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At least it wasn't on the floor... Maybe I've just been in China too long, but a little boy peeing in a public place doesn't phase me one bit. Would it have been okay if it had been outside against a wall or into some bushes?
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At some point there's enough interest that there needs to be an entire news source dedicated solely to Chinese people peeing and pooping in public. I mean I know the SCMP is pulling its weight, but just from a money point of view the eyeballs that site would drive make it economically viable. Like PeopleOfWalmart or something. Surprisingly I can't find something like this by googling [chinese making GBS threads in public blog tubmlr], though there are several Quora discussions. Googling [making GBS threads in public tumblr] brings up about what you would expect and it is 0_o. Surely one of you Chinapoos has run across such a site.
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The one drawback of developing a serious drinking habit is losing the moral high ground when it comes to public urination. Thankfully I can still look down my nose at street making GBS threads.
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No see this one is a cool remix because it's a Chinese person peeing in public in foreign.
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DaiJiaTeng posted:At least it wasn't on the floor... Against a wall, maybe; at least the rain will get to it eventually. Into some bushes, sure. It'll soak into the ground, and again, the rain will dilute it. Pissing into the garbage, someone has to handle it. It's likely indoors, and it isn't going anywhere until someone handles it. When the bag is removed it may (probably will) leak. It may leak before it is removed, which means either that trash can is going to smell like piss, or someone's going to have to wash the whole thing out, which kind of defeats half the purpose of the trash bag. Basically, trash cans are for solid waste...even making GBS threads into the trash can (as long as you aren't also pissing into it) would be preferable. I actually consider these things when looking for somewhere to piss. Arglebargle III posted:No see this one is a cool remix because it's a Chinese person peeing in public in foreign. More like "oh god, it's spreading. Soon Chinese people will be making GBS threads and pissing in trains, elevators, trash cans, and on floors EVERYWHERE."
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Aug 30, 2013 10:20
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China goons know this, but each time I go back to the mainland and see street making GBS threads or peeing, I just whip out my camera and take pictures. Yes, it's vulgar behaviour and sometimes the parents get mad at me. I'm sick and tired of looking the other way when I see street shitters. Heck this country is always looking the other way, maybe that's why it's so freaking corrupt and disorderly. Well, maybe they should have taken their kids to a toilet and not just let them go whenever and where ever  6 year olds just dropping their pants out of the blue is not cool Man I got to start a tumblr of kids pooing every where 
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caberham posted:Man I got to start a tumblr of kids pooing every where Cool as long as I get to jumpstart my freelance chinablogging career on exposing notorious HK pedophile ring "the goons"
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caberham posted:China goons know this, but each time I go back to the mainland and see street making GBS threads or peeing, I just whip out my camera and take pictures. Yes, it's vulgar behaviour and sometimes the parents get mad at me. I'm sick and tired of looking the other way when I see street shitters. Heck this country is always looking the other way, maybe that's why it's so freaking corrupt and disorderly. Somehow I get the feeling that such a tumblr would attract a very different audience rather than the one you're hoping for.  
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DaiJiaTeng posted:At least it wasn't on the floor... While walking around Chinatown I was somewhat surprised to see grown men pull their kids pants down, hoist them over the curb, and just let them go. Only happened twice. Was kinda weird. These kids probably should have still been in pull ups.
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:While walking around Chinatown I was somewhat surprised to see grown men pull their kids pants down, hoist them over the curb, and just let them go. Only happened twice. Was kinda weird. These kids probably should have still been in pull ups. Diaperless potty training is faster, cheaper and less wasteful than diapers.
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Please don't make excuses for the destruction of public places.
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TheBuilder posted:Please don't make excuses for the destruction of public places. Poop doesn't destroy anything. Helps the grass grow 
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Pro-PRC Laowai posted:Poop doesn't destroy anything. Helps the grass grow
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It really is a peasant attitude. Sidewalks and department stores are perfect places to drop trou and poo poo because it helps the grass grow! 
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I say it was surprising, but it's common sight in NOLA as well. Just not during the day. Or by anyone sober.
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Pro-PRC Laowai posted:Diaperless potty training is faster, cheaper and less wasteful than diapers. Cost and waste are mostly mitigated if you use cloth nappies. But more broadly, no. Just no. Living in Henan I see a big pile of human poo poo on the street at least twice a day, if it was only infants then it wouldn't be so bad, but it's not. It's not like this is Bangladesh either: there are public toilets everywhere but for some reason people haven't transcended that bovine insouciance towards making GBS threads where they stand. Behind my flat there is a little piece of waste ground which the elderly parents of university lecturers use to grow vegetables. There's a little path through the middle of the allotments and on three occasions I have discovered people literally making GBS threads in the fields. This is in the shadow of tower blocks and in the middle of a loving university campus. This is raw, unprocessed human poo poo going from bowel to lettuce to plate in as many stages. This isn't some charming sub-Freudian quirk of infant wrangling, this is urbanization overtaking the transcendence of open defection. The Taunton All-Women's Vegelesbian Bhuddist Yoga Pod and Knitting Circle can debate the finer points of whether young Tarquin is going to be deeply scarred by that horrible occidental abuse the "anal fixation", but I'd rather not have to live with the social consequences of the acceptance of poor sanitation. For every child making GBS threads in a trash can in Shanghai there's another crapping into the water supply of a village in Sichuan. lovely public health and insanitary overcrowding is why bird/swine/mongoose/panda flu starts in Asialand. /crapchat now, everyone please. GuestBob fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Aug 30, 2013 |
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quote:urbanization overtaking the transcendence of open defecation New thread title right here.
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Arglebargle III posted:It really is a peasant attitude.
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ReindeerF posted:It's pretty unique to you guys, which is what fascinates me. I spend time in Laos, Cambodia, Thailand and so on and I've never, ever seen someone take the kids to the pool in public. I'll allow there's plenty of public pissing by rural migrants to the big city, and this actually came up in the top 5 of a national survey of things that irritate Thai people the most (people not prostrating themselves enough was just below it), but everyone in all these countries - some of them dirt poor - somehow knows not to poo poo on the table. Is this like the Germans where there's a weird cultural poop obsession? Wait is the German poop obsession an actual thing? I always thought that it was just a dig about scat porn being made in Germany or something.
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Lawman 0 posted:Wait is the German poop obsession an actual thing? I always thought that it was just a dig about scat porn being made in Germany or something. They've been obsessed with poo poo since at least Martin Luther's time. http://www.academia.edu/1016951/German_Hercules_The_Impact_of_Scatology_on_the_Image_of_Martin_Luther_as_a_Man_1483-1546 Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Aug 30, 2013 |
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I thought it was kind of a weird fetish deal, but there was a deal on toilet design across the world and this lecturer swore that toilets were traditionally designed a certain way (I don't mean massively different, just with more viewing space) in Germany because you're supposed to look at your poop once a day. So, I dunno, maybe it's real. Have to ask a German.
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Re: the kid pissing in the garbage can above, the context here is that it's an indoor, relatively high-end mall in Vancouver, and they're probably no more than fifty feet away from a bathroom.
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I have a poo poo shelf at home. The toilets at works don't, because they are newer. And yes, I look every single time. It's a habit.
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GuestBob posted:Living in Henan I see a big pile of human poo poo on the street at least twice a day, if it was only infants then it wouldn't be so bad, but it's not. It's not like this is Bangladesh either: there are public toilets everywhere but for some reason people haven't transcended that bovine insouciance towards making GBS threads where they stand. I think even within China this is a regional thing. I've never seen this happening in Shenzhen or Guangzhou. I've never seen human feces on the street here at all, actually,
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Fine-able Offense posted:Re: the kid pissing in the garbage can above, the context here is that it's an indoor, relatively high-end mall in Vancouver, and they're probably no more than fifty feet away from a bathroom. Seen this happen in a high-end mall in Beijing, bathroom about 100 feet away.
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Nope street shitters and peeing here too in Shenzhen every other time I'm in Shenzhen. In fact the most ridiculous one I saw was a mom arcing her baby piss two feet away like a bridge into the public washing basin inside a fast food restaurant.
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caberham posted:Nope street shitters and peeing here too in Shenzhen every other time I'm in Shenzhen. In fact the most ridiculous one I saw was a mom arcing her baby piss two feet away like a bridge into the public washing basin inside a fast food restaurant. When I was on campus in Wudaokou used to see mothers walking their kids around all the time and often saw them pull the kids pants down and help them piss. Mercifully it was usually on a tree. I've never seen it being done in a public bin. ^^To be fair, I don't think I've ever encountered a Chinese person who's said "Oh yeah by the way, street-making GBS threads's an awesome cultural feature". You could even see the difference in Beijing between 2003 and 2007 in terms of public spitting. Haven't yet encountered public making GBS threads. Though I've seen the remnants several times in London, include once outside a flat I rented. Hong XiuQuan fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Aug 30, 2013 |
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Chickenwalker posted:The big problem in China isn't just the stupidity of the things being done. It's the pig-headed insistence that their way is right and how dare anyone question China's unique butterfly of a culture. This is what anthropology has done for the world folks. The coining of the word ethnocentrism has given every lovely third-world country license to carry on being stupid. That's a bit unfair to anthropologists; absolute culture relativism has been out of fashion in anthropology for a while.
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quote:That and the fact that nobody has the balls to actually take people to task for antisocial behavior. Your run-of-the-mill Chinese would never think to yell at someone for hocking loogies or making GBS threads on the ground or picking their nose or what have you. They're too embarrassed and it's just not done. And thus the streetshitters rule the land, asscheeks blowing proudly in the wind, free from the reproachful glances of actual civilization. I really really hate the excuse that people use culture as their excuse for lovely behavior. It's not like everyone in China automatically litters or poos in the streets. Everyone is perfectly capable of using the toilet but you can argue that public space is viewed differently. Everyone is passive aggressive and then one day just blow up and go on a racist tirade. I was at a fancy pants mall in Shenzhen when I saw grandparents inducing their kid to pee into the trash can when the bathroom is right next to them. Fuckers got embarrassed when I I called them out and started screaming at me and acting all embarrassed. Ugh, I just kind of given up afterwards and just took pictures to shame.
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Chickenwalker posted:It should never have been in fashion. You can't just take it back. People are going to go on propping up their idiocy with that for the rest of eternity. Yeah, in the real world anthropological cultural relativism is when you suspend judgement when learning about a culture and people, not going: "yo all this is cool go on we are all cool too". It has been misconstrued like that by idiot amateurs though!
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One of the most frustrating parts of a conversation in China is when you encounter the 'foreigners can't understand' piece and parsing to what extent that is true and to what extent it is a deflection. One example is when I was getting to know an MIT/Harvard trained friend in Beijing and he constantly insisted on referring to Taiwan as ChineseTaiwan. When I questioned him about this he reverted to 'foreigners can't understand', even though I had far more direct experience with Taiwan than he had. I then began referring to every province and city as Chinese such and such until he asked me why I was doing that. I explained and he got it. He has since become an activist for Tibet and often hosts Red and Yellow Hat Tibetan Rinpoche's in Beijing. At the same time he still justifies polygamy and corporal punishment in child raising based on a completely idealized version of Chinese history in which he seems to imagine himself as some sort of historical elite. He remains a good friend and we have talked together about all this, though I constantly offend him. Actually the last time I saw him he started telling me about how Denmark had really offended the Chinese. While I feel most 'westerners' are not actively responsible for the effects of colonial history (and he knows this) I asked him to please list the countries that have not offended the Chinese sensibility over the past decades. I was once in an long after dinner conversation at a Ch'an center on making GBS threads, making GBS threads jokes, outhouses, and toilets that eventually encountered the 'foreigners can't understand', specifically because they did not live through the cultural history. There was no place to go in that conversation at all. I frequently give talks on culture shock which I more or less entitle 'Eating, making GBS threads and loving' based on the premise that when you enter another cultural context you no longer know how to do any of these things. This does not imply anything about cultural superiority related to hygiene and sanitation one way or another. So far it is literally the case that the only successful 'sustainable development' projects I have seen in China start with hygiene and sanitation and move from there to food and means of production. Built environment, which is usually first for such efforts, is dead last. By the time you get to that there is sufficient community to enable real participatory design and action. Part of this is that the community begins to take pride in the sanitation and such. My guess is that when this is eventually handled it will be done through some large, top down campaign of posters and random 'enforcement'. Usually this is based on a kind of nationalism in which 'China' suddenly realizes it is looking bad or uncivilized. It has limited effect, but does have some effect. The queuing culture on Beijing subways was changed for a time (I don't know how it is this year) in a way that was noticeably different from what you might find in Shanghai for instance. Just after the 'cultural revolution' there was an extensive anti-spitting campaign related to infectious disease that had some limited (temporary) effect. This is the difficulty with such 'force' based systemic interventions. They only stay in existence as long as the force is applied. The application of force is not sustainable at this level for a variety of reasons, including 'culture' and in its absence behavior reverts.
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ReindeerF posted:I thought it was kind of a weird fetish deal, but there was a deal on toilet design across the world and this lecturer swore that toilets were traditionally designed a certain way (I don't mean massively different, just with more viewing space) in Germany because you're supposed to look at your poop once a day. So, I dunno, maybe it's real. Have to ask a German. There was a documentary on that on ARTE some time ago, but I just payed attention tangentially. I think it had something to do with some 19th century medical advice to check your poop at least once a day. Before that, people would use chamber pots that they'd empty on their midden or into some (public)cesspit (or the streets). As far as street making GBS threads goes, I think they said it was pretty common at least for the lower classes to just crap whereever they felt up to the first half of the 19th century. Hence the medieval plateau slippers. It's very likely that each city had it's own regulations regarding where to dump your potty and who collects what - I recall hearing something about a 16th century ban of just dumping your pot out of the window at a certain daytime, and regulations of how to cover your cesspit, so that you have fewer people drown who walk home at night. You see the Sanitary Movement of the first half of the 19th century putting an end to streetshitting and all the other fun stuff - like burying dead people close to public wells. 
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You know what I think when I read that kind of history? "I bet oral sex was really loving unpopular until about the latter half of the 20th century."
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InspectorBloor posted:There was a documentary on that on ARTE some time ago, but I just payed attention tangentially. I think it had something to do with some 19th century medical advice to check your poop at least once a day. Before that, people would use chamber pots that they'd empty on their midden or into some (public)cesspit (or the streets). As far as street making GBS threads goes, I think they said it was pretty common at least for the lower classes to just crap whereever they felt up to the first half of the 19th century. Hence the medieval plateau slippers. It's very likely that each city had it's own regulations regarding where to dump your potty and who collects what - I recall hearing something about a 16th century ban of just dumping your pot out of the window at a certain daytime, and regulations of how to cover your cesspit, so that you have fewer people drown who walk home at night. You see the Sanitary Movement of the first half of the 19th century putting an end to streetshitting and all the other fun stuff - like burying dead people close to public wells. What's that TV show in the US set in the old West? Deadwood? People making GBS threads pissing in the streets while a guy five feet away is getting a hummer on the front porch of the saloon on Main Street at noon time.
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I have no idea. We forgot Syphilis, but let's not derail this thread any further. If you want to talk about poo poo, we could always head on over to the german thread. There, elections are soon to be upon us.
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caberham posted:Nope street shitters and peeing here too in Shenzhen every other time I'm in Shenzhen. In fact the most ridiculous one I saw was a mom arcing her baby piss two feet away like a bridge into the public washing basin inside a fast food restaurant. Well I see peeing all the time.
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InspectorBloor posted:I have no idea. We forgot Syphilis, but let's not derail this thread any further. If you want to talk about poo poo, we could always head on over to the german thread. There, elections are soon to be upon us. Are you joking? Street making GBS threads is in the thread title bud, this isn't a derail. What gets me is that for a culture that is supposedly shame-based Chinese people seem to experience no shame for their public behavior.
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Arglebargle III posted:Are you joking? Street making GBS threads is in the thread title bud, this isn't a derail. What gets me is that for a culture that is supposedly shame-based Chinese people seem to experience no shame for their public behavior. This. All I hear from the wife/mother in law is "save face save face save face", yet my sister in law is scandalous as hell.
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