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WarpedNaba posted:Dear whoever is willing to listen, To: Dr. Shen Re: Cybernetic enhancement What the gently caress is wrong with you? Make me a drat robot already! And I don't mean make me a robot, I mean make ME a robot. -Col. Robert 'True Blue' Williams P/S: Seriously, dude. Make me a robot, or I'll go to Dr. Vahlen and have her turn me into an 8-foot tall genetically engineered supersoldier. Veotax posted:I think they said that it will be released as DLC on the PC but on consoles they're only releasing the 'full version', not as DLC. Man, that sucks for console users. Sure, I'm a PC guy, but still- any reason they're doing this?
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Jetamo posted:Just had a Wait wait I thought Thin Man reinforcements only dropped into Overwatch. Depending on the escort mission, you should be relatively able to clear out the Thin Men before triggering the package. The only time I got an escort killed was the General, what happened was I had him selected to move, and wanted to switch to another unit and the game wasn't registering my clicks (Keyboard what's that?!) so what happened was instead of selecting an avaliable troop, I ran headfirst into Thin Man Overwatch. Now keep in mind? this was LITERALLY the end of the mission, he was running into the safe zone.
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Dr.Oblivious posted:Isolating aliens isn't the problem, it's the disproportionate chance of failure far out-weights the amount of work that goes into creating the "perfect" scenario to capture one single opponent. I'm not saying the chance of failure shouldn't be present, but the degree of failure is completely contrary to how the rest of the game works. I totally agree with you (so do the long war devs, to some degree, since they increased the max % on stuns in beta 3) with the chance being annoying. Basically, the devs didn't want the opportunity of stuns per mission to be the same as vanilla since you would have so many more missions. You would have swimming pools full of plasma weapons. They wanted the player to have something like 0.3 captures per mission or whatever their magic number is. There might be a better way of implementing that. Class restriction? Perhaps some way to limit the amount of stunned aliens you can recover per mission? Apocalypse required you to bring alien containment along with your transport vehicles if you wanted to bring biological stuff back to your base at all. Perhaps the % chance is the only feasible way for them to implement it given the game's engine. I don't know. Feel free to chat them up on the beta thread! They tend to take well written posts seriously, it directly impacts their updates.
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Aug 28, 2013 10:11
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CommissarMega posted:To: Dr. Shen 同志, What a strange twist my life has taken. A few weeks ago, I was a member of a criminal organisation, shooting men for money. Now I punch aliens in the face. -Zhang. (I am totally making Zhang my first MEC. It just seems so... appropriate.)
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Aug 28, 2013 10:46
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MechPlasma posted:同志, The life I knew... is gone now. My new life involves blasting aliens with purple brain beams, firing green balls of utter death, and leveling buildings with twin gatling plasma guns that were originally attached to a reverse-engineered UFO. ... ... I can hear my ancestors through the metal of this suit. Something about 'This is so awesome I think I'm jizzing ectoplasm.'
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Aug 28, 2013 10:58
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Mr. Wynand posted:Despite my mistakes with lasers (and also missing the second month sattelites by a whole day GRAH) I still managed to win quite easily on Classic. I think it's time to step up to Impossible (but not Ironman, waaaaaay too many loving bugs for that). Good call. I'm reloading save like a motherfucker no so much because I don't want any of my precious shoot-mans to die, but more because I'm sick of every enemy patrol in the game deciding that "now" is the perfect time to aggro in the same room at the same time. I just spent an hour reloading a state over and over just so that I could finish killing one cyberdisk patrol before the second disk AND the muton patrol decided to teleport across the map and join in the fun. I lost the rookie, whom I desperately needed to be a new heavy, but I won the map. Your experience may vary, but Impossible just isn't fun to me. Enemies get stupid-huge buffs to their chance to hit, and the random patrol bugs make using Ironman mode more or less impossible. I don't even mind that the aliens get a boost to their health, I just hate that they can bullseye me across the map in full cover. It seems like it's doable, especially because reloading saves pretty much means the only way you can gently caress up your game is with poor base management, but it just feels like kind of a slog.
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Aug 28, 2013 11:26
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Hellburger99 posted:Good call. I'm reloading save like a motherfucker no so much because I don't want any of my precious shoot-mans to die, but more because I'm sick of every enemy patrol in the game deciding that "now" is the perfect time to aggro in the same room at the same time. I just spent an hour reloading a state over and over just so that I could finish killing one cyberdisk patrol before the second disk AND the muton patrol decided to teleport across the map and join in the fun. I lost the rookie, whom I desperately needed to be a new heavy, but I won the map. If you're fighting against cyberdiscs, there is absolutely no reason you should ever have rookies in your squad. Go to the officer training school and buy the New Guy upgrade.
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Aug 28, 2013 12:25
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CommissarMega posted:Man, that sucks for console users. Sure, I'm a PC guy, but still- any reason they're doing this? I don't see how it would make a material difference, unless 2K lowered the price just by virtue of it being DLC vs. stand alone. From a technical point of view, there are potentially compelling reasons not to make it DLC on the consoles. The DLC / patch process for UE3 is particularly heinous on the Xbox 360.
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So I may be losing something like 4 or 5 countries by month 3 in my first Classic playthrough. I only have 3 more after that before I actually lose right? It's odd because I've been doing fairly well, I've only had to abandon one mission, and my first terror I managed to save 15/18 civs. I don't know what I could have done better other than maybe set up the satellites better?
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Aug 28, 2013 14:48
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WarpedNaba posted:The life I knew... is gone now. My new life involves blasting aliens with purple brain beams, firing green balls of utter death, and leveling buildings with twin gatling plasma guns that were originally attached to a reverse-engineered UFO. Mission log, Operation Burning Skull Squad of freaks with plasma weapons and power armor approaching the Skyranger. Fingers crossed that it's our squad of freaks. -Big Sky
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Aug 28, 2013 15:08
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I just lost two captains and a lieutenant to a panic wave caused by six mutons just endlessly blood calling and suppressing. loving mutons.
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Aug 28, 2013 15:27
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With all these journals, now we just need posters to start having their fanfics gently caress each other and summon ghosts and we'll have the X-COM LP remade.
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Aug 28, 2013 15:31
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1stGear posted:With all these journals, now we just need posters to start having their fanfics gently caress each other and summon ghosts and we'll have the X-COM LP remade. And people said you couldn't do a similar thing with Enemy Unknown.
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1stGear posted:With all these journals, now we just need posters to start having their fanfics gently caress each other and summon ghosts and we'll have the X-COM LP remade. There are some things you just don't joke about, the ressurrection of the xcom LP and and the possibility of a new matrix movie.
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Dr.Oblivious posted:Isolating aliens isn't the problem, it's the disproportionate chance of failure far out-weights the amount of work that goes into creating the "perfect" scenario to capture one single opponent. I'm not saying the chance of failure shouldn't be present, but the degree of failure is completely contrary to how the rest of the game works. The key to getting captures in Long War is running a good early economy so you can afford to get multiple Arc Throwers and perhaps Carapace. A soldier in Carapace and Alloy Plating gets +6 HP which is enough to shrug off any non-crit LPR hit with no wounds. Another thing that really, really helps is smoke grenades. The reason for this is that units standing out of cover but in smoke cannot be flanked and Arc Thrower chance to hit is not affected by smoke. This especially helps soldiers survive retaliation by Sectoids, who cannot crit without flanks and actually helps with Floaters too. Floaters have even worse aim than Sectoids on the ground. On normal difficulty they may have only a 65% shot against a soldier in regular smoke at point blank range. Thin Men remain the most dangerous early capture, but the UFO tech credit is really awesome if you can get it. The last key is leveling up Engineers to Lt. to get the Repair perk. This is easier to do in LW 2 Beta 3. If you have a Lt. Medic you can have Dense Smoke too. You can get Sectoids and Floaters pretty easily without this though.
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Aug 28, 2013 15:57
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Just wanted to share this loving sweet fanart of Dr. Vahlen I found:
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1stGear posted:With all these journals, now we just need posters to start having their fanfics gently caress each other and summon ghosts and we'll have the X-COM LP remade. Just wanted to say that effort post you made in the first thread (about using hunker down and to stop over-watching all the time) has really saved my rear end and helped me play much better in Classic IM. Thanks!
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Aug 28, 2013 16:19
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CommissarMega posted:To: Dr. Shen I probably laughed too hard at this in the office.
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Handsome Ralph posted:Just wanted to say that effort post you made in the first thread (about using hunker down and to stop over-watching all the time) has really saved my rear end and helped me play much better in Classic IM. Thanks! It sucks that the hunker down hotkey is broke still, since I use it way more in combat than I do overwatch.
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Benagain posted:I just lost two captains and a lieutenant to a panic wave caused by six mutons just endlessly blood calling and suppressing. I threw a grenade which managed to hit 4 Beserkers and 3 Mutons (fuckers came boiling out of an Abductor all at once  ). Their combined Intimidate scared the game into crashing  amanasleep posted:The key to getting captures in Long War is running a good early economy so you can afford to get multiple Arc Throwers and perhaps Carapace. A soldier in Carapace and Alloy Plating gets +6 HP which is enough to shrug off any non-crit LPR hit with no wounds. I generally make sure that when going for captures that I have someone in position to kill the alien should it go wrong. Only went wrong once, and the idiot Muton moved which triggered the Assault's CQS attack which killed him anyway
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sticksy posted:I probably laughed too hard at this in the office. Dude I'm loving all of them.
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Mr. Wynand posted:Just wanted to share this loving sweet fanart of Dr. Vahlen I found:
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A couple of missions ago I hit 9 mutons with a single 8 dmg rocket. Glorious.
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So I wound up with an Assault Psyker named Ryan "Devil Dog" O'Neill. This caused a friend of mine untold amounts of joy due to this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KyBdPeKHg The pity about finishing a game of X-Com is having to delete all my saves to make new games save data something I can navigate through.
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Onmi posted:The pity about finishing a game of X-Com is having to delete all my saves to make new games save data something I can navigate through. Play Ironman, problem solved.
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Onmi posted:So I wound up with an Assault Psyker named Ryan "Devil Dog" O'Neill. This caused a friend of mine untold amounts of joy due to this. You can just move them to an archive.
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Carnalfex posted:You fight a great deal more missions than in vanilla, so you have many more chances to land stuns. Many, many more. Don't bother trying to get one off unless it is fairly safe to do so. Always assume it will fail and have a backup plan. Also they just released beta 3, makes the mod overall a bit easier and fixes a variety of issues.
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MechPlasma posted:There's a joke about German women somewhere in here.
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Sylphosaurus posted:Isn't Vahlen supposed to be Israeli? *Well, minus the pronounciation. **Born after WW2, of course.
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CommissarMega posted:P/S: Seriously, dude. Make me a robot, or I'll go to Dr. Vahlen and have her turn me into an 8-foot tall genetically engineered supersoldier. 
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I wonder why they haven't patched the fairly gamebreaking sniper overwatch exploit yet. It can't be that hard to fix.
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Sardonik posted:I wonder why they haven't patched the fairly gamebreaking sniper overwatch exploit yet. It can't be that hard to fix. Most likely because they opted for a full overhaul targeting EW release, rather than continuing to patch up EU.
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Maybe I'm missing something, but currently in my X:COM game (Not using long war mod), my Rifle suppression medic will suppress a target, but also occasionally pretend he's in overwatch and will shoot nearby aliens that run around. Am I missing something about the suppression mechanics?
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Sweet Jesus. Just had my sniper wipe out a pack of chrysalids by one shotting all of them, then one shotting every member of a muton spawn apart from a berserker who was hit with a critical that left it with one hp and next to the guy with the zapper. I never really understood how insane in the zone can get till now.
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TalonDemonKing posted:Maybe I'm missing something, but currently in my X:COM game (Not using long war mod), my Rifle suppression medic will suppress a target, but also occasionally pretend he's in overwatch and will shoot nearby aliens that run around. Suppression is supposed to give you a free shot if the suppressed target moves. If you're shooting at non-suppressed targets, that's, uh... not supposed to happen. Are you sure you're not firing at the suppressed target?
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Suppression always seemed useless as hell to me. Whenever it's used against me, I do one of two things: A) If an enemy is shooting at me, it means he's in range of my guns as well. The squad shoots him down; the previously suppressed trooper prances daintily out of the kill zone. B) My suppressed assault trooper momentarily panics to himself, saying "Oh poo poo, I'm suppressed!" Then he comes to his senses and says "Wait a minute, I have lightning reflexes!" and prances daintily out of the kill zone. Using it against the enemy has seemed pointless as well, since if I want a free shot at an enemy within range, I can just overwatch and get the same effect.
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Suppression is better than Overwatch when facing a single unit you don't think you can kill that turn because of the aim penalty. Also, don't forget that heavies can suppress multiple units at a time with the right upgrades so they're very useful for temporarily shutting down a pack of aliens.
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Suppression gives big aim penalties to the suppressed units. What difficulty are you playing on? On Classic+ those fuckers will headshot your rookies/squadies out of full cover like it's nothing, with or without overwatch.
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King Doom posted:Sweet Jesus. Just had my sniper wipe out a pack of chrysalids by one shotting all of them, then one shotting every member of a muton spawn apart from a berserker who was hit with a critical that left it with one hp and next to the guy with the zapper. In The Zone really shines when you can trigger it. Every other time, you're wishing you had Double Tap instead.
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Handsome Ralph posted:Just wanted to say that effort post you made in the first thread (about using hunker down and to stop over-watching all the time) has really saved my rear end and helped me play much better in Classic IM. Thanks! You're welcome! Although I was playing a game the other day where an Overwatched Sectoid that didn't appear to be panicking stood up and ran. My entire world came crashing down.
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