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Doctor Reynolds posted:My favourite thing the Ghost Ice Burner in the Andraste Temple does is say, "Hey, you're cool." to Shale. It's funny doing that quest with a party of Sten, Shale and Morrigan after previously rolling in with Alistair, Leliana and Wynne. All the awe and wonder as they experience the temple are replaced by them just making GBS threads over everything. I don't think any of them answer the ghost's questions, they all pretty much just to tell it to gently caress off. Morrigan does something similar during the Fade section of the Circle tower. Everyone else is playing out some elaborate crisis or fantasy and when you get to her she basically says "Yeah, I know it's not real, I'm not retarded. I was just waiting for you to show up so we could roll on out of here." I think that was when I started liking her character. It's actually strange, for a conventional Bioware RPG, both Sten and Morrigan constantly criticize Bioware's 'go to three locations-> collect the three macguffins-> go to endgame' and give you pretty good suggestions you're never allowed to act on. Why can't we just find and take out Logain first? I dunno, Morrigan, I don't have an option to agree with you here. Same with Sten when he confronts (and sometimes attacks) you during the search for Andraste's ashes.
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I am having an issue with my DA:O game - despite owning all the DLC (due to owning the Ultimate Edition) it says I am unauthorized for them, even when I log onto the account that claims I own the ultimate edition. Even weirder, the site itself says I can't post in PC tech support because I don't own the game, despite it showing up that I do indeed own Dragon Age - Ultimate Edition.
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Wolfsheim posted:It's funny doing that quest with a party of Sten, Shale and Morrigan after previously rolling in with Alistair, Leliana and Wynne. All the awe and wonder as they experience the temple are replaced by them just making GBS threads over everything. I don't think any of them answer the ghost's questions, they all pretty much just to tell it to gently caress off. Morrigan does something similar during the Fade section of the Circle tower. Everyone else is playing out some elaborate crisis or fantasy and when you get to her she basically says "Yeah, I know it's not real, I'm not retarded. I was just waiting for you to show up so we could roll on out of here." I think that was when I started liking her character. Sten also knows his fade dream's not real but he tells you that he's just playing it out to humour the demon until the Warden shows up  . Dog you just wake up by patting it  While I also remember that I liked Morrigan's suggestion, honestly, Arl Eamon ends up being one of your biggest supporters against the blight in terms of actual military aid and in terms of his expertise at politicking. Sten's in the wrong there imho, but mostly because he doesn't know that humans will often devolve into arguing about how to fix a leak on sinking ship instead of just, you know, fixing it.
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Oct 14, 2013 05:28
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Wolfsheim posted:It's actually strange, for a conventional Bioware RPG, both Sten and Morrigan constantly criticize Bioware's 'go to three locations-> collect the three macguffins-> go to endgame' and give you pretty good suggestions you're never allowed to act on. Why can't we just find and take out Logain first? I dunno, Morrigan, I don't have an option to agree with you here. Same with Sten when he confronts (and sometimes attacks) you during the search for Andraste's ashes. Honestly though, it's not really the greatest suggestion on Morrigan's part in context. At that point she's talking about assassinating the most important person in the country, in the capital city, in front of all of the nobles most likely, with a group of at most a dog, a brand new Grey Warden of varying type, a barely trained Grey Warden, and a Witch of the Wilds. Even if you could do it, nobody would have any reason to think you are anything other than what Loghain said: backstabbing, spying traitors who want to destroy Ferelden, or whatever other such nonsense. Edit: Though Sten's objection is more reasonable, I would still say there's logic in what you do to save Eamon. While his armies may not be the most important thing, having an important noble who can back a friendly royal ascending the throne and make legitimate claims against Loghain as an assassin and attempted murderer is very useful within the political context of Ferelden in DA:O, and it's not unreasonable to think that there might be magic ashes that could save him in a world like Thedas. Lightning Knight fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Oct 14, 2013 |
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Oct 14, 2013 05:29
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Wolfsheim posted:It's funny doing that quest with a party of Sten, Shale and Morrigan after previously rolling in with Alistair, Leliana and Wynne. All the awe and wonder as they experience the temple are replaced by them just making GBS threads over everything. I don't think any of them answer the ghost's questions, they all pretty much just to tell it to gently caress off. Morrigan does something similar during the Fade section of the Circle tower. Everyone else is playing out some elaborate crisis or fantasy and when you get to her she basically says "Yeah, I know it's not real, I'm not retarded. I was just waiting for you to show up so we could roll on out of here." I think that was when I started liking her character. Why am I fixing random peasant problems, Morrigan? Because telling a salesman he's a dick will put me 10% more on the path to figuring out how to stab two people at once.
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Oct 14, 2013 05:31
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I wonder, if it's a coincidence or not, that DA:O had all these characters criticising the classic Bioware formula of "Tutorial area, do these X number of areas in any order, end game", then it ends up being the last to do it? Mass Effect 2 came out around the same time and was did it, but after them you've got ME2 and DA2, both relatively 'linear' with acts/chapters instead. There was no 'what next Shepherd? Help the Krogan or the Quarians?' there was an order to what you did the 'priority' stuff in. Same with DA2, your main quests were always in a certain order. In fact you only really got one big thing to deal with each chapter, and each time skip.
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Oct 14, 2013 05:37
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KittyEmpress posted:I am having an issue with my DA:O game - despite owning all the DLC (due to owning the Ultimate Edition) it says I am unauthorized for them, even when I log onto the account that claims I own the ultimate edition. The DLC authorization is broken by the current patch on Origin and Steam I think. There's a new patch that's only on their support site I think? And people give Bioware's competition a hard time for supposedly buggy games.
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Oct 14, 2013 05:50
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epitasis posted:The DLC authorization is broken by the current patch on Origin and Steam I think. There's a new patch that's only on their support site I think? And people give Bioware's competition a hard time for supposedly buggy games. Their competition us more often than not Bethesda and Obsidian, and Bioware isn't even CLOSE to them when it comes to buggy games. The one good thing you can generally say about the stuff Bioware releases, is that they doesn't break down every other hour and their quests are completable.
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Oct 14, 2013 06:01
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Lightning Knight posted:Honestly though, it's not really the greatest suggestion on Morrigan's part in context. At that point she's talking about assassinating the most important person in the country, in the capital city, in front of all of the nobles most likely, with a group of at most a dog, a brand new Grey Warden of varying type, a barely trained Grey Warden, and a Witch of the Wilds. Even if you could do it, nobody would have any reason to think you are anything other than what Loghain said: backstabbing, spying traitors who want to destroy Ferelden, or whatever other such nonsense. I think that might've been a subtle call out to how Morrigan's never been with/interacted with other people outside of spying on nearby villages and really doesn't have much of an idea how the majority of the world actually works. Or I could just be reading into things too much, but it makes sense.
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I tried to go to Denerim first because I thought Morrigan suggesting we go there and attack Loghain was a sign that the option existed. Surely they wouldn't bring it up (without giving any explanation as to why it was impossible through dialogue) if I couldn't do it, right? Well, poo poo, no, the gates are all locked and you can never point this out to Morrigan later. Where's my "We've TRIED that, you harpy; that's not going to work!" dialogue option?
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Oct 14, 2013 06:13
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Does Morrigan ever really push the issue though? It's been awhile but the only person I remember being really serious about just going to kill Loghain/TheAD and skipping the middlemen was Sten.
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Oct 14, 2013 06:17
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Lotish posted:I tried to go to Denerim first because I thought Morrigan suggesting we go there and attack Loghain was a sign that the option existed. Surely they wouldn't bring it up (without giving any explanation as to why it was impossible through dialogue) if I couldn't do it, right? Well, poo poo, no, the gates are all locked and you can never point this out to Morrigan later. Where's my "We've TRIED that, you harpy; that's not going to work!" dialogue option? Morrigan needed to exist in a New Vegas style game where instead of doing the stupid quests you could just kill and rob everyone and justify it due to Grey Warden reasons.
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Oct 14, 2013 06:26
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Penakoto posted:Their competition us more often than not Bethesda and Obsidian, and Bioware isn't even CLOSE to them when it comes to buggy games. Do not even talk to me about trying to play unpatched Oblivion on release I will bite you.
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Oct 14, 2013 06:32
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Pick posted:Do not even talk to me about trying to play unpatched Oblivion on release I will bite you. That's what you get for playing Oblivion.
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Oct 14, 2013 06:47
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HenessyHero posted:Sten also knows his fade dream's not real but he tells you that he's just playing it out to humour the demon until the Warden shows up Sten just misses his friends. 
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Oct 14, 2013 07:27
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Penakoto posted:Their competition us more often than not Bethesda and Obsidian, and Bioware isn't even CLOSE to them when it comes to buggy games. Awakening has a fun bug where all your equipment gets deleted.
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Oct 14, 2013 09:30
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sassassin posted:Awakening has a fun bug where all your equipment gets deleted. Yeah, but it was really funny seeing my badass, dragon-slaying mage show up in Amaranthine in nothing but his tightie whities.
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Oct 14, 2013 09:47
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The first time I played Awakening I was actually still wearing my boots, but nothing else. Luckily I was playing a city elf and had kept the outfit in my inventory the entire game, so soon enough I was backstabbing darkspawn in a wedding dress. It worked out pretty well. The second time they had fixed that in a patch, so my mage showed up wearing some decent enchanted robes and such...except I had been playing an arcane warrior, and all my heavy armor was gone 
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Oct 14, 2013 10:06
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sassassin posted:Awakening has a fun bug where all your equipment gets deleted. Unless you mean the part in the mines where if you don't unequip your character, you lose your equipment permanently. That really sucked. The ghoul never gave me back my leveled stuff!
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Oct 14, 2013 14:20
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Yup, I found that out the hard way. Had to use a bunch of console commands to give all of my stuff back.
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Oct 14, 2013 14:36
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As a mage you can pretty much break the game over your knee naked at that point anyway.
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Oct 14, 2013 15:09
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HenessyHero posted:Sten also knows his fade dream's not real but he tells you that he's just playing it out to humour the demon until the Warden shows up My favorite part of Sten in the fade was it gave the impression that sarcasm was the main currency in the lands of the Qun.
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Leelee posted:Unless you mean the part in the mines where if you don't unequip your character, you lose your equipment permanently. That really sucked. The ghoul never gave me back my leveled stuff! That happened to me, but there's another bug where you just start Awakening with no equipment at all. The latter happened to my girlfriend when she tried to play it and that killed all her desire to continue.
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Darkrenown posted:That happened to me, but there's another bug where you just start Awakening with no equipment at all. The latter happened to my girlfriend when she tried to play it and that killed all her desire to continue. As an added insult: While the item itself will be removed, any bonus or penalty from the item will apparently be merged into your character's base stats if your character was wearing it. So if for example your Warden wore the Warden Commander's armour, you'll not only start Awakening naked, but also with a permanent 30% fatigue. If you're on the PC, there's is a fix for this. Raygereio fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Oct 14, 2013 |
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And there are also mods to include most of the DLC stuff that otherwise wouldn't be transferred over. I wasn't ready to give up my enormous space sword yet.
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sassassin posted:As a mage you can pretty much break the game over your knee naked at that point anyway. My favorite part of Awakening was playing as a mage during the final siege on the keep. I had so many damage dealing passives on I just stood in the doorway. Spawning enemies died before they even finished loading and caused the game to crash.
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Extra Smooth Balls posted:You know they're probably going to make him all grimdark in DA:I. Yeah. They made him handsome in that preview, so I'm guessing you're right...which makes me sad. Maybe we'll be pleasently surprised, though, and he'll be the same old Varric.
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Bored posted:Yeah. They made him handsome in that preview, so I'm guessing you're right...which makes me sad. Maybe we'll be pleasently surprised, though, and he'll be the same old Varric. I imagine they're just sprucing him up for a Dwarf Inquisitor to romance (  )
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HenessyHero posted:I imagine they're just sprucing him up for a Dwarf Inquisitor to romance ( It'll be funny if the dwarf Inquisitor is celibate by default because Gaider can't handle it.
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You start the romance and a popup appears: "THIS DWARF ROMANCE HAS BEEN CLOSED DUE TO DAVID GAIDER'S SHUTDOWN"
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First patch: DWARF SEX REINTRODUCED BY POPULAR DEMAND
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Speaking of Dwarf Sex Scenes, the cinematic director opens up about intimacy in DAI. http://www.oxm.co.uk/64049/dragon-age-inquisitions-sex-scenes-are-mature-and-tasteful-dont-expect-victorias-secret-panties/
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HenessyHero posted:Speaking of Dwarf Sex Scenes, the cinematic director opens up about intimacy in DAI. "Mature and tasteful" has never really been their thing. That he cites Mass Effect as a positive example does not inspire confidence.
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etjester posted:"Mature and tasteful" has never really been their thing. That he cites Mass Effect as a positive example does not inspire confidence. Hopefully he's talking about the sex scenes in ME1. They were more "cinematic" and less tacky. To be fair, the Origins cutscenes were really bad, so just about anything would be a step up.
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caleramaen posted:Hopefully he's talking about the sex scenes in ME1. They were more "cinematic" and less tacky. To be fair, the Origins cutscenes were really bad, so just about anything would be a step up. Yeah, I imagine he's just talking about the cinematic itself though if you ask me I'd prefer the fade-to-blacks they did in ME2 and 3 far more than the on-screen scenes in ME1. ME1's weren't terrible or anything but all of it just seems like pointless titillation to me, a reward for the player. No real value is lost by just implying sex through dialogue rather than actually animating it.
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caleramaen posted:To be fair, the Origins cutscenes were really bad, so just about anything would be a step up. 
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^ edit-And I was fine not having to see that scene again, dammit.Kibayasu posted:Yeah, I imagine he's just talking about the cinematic itself though if you ask me I'd prefer the fade-to-blacks they did in ME2 and 3 far more than the on-screen scenes in ME1. ME1's weren't terrible or anything but all of it just seems like pointless titillation to me, a reward for the player. No real value is lost by just implying sex through dialogue rather than actually animating it. If memory serves, I vaguely remember people bitching on the Bioware forums over the fade to black scenes.
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M_Sinistrari posted:^ edit-And I was fine not having to see that scene again, dammit. I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
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Kibayasu posted:Yeah, I imagine he's just talking about the cinematic itself though if you ask me I'd prefer the fade-to-blacks they did in ME2 and 3 far more than the on-screen scenes in ME1. ME1's weren't terrible or anything but all of it just seems like pointless titillation to me, a reward for the player. No real value is lost by just implying sex through dialogue rather than actually animating it. Really, a bit of half-naked cuddling/kissing and a fade to black is about the most tasteful sex scene a video game can have. It is obvious what is going on, and if they want to see hardcore sex, I am sure there are other video games out there for them. Though now that I think about it, are there any western games with explicit sex in them? I know about Japanese visual novels, is that all? I would not see the "upgrade" of Varric's graphics to be a sign that he can be romanced. You could not romance Flemeth in DA:2. And it is probably just a general Bioware thing, making their games and the characters in them prettier.
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Torrannor posted:Really, a bit of half-naked cuddling/kissing and a fade to black is about the most tasteful sex scene a video game can have. It is obvious what is going on, and if they want to see hardcore sex, I am sure there are other video games out there for them. Witcher got more down and dirty but it is more a European game I guess.
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