker fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Aug 9, 2013 |
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Aug 9, 2013 09:37
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Does anyone know if anyone's written a primer for 4c Gifts?
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Aug 9, 2013 21:05
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Sampatrick posted:Does anyone know if anyone's written a primer for 4c Gifts? I remember reading one on CF during the PTQ season which influenced how I built mine and it went through different Gifts pile scenarios and matchups. I can't find it anymore since they updated their site and changed how it spits out search results.
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Aug 9, 2013 21:20
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mfcrocker posted:http://mtgo-stats.com/decks/68915 I can never get used to the weirdness of MTGO prices, being used to paper. Hurkyll's Recall is 10$ while Snapcaster Mage is only 6$?
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Aug 9, 2013 21:21
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Jenx posted:But...but that deck looks horrible and bad! How does that even work?! First off, don't underestimate Hedron Crab. It's 3 or 6 cards a turn off of things you'd do anyway. Archive Trap triggers off fetches and your own Ghost Quarters just one resolving means you're 1/3 of the way there, and Glimpse is obvious. Once you get 20 in there, Visions of Beyond becomes Ancestral Recall which helps a lot for keeping up momentum. Abrupt Decay, Remand, and the discard keep you from dying. Snapcaster allows reuse of this entire paragraph. Jace's Phantasm gives the deck an alternate plan of firing off Archive Trap or Glimpse and just smashing with cheap 5/5's for game. Deathrite Shaman counteracts the graveyard shenanigans milling enables and can provide mana and life reach because he's a loving good card. It seems pretty clear to me once you realize T0 Archive Trap to T1 Jace's Phantasm is a 4 turn clock out of loving nowhere.
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Aug 9, 2013 21:40
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That also pretty consistently happens, so the deck isn't as much a slave to variance as you'd think. You also sometimes get to live the dream of having 3 Archive Traps in your opening grip and your hapless pod opponent goes fetch->land->noble hierarch. e: grammar
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Aug 10, 2013 01:49
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Tharizdun posted:Anyone have any ideas for a deck that is solid vs Jund, still 50% vs the field and doesn't play out of the graveyard? GR Tron seems to stomp on me regularly unless I can get Karn with a Thoughtseize, once he hits the table the only main deck answer I have is Maelstrom pulse. Post board it's a race to find a Sowing salts. Full disclosure; my Jund deck is not quite finished, I only have 3 Lilianas and run 2 Scavenging Ooze to make up for the fact I don't have the cash the 2 more goyfs I need.
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Aug 10, 2013 15:51
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Play more Blood Moon.
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Aug 10, 2013 21:06
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GR Tron is fine, as long as you don't mind getting CRUSHED by combo decks. edit: VVV clarification yes, the pod matchups can be fine, and you can build a sideboard to beat splinter twin, but every other combo is like welp AnacondaHL fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Aug 11, 2013 |
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Aug 11, 2013 00:20
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Except Melira-Pod...G/R Tron is a terrrrrrrible matchup for Melira-Pod.
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Aug 11, 2013 00:31
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AnacondaHL posted:GR Tron is fine, as long as you don't mind getting CRUSHED by combo decks. There are other combos than those?
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TheKingofSprings posted:There are other combos than those? Filthy Monkey fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Aug 11, 2013 |
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Aug 11, 2013 05:29
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Filthy Monkey posted:puresteel paladin combo Is there some stray en-Kor that got timeshifted and somehow Starlit Sanctum got reprinted or what?
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Aug 11, 2013 05:44
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Tharizdun posted:what on earth is this? Play puresteel paladin. Play assloads of 0 cost equipment (and some mox opals). Draw many cards. Cast retract, play them again, and draw more cards. Grapeshot for win.
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Aug 11, 2013 05:48
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Star Man posted:Play more Blood Moon. Blood Moon seems like it would bone me just as much with the only thing in the deck costing pure red mana being Lighting Bolt and I only run two basics. 8th-snype fucked around with this message at 08:27 on Aug 11, 2013 |
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Aug 11, 2013 08:21
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I laugh whenever people play blood moon because it seems to screw them way more than it screws the tron player. G/R Tron in particular has effectively like 8 land tutors and 16 cantrips. They're going to put out more lands and land a wurmcoil.
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Aug 11, 2013 10:43
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Play a deck that supports it then 
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Aug 11, 2013 10:44
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Star Man posted:Play a deck that supports it then No. I just spent a ton of money buying lilianas and a tarmogoyf.  Seriously though, I needed the lilis for other stuff and want a play set of goyfs before I start buying up the manabase to play legacy, I just built jund because i have most of the cards. If any goons wanna play feel free to get at me on MTGO @ Fistfullofnikons. I'm usually on after 10pm PST weds to sat, just bear in mind I play at work a lot so sometimes am a bit slow if the phones are busy. I play mostly modern but have a few lovely standard decks if thats your thing and I am always down for some momir.
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Aug 11, 2013 13:33
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I'm just funnin' ya. Blood Moon is my answer to everything in Modern because of how much havoc it can wreck on decks with mana bases that hinge on non-basic lands. I love it.
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8th-snype posted:No. I just spent a ton of money buying lilianas and a tarmogoyf.
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Aug 12, 2013 19:14
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Yeah. You should be playing Deathblade instead, because it's better.
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Aug 12, 2013 21:54
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AgentSythe posted:Please do not play legacy decks with tarmogoyfs in them. If I have to seat myself across from any more stone faced PTQ grinders running RUG Delver because "it's good" I'm going to kill myself. Canadian Thresh is fun to play.
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Aug 12, 2013 22:25
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I saw this interesting Pod deck on MTGO today that had a Spike Feeder and Archangel of Thune combo. Seems like its easier to assemble than the standard Melira combo, but Spike Feeder is unplayable on its own. Is it worth running one of each in a Pod deck just to have another way to win?
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Aug 12, 2013 22:40
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Konstantin posted:I saw this interesting Pod deck on MTGO today that had a Spike Feeder and Archangel of Thune combo. Seems like its easier to assemble than the standard Melira combo, but Spike Feeder is unplayable on its own. Is it worth running one of each in a Pod deck just to have another way to win?
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Combo and tutor decks like melira pod are a sum of its individual parts and putting in cards require a little more thought than just throwing it in there for extra win-more conditions. Spike Feeder and Archangel of Thune have no real synergy with the rest of the deck and in my opinion are much worse in a vacuum compared to a lot of other options that green and white have.
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Aug 12, 2013 23:02
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Speaking of Legacy, was someone planning on making a thread for it? It'd be really nice to have another dedicated format thread.
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AlphaKeny1 posted:Combo and tutor decks like melira pod are a sum of its individual parts and putting in cards require a little more thought than just throwing it in there for extra win-more conditions. Spike Feeder and Archangel of Thune have no real synergy with the rest of the deck and in my opinion are much worse in a vacuum compared to a lot of other options that green and white have. Archangel of Thune's ability triggers on Kitchen Finks and it removes the -1/-1 counter. It's something, I guess.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Speaking of Legacy, was someone planning on making a thread for it? It'd be really nice to have another dedicated format thread. I can put one together in the next couple of days if there's enough interest. I never see legacy decks in the brewhaus thread is all so I figured people didn't play it.
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AgentSythe posted:I can put one together in the next couple of days if there's enough interest. I never see legacy decks in the brewhaus thread is all so I figured people didn't play it. I know Karnegal and I play it. We complain about the same things w/r/t enchantments even.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I know Karnegal and I play it. We complain about the same things w/r/t enchantments even. Chewy, Oldsrocket and myself also play it to my understanding.
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Aug 13, 2013 01:28
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I was watching some coverage of a Legacy tournament SCG was running and I found it really interesting almost like it was an entirely different game. It's way to expensive for me to actually get into but if people started a thread I'd definitely read it and be down to play it on cockatrice or whatever.
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AgentSythe posted:Please do not play legacy decks with tarmogoyfs in them. If I have to seat myself across from any more stone faced PTQ grinders running RUG Delver because "it's good" I'm going to kill myself. Play MUD. Turn one Ancient Tombs into Chalice of the Void for one and pray they aren't holding force (they are holding force).
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8th-snype posted:Play MUD. Turn one Ancient Tombs into Chalice of the Void for one and pray they aren't holding force (they are holding force). I don't have problems BEATING RUG delver I just don't care for it and similar decks, and find that the pilots of those decks at tournaments tend to be way too serious. Though I met Pikula once and he was a cool dude (crushed me in two games). It's funny you should mention that though, because my pet deck runs stompy lands and chalices.
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nthing support for Legacy thread.
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I'm looking to get into Legacy, albeit with cheap not-competitive-at-all decks like Burn and Werewolf Stompy, with an eventual eye towards putting together that Zombie/Goblin Bombardment deck. It's probably my next step after I finish the few modern decks I'm working on/picking up staples.
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Gravy Train Robber posted:I'm looking to get into Legacy, albeit with cheap not-competitive-at-all decks like Burn and Werewolf Stompy, with an eventual eye towards putting together that Zombie/Goblin Bombardment deck. It's probably my next step after I finish the few modern decks I'm working on/picking up staples. I wouldn't call burn "not competitive". I'm new to legacy but when I play burn online I don't get constantly curbstomped. Do not underestimate the value of drawing out all their counters and then Fireblasting for lethal on turn 5 or 6. EDIT: Turn zero leyline can suck my dick though.
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