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Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



quote:

The result of all this haggling, taken together, has been just the sort of balanced approach, mixing spending cuts and tax increases, that most experts advise

citation needed

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Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
So who's the Billy Kristol of Canadian punditry? Coyne is correct occasionally, Kristol has this ability to be earnestly wrong about everything.

And no, Eric Grenier doesn't count. :colbert:

Dreylad fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Oct 1, 2013

Kafka Esq.
Jan 1, 2005

"If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)
Conrad Black.

bub spank
Feb 1, 2005

the THRILL

Kafka Esq. posted:

Conrad Black.

He's totally right in his criticisms of the prison industry though, probably because it's the only time in his life he's had the silver spoon taken out of his mouth.

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



eXXon posted:

citation needed

How many times since the Reagan days has the tax rate actually increased?

Kafka Esq.
Jan 1, 2005

"If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW
I wish the man on the left was as fat as the man on the right. Then he would be an Orson Welles lookalike.

A TOUCH OF SOCIALIST EVIL

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

burf posted:

He's totally right in his criticisms of the prison industry though, probably because it's the only time in his life he's had the silver spoon taken out of his mouth.

I usually hear Black complaining about "out of control prosecutors" in America rather than the "prison industry". He is specifically pissed off about America's somewhat better record in prosecuting corporate fraud (as depressing as this is yes, America has a better record on that count than Canada) but I've literally never heard him complain about the conduct of the police or the war on drugs or the militarization of the police or the emphasis on punishment rather than rehabilitation.

His complaint about the US criminal justice system is literally just that it convicted him, I'm not sure he has any more principled objection than that.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

burf posted:

He's totally right in his criticisms of the prison industry though, probably because it's the only time in his life he's had the silver spoon taken out of his mouth.

Indeed, to echo what Helsing said, the American justice system has some huge problems, but none of them are what Black is complaining about.

JayMax
Jun 14, 2007

Hard-nosed gentleman
Some Femen protesters just interrupted the question period in the National Assembly with anti-crucifix slogans.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
We will lay down our lives for Muad'Dib!

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

At first I thought femen was kinda cool, then I found out it's run by a dude who hand picks only hot white women to publicly protest and that they're pretty fuckin' racist too.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Baronjutter posted:

At first I thought femen was kinda cool, then I found out it's run by a dude who hand picks only hot white women to publicly protest and that they're pretty fuckin' racist too.

I, uh, should have probably read about them before doing a Google Image search at work...

swagger like us
Oct 27, 2005

Don't mind me. We must protect rapists and misogynists from harm. If they're innocent they must not be named. Surely they'll never harm their sleeping, female patients. Watch me defend this in great detail. I am not a mens rights activist either.
Has anyone heard of this "Restore our Anthem" group? Saw it on FB. Something about changing "In all thy sons" to "In all of us" in the National anthem.

Restoreouranthem.ca is the website. I watched the video but it didn't really convince me that the changes warrant that much merit. But I'm also a man so, I can't say for sure since it's not really about me.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I think the idea behind that movement is that the original lyrics were, "thou dost in us command," instead of "in all our sons' command," or at least that's what I read. I don't think it's a major issue either way, so when in doubt, we should probably aim for more inclusive language. I can't say I really "support" the change, I just don't give a poo poo either way. I'm mildly in favour of the change, only because "we want to make the language gender-neutral" seems like a better argument than "our anthem should never change from its current version, which was the result of a change from the original version."

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Gender neutral that poo poo and get rid of god.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
I'm female and I don't care about the line. I'd personally rather they get rid of the god bit.

But I also wouldn't care if they did change it.

Paper Jam Dipper
Jul 14, 2007

by XyloJW

Baronjutter posted:

Gender neutral that poo poo and get rid of god.

gently caress yes. Happy someone else said it first.

And make the half English/half French version the ONLY version you're supposed to use to enforce bilingualism. Maybe then kids will be more comfortable learning French.

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Baronjutter posted:

Gender neutral that poo poo and get rid of god.

Yes, and once you're done with that, get rid of the anthem entirely because national anthems are dumb.

nihil morari
Sep 24, 2011

by Ralp

eXXon posted:

Yes, and once you're done with that, get rid of the anthem entirely because national anthems are dumb.

I'm glad someone else realizes this.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
What am I going to sing drunk then?

Health Services
Feb 27, 2009

Baloogan posted:

What am I going to sing drunk then?

Stan Rogers.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Baronjutter posted:

Gender neutral that poo poo and get rid of god.

Not going to happen as long as we've got God at the start of the Charter.

Maybe in another ten years.

Squibbles
Aug 24, 2000

Mwaha ha HA ha!

Make Moxy Fruvous - Drinking Song the new national anthem and sing that.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
THE HATE CRIME DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Baloogan posted:

What am I going to sing drunk then?

Ah for one more time,
I would take the Northwest Passaaaaage
To find the hand of Franklin reaching t'wards the Beaufort Sea

Tracing one more line
Through a Land so Wild and Saaaavaage!
To take the Northwest Passage to the Sea

EDIT:
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
of the big lake they called "Gitche Gumee."
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
when the skies of November turn gloomy.
With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more
than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty,
that good ship and true was a bone to be chewed
when the "Gales of November" came early.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I don't think I've sung or heard the anthem in a good 13+ years. Don't even remember the lyrics. Where do you even encounter it outside of elementary school assemblies and maybe on some remembrance day thing in high-school? gently caress anthems, gently caress flags, gently caress patriotism.

I've maybe heard the tune of the anthem in the distance during some Canada day poo poo but the actual lyrics? Actually 13 years since I've been exposed to them.

Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Oct 1, 2013

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

This is the only correct answer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0CvSIhF_tA&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Ds0CvSIhF_tA

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Baronjutter posted:

I don't think I've sung or heard the anthem in a good 13+ years. Don't even remember the lyrics. Where do you even encounter it outside of elementary school assemblies and maybe on some remembrance day thing in high-school? gently caress anthems, gently caress flags, gently caress patriotism.

I've maybe heard the tune of the anthem in the distance during some Canada day poo poo but the actual lyrics? Actually 13 years since I've been exposed to them.

Someone aint watching any hockey :colbert:

Alctel
Jan 16, 2004

I love snails


Or any sports.

I went to a roller derby last week and they sung the anthem there

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 7 days!)

The Rodeo Song

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



A good anthem would be some heavy metal band doing their thing and screaming BEAVERS MAPLE SYRUP HOCKEY TOONIE CANADA AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CANADA TRAILER PARK BOYS CANADAAAAAAAA.

cougar cub
Jun 28, 2004

Baloogan posted:

What am I going to sing drunk then?

http://youtu.be/8G_L9tXEwmc?t=40s

Might just be an Alberta thing though...

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



eXXon posted:

A good anthem would be some heavy metal band doing their thing and screaming BEAVERS MAPLE SYRUP HOCKEY TOONIE CANADA AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CANADA TRAILER PARK BOYS CANADAAAAAAAA.

This should definitely be our anthem.

nihil morari
Sep 24, 2011

by Ralp
"It's oil, It's wheat, It's soil, It's meat

It's beef! "

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
Outside of high school I've only sung the national anthem drunk. Also jeez you guys y'all need more national pride. This is a drat good country and its worth singing for it.

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.


The Idiot would make a surprisingly good Alberta anthem really.

bunnyofdoom posted:

Ah for one more time,
I would take the Northwest Passaaaaage
To find the hand of Franklin reaching t'wards the Beaufort Sea

Tracing one more line
Through a Land so Wild and Saaaavaage!
To take the Northwest Passage to the Sea

Have definitely sung this while drunk and stealing couches away from one university building to another in the middle of the night.

Though I'd honestly rather sing The Nancy, if only more people knew it. It's got a much better jingoistic ring to it. Or Athens Queen. That's a drinking song right there.

PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Oct 1, 2013

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
At the Olympics in Vancouver when it became obvious the men's curling team were going to win gold the whole stadium basically impromptu sang the anthem, it was pretty awesome.

nihil morari
Sep 24, 2011

by Ralp

Baloogan posted:

Outside of high school I've only sung the national anthem drunk. Also jeez you guys y'all need more national pride. This is a drat good country and its worth singing for it.

I just don't buy into national pride. Yeah it's a good country and all, but there isn't anything special about it. There's a lot of work to do and I am not going to enthusiastically praise this country because it is alright relative to most other western nations. Maybe when we begin setting a real example and lead progress in great technology that saves humanity or something, then I might (might) be willing to sing a song. But still probably not because national anthems are lame, regardless.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
Hey pal I like Canada alot.

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Huge Liability
Mar 2, 2010
We've had a fine national anthem replacement for forty years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXyXDuI9p5U

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