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kloa: Feb 14, 2007

wilbur.walsh posted:

Behold this baby:

# ? Aug 25, 2013 02:33

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# ? May 23, 2024 14:50

Shima Honnou: Dec 1, 2010; The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit; College Slice

kloa posted:

They need to add custom skins for the guns, because that thing needs to be in gold tiger stripe to really be complete.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 02:43

Foehammer: Nov 8, 2005; We are invincible.

I tend to take sub-optimal attachments in order to preserve aesthetic appearances. I keep the standard mag in my crosskill, put the wooden foregrip on the 7.62 instead of the tactical, and totally refuse to use that ridiculous deagle slide.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 02:48

Fabricated: Apr 9, 2007; Living the Dream

Does anyone else have a problem where you basically fire phantom bullets that don't hit anything?

I notice this very acutely with the Bronco. I have mine modded for pretty much max accuracy; I can headshot from across a map. I'll have guys lined up center mass, they're not moving, there's no obstructions, then I fire.

Nothing. I fire every round until I reload, no hits. Aimed dead on down the sights. Puffs of smoke coming off the guys even. I've fired 6 rounds at near point blank center mass into a group of 3 cops before and nothing. Gets super loving irritating.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 02:52

Diesel Fucker: Aug 14, 2003; I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.

Great fun tonight with a goon squad. Looking forward to many more sessions!

Although saying that I've lost connection a few times now and been cheated out of new potential masks. :negative:

# ? Aug 25, 2013 02:52

Bondematt: Jan 26, 2007; Not too stupid

Fabricated posted:

Does anyone else have a problem where you basically fire phantom bullets that don't hit anything?

I notice this very accuutely with the Bronco. I have mine modded for pretty much max accuracy; I can headshot from across a map. I'll have guys lined up center mass, they're not moving, there's no obstructions, then I fire.

Nothing. I fire every round until I reload, no hits. Aimed dead on down the sights. Puffs of smoke coming off the guys even. I've fired 6 rounds at near point blank center mass into a group of 3 cops before and nothing. Gets super loving irritating.

Yeah, I get this with the Mosconi pretty often.

Also the whole spotting through walls thing seems to be an issue with the spotting mechanic taking place on the host or something. Host clearly saw a guard in the room with me who had not even entered on my end. So from now on we're just gonna let the host sneak...

# ? Aug 25, 2013 02:54

Xenix: Feb 21, 2003

Fabricated posted:

Does anyone else have a problem where you basically fire phantom bullets that don't hit anything?

I notice this very accuutely with the Bronco. I have mine modded for pretty much max accuracy; I can headshot from across a map. I'll have guys lined up center mass, they're not moving, there's no obstructions, then I fire.

Nothing. I fire every round until I reload, no hits. Aimed dead on down the sights. Puffs of smoke coming off the guys even. I've fired 6 rounds at near point blank center mass into a group of 3 cops before and nothing. Gets super loving irritating.

If it's against the tan FBI agents, you need to hit them in the head or shoulders to score a hit.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 02:54

Doorknob Slobber: Sep 10, 2006; by Fluffdaddy

Fabricated posted:

Does anyone else have a problem where you basically fire phantom bullets that don't hit anything?

I notice this very acutely with the Bronco. I have mine modded for pretty much max accuracy; I can headshot from across a map. I'll have guys lined up center mass, they're not moving, there's no obstructions, then I fire.

Nothing. I fire every round until I reload, no hits. Aimed dead on down the sights. Puffs of smoke coming off the guys even. I've fired 6 rounds at near point blank center mass into a group of 3 cops before and nothing. Gets super loving irritating.

I've noticed this a bit lately, especially trying to pick off snipers. I'll have my sights lined up perfect with a rifle and shoot, but no hits.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 03:02

Fur20: Nov 14, 2007; すご▞い！
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね！

Foehammer posted:

I tend to take sub-optimal attachments in order to preserve aesthetic appearances. I keep the standard mag in my crosskill, put the wooden foregrip on the 7.62 instead of the tactical, and totally refuse to use that ridiculous deagle slide.

I don't see what's more aesthetic and awesome than the longest Deagle in the world ever :colbert:

# ? Aug 25, 2013 03:12

Foehammer: Nov 8, 2005; We are invincible.

kloa posted:

# ? Aug 25, 2013 03:15

Shima Honnou: Dec 1, 2010; The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit; College Slice

Foehammer posted:

I tend to take sub-optimal attachments in order to preserve aesthetic appearances. I keep the standard mag in my crosskill, put the wooden foregrip on the 7.62 instead of the tactical, and totally refuse to use that ridiculous deagle slide.

Muldoon all day. Need another one for my Loco. Can't hit poo poo or make followup shots but so worth it.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 03:18

boar guy: Jan 25, 2007

Bolow posted:

Bonus: Handheld Minigun

Lol what the gently caress is that, that wins for the most ridiculous thing I've seen in Payday 2 so far.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 03:40

kloa: Feb 14, 2007

Apparently there are goons that haven't seen Heat :psyduck:

Go watch it:

# ? Aug 25, 2013 03:42

Pleads: Jun 9, 2005; pew pew pew

kloa posted:

Apparently there are goons that haven't seen Heat

I've never actually watched it but I've seen the shootout scene at least 20 times.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 03:44

UnholyCow: Oct 6, 2005

Everyone should watch the whole thing. It is a good movie.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 03:47

Foehammer: Nov 8, 2005; We are invincible.

Everyone should watch the whole thing so they can be like Val Kilmer. A professional who knows when it's time to fight, and when it's time to run.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:01

Pleads: Jun 9, 2005; pew pew pew

Foehammer posted:

Everyone should watch the whole thing so they can be like Val Kilmer. A professional who knows when it's time to fight, and when it's time to run.

Heat is not available to streeeaaaammmmm :argh:

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:11

padijun: Feb 5, 2004; murderbears forever

Question about loot bags and watchdogs (no, I still haven't been able to keep the driver alive): On day two if you take bags to the helicopter do they count, or only bags thrown in the boat?

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:12

the: Jul 18, 2004; by Cowcaster

I got a custom xml online that is supposed to have the minimal graphics settings to help the game run faster. My only complaint is that one setting makes it so every player and weapon in the lobby/room area (before the game) be shrouded in this blue colorless nothing.

Which setting do you think it causing it?

code:

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# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:12

Age of the Atomic Mom: Oct 15, 2009

Pleads posted:

Heat is not available to streeeaaaammmmm

You just checked Netflix too didn't you :canada:

The Score is though!

padijun posted:

Question about loot bags and watchdogs (no, I still haven't been able to keep the driver alive): On day two if you take bags to the helicopter do they count, or only bags thrown in the boat?

Only those thrown in the boat.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:13

Fur20: Nov 14, 2007; すご▞い！
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね！

Pez Ez Dispenser posted:

Only those thrown in the boat.

You get the cash credit for anything you take to the chopper, but the game chatter counts it as you having lost some. Overkill just gotta hurry and make up its mind over that one already.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:18

Vatek: Nov 4, 2009; QUACKING PERMABANNED! READ HERE

~SMcD

Pez Ez Dispenser posted:

Only those thrown in the boat.

If you carry bags onto the helicopter they count. If you throw them in the escape chopper escape zone, they don't.

Every time we do watchdogs we throw 8 bags in the boat and carry the 9th out and the score screen always says 9 bags.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:20

fronz: Apr 7, 2009; Lipstick Apathy

You should stick around anyway, because by the time you have to wait between the second and third boats the assaults are probably starting to get rougher. Watchdogs D2 goes so quickly they don't really get to throw bullshit-level cops at you.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:21

William Henry Hairytaint: Oct 29, 2011

Foehammer posted:

Everyone should watch the whole thing so they can be like Val Kilmer. A professional who knows when it's time to fight, and when it's time to run.

You mean a gambling addict who looks like he's about to get dopesick but holy poo poo can he reload an assault rifle under pressure like a champ.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:22

Fabricated: Apr 9, 2007; Living the Dream

fronz posted:

You should stick around anyway, because by the time you have to wait between the second and third boats the assaults are probably starting to get rougher. Watchdogs D2 goes so quickly they don't really get to throw bullshit-level cops at you.

The cop upgrade in the last patch has helped a bit. I usually see shields in the first real wave which I didn't before, and I've gotten double bulldozers on wave 2. I've also gotten a fuckton of tasers on wave 2/3 but pfft, they still suck.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:31

Davoren: Aug 14, 2003; The devil you say!

Zurreco posted:

Technically, Ukraine jobs are still the best way to farm cards. If you take the 3 minutes to stealth it with lockpicking, you won't have an escape. If you take the 45 second route with C4, you run the risk of a 5 minute escape. You can still do the Ukraine/Club/Mall cycle if you are only interested in cards.

I don't know if heist difficulty affects the quality of the drops you get, but your odds of getting cash/items/masks is constantly random. If you get an item or mask card, Lucky Charm will give you a 50% improvement (300% aced) in quality.

Guys you can still beat Ukrainian Job in like 35-40 seconds without an escape, it's just a two man job now.

Mask up in the street in front of the coffee shop, where nobody can see you. As person 1 smashes through the front window, person 2 drops an ECM jammer. 1 heads to the back rooms to blow the safes, 2 controls the civs and bags up jewels, dropping the other jammer if necessary. I don't know if you need to answer pagers while the jammer is up, but we do just in case. As soon as you have the tiara, hightail it to the van with hopefully two or three bags of jewels. More people on the team just means more extra loot, and as long as you leave before the alarm sounds you won't have to do an escape. (This is why it's important you use the window, so the metal detector doesn't go off)

We've even had times where the alarm has sounded as we were getting back to the vehicle, and we still didn't have to escape, so as long as you are fast you may still get lucky.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:32

Shumagorath: Jun 6, 2001

Literal Nazi Furry posted:

If the game wants to give you a weapon part that you already have two of in your inventory, it gives you a cash drop instead.

That tears it. Just let me buy poo poo. I don't care if the Dillinger mask costs a billion in offshore cash.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:33

Fur20: Nov 14, 2007; すご▞い！
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね！

Fabricated posted:

The cop upgrade in the last patch has helped a bit. I usually see shields in the first real wave which I didn't before, and I've gotten double bulldozers on wave 2. I've also gotten a fuckton of tasers on wave 2/3 but pfft, they still suck.

Yeah, tasers still ain't poo poo mechanically, but the psychological impact is definitely there now: they have a really sinister VA and similarly-threatening lines. I like it a lot.

After the cop upgrade, we got rushed by four bulldozers in a row on Overkill Bank Heist. I can't remember whether we made it out of that one or not, but I'm gonna say we wiped because I'd likely have remembered it if we'd survived.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:37

Hemish: Jan 25, 2005

I've been playing with a few friends and we rarely get to play as a full group so I hopped in with goons on 3 occasions in the past week. Few missions each time. Good fun was had by all with some coordination.

I just tried playing with someone I know with 2 pubbies. We just failed a Fire Starter Very Hard because both the pubbies ran out of different side of the hangar trying to throw bags on the sides while the assault was at it's apex or something. The second mission was that Bank Heist : Gold or something on Overkill and 3 secs before the thermal drill pops the door, another set of pubbies run out the front entrance and get downed in the middle of the street and assault and then bitch in chat we didn't get them in time because we didn't check the chat box...

gently caress pubbies. They're worst than every failure scenario on my part I can think of (I don't know the optimal plans for all these missions yet) when I join up with goons.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:38

Solomonic: Jan 3, 2008; INCIPIT SANTA

Did the netcode get worse with the patch or is it just me? I keep getting disconnected from the host on the day 2 - day 3 transition of various multi-day heists, which is unbelievably frustrating.

Foehammer posted:

Everyone should watch the whole thing so they can be like Val Kilmer. A professional who knows when it's time to fight, and when it's time to run.

He knows that you shouldn't have anything you can't walk away from in 30 seconds if you feel the heat around the corner.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:46

William Henry Hairytaint: Oct 29, 2011

I'm not gonna say "gently caress pubbies" because I've had a lot of good games with them but I'm definitely willing to say gently caress the guys who think they're terminators and charge out into the street or up onto the roof to take the fight to the cops.

One of the best ways to get better at this game is to try and fire as few shots as possible.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 04:51

InequalityGodzilla: May 31, 2012

wilbur.walsh posted:

Overcompensating Deagle bullshit.

Bolow posted:

Dinky little M9 bullshit.

You're both wrong.

The perfect mix of power, accuracy, mobility, ammo capacity and class, all in one. Why am I not using the extended mags, you ask? Because ten shots is all I need and I don't feel like taking that hit to my mobility and because it's ugly. John Browning made the M1911A1 and truly, it was good. Crosskill reigns supreme.

The White Dragon posted:

I don't see what's more aesthetic and awesome than the longest Deagle in the world ever

Speaking as a gun nut I've always found the deagle to just be a plain old ugly gun.

Efexeye posted:

Lol what the gently caress is that, that wins for the most ridiculous thing I've seen in Payday 2 so far.

I know the Stryk is basically useless in combat but it's really a blast to use. I love spraying bullets everywhere.

Edit: One concession I will make to Bolow is that the Beretta is the perfect handgun to use on normal difficulty if you're playing on pubbies. If you put either of the damage increasing mods on it and you have the tech's headshot damage bonus you can one hit kill blue swat guys with a single well placed shot to the head. I've done entire matches with pubbies where I literally never switched to using my primary.

InequalityGodzilla fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Aug 25, 2013

# ? Aug 25, 2013 05:04

padijun: Feb 5, 2004; murderbears forever

The White Dragon posted:

Yeah, tasers still ain't poo poo mechanically, but the psychological impact is definitely there now: they have a really sinister VA and similarly-threatening lines. I like it a lot.

They also take 2-3x the amount of ammo to kill now if people aren't paying attention to headshots. I'm gonna have to convince my enforcer buddy to dump 8 points into acing the ammo bag skill because I seem to be running out a lot more since patch 5 hit.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 05:05

Vargs: Mar 27, 2010

Frog Assassin posted:

I'm not gonna say "gently caress pubbies" because I've had a lot of good games with them but I'm definitely willing to say gently caress the guys who think they're terminators and charge out into the street or up onto the roof to take the fight to the cops.

One of the best ways to get better at this game is to try and fire as few shots as possible.

I do this on easy missions because it's more entertaining than huddling around a drill doing nothing for 4 minutes, trying to conserve your precious ammo when you have 4 ammo packs.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 05:10

Push El Burrito: May 9, 2006; Soiled Meat

padijun posted:

They also take 2-3x the amount of ammo to kill now if people aren't paying attention to headshots. I'm gonna have to convince my enforcer buddy to dump 8 points into acing the ammo bag skill because I seem to be running out a lot more since patch 5 hit.

I had one get me from behind a wall which was weird. I'm all "I'M BEING TASED!" and nobody knew where it was coming from. Then I get downed and next thing I see is a taser come strolling by a window.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 05:22

Davoren: Aug 14, 2003; The devil you say!

Yeah it's weird, I have two slots free for primaries, but even then I don't use half the ones I have. My secondary slots are full though, and I just want mooore!

# ? Aug 25, 2013 05:22

Fabricated: Apr 9, 2007; Living the Dream

What in the gently caress is wrong with the difficulty scaling in this game?

I've ran like 5 overkill Watchdogs today since it's my favorite heist. All went extremely well and weren't too bad. Felt like the right mix of cops was spawning for each wave.

I just quit a "very hard" Watchdogs where Payday's director equivalent must have been Satan himself.

Here is what spawned in literally the 45-50 seconds after the instant I got the coke over the fence:

10 tasers
4 bulldozers
6 shields

I know, I counted. I dropped 4 tazers that came all in one group after I threw the last bag over the fence. 3 more came right after that. Then 3 more and a wave of 10 tan swat and 3 shields. 3 more shields came in from the side as we threw the coke towards the warehouse. I was nearly dumbstruck; I have never seen waves of cops this big.

We barely get the coke bucket brigaded into the warehouse, quad bulldozer rush. I ammo bag Mosconi spam 3 out of 4 down.

It was almost as if the game was angry at us for stomping a gigantic shitstorm of specials before they should even be showing up. The first wave of cops off the container ship were all tasers. Double bulldozer and 3 shields right after that and I determined either the game literally hated our loving guts or it was bugged. gently caress 10 minutes of that poo poo just for Very Hard. I quit.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 05:24

padijun: Feb 5, 2004; murderbears forever

THE GAYEST POSTER posted:

I had one get me from behind a wall which was weird. I'm all "I'M BEING TASED!" and nobody knew where it was coming from. Then I get downed and next thing I see is a taser come strolling by a window.

Kind of related, the shields coming through the windows on Rats have possibly been given a third arm: one for holding the shield, one for holding a gun, and one for balancing perfectly in the window sill :suicide:

# ? Aug 25, 2013 05:25

Pleads: Jun 9, 2005; pew pew pew

padijun posted:

Kind of related, the shields coming through the windows on Rats have possibly been given a third arm: one for holding the shield, one for holding a gun, and one for balancing perfectly in the window sill

They had them slung over their backs when they climbed the walls on our playthrough tonight, made enough physical sense.

# ? Aug 25, 2013 05:26

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# ? May 23, 2024 14:50

Bolow: Feb 27, 2007

Feeble posted:

You're both wrong.

The perfect mix of power, accuracy, mobility, ammo capacity and class, all in one. Why am I not using the extended mags, you ask? Because ten shots is all I need and I don't feel like taking that hit to my mobility and because it's ugly. John Browning made the M1911A1 and truly, it was good. Crosskill reigns supreme.

No classic grips :colbert:

Also the M9 is pretty good when your team is really goddamn lovely and you need a whole lot of ammo. Since it has a massive amount of reserve ammo.

Bolow fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Aug 25, 2013

# ? Aug 25, 2013 05:30

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