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Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I think the MourningView seal of approval can only be earned with a massive tomahawk

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Chris de Sperg
Aug 14, 2009


Intruder posted:

I think the MourningView seal of approval can only be earned with a massive tomahawk
Yeah but I like to think of it as a progress log, you know

The B_36
Jul 10, 2012
Did you bribe that little girl to stand under the hoop, hand you the ball, and cover her head as you dunked on her? If so, I dont even know what to say to you, man.

Other than that I whole-heartedly approve.

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

Rubber ball spotted.

BIZORT
Jan 24, 2003

I rolled my ankle earlier in the week playing with some kids and it was a pretty bad one. I was still able to limp off the court onto the bench, get an icepack, ice myself for a little while, and then walk home (I live very close, less than 5 minutes away). I iced myself on and off for another 2 or so hours and went to bed. Woke up, couldn't put any weight on it. Here in Australia, if you want to take more than one day off in a row and want sick leave to cover it then you have to get a note from the doctor so I did that as a formality. He said it looks like a standard ankle sprain but to get x-rays just in case. I do that and, uh oh, something irregular shows up.

I then have to go to a hospital for a CT scan and get sent away. They refer me to a foot and ankle specialist.

The next day I go see him and he tells me I have ruptured a ligament and fractured my ankle in two places, one of which is right in the joint, and because of this I'll need surgery or I run the risk of the bone dying and, later, collapsing. So now I am seriously contemplating playing ball again after this because I've had various knee issues I've rehabbed through and now this; it's becoming an expensive hobby and my body seemingly isn't able to keep up with it. The specialist hinted that my ankle was weak to begin with, though, and this surgery will hopefully fix that long-term. I'm pretty bummed. I've been playing basketball for about 25 years and it's slowly being taken away. Getting old is awful.

Time
Aug 1, 2011

It Was All A Dream

BIZORT posted:

I rolled my ankle earlier in the week playing with some kids and it was a pretty bad one. I was still able to limp off the court onto the bench, get an icepack, ice myself for a little while, and then walk home (I live very close, less than 5 minutes away). I iced myself on and off for another 2 or so hours and went to bed. Woke up, couldn't put any weight on it. Here in Australia, if you want to take more than one day off in a row and want sick leave to cover it then you have to get a note from the doctor so I did that as a formality. He said it looks like a standard ankle sprain but to get x-rays just in case. I do that and, uh oh, something irregular shows up.

I then have to go to a hospital for a CT scan and get sent away. They refer me to a foot and ankle specialist.

The next day I go see him and he tells me I have ruptured a ligament and fractured my ankle in two places, one of which is right in the joint, and because of this I'll need surgery or I run the risk of the bone dying and, later, collapsing. So now I am seriously contemplating playing ball again after this because I've had various knee issues I've rehabbed through and now this; it's becoming an expensive hobby and my body seemingly isn't able to keep up with it. The specialist hinted that my ankle was weak to begin with, though, and this surgery will hopefully fix that long-term. I'm pretty bummed. I've been playing basketball for about 25 years and it's slowly being taken away. Getting old is awful.

I feel you, 100%. On the flip side, now is your opportunity to transition to full on 65 and shoots the lights out of the YMCA.

I've had several surgeries in the last 3 years that have robbed me of the ability to play at the level I used to. It sucks but the itch to play has started to come back and I get on the courts for rehab work more than anything. I can still shoot but I literally can't do anything else right now.

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends
Plaster Town Cop

BIZORT posted:



The next day I go see him and he tells me I have ruptured a ligament and fractured my ankle in two places, one of which is right in the joint, and because of this I'll need surgery or I run the risk of the bone dying and, later, collapsing. So now I am seriously contemplating playing ball again after this because I've had various knee issues I've rehabbed through and now this; it's becoming an expensive hobby and my body seemingly isn't able to keep up with it. The specialist hinted that my ankle was weak to begin with, though, and this surgery will hopefully fix that long-term. I'm pretty bummed. I've been playing basketball for about 25 years and it's slowly being taken away. Getting old is awful.

Man I'm sorry, I sympathize. Nobody tells you that your body will start breaking down in your middle twenties and presumably get worse from there. I can't even think about doing something strenuous outside a pool without clearing the next day for icing and laying on the floor. When I play basketball now I stand at the 3 point line and lightly jog back on defense. It really sucks, but there are things you can do without putting undue strain on your body, and if you're very very conscientious about training, biomechanics, and recovery, you can still do what you love once in a while.

The B_36
Jul 10, 2012
Don't be too over dramatic about it. I played consistently till I was 30+, my body wasn't breaking down at that point. You learn how to pace yourself a bit better tho. I also haven't played regularly in about 5 years, so I don't know how the body will respond once I get off my lazy rear end and start playing again.

PantsFreeZone
May 31, 2013

by Nyc_Tattoo

The B_36 posted:

Don't be too over dramatic about it. I played consistently till I was 30+, my body wasn't breaking down at that point. You learn how to pace yourself a bit better tho. I also haven't played regularly in about 5 years, so I don't know how the body will respond once I get off my lazy rear end and start playing again.

This is very true. Pacing is very important. So is developing that old man game. Use your rear end more, like Andre Miller.

Fun story: I'm in my mid 30s and I was out playing the other day here in Chicago at my usual court where I know all the angles and how that one bent rim is angled so you have to add more arc or it will catch the front iron, when I was invited to run 5 on 5. I usually run 3 on 3 half court at most because I have no left MCL and a really bad right ankle from years of leg injuries, but I thought what the hell. So I hit two one legged Dirk 3s from the top of the key and suddenly the next possession down the younger, healthier, way more athletic guy who was guarding me (and who I was basically standing next to when on defense and moving as little as possible) decides to start face guarding me as I come across half court. I felt pride and hilarity all at the same time. Until after the game ended (we won, yay) when I was so gassed I had to go puke behind the restrooms for 10 minutes.

Mandrel
Sep 24, 2006

PantsFreeZone posted:

This is very true. Pacing is very important. So is developing that old man game. Use your rear end more, like Andre Miller.

Fun story: I'm in my mid 30s and I was out playing the other day here in Chicago at my usual court where I know all the angles and how that one bent rim is angled so you have to add more arc or it will catch the front iron, when I was invited to run 5 on 5. I usually run 3 on 3 half court at most because I have no left MCL and a really bad right ankle from years of leg injuries, but I thought what the hell. So I hit two one legged Dirk 3s from the top of the key and suddenly the next possession down the younger, healthier, way more athletic guy who was guarding me (and who I was basically standing next to when on defense and moving as little as possible) decides to start face guarding me as I come across half court. I felt pride and hilarity all at the same time. Until after the game ended (we won, yay) when I was so gassed I had to go puke behind the restrooms for 10 minutes.

Yeah, I'm 22 and of above average athleticism compared to 90% of the people that play at my gym, and my game is still almost completely dependent on my rear end. I'm lucky there's no Charles Barkley rule in pick-up ball.

I'm hoping that playing this way balances out how often I play pick-up, and will keep me in playing shape for a long time. I don't even know how I'd get injured the way I play, other than landing wrong after grabbing a rebound. It's crazy, there are guys who I used to play with (that are my age or thereabouts) at the college courts who used to play circles around me, but are now so hobbled by injuries by senior year that they don't even seem like the same guy I used to play with. I just keep my fingers crossed.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Mandrel posted:

Yeah, I'm 22 and of above average athleticism compared to 90% of the people that play at my gym, and my game is still almost completely dependent on my rear end. I'm lucky there's no Charles Barkley rule in pick-up ball.

I'm hoping that playing this way balances out how often I play pick-up, and will keep me in playing shape for a long time. I don't even know how I'd get injured the way I play, other than landing wrong after grabbing a rebound. It's crazy, there are guys who I used to play with (that are my age or thereabouts) at the college courts who used to play circles around me, but are now so hobbled by injuries by senior year that they don't even seem like the same guy I used to play with. I just keep my fingers crossed.

I had my first knee injury on a layup and my first ankle injury trotting back on defense. You are mortal and you can get injured and you will some day not be able to dunk.

:(

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

Declan MacManus posted:

I had my first knee injury on a layup and my first ankle injury trotting back on defense. You are mortal and you can get injured and you will some day not be able to dunk.

:(
as long as i'll still be able to feel like lebron when playing 13 year olds i will always enjoy basketball.

PantsFreeZone
May 31, 2013

by Nyc_Tattoo

Declan MacManus posted:

I had my first knee injury on a layup and my first ankle injury trotting back on defense. You are mortal and you can get injured and you will some day not be able to dunk.

:(

Blew out my left MCL twice rebounding and destroyed my right ankle blocking a jumpshot. But I could never pure dunk, only rub ins.

Icy Penguigo
Nov 7, 2010

mynameisjohn posted:

as long as i'll still be able to feel like lebron when playing 13 year olds i will always enjoy basketball.

I found out how true this is for the first time ever last week. I was the tallest, fastest, strongest, most coordinated person on the court and it felt unbelievable. I dunked on one kid, and also blocked one hard enough to put him on his rear end (he tried to call a foul and I had to gently explain how loving stupid he was)

I'm a few knee injuries into the game and my athleticism is waning quickly. Just got an office job working 50 hours a week and I'm afraid in a year or two I basically won't be able to play anymore. Gotta start working on that old man game. Who should I study, Paul Pierce or Andre Miller?

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Icy Penguigo posted:

I found out how true this is for the first time ever last week. I was the tallest, fastest, strongest, most coordinated person on the court and it felt unbelievable. I dunked on one kid, and also blocked one hard enough to put him on his rear end (he tried to call a foul and I had to gently explain how loving stupid he was)

I'm a few knee injuries into the game and my athleticism is waning quickly. Just got an office job working 50 hours a week and I'm afraid in a year or two I basically won't be able to play anymore. Gotta start working on that old man game. Who should I study, Paul Pierce or Andre Miller?

Andre Miller, definitely. Post ups, midrange Js, and bounce passes 4ever

IanTheM
May 22, 2007
He came from across the Atlantic. . .
It's ridiculous how time consuming being in real good shape is in terms of conditioning. I learned about active rest the other day though, think I'm gonna try that. Basically the idea is that even on your rest days you do some sort of workout, like stationary bike, swimming, short run, whatever. It just gets your body recovering faster by getting your blood flowing, and you feel better than if you just plain rest.

socketwrencher
Apr 10, 2012

Be still and know.

IanTheM posted:

It's ridiculous how time consuming being in real good shape is in terms of conditioning. I learned about active rest the other day though, think I'm gonna try that. Basically the idea is that even on your rest days you do some sort of workout, like stationary bike, swimming, short run, whatever. It just gets your body recovering faster by getting your blood flowing, and you feel better than if you just plain rest.

This helps me as well. Even a brisk walk is good. I've also taken to stretching at my desk- I mean really stretching, like you're straining to touch something above your head, out to your sides, down on the ground, etc. that's just beyond your reach.

The orthopedic surgeon who scoped my knees likes to say that once you hit a certain point- and of course it varies but in general he says around 35 for men- you have to take care of yourself almost as if you're a professional athlete if you want to keep going at it. Gotta reduce the load on your joints by shedding excess weight and building muscle. He's also a big proponent of more sleep, both for the restorative value and because being tired can hinder your ability to cope with stress.

socketwrencher
Apr 10, 2012

Be still and know.
I've had this idea for a few years and wonder if it could work:

A basketball only gym. Courts rented by the hour. No locker rooms or showers, just vending machines.

It would just be so nice to be able to play when you wanted to play. I live in Oakland CA and it's surprisingly hard to find a good game. Outdoor courts are a crapshoot and gyms are either expensive or crowded or both.

It's just that as we get older our free time becomes so limited. Can't hang out at the park all day on the weekend trying to get in a few games. My friends and I would love to book an indoor court a couple times a week if the price was reasonable.

But I guess this is less of a business idea and more just wishful thinking.

Do you guys have difficulty finding good games/good courts? The worst for me is getting to a court where 7 guys are dicking around playing 21 and don't want to start a game.

cisneros
Apr 18, 2006

socketwrencher posted:

I've had this idea for a few years and wonder if it could work:

A basketball only gym. Courts rented by the hour. No locker rooms or showers, just vending machines.

It would just be so nice to be able to play when you wanted to play. I live in Oakland CA and it's surprisingly hard to find a good game. Outdoor courts are a crapshoot and gyms are either expensive or crowded or both.

It's just that as we get older our free time becomes so limited. Can't hang out at the park all day on the weekend trying to get in a few games. My friends and I would love to book an indoor court a couple times a week if the price was reasonable.

But I guess this is less of a business idea and more just wishful thinking.

Do you guys have difficulty finding good games/good courts? The worst for me is getting to a court where 7 guys are dicking around playing 21 and don't want to start a game.

Where I live, there's something like that but with indoor soccer fields, and it's pretty successful. It's like a hundred bucks per hour, and you just split it between the guys playing.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

Icy Penguigo posted:

I found out how true this is for the first time ever last week. I was the tallest, fastest, strongest, most coordinated person on the court and it felt unbelievable. I dunked on one kid, and also blocked one hard enough to put him on his rear end (he tried to call a foul and I had to gently explain how loving stupid he was)

I hate this poo poo, there's one guy I play with who'll call a foul basically any time he's blocked or gets the ball stolen. Unfortunately he's been playing with the group forever so it's not like he'll get chased away, and he doesn't care when people complain or talk poo poo about his lovely calls

I also really hate when people call fouls when you block their shot and on the follow through graze their arm or hand

cisneros posted:

Where I live, there's something like that but with indoor soccer fields, and it's pretty successful. It's like a hundred bucks per hour, and you just split it between the guys playing.

Color me surprised, I'd never think something like that would work out

Of course, i live within a mile or so of a park with about 10 free soccer fields

Intruder fucked around with this message at 09:20 on Aug 11, 2013

EMC
Aug 17, 2004

In Australia it's pretty easy to get access to courts, because despite being terrible at the sport internationally it remains popular as a social sport. I usually play here for a couple of hours on the weekend with a group of about 12 of us, ends up about 6-7 bucks each - http://www.venueswest.wa.gov.au/our-venues/wa-basketball-centre/

socketwrencher
Apr 10, 2012

Be still and know.

cisneros posted:

Where I live, there's something like that but with indoor soccer fields, and it's pretty successful. It's like a hundred bucks per hour, and you just split it between the guys playing.

I can see the appeal, especially at $5-10 a person.

socketwrencher
Apr 10, 2012

Be still and know.

EMC posted:

In Australia it's pretty easy to get access to courts, because despite being terrible at the sport internationally it remains popular as a social sport. I usually play here for a couple of hours on the weekend with a group of about 12 of us, ends up about 6-7 bucks each - http://www.venueswest.wa.gov.au/our-venues/wa-basketball-centre/

Whoa- sweet facility. The other stadiums and arenas are impressive as well.

Regnevelc
Jan 12, 2003

I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!
I think you'd need facilities to support events. Empty courts I don't think would hold much appeal or would generate any revenue without the support of tournaments and such.

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth
Apr 23, 2004

The high-end gym by me actually has a really nice hoops setup. Full-size court, scoreboard, they'll even book refs for you if you're playing a league game, etc., but the downside is it's like $200/month for membership.

socketwrencher
Apr 10, 2012

Be still and know.

Regnevelc posted:

I think you'd need facilities to support events. Empty courts I don't think would hold much appeal or would generate any revenue without the support of tournaments and such.

I think you're right. The market is probably quite small. I've played in leagues that rented pretty crappy gyms though, maybe that could be another angle.

LOL basically, I just want a place to play hoops indoors at specific times with friends.

socketwrencher
Apr 10, 2012

Be still and know.

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:

The high-end gym by me actually has a really nice hoops setup. Full-size court, scoreboard, they'll even book refs for you if you're playing a league game, etc., but the downside is it's like $200/month for membership.

There are a few high-end options out this way too, but you know how that goes.

Near my work there are a lot of vacant warehouses that rent for cheap. Whenever I drive by I think about installing a wood floor and putting up hoops, which would of course be much cheaper than a $200/month membership :o)

cisneros
Apr 18, 2006

Regnevelc posted:

I think you'd need facilities to support events. Empty courts I don't think would hold much appeal or would generate any revenue without the support of tournaments and such.

The biggest one around here has a full blown food court and can be used for events, but the smaller ones get by with just some basic showers/ lockers, enough parking, a place to sell overpriced beverages/ rent balls, and the occasional tournament. But yeah, you would need a big group of regulars for it to work.

Chris de Sperg
Aug 14, 2009



that child never loving knew what hit him

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

If you work at a cubicle you should take 5 minute breaks to walk around the office every hour and do 20 minutes of stretching every couple hours. Your body literally deteriorates if you sit still for 40+ hours a week, especially if you're too tired to do anything after work.

Chris de Sperg posted:


that child never loving knew what hit him

youre making progress, but if you dont actually make contact with the child its not dunking on him

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:


gently caress

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

Also dunking on an 8 foot rim is frowned upon.

Boosh!
Apr 12, 2002
Oven Wrangler
I was at the park recently and saw something pretty wild. There's a competitive (in effort not skill) game of 3 on 3 going on, one guy falls, does a monkey flip to get back up and nails his teammate in the face with his foot who staggers back 5 steps.

The B_36
Jul 10, 2012

Chris de Sperg posted:


that child never loving knew what hit him

I appreciate the effort, but that was the most awkward and uncomfortable to watch celebration I've ever seen. You should have just stared the kid down and flexed. Understated is better than spastic arm flailing.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009

Boosh! posted:

I was at the park recently and saw something pretty wild. There's a competitive (in effort not skill) game of 3 on 3 going on, one guy falls, does a monkey flip to get back up and nails his teammate in the face with his foot who staggers back 5 steps.

I sprained my right thumb getting a high five from a teammate after winning the last of the day's games.

IanTheM
May 22, 2007
He came from across the Atlantic. . .

Chris de Sperg posted:


that child never loving knew what hit him

Kid needs to go for the block so that you can crash into him, then land straddling him as he bleeds on the cement.

spamman
Jul 11, 2002

Chin up Tiger, There is always next season...
So at the end of my first season in a social league we won the Grand Final. Pretty psyched with that, although there'll be a bit of a drop for next season as we lose our two best players to a sister team in a better division.

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

IanTheM posted:

Kid needs to go for the block so that you can crash into him, then land straddling him as he bleeds on the cement.

I want the kid to go for the block and actually get it, followed by 100 years of shame

TJChap2840
Sep 24, 2009
Does saying "And one" if you get a shot off and legitimately think it will go in, not constitute a foul call if it does not?

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the mean lunch lady
Jun 24, 2009

went mad at sea
lots were drawn
Kroenke didn't survive
he was delicious

TJChap2840 posted:

Does saying "And one" if you get a shot off and legitimately think it will go in, not constitute a foul call if it does not?

It depends on where I play. When I played at Mizzou's rec center, "And one" was just a substitute for a foul call, but when I played outside, it didn't count as a foul.

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