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sadfly posted:new Dean Blunt record just came out of nowhere a couple days ago. on my first listen right now, whoa. it's pretty much a sequel to The Redeemer, but much shorter and possibly more optimistic? dramatic? I can never find the right words to describe this guy... drat. so good. The shortness of it is the best part, I was disappointed in The Redeemer probably because of how long and sprawling it was. Stone Island is awesome though and the Joanne Robertson track is really great.
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chime_on posted:The Advisory Circle - Mind How You Go There's a comp, 'Down To The Silver Sea' which I have on good authority as being a good starting point
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6nYKMFaatU New Jim Ferraro from NYC HELL. Album is gonna destroy.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6nYKMFaatU
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New OPN. Album due September 30th.
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Cobweb Heart posted:New OPN. Album due September 30th. The full album leaked a good while ago now. It's...interesting. Last track is the best.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:The full album leaked a good while ago now. It's...interesting. I actually hated the single when it first was put out. But I really turned around on it when I listened to the album as a whole. But yeah chrome country is good. In fact I really liked the last three tracks.
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just got back from NYC. was supposed to see Ferraro in Brooklyn last night but the show got shut down right before he came on. gently caress
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sadfly posted:just got back from NYC. was supposed to see Ferraro in Brooklyn last night but the show got shut down right before he came on. gently caress the show at 285 kent ?
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Warp just posted a video for the second-to-last track off the 0PN album. I'd link it, but it got pulled by Youtube for being largely full of wierd cut-up hentai anime and furry vore oddness. Went surprisingly well with the music though.
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HauntedRobot posted:Warp just posted a video for the second-to-last track off the 0PN album. I'd link it, but it got pulled by Youtube for being largely full of wierd cut-up hentai anime and furry vore oddness. Went surprisingly well with the music though. It's up at pointnever.com. It's pretty weird.
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It's an absolutely amazing video, works so well with the song.
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the video is indeed really good so heres a direct link to it: http://vimeo.com/75402303#at=0
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In love with that video. I'm surprised they didn't incorporate that Russian pixel artist with the Spanish name into it, though, would've really fit that hentai game (?) aesthetic. EDIT: Did they add that monologue just for the video? I really like it with the instrumental. Mike_V fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Sep 26, 2013 |
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That video actually fits pretty well with Oneohtrix's music as a whole. To me his work has always felt like its about creating and/or exploring these hermetic virtual worlds- the nostalgic and timeless "zones without people" of Rifts, the gorgeous sonic landscapes of Returnal, or the bizarre stoner sci-fi backwards-looking future of Replica. This video pairs his song with another closed world alien to most of us (I'm assuming), that of anime/hentai/furry fetishists. The overall impression I got was that the fantasy is no longer enough for people engaging in these fetishes, they need their fantasies to be mirrored in the real world. Hence the real women gyrating with fake anime faces on- It's like hyper-sexualized anime women are no longer abstracted representations of real women, but rather real women are a flawed reflection of anime and must be molded to live up to that ideal. The sign has become more important, and more appealing, than what it signifies. Something I often wonder about is the effects of internet porn on sexuality, and how bizarre it is that even the most sexually active people in my generation will probably end up watching way more strangers having sex than they will have real sex themselves. Anyway, I'm still not sure how the new album fits in with the themes running through the other main OPN releases that I mentioned earlier in the thread. Maybe the title is a clue- all his main albums names' start with R, so R plus Seven means he's taking their ideas as a starting point but adding a bunch more? Mike_V posted:EDIT: Did they add that monologue just for the video? I really like it with the instrumental. Yeah, its not on the album. Lord Krangdar fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Sep 26, 2013 |
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Definitely an extrapolation of Replica, and this time less murky infinite past-future mirror regress and more artifice and hyperreality. I agree totally with the point about the "flawed reflections" of reality, and how, to compensate the subjects of the video try to make their abstractions flesh because it's exactly what's happening in the album with the General MIDI instrumentation, which are crude attempts to model a real instrument but without the flaws and inconveniences of that real instrument. The trade-off being that you have this hyperreal abstraction that, much like our realdoll anime lady, lacks any kind of soul or character. Listen to it enough times and you'll notice how interesting and weird the timbre of these "fake" instruments really are. Album is really growing on me, there are just fragments of total beauty in what is otherwise the musical equivalent of a highly polished, backlit anime model display case in some loner's bedroom. That is not a negative criticism; it is a beautiful "Still Life". Someone give me a job at Tiny Mix Tapes please o.m. 94 fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Sep 26, 2013 |
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Or we could say that there is still life. I really need NYC, Hell 3:00 AM to come out.
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Mike_V posted:Or we could say that there is still life. Yeah Ferraro is doing a European tour (coming nowhere near me  ) soon to promote the album, I cannot wait, all the preview songs were amazing
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Fantastic interview with Molly Herndon, James Ferraro and Dan Lopatin that just popped up a couple days agoRWScissors posted:the show at 285 kent ? yep. I guess they had a leaky a/c (which I was standing under) and someone reported it. 
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Here's another great interview with Lopatin where he talks about the new album, talking about music without having formal music theory education, representing space and time in music, music as [representing] physical objects, and a bunch of other cool stuff. He also mentions Georges Perec (French author probably most famous for writing a novel without the letter e) and how constraints help in making music and how R Plus Seven was a more detail/process oriented (as opposed to concept oriented) album than his previous stuff. I don't really know any more about Perec or the Oulipo group than what's on wikipedia, but it does mention that one of the restraints for writing they came up with was called S+7 or N+7, where they would replace every noun in a piece of writing with the seventh word after it in a dictionary. I guess that's probably where the album title came from?
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Koholint posted:Here's another great interview with Lopatin where he talks about the new album, talking about music without having formal music theory education, representing space and time in music, music as [representing] physical objects, and a bunch of other cool stuff. He also mentions Georges Perec (French author probably most famous for writing a novel without the letter e) and how constraints help in making music and how R Plus Seven was a more detail/process oriented (as opposed to concept oriented) album than his previous stuff. I don't really know any more about Perec or the Oulipo group than what's on wikipedia, but it does mention that one of the restraints for writing they came up with was called S+7 or N+7, where they would replace every noun in a piece of writing with the seventh word after it in a dictionary. I guess that's probably where the album title came from?  These contributions are why this is the best thread in NMD, thankyou. Great interview o.m. 94 fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Sep 27, 2013 |
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Oneohtrix's music videos are some of the best I've ever seen. And that new one is probably the king of them. Well, maybe. Problem Areas is oddly mesmerizing, and it gave me a whole bunch of new desktop backgrounds. But this one has a furry drowning in quicksand, hrm.
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Pretty weird to hear Lopatin likes Minaj. I mean, her music does signify weirdness, but it's actually some of the most digestible/bubblegum music ever made?
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(x-post from a/d/n) Shots fired over the Oneohtrix Video: Some dude on Tumblr posted:I’m reblogging this because I want as many people as possible to be aware this happened. fmtownsmarty has been doing what he does for years — finding games that most people don’t give a second thought, playing through them despite of obscure outdated technology and language barriers, and presenting them in an original way, with intelligence, integrity and humour[...] fmtownsmarty, the dude who made the gifs posted:For the past few days I’ve been grappling with how to best address/deal with this, and other than a few passive-aggressive tweets sent to Jon Rafman (i now have a twitter account as a result of this but I don’t get how i’m supposed be using it.) I really haven’t done much of anything.[...]Needless to say, I feel WEIRD and SAD and loving TERRIBLE
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Spoke to James Ferraro last night at an Actress show. Unfortunately, there is no recording of his Primavera Sound set other than the WFMU recording on youtube. Also, the 100% eco ♲ detergent tracks are B-sides from FSV, so don't expect another release in that direction anytime soon.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:(x-post from a/d/n) The thing is, the obscurity of the images is not really the impressive part of the video.
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Mikhail Gorbachev posted:Spoke to James Ferraro last night at an Actress show. Unfortunately, there is no recording of his Primavera Sound set other than the WFMU recording on youtube. Also, the 100% eco ♲ detergent tracks are B-sides from FSV, so don't expect another release in that direction anytime soon. Cool! His current trip I'm kind of half-and-half about atm; BEBETUNES was weak, SILICA GEL is an amazing, amazing album, Sushi was good (wish he had put Handsome on that record though!!) and Cold was very weak. But like we all say, HELL NYC could be something. I was reading he doesn't want to abandon this sound he's on any time soon but the eco stuff like the Primavera and those other rare tracks have so much potential, kinda sucks to not get it on format. Maybe that ship has sailed anyway with the rise and fall of "that" genre
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oiseaux morts 1994 posted:Definitely an extrapolation of Replica, and this time less murky infinite past-future mirror regress and more artifice and hyperreality. I agree totally with the point about the "flawed reflections" of reality, and how, to compensate the subjects of the video try to make their abstractions flesh because it's exactly what's happening in the album with the General MIDI instrumentation, which are crude attempts to model a real instrument but without the flaws and inconveniences of that real instrument. The trade-off being that you have this hyperreal abstraction that, much like our realdoll anime lady, lacks any kind of soul or character. Listen to it enough times and you'll notice how interesting and weird the timbre of these "fake" instruments really are. That was sort of my interpretation. I also thought it touched on how people become desensitized to normal stimuli and need to search out further extremes to get off. At some point, when you become unable to mirror your dream world in real life, you've trapped yourself "in a maze of your own invention". The decrepit state of the rooms just mirrors these peoples' abandonment of reality. If you go down the rabbit hole, you're not coming back  Someone on /mu/ mentioned another interpretation that I thought might hold some merit. quote:In a way, I think its perhaps a warning about the direction our culture is going. If you've ever heard about John Calhoun's Mouse Utopia project, it shows this exact trend in both mice and rat population in response to population increase.
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Lord Krangdar posted:The thing is, the obscurity of the images is not really the impressive part of the video. Yeah, I don't really buy the backlash or whatever. Sure it was sort of lovely not to give an acknowledgement to the dude who curates those images (and they are really cool, I'd like to use some of them in my own pieces), but it's the construction of a pseudo-narrative and the juxtaposition of images that creates something new, exciting, and horrifying.
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He did actually give credit to all sources on the Vimeo video description, before it was deleted.
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회사AUTO has been pretty busy - he's put out an EP a few weeks ago and is already preparing his next album (full disclosure: I'm a friend of his and have heard an early version of it and it's great). This track from that EP he put out sticks out to me mainly because it's pretty great. Great great great. I can't stop saying great. I figure I'll link this here cause I saw him mentioned a few times early on in the thread, but there hasn't been much discussion of him in a while. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MbOE6cFXQ8 It's great. (Great.) The EP itself is kind of a concept album about the ice cream shop he works at. I linked this thread to him but he can't see it because he's behind the paywall Oh well.
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Hugmonster VIII posted:회사AUTO has been pretty busy - he's put out an EP a few weeks ago and is already preparing his next album (full disclosure: I'm a friend of his and have heard an early version of it and it's great). This track from that EP he put out sticks out to me mainly because it's pretty great. Great great great. I can't stop saying great. I figure I'll link this here cause I saw him mentioned a few times early on in the thread, but there hasn't been much discussion of him in a while. I don't know. The track is fine, but I don't get the same didactic rush I do from OPN/Jimmy Ferraro. I think this guy is doing something fundamentally different (and less interesting) than what the other bros are.
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Adam Harper put out an article on OPN's new video. He says the video's "policing sexuality and computer use" and there's a case to be made for that, but I think he's making the same mistake he made in that first vaporwave article - he's assuming this video's not completely sincere. He's assuming this is an attack on alternative sexuality and digital culture, but this isn't exploitation - it's mysticism. This is a Gnostic rejection of the body in favour of the spirit, a rejection of the human form. "One group of Gnostics maintained that since the body is evil, inherently evil, irrecoverably evil, the body should be repudiated. The body is disgusting and therefore should be disregarded, denounced. Another group of Gnostics argued that since the body is evil, inherently evil, irrecoverably evil, the body might as well be indulged. “Anything goes” where the body is concerned, since the body can’t be improved in any case. The Gnostic heresy gave rise to two anti-Hebraic attitudes to the body: harsh asceticism and its opposite, profligate indulgence."
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I'm okay with the video being an attack on "digital culture". I'm also okay with the images being taken from some rando's tumblr. This is art, dad.
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About 3 mins or so in. The music is very telling, too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmMyx2_4STg
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oiseaux morts 1994 posted:About 3 mins or so in. The music is very telling, too Oh word, I could only find excerpts of this. Pretty awesome.
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Here's a couple of Usenet posts that could basically be Ferraro concept albums: @wwwtxt 35m THE FUTURE: urban sprawl, ‘no future’, chemical weapons, nuclear radiation threat, corporate bartering of humankind, cheap nose jobs. ☯89OCT @wwwtxt 32m All black. Mirrorshades. Ominous. ☯88FEB
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Bigup DJ posted:"One group of Gnostics maintained that since the body is evil, inherently evil, irrecoverably evil, the body should be repudiated. The body is disgusting and therefore should be disregarded, denounced. Another group of Gnostics argued that since the body is evil, inherently evil, irrecoverably evil, the body might as well be indulged. “Anything goes” where the body is concerned, since the body can’t be improved in any case. The Gnostic heresy gave rise to two anti-Hebraic attitudes to the body: harsh asceticism and its opposite, profligate indulgence." if you apply this to the OPN video then maybe there's a bit of both attitudes in there? i mean, you have these people ignoring or neglecting their physical form to pursue their fantasies as anime people or fursonas or whatever else, disregarding their bodies in favor of something more. but the ability to do that and still live in relative comfort, like accessing the internet and staying well-fed, that's somewhat of a luxury isn't it? ascetic and indulgent at the same time.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/1nzjqm/im_daniel_lopatin_pka_oneohtrix_point_never_ama/quote:'generic' is an idea about presets that is mostly cultural. its a problematic differentiator because it presupposes that there is a 'real'. when i remove the difference between real and generic i can approach music production in a materials-oriented way, manipulating the affects themselves, instead of being used by them, to reinforce their stereotypes, histories, etc. this doesn't disqualify 'real' sounds, in fact it gives them a chance to morph which is crucial for me. its about flattening all those differences. midi is just a way to deal w/ digital events in time, so its kind of interesting that its thought of as a 'texture'. i actually love that. in reviews also i notice a lot of references to plastic-sounding things, but little conversation about plasticity, which is what its all about for me
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