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Sigma-X
Jun 17, 2005
We3 has a direct connection to whatever weepy bit in my brain is usually buried beneath 30 years of machismo. I got misty typing "Gud Dog" into google image search.

Here you go, it's not really a spoiler for the book. Those lasers are for sighting a gun, in case you thought they weren't.



e: have more



here's the plot to the book, go read it if you haven't. It's basically Homeward Bound 2: Judgment Day.


e: googling around the find those panels I found this comic that you all need to read. Here's a tease:



http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/2113348.html

Sigma-X fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Sep 28, 2013

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Or is it Sputnik
Aug 22, 2009

Oh, Ho-oh oh oh, oh whoa oh oh oh
I'll get 'em caught, show Oak what I've got

Choco1980 posted:

I'd say the fifth panel on the page I requested explains it all in elegance. Abel is NOT being killed by Cain on that page. "You musn't kill me! You don't love me! You d-don't even know me!!" Is pretty much Cain-and-Abel.jpg
Yeah, they have an incredibly messed up relationship that goes back to the House of Mystery/Secrets series through the 60's and 70's. Actually a lot of the characters in Sandman harken back to the horror-anthology comics DC put out, like House of Mystery/Secrets, Witching Hour, The Unexpected, Weird Mystery Tales and Secret House of Sinister Love (yes, really). Eve, Fashion Thing/Mad Mod Witch, Cain, Abel, Destiny, Three Witches started out there off the top of my head. Of course, Cain, Abel and Eve weren't THE Cain, Abel and Eve at the time - that came later, with Alan Moore. I'll try to post a scan of that later.

And here's some We3 #2 for you. This part works so well even without context.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Or is it Sputnik posted:

Yeah, they have an incredibly messed up relationship that goes back to the House of Mystery/Secrets series through the 60's and 70's. Actually a lot of the characters in Sandman harken back to the horror-anthology comics DC put out, like House of Mystery/Secrets, Witching Hour, The Unexpected, Weird Mystery Tales and Secret House of Sinister Love (yes, really). Eve, Fashion Thing/Mad Mod Witch, Cain, Abel, Destiny, Three Witches started out there off the top of my head. Of course, Cain, Abel and Eve weren't THE Cain, Abel and Eve at the time - that came later, with Alan Moore. I'll try to post a scan of that later.


Lucien was an anthology host too, but he's probably the most obscure of them. The Dreaming used Judge Gallows too, another one. DC had a LOT of anthology hosts. I'm half surprised Elvira never popped up in a call-back.

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011

Okay I was expecting to be depressed but honest-to-god lost my poo poo when I saw Rorschach at the end. It's the blackest of black comedy but still :lol:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

SALT CURES HAM posted:

Okay I was expecting to be depressed but honest-to-god lost my poo poo when I saw Rorschach at the end. It's the blackest of black comedy but still :lol:

I don't know who drew it, but here's the alternate ending :3:



Rorshcket :xd:

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

Jerusalem posted:

I don't know who drew it, but here's the alternate ending :3:



Rorshcket :xd:

Clearly, this was the Saturday Morning Watchmen version.

Supersonic Shine
Oct 13, 2012

SALT CURES HAM posted:

Okay I was expecting to be depressed but honest-to-god lost my poo poo when I saw Rorschach at the end. It's the blackest of black comedy but still :lol:
Man, I wish I had your sense of humor. The twist didn't reach Jurassic Bark levels for me, but it came drat close. :smith:

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011

Supersonic Shine posted:

Man, I wish I had your sense of humor. The twist didn't reach Jurassic Bark levels for me, but it came drat close. :smith:

I don't know, it's sorta like that one lovely movie where the twist in the last 5 minutes is that the entire movie took place on like September 10, 2001 and the male lead died in 9/11. Some twists are just too over-the-top and out of left field to not be hilarious.

Or is it Sputnik
Aug 22, 2009

Oh, Ho-oh oh oh, oh whoa oh oh oh
I'll get 'em caught, show Oak what I've got
There's been much talk of Cain and Abel lately and I promised to expand on their relationship. As anyone familiar with the characters know, Cain and Abel are brothers who live in the House of Mystery and House of Secrets, respectively. They were hosting the stories in the horror anthology comics eponymous with their respective houses' names. This is from a fill-in issue of Swamp Thing, one of two at the end of Alan Moore's first major storyarc, but I think they knocked it out of the park regardless.

Saga of the Swamp Thing #33: Abandoned Houses

The issue is from late 1984, and Crisis on Infinite Earths is on the Horizon. Abigail Cable has just gotten back from hell after being killed by her uncle, Anton Arcane. Abby dreams.



Abel's mention that "people don't drop by so much" is a nod to House of Secrets being cancelled in 1969, and Mystery in 1983. There are lots of clever things like this in the issue.
Abel then proceeds to tell her the story of Alex Olsen, the Swamp Thing, in an 8-page reprint of House of Secrets #92's original Swamp Thing story.



And that's it! Because Steve Bisette was running late with his artwork, Alan Moore established that Cain and Abel were the Cain and Abel, added a new dimension to their weird relationship and laid very important groundwork for the Sandman! But that's a story for another time.

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.

Or is it Sputnik posted:

There's been much talk of Cain and Abel lately and I promised to expand on their relationship. As anyone familiar with the characters know, Cain and Abel are brothers who live in the House of Mystery and House of Secrets, respectively. They were hosting the stories in the horror anthology comics eponymous with their respective houses' names. This is from a fill-in issue of Swamp Thing, one of two at the end of Alan Moore's first major storyarc, but I think they knocked it out of the park regardless.

And that's it! Because Steve Bisette was running late with his artwork, Alan Moore established that Cain and Abel were the Cain and Abel, added a new dimension to their weird relationship and laid very important groundwork for the Sandman! But that's a story for another time.

I read all of Sandman but never read Swamp Thing. It's cool seeing Moore's take on the characters and his love of wordplay. I didn't like Abel in Sandman because his stuttering got in the way of his speech until "Parliament of the Rooks."

I love the panel layouts in All-Star Superman. This is in the last issue right after Superman punches out a super-powered Luthor and while the kiss doesn't take up a splash page I like how the panels go from a distant shot to a medium shot until it goes into an intimate close-up of the kiss and pulls back again so you can see how fast Superman is flying away from the one person he cares about the most to save her.

I think the kiss is intentionally put in a small panel to highlight how brief a moment the pair are allowed to have.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
Superman/Madman Hullabaloo!

Or is it Sputnik
Aug 22, 2009

Oh, Ho-oh oh oh, oh whoa oh oh oh
I'll get 'em caught, show Oak what I've got
After warping into Earth-Prime at the end of the Legion of Three Worlds-story, Superboy-Prime is living in his parents' basement plotting revenge. A Blackest Night crossover sees black lanterns of the people he killed go after Superboy-Prime and after unsuccessfully fighting the Black Lanterns for a while, there's a showdown in his Fortress of Solitude.



Adventure Comics #5

Or is it Sputnik fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Oct 9, 2013

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

bobkatt013 posted:

Superman/Madman Hullabaloo!


Superman is like one of the three characters in comics where when they discuss religion or the lack of it, it doesn't feel obnoxious.

StumblyWumbly
Sep 12, 2007

Batmanticore!

Or is it Sputnik posted:

After warping into Earth-Prime at the end of the Legion of Three Worlds-story, Superboy-Prime is living in his parents' basement plotting revenge. A Blackest Night crossover sees black lanterns of the people he killed go after Superboy-Prime and after unsuccessfully fighting the Black Lanterns for a while, there's a showdown in his Fortress of Solitude.



Wow, who wrote that? Superboy sitting in his basement asking the world why DC's writers push him into dumb grimdark bullshit. That's pretty good.

Or is it Sputnik
Aug 22, 2009

Oh, Ho-oh oh oh, oh whoa oh oh oh
I'll get 'em caught, show Oak what I've got

StumblyWumbly posted:

Wow, who wrote that? Superboy sitting in his basement asking the world why DC's writers push him into dumb grimdark bullshit. That's pretty good.
Geoff Johns, writer of Infinite Crisis, Sinestro Corps War and Legion of Three Worlds :v:

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.

bobkatt013 posted:

Superman/Madman Hullabaloo!


Does anyone have that Sandman issue Allred drew about Prez Rickard? There's that bit where he guests on SNL and inspires John Belushi to clean up his act.

Vicissitude
Jan 26, 2004

You ever do the chicken dance at a wake? That really bothers people.

Action Tortoise posted:

Does anyone have that Sandman issue Allred drew about Prez Rickard? There's that bit where he guests on SNL and inspires John Belushi to clean up his act.

I believe it was Prez, the Teenager President who inspired Belushi to clean up. :colbert:

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Vicissitude posted:

I believe it was Prez, the Teenager President who inspired Belushi to clean up. :colbert:

The one by the last name of Rickard...that he's asking about?

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
That Sandman issue with Prez is loving surreal. It is proof positive that there are no bad characters, only bad writers.

Kammat
Feb 9, 2008
Odd Person
Here ya go. from Sandman #54

Maelstache
Feb 25, 2013

gOTTA gO fAST
For context, this was DWM's homage to the Doctor Who strips published in TV Comic in the sixties. These were aimed at a younger audience than the TV show, and tended to be lighter and more whimsical. In many of those stories, "Dr Who" was accompanied by his grandchildren John and Gillian, who vanished at some point during the Troughton era were never heard from again.


Maelstache fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Oct 10, 2013

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
Fallen Rib

Kammat posted:

Here ya go. from Sandman #54



That was my favourite issue of Sandman and it just a pure celebration of idealism.

Kammat
Feb 9, 2008
Odd Person
It really is one of the best side stories during Sandman's run. Here's the last four pages of the tale. Prez has died, Death escorts him to someone who wants to have a talk with him.





Sandman #54

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

Kammat posted:

Sandman #54
I had forgotten how good that was, thanks for posting those.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
I love that he wears the presidential seal on his shirt. It reminds me of the chains from Idiocracy.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Kammat posted:

It really is one of the best side stories during Sandman's run. Here's the last four pages of the tale. Prez has died, Death escorts him to someone who wants to have a talk with him.





Sandman #54

And while you're at it, take a look at what else is in the chest containing Azazel's bottle and the Corinthian's skull.

Or is it Sputnik
Aug 22, 2009

Oh, Ho-oh oh oh, oh whoa oh oh oh
I'll get 'em caught, show Oak what I've got

El Gallinero Gros posted:

That Sandman issue with Prez is loving surreal. It is proof positive that there are no bad characters, only bad writers.
Prez is a national treasure, you philistine.



Yes, that is a legless Dracula assassination attempt at Prez Rickard.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
I love Prez dearly, and everything he stands for, but it's hard to read his stories and not feel like you might just be taking some crazy pills. As President he made his doddering mother Martha vice president, and he made his Native American friend, who lives in a cave and never wears a shirt, head of the FBI. One time he fought a team of Soviet chess players run by not-Bobby Fischer.

Five issues and a Supergirl team-up was far less than Prez deserved.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
His Native American friend and mom worked, so you can't argue with the results.

Or is it Sputnik
Aug 22, 2009

Oh, Ho-oh oh oh, oh whoa oh oh oh
I'll get 'em caught, show Oak what I've got

Choco1980 posted:

I love Prez dearly, and everything he stands for, but it's hard to read his stories and not feel like you might just be taking some crazy pills. As President he made his doddering mother Martha vice president, and he made his Native American friend, who lives in a cave and never wears a shirt, head of the FBI. One time he fought a team of Soviet chess players run by not-Bobby Fischer.

Five issues and a Supergirl team-up was far less than Prez deserved.
I know what you're saying - I read a translated issue #2 in an anthology and was 100% convinced they botched something in the translation. Nope, it's as impenetrable in english too. Regardless, I'm going to stick to my guns here's - there's no way anyone can tell me that the national guard fistfighting a werewolf for hours atop the white house isn't one of the best if not the best comics moment in the last 40 years.

Action Tortoise
Feb 18, 2012

A wolf howls.
I know how he feels.

Kammat posted:

Here ya go. from Sandman #54



Thanks, bud! :D

Brief Lives was my favorite story arc in Sandman. My favorite part has to be when Dream loses his poo poo over the thought of seeing his son Orpheus, or at least the severed but still very alive head of his son Orpheus. Delirium's just chilling in mid-air because gently caress gravity when you're Delirium and she notices her brother cradling his head in his hands. When she asks Destiny what happened, he coldly brushes her off. Then this happens.




She's been shown to be completely spacy and capricious but that moment made her the Best Endless.

Parahexavoctal
Oct 10, 2004

I AM NOT BEING PAID TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS! DONKEY!!

Action Tortoise posted:


Delirium's just chilling in mid-air because gently caress gravity when you're Delirium and she notices her brother cradling his head in his hands. When she asks Destiny what happened, he coldly brushes her off. Then this happens.



I know why Delight turned into Delirium.

It was the Crisis. DC stopped indulging in the sheer whimsical delight of the multiverse, and instead tried to channel everything into one deliriously muddled system that just made things worse.

you think Hawkman is cool? Try explaining where he came from.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Parahexavoctal posted:

you think Hawkman is cool? Try explaining where he came from.

I'll get Donna Troy to do it!

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Deadpool #18. Here's some context:

A recent issue showed a flashback to a wacky, old adventure Deadpool had with Luke Cage and Iron Fist where Deadpool insisted on tagging along. As part of it, Deadpool got down with a woman named Carmelita, who then ran off in terror after seeing his face. The current arc has Deadpool in North Korea, where he finds out the government has been making their own bootleg X-Men using Deadpool's DNA to graft their powers. He's teamed up with Captain America, Wolverine and the bootleg X-Men, but there's a problem. All of their families are kept hostage in case they try to revolt. Deadpool also found out that the hostages include Carmelita and their daughter. According to Deadpool earlier in the story, she came to him asking for child support at some point and Deadpool told her to gently caress off. Now he's out to rescue them.

The enemy soldiers do try to kill the hostages, only to be stopped by Captain America and Deadpool before they had to run off and fight more bad guys. Once the smoke is cleared, Korean Nightcrawler is reunited with his wife, but Wolverine overhears talk about how only a few survived. The soldiers did open fire on the hostages after all. At first Wolverine thinks Deadpool is cold enough to handle it until seeing him acting like his goofy self, unable to contain how excited he is to see them. When a guy runs by, yelling, "They're all dead!" Deadpool goes silent.

FredMSloniker
Jan 2, 2008

Why, yes, I do like Kirby games.
The panels may be super serious, but I admit the thought of Korean bootleg X-Men makes me giggle. :v: Also, what's the deal with Cap's head on the last page? He looks like Captain Caveman America.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

He's taken to wearing a helmet and some more hefty body armor lately.

Lars Blitzer
Aug 17, 2004

He drinks a Whiskey drink, he drinks a Vodka drink
He drinks a Lager drink, he drinks a Cider drink...


Dick Tracy's number one fan.

Cabbit posted:

He's taken to wearing a helmet and some more hefty body armor lately.

Same reason Tony Stark's been rocking the goatee lately: to look more like their movie counterparts.

But back on topic. Wade's more than just a goofy sociopath. Always has been; just read Kelly's run close to the beginning. He's more than capable of pathos.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax
That is heartbreaking tragedy done right. Not grimness for the sake of grimness.

Madrox
Jan 31, 2001

Does whatever
a multiple can.
X-Factor Annual vol. 1 #6 from 1991 was part of the forgettable x-over "Kings of Pain". What I do remember it for, was a backup written by Peter David and featuring Mystique. Her close friend Irene Adler, AKA Destiny, had recently died at the hands of the Reavers. It's worth noting that when originally writing Mystique and Destiny, Claremont had wanted to portray them as lovers, but the Comics Code Authority at the time would not allow a same-sex relationship to be shown. This back-up shows Mystique going to scatter Destiny's ashes, at the specific place and time instructed in her will. Destiny also left her an envelope containing Beatles lyrics, a ring, and a photo. Keep in mind that Destiny's power is the ability to see the future.



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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
When Wade finds Butler, he's gonna wear his duodenum as a jaunty hat. And that scene hit me emotionally in a way I haven't been hit since that little kid asked Aunt May if she was Peter's mom at his funeral.

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