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Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?
Ramrod XTreme

kes posted:

That's not a particularly exciting price and certainly is not 50% off any non-ripoff price.

That would depend on the country you live in and the average retail price for the chair. It was a good discount on the chair, and I am happy with it. If you are looking for a non-foam based ergonomic chair, this is definitely one to consider.

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Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Hamelekim posted:

That would depend on the country you live in and the average retail price for the chair. It was a good discount on the chair, and I am happy with it. If you are looking for a non-foam based ergonomic chair, this is definitely one to consider.
That IS the average retail price for the chair. You paid retail price. Sorry, even with tax and freight included, I don't think you got any amazing discount.

Hamelekim
Feb 25, 2006

And another thing... if global warming is real. How come it's so damn cold?
Ramrod XTreme

Rotten Red Rod posted:

That IS the average retail price for the chair. You paid retail price. Sorry, even with tax and freight included, I don't think you got any amazing discount.

You are wrong, but it's a waste of time to continue the discussion on the price.

It's a great chair and anyone who buys one will be happy with it, end of story.

Jack_tripper
Jun 7, 2009
not sure how it's a waste of time since this whole thread is basically about getting a good deal on the handful of quality chair designs that are out there; this site http://grshop.com/herman-miller-embody-chair-build-your-own.html has them for $1100 shipped

titaniumone
Jun 10, 2001

Jack_tripper posted:

not sure how it's a waste of time since this whole thread is basically about getting a good deal on the handful of quality chair designs that are out there; this site http://grshop.com/herman-miller-embody-chair-build-your-own.html has them for $1100 shipped

Agreed, this all about chairs and you're providing misinformation on the price of a well-recommended chair in this thread.

$1200 CAD shipped isn't 50% off. It is a normal price for an Embody. Here's my invoice with titanium base and upgraded fabric:
code:
CN122AWAA +Wk Chr,Embody,Std-Ht,Fully Adj Arms $999.00 $999.00
Base Finish +titanium XT
Frame Finish +graphite G1
Casters C7 +2 1/2" caster, black yoke, hard floors or carpet
Fabric +balance-Pr Cat 6 35
balance +balance carbon 12
Subtotal $999.00
Delivery and Installation $0.00 $0.00
HST $129.87 $129.87
Grand Total: $1,128.87
If you're paying more than $1200 CAD shipped for an Embody, you're getting ripped off. If you're paying less, you're getting a bit of a deal.

CerebralDonut
Mar 5, 2004

Saxophone posted:

So I stumbled across this article

http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-office-chair-is-the-steelcase-leap/

That mentions the ikea Marcus and has a link to it.

What do you guys think? I don't work from it, just play lots of computer games, but I can hang with 200 bucks.

Can anyone else comment on whether this chair is decent or not? I don't have the dough to really afford a Herman Miller at the moment (student), but this is within my price range.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
Can anyone recommend me a chair that is good and comfortable that lets you lock the chair in place without the weird tension meter thing? I hate them. I either have to have it on 0 and lean back all the time or have it twisted up a little and push me forward all time. I just want something that I can lock in place that I don't have to spend forever fiddling with every time I move slightly, like a car chair. I have about $200 to spend (can go a little overr), and i need to be able to get it in Australia. To put some perspective on that, if you link me to something like the Ikea Markus, it's $400 here compared to $200 in America. I just got an Ikea Vilgot and I'm going to take it back because the stupid tension thing they have is annoying and after a while the frame of the backrest gets uncomrfotable.

E: Wow the Vilgot is literally half price in America. Im going to add a requirement, make the chair be from somewhere that isn't Ikea because gently caress that, they are a rip off.

underage at the vape shop fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Sep 5, 2013

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

CerebralDonut posted:

Can anyone else comment on whether this chair is decent or not? I don't have the dough to really afford a Herman Miller at the moment (student), but this is within my price range.

The Leap is awesome. I can't recommend it enough. I would definitely make sure you get the Leap V2, though. I snagged a V2 to replace my original at work - the arms have more adjustments and are more comfortable, the chair adjusts its seat angle automatically to support you if you lean forward as I tend to do when a particularly stupid email comes in and I have to make sure I am reading it right (it helps to lean forward, squint, and then mutter "you idiot(s)" before leaning back smugly). The V1 had manual adjustments for that, but that interrupts my more-superior-than-thou display of smugness. The back of the chair is also a little bit more comfortable and a bit bigger. V2 > V1.

the littlest prince
Sep 23, 2006


FreelanceSocialist posted:

The Leap is awesome. I can't recommend it enough. I would definitely make sure you get the Leap V2, though. I snagged a V2 to replace my original at work - the arms have more adjustments and are more comfortable, the chair adjusts its seat angle automatically to support you if you lean forward as I tend to do when a particularly stupid email comes in and I have to make sure I am reading it right (it helps to lean forward, squint, and then mutter "you idiot(s)" before leaning back smugly). The V1 had manual adjustments for that, but that interrupts my more-superior-than-thou display of smugness. The back of the chair is also a little bit more comfortable and a bit bigger. V2 > V1.

He's talking about the IKEA Marcus.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Oh, well that's less exciting :( Can't help there, sorry.

CerebralDonut
Mar 5, 2004

the littlest prince posted:

He's talking about the IKEA Marcus.

Yeah sorry, should have specified.

Falcon2001
Oct 10, 2004

Eat your hamburgers, Apollo.
Pillbug
Anyone know of a good place in the Seattle region to test out a few of the more expensive chairs? Leap v2 etc? I have a leap V2 at work but woudl like to try some of the other ones just in case.

MancXVI
Feb 14, 2002

Falcon2001 posted:

Anyone know of a good place in the Seattle region to test out a few of the more expensive chairs? Leap v2 etc? I have a leap V2 at work but woudl like to try some of the other ones just in case.

There's a Design Within Reach downtown and a place called Relax the Back up in Lynnwood.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



Any deals floating around with used Leaps, ideally in the Chicago area?

jarjarbinksfan621
Mar 4, 2012

CerebralDonut posted:

Can anyone else comment on whether this chair is decent or not? I don't have the dough to really afford a Herman Miller at the moment (student), but this is within my price range.

I'm not an owner, but I happened to sit in an Ikea Markus at the store today (along with every other desk chair they have). Quite comfortable, surprisingly so for something that looks like a matrix set piece. Even supported my neck in a comfortable manner. Probably the most comfortable desk chair I sat in at Ikea, actually. Sorry that my praise is vague, but I only sat in it for like 2 minutes, 2 times. I didn't get it because I felt like being cheap and went with the $60 torkel http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/30212487/ which is a pretty decent basic chair if you're a skinny guy edit: a skinny 3rd grader, bottom cushion feels like crap fast and I'm under 150lbs. I just don't like the armrests. They're not very wide, so it can be awkward to keep my elbow on them. I didn't notice in the store, because I forgot how armrests operate for computer usage, in action, coming from long time armless task chair usage. Back to the Markus, it looks like it has similar skinny arms, but it might not be an issue since the Markus has a wider seat.


Do you guys think I can saw the arms off the Torkel and still maintain the structural integrity? (I know people have done this to similar chairs, but I dunno if some cheap ikea chair will hold up.)

jarjarbinksfan621 fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Sep 12, 2013

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

jarjarbinksfan621 posted:

I'm not an owner, but I happened to sit in an Ikea Markus at the store today (along with every other desk chair they have). Quite comfortable, surprisingly so for something that looks like a matrix set piece. Even supported my neck in a comfortable manner. Probably the most comfortable desk chair I sat in at Ikea, actually. Sorry that my praise is vague, but I only sat in it for like 2 minutes, 2 times. I didn't get it because I felt like being cheap and went with the $60 torkel http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/30212487/ which is a pretty decent basic chair if you're a skinny guy. I just don't like the armrests. They're not very wide, so it can be awkward to keep my elbow on them. I didn't notice in the store, because I forgot how armrests operate for computer usage, in action, coming from long time armless task chair usage. Back to the Markus, it looks like it has similar skinny arms, but it might not be an issue since the Markus has a wider seat.


Do you guys think I can saw the arms off the Torkel and still maintain the structural integrity? (I know people have done this to similar chairs, but I dunno if some cheap ikea chair will hold up.)


That chair looks like it will be nothing more than a rolling ottoman if you take the arms off.

If you saw them rather than unbolting them.. I suspect you'll end up with a 'surprise ottoman'.

krooj
Dec 2, 2006

Jack_tripper posted:

not sure how it's a waste of time since this whole thread is basically about getting a good deal on the handful of quality chair designs that are out there; this site http://grshop.com/herman-miller-embody-chair-build-your-own.html has them for $1100 shipped

If you're in southern ontario, these guys can get you a basic black model for $850 + HST. I went this route, and it was fine. They don't keep stock, so expect to wait a few weeks.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

Question for you Aeron owners out there. I'm finding the lumbar pad on this thing to be pretty unpleasant, the angle it is at is such that the top part is always angled into my back. Is this a common problem with them? Basically I'm trying to figure out if either the chair is setup wrong, or I'm sitting in it wrong, or perhaps it's just something I need to get used to (coming from sitting in lovely chairs all my life I don't have any idea really). Anyone have any feelings on the PostureFit addon as opposed to the default pad?

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
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Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

Question for you Aeron owners out there. I'm finding the lumbar pad on this thing to be pretty unpleasant, the angle it is at is such that the top part is always angled into my back. Is this a common problem with them? Basically I'm trying to figure out if either the chair is setup wrong, or I'm sitting in it wrong, or perhaps it's just something I need to get used to (coming from sitting in lovely chairs all my life I don't have any idea really). Anyone have any feelings on the PostureFit addon as opposed to the default pad?

Have you tried flipping it?

Saxophone
Sep 19, 2006


http://stlouis.craigslist.org/bfs/4052081667.html

How would I go about confirming that these are indeed Steelcase chairs? 100 bucks sounds like a steal, but I don't want to get hosed.

uhhhhahhhhohahhh
Oct 9, 2012
I can take photos of my Steelcase Leap if you want something to take with you and compare

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

evol262 posted:

Have you tried flipping it?

Yeah, the issue isn't the depth, it's the angle that it sits at seems wrong.

jarjarbinksfan621
Mar 4, 2012

hailthefish posted:

That chair looks like it will be nothing more than a rolling ottoman if you take the arms off.

If you saw them rather than unbolting them.. I suspect you'll end up with a 'surprise ottoman'.

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of, and I think your prediction would be right. I'm just gonna return it and try the Vilgot or the Markus instead. Good thing I didn't saw, I've come to realize that the bottom cushion has really lackluster padding as well.

jarjarbinksfan621
Mar 4, 2012
poo poo, meant to edit a post.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Saxophone posted:

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/bfs/4052081667.html

How would I go about confirming that these are indeed Steelcase chairs? 100 bucks sounds like a steal, but I don't want to get hosed.

They all should have tags including date/place of manufacture on the bottom. If not, I wouldn't do it.

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

jarjarbinksfan621 posted:

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of, and I think your prediction would be right. I'm just gonna return it and try the Vilgot or the Markus instead. Good thing I didn't saw, I've come to realize that the bottom cushion has really lackluster padding as well.

I have a similar, non-Ikea chair to the one you were asking about, with lackluster seat padding. Within a week it was like sitting on leather-covered plywood.

Trying another chair is probably the best plan. There have been good things said in this thread about the Ikea Markus.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Saxophone posted:

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/bfs/4052081667.html

How would I go about confirming that these are indeed Steelcase chairs? 100 bucks sounds like a steal, but I don't want to get hosed.

There are a lot of clones that look SIMILAR to Leaps, but none that look EXACTLY like Leaps. The ones in that photo look EXACTLY like Leaps. A slightly older model, but Leaps none the less.

Bring some photos of Leaps from Steelcase's website if you want to be sure, but to me the only thing that looks different is the armpad (which was indeed different on older versions of Leaps).

Rollie Fingers
Jul 28, 2002

I've just bought a Steelcase Leap V2 for home, and after using it for a couple of weeks, I have to say it kicks the crap out of the leg-numbing Aeron I use at work. It's by far the best premium ergonomic chair I've used, and I've had Aeron, Mirra and Humanscale Freedom at my various workplaces in the past. Thanks to everyone in this thread for recommending it, because I would've never known about it otherwise.

Just from my personal experience, I'd rate them in the following order: Leap V2, Mirra, Humanscale Freedom, Aeron.

Dick Fagballzson
Sep 29, 2005
I bought a refurb Steelcase Leap V1 on ebay for $195 shipped. Is this a good deal or did I get ripped off? I couldn't take my Ikea chair any longer. It was destroying my back.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
That was a good deal. The Leap V1 is a great chair with only minor differences from the V2.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Quanta posted:

Just from my personal experience, I'd rate them in the following order: Leap V2, Mirra, Humanscale Freedom, Aeron.
That sounds pretty accurate. The Leap isn't Steelcase's latest and greatest that they're pushing - that'd be the Gesture, and to a lesser extent, the Think - but it's what is known and sells, like the Aeron. A lot of companies filled up on Leaps years ago and are now offloading them, similar to the flood of Aerons that hit the market after the dot-com bomb. Doesn't mean it's a bad chair, or the best either - but it's probably the best that's easily available to consumers at the moment.

The Mirra is basically Herman Miller's Aeron 2.0. The Aeron was a revolution in its day but it's now a dinosaur that is injuring its users. If you're going to get a HM chair, do not get an Aeron, whatever you do - the Mirra, while not ideal, addresses a lot of its ergonomic failings.

As for the Humanscale Freedom, I just don't get that chairs' appear. I think it's a horrible piece of crap that moves in really weird, counter-intuitive ways contrary to how a human body actually moves. Once again, Humanscale sells a lot of them, but they're focusing on marketing their latest chair, the Smart. Which is better than the Freedom, but that's faint praise.

Chair nerd, out.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



FYI http://www.ebay.com/itm/SteelCase-Leap-V2-Chair-Used-Very-Good-Condition-See-Details-/300964161762?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4612dca8e2

Bought one, should he here next week. Seems like a good deal.

concise
Aug 31, 2004

Ain't much to do
'round here.


All gone :(

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004
Anyone have an opinion on the AllSteel Acuity vs. Herman Miller Aeron?

Dick Fagballzson
Sep 29, 2005
My Leap V1 arrived and it looks and feels brand new. I'm guessing because the build quality on these things is so good they don't age like normal cheap office furniture.

Edit: Nevermind. Figured out all of the adjustments. drat is this thing comfortable and supportive. I didn't know what I was missing sitting on cheap, crappy chairs all of those years.

Dick Fagballzson fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Sep 19, 2013

notlibber
Dec 29, 2012

demonachizer posted:

Anyone have an opinion on the AllSteel Acuity vs. Herman Miller Aeron?

Had both of these at work and sat in each for a year or two. I prefer the Acuity overall. When I was fatter I would pop out the lumbar support on the aeron a lot so that is a mark against. I find the mesh on the Acuity feels better, its the right amount of springy if that makes any sense I also liked to have the armrests positioned more forward which is possible on the acuity (and maybe other allsteels) but not possible on the aeron. All subjective but there you go

jeeves
May 27, 2001

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Aeron talk:

I feel like the forward tilt adjustment on my aeron may have broken. My chair is stuck super straight forward, and when I try to adjust the left front knob down, I can kind of feel the cord is no longer held in place by the knob like the back left knob's cord is.

I don't know how to exactly describe these cords, they are sort of like break lines on bicycles. Trying to google anything about fixing the front tilt just points me to webpages that show me how to use the knob, and not how to fix the insides. Anyone got any suggestions?

Edit - I think I fixed it, but this would probably be good to know for the future if anyone knows.

jeeves fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Sep 21, 2013

B-Nasty
May 25, 2005

jeeves posted:

I don't know how to exactly describe these cords, they are sort of like break lines on bicycles. Trying to google anything about fixing the front tilt just points me to webpages that show me how to use the knob, and not how to fix the insides. Anyone got any suggestions?



Call HM. Seriously. Assuming it's still under their generous warranty, I've had excellent experiences with them diagnosing the problem and shipping necessary parts. Part of what you're paying for with a quality chair is the guarantee, and HM seems good on honoring it.

Yeast Confection
Oct 7, 2005
Does anyone know if something like this HumanScale saddle is any good for long sits? They're reasonably priced at under $400.


I'm constantly at war with the arms and backs of chairs. I'm using a stability ball right now, but it's beginning to bother the under-sides of my thighs. I wish I could afford an Embody.

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The Diddler
Jun 22, 2006



I bought one of these, but I can't figure out how to put it together. They shipped it with the back off, and I can't make it go back on. Do I need to disassemble the whole back to put it back on or what?

EDIT: Figured it out

The Diddler fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Sep 27, 2013

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