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Orv
May 4, 2011
This might qualify me for whiny baby status, but I might end up skipping BF4 because it's still possible for a full squad to pop out of someones rear end while you're shooting them. That's still lovely.

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TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King
squad solidarity

squalidarity

Lord Yod
Jul 22, 2009


This game gets really weird when everyone else has the skyscraper fall down but you don't.

Aeka 2.0
Nov 16, 2000

:ohdear: Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.




Dinosaur Gum
I cant hear any VOIP but people can hear me. Is there a fix?

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


Orv posted:

This might qualify me for whiny baby status, but I might end up skipping BF4 because it's still possible for a full squad to pop out of someones rear end while you're shooting them. That's still lovely.

Make squad spawning prevention a mechanic of suppression. Boom, problem solved.

Gazaar
Mar 23, 2005

.txt

unpurposed posted:

So I'm watching some streams, and this game looks a lot faster than BF3. How does it compare to BC2, by the way? I didn't really enjoy BF3 but still play BC2 to this day.

It's definitely a tighter faster shooter like BBC2 our lorde and saviour was. This is, at least, when you can run it smoothly everything feels really good.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Republicans posted:

Make squad spawning prevention a mechanic of suppression. Boom, problem solved.

I don't know why they haven't! And it seems they won't, which means, since I'm absolutely terrible, that while I can deal with one dude or sometimes two, the other three guys that show up really gently caress me over.

unpurposed
Apr 22, 2008
:dukedog:

Fun Shoe

Gazaar posted:

It's definitely a tighter faster shooter like BBC2 our lorde and saviour was. This is, at least, when you can run it smoothly everything feels really good.

Amen

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

Wait can you or can you not iron sight every sniper rifle in the game? This is a deal breaker for me.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Are the worm people back from the BF3 beta? This is important.

Lord Yod
Jul 22, 2009


Pryor on Fire posted:

Wait can you or can you not iron sight every sniper rifle in the game? This is a deal breaker for me.

Turns out I was wrong, the starter rifle has variable zoom attachment that has to be removed before you can remove the base rifle scope.

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.
This i'm enjoying so far.
- Good VOIP service in game
- The water looks amazing
- I love the transition from normal speed to sprinting
- The new boats are great
- How ammo is now handled for vehicles

I stilll have to get my head around some other things, but overall a nice improvement over BF3 so far.

Target Practice
Aug 20, 2004

Shit.
If I could use one word to describe how BF4 differs from 3, I would have to use "thumpier".

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

Remember when BC2 first came out and everyone hated it and thought it was the worst BF game ever and :dice: just took to copying Calling Duties and 2142 was the best BF game ever made?

And then when 2142 came out everyone hated it and thought it was just a half-rear end piece of crap anyone could have made with the BF2 mod tools but :dice: had the audacity to sell it for $50 anyway and BF2 was the best BF game ever made?

Or when BF2 came out and everyone hated it and said that it was a pile of poo poo compared to the vastly superior Desert Combat so :dice: should just stand aside and let modders do all their work for them and 1942 was the best BF game ever made?




I'm quite shocked that the thread has an overall positive reaction to this game. It's kinda unreal.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

DoctorStrangelove posted:

Remember when BF2 came out and everyone hated it and said that it was a pile of poo poo compared to the vastly superior Desert Combat
yes

fivegears4reverse
Apr 4, 2007

by R. Guyovich

DoctorStrangelove posted:

I'm quite shocked that the thread has an overall positive reaction to this game. It's kinda unreal.

Give it time. We've already had someone freaking out about unfinished aspects of an unfinished game going through a Beta test where 99 percent of the people participating have nothing useful to say about actual bugs being encountered, and probably half those people are saying "BF3 WORKED GREAT ON MY MACHINE FROM THREE YEARS AGO, WHY DOES THIS BETA NOT WORK WELL ITS ALMOST LIKE THINGS ARE NOT FINISHED OR SOMETHING :dice: :dice: :dice:"

I'm always intrigued by Betas like this, because I have no idea how a developer could possibly glean anything useful from the players outside of whatever automated features are at work behind the scenes.

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

Aeka 2.0 posted:

keep getting bunkbusterB crashes

edit: updating PB works

Same here. I guess everyone is pummeling Even Balance's server--I'm getting blazing download speeds of 1 kb/s! :allears:

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

DoctorStrangelove posted:

I'm quite shocked that the thread has an overall positive reaction to this game. It's kinda unreal.

Give it another 72 hours.

SaucyLoggins
Jan 4, 2012

Panstallions For Life
drat. I played once this morning and now I can't get past the game loading. It loads up and then switches to the black screen that has loading in the upper right and sits for a couple minutes and then crashes.

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.

fivegears4reverse posted:

I'm always intrigued by Betas like this, because I have no idea how a developer could possibly glean anything useful from the players outside of whatever automated features are at work behind the scenes.

Yeah I think the player feedback is just to gauge just how lovely the community is, they'll be a suite of data collection tools that'd make NSA blush.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

fivegears4reverse posted:

Give it time. We've already had someone freaking out about unfinished aspects of an unfinished game going through a Beta test where 99 percent of the people participating have nothing useful to say about actual bugs being encountered, and probably half those people are saying "BF3 WORKED GREAT ON MY MACHINE FROM THREE YEARS AGO, WHY DOES THIS BETA NOT WORK WELL ITS ALMOST LIKE THINGS ARE NOT FINISHED OR SOMETHING :dice: :dice: :dice:"

I'm always intrigued by Betas like this, because I have no idea how a developer could possibly glean anything useful from the players outside of whatever automated features are at work behind the scenes.

Bugs I've noticed in my hour of playtime:

People see the c tower as still being up even though it's collapsed.
Ambient Occlusion destroying your framerate while not actually doing anything. (possible feature)
People being stuck in 1 health purgatory and have to rejoin the server.
Joining on a friend renders you unable to join squads once you get into game.
Leaving Battlelog open while in game sometimes causes your game to run like rear end (could be browser related).

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

Spanish Manlove posted:

Ambient Occlusion destroying your framerate while not actually doing anything. (possible feature)

That is a feature. It's how SSAO works in every game.

Hal_2005
Feb 23, 2007
Holy poo poo, I did not think this game would be anything more than a repackaging of BF3 & a cash grab. Totally wrong. Amazing physX, tighter netcode (way less lag even on european servers), better ambiance.

I see this game going places.

Tarranon
Oct 10, 2007

Diggity Dog

SaucyLoggins posted:

drat. I played once this morning and now I can't get past the game loading. It loads up and then switches to the black screen that has loading in the upper right and sits for a couple minutes and then crashes.

That's been happening to a lot of people, myself included. Solutions include either going into the direct x redist folder in your origin directory and moving all the zips to a new folder, installing windows updates, updating the drivers, and "waiting for the problem to fix itself"

I think that last one did it for me? It just seems really touch and go.

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

Well Dice has never employed a single tester or QA employee so this feedback is very useful. I love the "fix framerate by setting process to low priority" bug. Awesome!

I know I'm not the first to complain about this but yeah just seems like Battlefield 3.5 map pack. I loved loved loved and played 200 hours of BF3 but am kind of burnt out on it and am not interested in paying $60 for more of that. Maybe when I can get that and BF4 premium for $10-20.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



You can't get BF3 and premium for that much now, so I guess you're just skipping this game entirely.

Ravenfood
Nov 4, 2011

DoctorStrangelove posted:

Remember when BC2 first came out and everyone hated it and thought it was the worst BF game ever and :dice: just took to copying Calling Duties and 2142 was the best BF game ever made?

And then when 2142 came out everyone hated it and thought it was just a half-rear end piece of crap anyone could have made with the BF2 mod tools but :dice: had the audacity to sell it for $50 anyway and BF2 was the best BF game ever made?
This is still true.

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

Manatee Cannon posted:

You can't get BF3 and premium for that much now, so I guess you're just skipping this game entirely.

There was some sale a month or two ago where you could get BF3 and Premium for $10. If that happens in a year or two from now I'd be interested, but otherwise yeah I'm going to play other games.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

DoctorStrangelove posted:

That is a feature. It's how SSAO works in every game.
I have a friend who says he cannot play games without ambient occlusion because the effect is so noticeable. I only notice my FPS jump 50%. I might have noticed it in the Arkham City timedemo but definitely not in BF3.

Soarer
Jan 14, 2012

I JUST CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S PONY AVATARS

~SMcD
Well my trip report.

PC specs are:
3.4GHz 965 AMD
12GB Ram
Radeon HD7870
Win7

Video settings:


Game runs 30-40 FPS.
Ran pretty terribly until I updated to the beta drivers.
The only issues I have had is the game freezing at the blurry death screen 3 times.
My CPU does show all of the cores maxing or near maxing for most of the game, so guess that's where my bottleneck is.

-Dethstryk-
Oct 20, 2000
I tried searching the thread but couldn't find anything.

I got the email saying I could get into the beta, and apparently it's because I bought Medal of Honor on the PC. It isn't listed in "my games" after an Origin re-launch and I didn't see any kind of code to redeem. Am I missing something obvious?

Pryor on Fire
May 14, 2013

they don't know all alien abduction experiences can be explained by people thinking saving private ryan was a documentary

I love how 30fps is considered good enough nowadays. Especially since 30 does not mean 30 but seesaws between 10 and 60. I wish people would just report their minimum frame rate, because that's the only thing that matters.

IronDoge
Nov 6, 2008

Camping on the roof of Delta has got to be the most annoying loving thing. Especially when your chopper keeps getting spawn killed by the other team and you have no way to drop in on there.

Someguy
Jul 15, 2001

by Lowtax
Air vehicles feel awful. Auto hover fucks with your aim, they don't seem to have any inertia, and move with comical speed. Your cursor is STILL the same color as the skybox. Flares take 25 seconds to recharge, while stingers take less then 2 seconds. Can't wait for another 2 years of bad back and forth vehicle balance from the people who don't seem to want to learn from their mistakes, just lol.

Just make the game infantry only and be done with it Dice, you know you want to.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

Pryor on Fire posted:

There was some sale a month or two ago where you could get BF3 and Premium for $10. If that happens in a year or two from now I'd be interested, but otherwise yeah I'm going to play other games.
You're going to wait until the game is almost ready to be replaced before you buy it? This isn't exactly TF2 in the eyes of the players or publisher.

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf

Aeka 2.0 posted:

keep getting bunkbusterB crashes

edit: updating PB works
It is nice to see that punkbuster is still going strong as the worst piece of poo poo software ever created. I get the same crash, but I can't fix it because Even Balance's servers are down. So I guess I'm not playing BF4 tonight.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Can't get the game to finish loading a level, but on the plus side, it no longer kills explorer.exe the way BF3 would!

Grey Fox V2
Nov 14, 2008

Augmented Balls of Titanium!

DoctorStrangelove posted:

Remember when BC2 first came out and everyone hated it and thought it was the worst BF game ever and :dice: just took to copying Calling Duties and 2142 was the best BF game ever made?

And then when 2142 came out everyone hated it and thought it was just a half-rear end piece of crap anyone could have made with the BF2 mod tools but :dice: had the audacity to sell it for $50 anyway and BF2 was the best BF game ever made?

Or when BF2 came out and everyone hated it and said that it was a pile of poo poo compared to the vastly superior Desert Combat so :dice: should just stand aside and let modders do all their work for them and 1942 was the best BF game ever made?




I'm quite shocked that the thread has an overall positive reaction to this game. It's kinda unreal.
I recall the BF3 beta being much the same way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1m1lflkhxU

DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

-Dethstryk- posted:

I tried searching the thread but couldn't find anything.

I got the email saying I could get into the beta, and apparently it's because I bought Medal of Honor on the PC. It isn't listed in "my games" after an Origin re-launch and I didn't see any kind of code to redeem. Am I missing something obvious?

Is it set to "Show: All games?" If not then click on the button that says show and you'll get a dropping dialog, from there click on "all games." Otherwise I have no idea.

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Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Orv posted:

I don't know why they haven't! And it seems they won't, which means, since I'm absolutely terrible, that while I can deal with one dude or sometimes two, the other three guys that show up really gently caress me over.

Honestly this is my #1 gripe about Battlefield 3, especially because the guys who just spawned will often block your shots on the guy you're trying to kill, they can't be killed or knifed until you wait out the spawn protection, and you're now going to basically run out of ammo and die :(

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