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Captain Oblivious posted:The sewers of Kirkwall were literally built to channel the blood of thousands and, over time, hundreds of thosuands of slaves to fuel ungodly experiments deep beneath the City. Too bad we don't get to do anything with that info in game instead of engaging in the futility of trying to clean up the constant mistakes of Kirkwall's many fanatics.
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Geostomp posted:Too bad we don't get to do anything with that info in game instead of engaging in the futility of trying to clean up the constant mistakes of Kirkwall's many fanatics. Partly. You also take down a unique pride demon, Hybris, that managed to cross the veil who has been soaking up the various egos of every big shot merchant, guard captain, Viscount, etc Kirkwall has ever had. It's one of the tougher boss fights on par with Xebenkeck and the Nexus Golem room.
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Oct 2, 2013 22:51
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Geostomp posted:Too bad we don't get to do anything with that info in game instead of engaging in the futility of trying to clean up the constant mistakes of Kirkwall's many fanatics. I'm pretty sure the big demon you fight after you fight the 3 (or was it 2?) ghost demon things is what is lurking under kirkwall. I think the writers realized it was a weak explanation which is why they brought up the corrupting presence of the not-architect in the DLC. Edit: It wouldn't have been a weak explanation if they had more action in the sewers (possibly not identical to all of the other sewers) regarding that piece of lore. http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/The_Band_of_Three I couldn't remember the names, but I'm guessing most other people won't either. If you do need the names to remember who you fought, they're at the end of the article I linked. Or you might not remember if you couldn't find all of the Journal Pages.
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Oct 2, 2013 22:57
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COOKIEMONSTER posted:Calling it now: I dont really ever want to return to Kirkwall, but I think the one exception would be to level it to the loving ground.
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Oct 2, 2013 23:51
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HenessyHero posted:Partly. You also take down a unique pride demon, Hybris, that managed to cross the veil who has been soaking up the various egos of every big shot merchant, guard captain, Viscount, etc Kirkwall has ever had. It's one of the tougher boss fights on par with Xebenkeck and the Nexus Golem room. I think one reason people complained about the length of DA2 is some of the quests are surprisingly well-hidden. I don't think I got Xebenkeck until my second go-around, or Hybris until my third or forth. I always got the one where you meet your cousin, though, and shittons of people missed that one.
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Oct 3, 2013 00:50
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Pick posted:I think one reason people complained about the length of DA2 is some of the quests are surprisingly well-hidden. I don't think I got Xebenkeck until my second go-around, or Hybris until my third or forth. You have a cousin?
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Oct 3, 2013 01:01
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Doublehex posted:You have a cousin? I think that's the one where you help Gamlen recover his "greatest treasure." It's triggered by some hammer in his house and I don't think you have any reason to ever return there.
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Oct 3, 2013 01:03
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Doublehex posted:You have a cousin? Her name is Charade and she's Gamlen's daughter. It's a substantial quest by Act 3 standards. In a weird twist, trying to reunite them gets a big approval boost from Fenris, but no one else I've brought with me  .
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Oct 3, 2013 01:04
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Pick posted:Her name is Charade and she's Gamlen's daughter. It's a substantial quest by Act 3 standards. I don't remember this.....does she want to go bowling?
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Oct 3, 2013 01:09
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kingcom posted:I don't remember this.....does she want to go bowling? She's an archer and a contender with Orana for worst eyeshadow.
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Oct 3, 2013 01:16
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I think she's also the only family member whose appearance doesn't change no matter what your Hawke looks like.
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Oct 3, 2013 01:19
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I hope that if there's an Aveline cameo they also bring back Donnic 'Crazy Eyebrows' Hendyr. That guy was the best. EDIT: 
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Oct 3, 2013 01:19
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TheWorldIsSquare posted:I hope that if there's an Aveline cameo they also bring back Donnic 'Crazy Eyebrows' Hendyr. That guy was the best. I think Donnic looks like Starburns.
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Oct 3, 2013 01:25
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Pick posted:I think Donnic looks like Starburns. OH poo poo. Now I can never look at Crazybrows in the same way again. Also I looked up Hawk's Cousin and that hair  Yeah I'm pretty sure I never got that quest, though I did kinda just blaze through the last Act to finish that game as quickly as possible. kingcom fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Oct 3, 2013 |
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Oct 3, 2013 01:39
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Pick posted:I think one reason people complained about the length of DA2 is some of the quests are surprisingly well-hidden. I don't think I got Xebenkeck until my second go-around, or Hybris until my third or forth. I didn't find the Nexus Golem until my second runthrough and that was a terrible surprise  , though it did foreshadow DAI and bit of its plot, presumably, if they're still going with that angle anyway.kingcom posted:Yeah I'm pretty sure I never got that quest, though I did kinda just blaze through the last Act to finish that game as quickly as possible. You automatically get a quest to check up on Gamlen at some point in Act 3 but the quest doesn't really initiate until you read a note he leaves on his desk. I think Sebastien also gets a slight approval bonus depending on how the quest plays out. VVVV You probably visited Gamlen to complete one quest, but never initated the next by looking at the letter on the table. HenessyHero fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Oct 3, 2013 |
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Oct 3, 2013 02:34
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HenessyHero posted:I didn't find the Nexus Golem until my second runthrough and that was a terrible surprise I finished that game with an empty questlog so if I automatically got it I assumed I did it and it was such a non-event I don't remember?
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Oct 3, 2013 02:43
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kingcom posted:I finished that game with an empty questlog so if I automatically got it I assumed I did it and it was such a non-event I don't remember? It's a pretty considerable watchamacallit... scavenger-hunt style quest. You'd have to be clever to put together the clues if your companions didn't already know the answers.
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Oct 3, 2013 06:00
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Pick posted:It's a pretty considerable watchamacallit... scavenger-hunt style quest. I don't know. I remember the intricate amount of crap you needed to do to for those goddamn mines but I just dont remember performing a scavenger quest for your cousin or anything in Act 3 for him. Was this a base game quest? I didn't play with any of the expansions or DLC etc so I know I didn't do a bunch of things in the game. I explore pretty thoroughly in every area and dont leave it until I've talked to everyone possible and there apparently a bunch a stuff I missed (or blacking it out)? Pick do a lets play of DA2 before DA3 comes up. (yes I know theres one already going on) EDIT: Dont actually do this im just confused I missed a bunch of Act 3 stuff when I felt confident I had cleared the map. kingcom fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Oct 3, 2013 |
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Oct 3, 2013 06:17
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The cousin quest involved, like... finding your uncle's croquet mallet or some poo poo, right? And somehow that related to some treasure he once hunted, which your cousin pretended to find to lure him out. It was a weird quest.
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Oct 3, 2013 06:27
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Bored posted:I'm pretty sure the big demon you fight after you fight the 3 (or was it 2?) ghost demon things is what is lurking under kirkwall. Xebenkeck the Undying. It, along with Gaxkang the Unbound from DA:O and two other demons named The Formless One and Imshael that we haven't seen yet were the ones that originally taught humans blood magic. It's definitely a good candidate for having a blood magic summoning array the size of a city dedicated to it. Stroth fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Oct 3, 2013 |
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Oct 3, 2013 07:10
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The Crotch posted:The cousin quest involved, like... finding your uncle's croquet mallet or some poo poo, right? And somehow that related to some treasure he once hunted, which your cousin pretended to find to lure him out. Look at note Talk to Gamlen Go to Darktown (as per the note) Loot note Talk to Gamlen again Investigate wallop mallet Investigate tree, receive new note Go to the fish processing area Loot note again! Go to cave Meet Charade! Talk to Gamlen again kingcom posted:Pick do a lets play of DA2 before DA3 comes up. (yes I know theres one already going on) This thread gives me enough grief! Pick fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Oct 3, 2013 |
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Oct 3, 2013 07:14
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Stroth posted:Xebenkeck the Undying. It, along with Gaxkang the Unbound from DA:O and two other demons named The Formless One and Imshael that we haven't seen yet were the ones that originally taught humans blood magic. Doesn't the Legacy DLC explicitly say that Dumat the Old God taught the Tevinters blood magic?
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Oct 3, 2013 07:15
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Pick posted:Look at note Wait I remember investigating a tree that took me to a fishery....but nothing else...
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pentyne posted:Doesn't the Legacy DLC explicitly say that Dumat the Old God taught the Tevinters blood magic? Yeah, it does. It's also implied that the Elves did it and that's why they all used to be immortal. The lore is rather contradictory on that point. I favor the theory that Gaxkang and co. did it, since they are demons, but it could be one of the other options.
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Stroth posted:Yeah, it does. It's also implied that the Elves did it and that's why they all used to be immortal. The lore is rather contradictory on that point. I favor the theory that Gaxkang and co. did it, since they are demons, but it could be one of the other options. What implied the Elves immortality was blood magic? The only major thing I remember was that they didn't age until humans settled near them. edit: Found it "However, in May 2013 Mary Kirby stated that city and Dalish elves have the same life expectancy, and that blood magic was the only way elves like Zathrian had "reclaimed" immortality" Although that is literally just a post on the BSN. The writers should not being offering lore detail in response to random peoples' questions. pentyne fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Oct 3, 2013 |
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pentyne posted:What implied the Elves immortality was blood magic? The only major thing I remember was that they didn't age until humans settled near them. The Imperial Chantry. And, to be fair, they probably know more about blood magic than anyone else.
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Stroth posted:The Imperial Chantry. And, to be fair, they probably know more about blood magic than anyone else. More than the Tevinter Imperium?
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kingcom posted:More than the Tevinter Imperium? The Imperial Chantry. Not the Chantry of Andraste. Stroth fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Oct 3, 2013 |
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Oct 3, 2013 07:51
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Stroth posted:The Imperial Chantry. Not the Chantry of Andraste. Ohhhhhh that makes more sense.
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pentyne posted:What implied the Elves immortality was blood magic? The only major thing I remember was that they didn't age until humans settled near them. "Reclaimed" as in, Zathrian had become immortal by using blood magic, not that the ancient Elven immortality was from blood magic.
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Okay, new question time: What spec would you like to see return for DA:I? I loved the ranger spec, even though it felt like cheating and my bear would get stuck in doorways. I also loved the mage creation spec with the BEE spell. I can't stop talking about that swarm spell...I just love it so much.
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I was a huge fan of the Fade Guardian spec, even if its defining ability did drain stamina constantly ON TOP OF reserving a significant portion of stamina. It gave you bonus to everything and converted your damage to Spirit, which ignored armor. As a Guardian/Berserker/Fade Guardian, my 2H warrior was pretty boss. I just had to time my stances carefully.
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Leelee posted:Okay, new question time: I like the bee spell because it seems practical outside of combat. I like to think that my mage character can do more than just fight. Maybe light the fireplace, maybe chill some groceries, maybe pollinate.
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Oct 3, 2013 16:53
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Pick posted:I like the bee spell because it seems practical outside of combat. I like to think that my mage character can do more than just fight. Maybe light the fireplace, maybe chill some groceries, maybe pollinate. Bioware Social Network posted:What would Morrigan's honey taste like?
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DW spec for warriors, which I brought up a few pages back. With a nice balance between the 2H warriors brute and the Rogues ninja. Bard was cool too, I almost always had a Bard/Ranger Liliana or Bard/Assassin Zevran.
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Can someone explain to me just how it is that BSN is so drat creepy. I mean, how did it reach that point? I swear to God, Fantasy CRPG's have some of the creepiest fanbases. Do a dA search for Neverwinter Nights and you get dozens of drawings of some girl's character in romantic situations with Bishop, a character who wasn't even romancable! It's like she is trying to accommodate her own shortcomings with a fantasty wank.
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If there's one thing I have to give DA2 over DA:O now that I'm playing the two side by side, it's that armor designs in DA2 have more personality or are simply less stupendously stupid and ugly than the typical DA:O piece. Heavy and Massive armor were the only pieces to really have much variety in DA:O and most of them were bland as gently caress or bizarrely overdesigned so they didn't even really fit together properly, clipping through themselves even in default postures and idle animations when they should "fit" best. The only DA:O armor I could stand wearing for any real length of time was the Heavy Chainmail set. Found a mod that imported some of the best armors from DA2 and its DLCs to DA:O and now I'm rocking the Stonehammer set (aka the best set) through Ferelden. Shame you couldn't really enjoy that armor variety and design that much because only one character could wear the drat things and 2/3s were for classes you weren't playing.
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Doublehex posted:Can someone explain to me just how it is that BSN is so drat creepy. I mean, how did it reach that point? Any place where people discuss video games a lot will go lunatic given enough time.
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Oct 3, 2013 18:23
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Pick posted:Any place where people discuss video games a lot will go lunatic given enough time. There's a fine line between the usual internet "lunatic" and "several thousand pages of Talimancers"
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01011001 posted:There's a fine line between the usual internet "lunatic" and "several thousand pages of Talimancers" There are boobs in the game and a considerable number of years in between releases where they not only need to talk about boobs, but talk about those boobs in a way that'll stand out and be memorable even among the saddest of sadmen.
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