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smg77 posted:Have we seen what all seven powers are? It seems like Nan can also predict the future. In one of the first episodes, she told Zoe she would find a strange & unexpected love, or something like that. And Fiona kissed the guy in the first episode & sucked out his life force, I don't even know what you'd call that one. Or maybe it's just another version of murder vagina?
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Random Stranger posted:I'm going to guess that she's going to wind up being the next supreme and unite both factions. If it were any other show, then yes -- I'd say Queenie would be perfect for that. However, (a) the two covens have no external enemy yet to unite against (well, other than the world), and (b) it's AHS, a series which would be just as happy to end everything with a bonfire where everyone's dead and... I don't know, a satanic minotaur baby kills its babysitter. Plus aliens. In fact, calling the bonfire + satanic minotaur baby apocalypse now.
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April posted:It seems like Nan can also predict the future. In one of the first episodes, she told Zoe she would find a strange & unexpected love, or something like that. And Fiona kissed the guy in the first episode & sucked out his life force, I don't even know what you'd call that one. Or maybe it's just another version of murder vagina? It could be an 'evolution' or something thereof. Succubus-themed powers or something.
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April posted:It seems like Nan can also predict the future. In one of the first episodes, she told Zoe she would find a strange & unexpected love, or something like that. And Fiona kissed the guy in the first episode & sucked out his life force, I don't even know what you'd call that one. Or maybe it's just another version of murder vagina? It's probably the controlled, trained version of murder vagina. Figure all the girls were weaker and less capable when they first began to manifest. Madison probably did poltergeist stuff, Nan likely couldn't keep the voices out and Zoe is probably a succubus.
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haveblue posted:I don't think the seven wonders necessarily correspond to what we've seen on the show so far. The way I interpreted that bit was that since a typical witch has one power and an exceptional witch may have 4 or 5, demonstrating mastery of 7 is taken as sufficient proof that she has pretty much all of them and may be recognized as the Supreme. The Last Supreme was frozen in an iceberg for 100 years while the Voodoo Witch Nation conquered the world and...
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smg77 posted:Have we seen what all seven powers are? She's talked about potion stuff several times. I think that's what she does: Imbues potions with magic. It fits her personality well so far.
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Ror posted:I'm already ashamed of myself for this, but I would really like a looping GIF of the bubbling semen. With.. semenplosion:  Just plain loop:  Rest of the episode;    TheBizzness posted:I just hope we're done with the rape this season.
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TheBizzness posted:I just hope we're done with the rape this season. The Finer Arts > The TV IV > American Horror Story: Coven - I just hope we're done with the rape this season.
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Spiky Ooze posted:I think like True Blood this show has the weakness of trying to cover too much ground. Pretty much everything from suspense to character development relies on a slow burn, and instead they just have giant casts and all sorts of subplots. I hate to channel my high school art teacher but "less is more!" I appreciate that opinion on the show, but I just want to throw in that the accelerated pace of AHS is one of the primary reasons I love it so much (the same might be said of another Ryan Murphy show, Nip/Tuck). He's got a great way of making each episode end on a majestic cliff-hanger that feels like you've just watched the season finale of any other drama. The entire landscape of the show often seems to change multiple times over the course of a single episode. IMO it's amazingly creative how they pull it off without completely burning out viewers.
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petewhitley posted:I appreciate that opinion on the show, but I just want to throw in that the accelerated pace of AHS is one of the primary reasons I love it so much (the same might be said of another Ryan Murphy show, Nip/Tuck). He's got a great way of making each episode end on a majestic cliff-hanger that feels like you've just watched the season finale of any other drama. The entire landscape of the show often seems to change multiple times over the course of a single episode. IMO it's amazingly creative how they pull it off without completely burning out viewers. The only problem with that is they can end up burning themselves out, like they did with Asylum. You just keep building each episode bigger and bigger, sooner or later you need to resolve it all, and in a manner that's satisfying given all of the anticipation. If they don't have some kind of large scale power struggle this time around, I think a lot of people are going to sour on the show.
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We are, what, 3 episodes in? If AHS keeps to its track record then the game's gonna change pretty dramatically by the time we are midway through the season, and will change again, even more dramatically, somewhere near the end of the season. Why are we whinging about the season's ending already? After 2 pretty awesome seasons I have enough faith in the show's writers to create satisfying endings (and I count season 2's "anticlimax" to be a great way to wrap up the crazy that was housed in that asylum). I wonder if with the death of Madison a new supreme will be chosen automatically/Fiona's demise will not slacken at all. What I really want is for Queenie to become the Supreme Voodoo Queen and have her wreck some poo poo with her army of well built minotaur.
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April posted:It seems like Nan can also predict the future. In one of the first episodes, she told Zoe she would find a strange & unexpected love, or something like that. And Fiona kissed the guy in the first episode & sucked out his life force, I don't even know what you'd call that one. Or maybe it's just another version of murder vagina? Maybe the "powers of a succubus"? edit: xeria said this already. I concur. haveblue posted:I don't think the seven wonders necessarily correspond to what we've seen on the show so far. The way I interpreted that bit was that since a typical witch has one power and an exceptional witch may have 4 or 5, demonstrating mastery of 7 is taken as sufficient proof that she has pretty much all of them and may be recognized as the Supreme. I, for one, am glad Madison is gone. And I hope she doesn't come back. And I believe that it will shown that she wasn't the true Supreme anyway, so her death will be all the more tragic-- Fiona's paranoia will have resulted in the death of an innocent, promising young witch, and we know witches are already an endangered species. escape artist fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Oct 26, 2013 |
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This must now be in every op for this show(maybe entire forum?).
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Ok this is driving me crazy. In the third episode, the scene where the new neighbor is unloading the truck and a few others, I SWEAR I recognize the music. Is it from Poltergeist?
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I want whatsherface to take Frankenstein out of his suffering by loving him to death. I also want someone to point out that she's gotten really weird about a guy she knew for 15 minutes.
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It's overcompensation for how incredibly lovely her life has become. He's the personification of a normal life, which is the thing she is mourning the loss of when she runs into him. A good guy that tried to do the right thing and help people out was destroyed by magic. So it really gets to her. Then she sees a way to make it better, so she gets a bit obsessive about the whole thing. Get him fixed, get him back to his mom, make it right. Help him be the nice normal guy again so that she can be reassured 'nice' and 'normal' are things that can still exist after magic. Of course it's all a giant lie, and not just because he's not really the same person that died [Perhaps literally]. His life was never all that normal and nice, as we see when mommy tries to 'comfort' him. He was hosed up before he ever met her, he just hid it pretty well. So she's fighting for something that never really existed in the first place and didn't have the meaning she thought it did, but it's still a fairly natural reaction to what she's been through.
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I hope that Zombie-Kyle gets un-zombined soon or at least made into a smart-zombie or something, because Evan Peters' too good of an actor and it just seems like a waste.
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You know, Zoe walking in on that is even more hosed up when you realize that she has no idea that Kyle's mom was a child molester. I'm not saying that his mom "deserved" it (she was a hosed-up sexual predator, granted), but Zoe's going to blame herself for Kyle's mom's death. Zoe's going to think that this "thing" she brought back from the dead just killed a woman for no reason while looking like the woman's son.nutranurse posted:I hope that Zombie-Kyle gets un-zombined soon or at least made into a smart-zombie or something, because Evan Peters' too good of an actor and it just seems like a waste. I think he will eventually. It's only been two episodes as a zombie and he already seems to be regaining some sort of recognition or others, possibly some of his past memories.
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Boogaleeboo posted:It's overcompensation for how incredibly lovely her life has become. He's the personification of a normal life, which is the thing she is mourning the loss of when she runs into him. A good guy that tried to do the right thing and help people out was destroyed by magic. So it really gets to her. Then she sees a way to make it better, so she gets a bit obsessive about the whole thing. Get him fixed, get him back to his mom, make it right. Help him be the nice normal guy again so that she can be reassured 'nice' and 'normal' are things that can still exist after magic. In the beginning of the episode, didn't the mom say that she found her son's stash(of meth it seems like)? Anyway, this was another good episode, with a lot more emotional drama. I felt there were a lot of "Everyone has problems" or humanizing moments. That said, Madison's death was sad because not only was she not aware of anything, she didn't seem like she wanted to become supreme in the first place. To be fair though, she was given like, less than 10 minutes to process the whole "You are the next supreme" information, but still, I don't think she has the power hungry trait in her. Fiona wanted to be supreme badly, but the girls seem more like they just want to, y'know, be young adults. I mean, they can do whatever they want to begin with and adding witch powers on top of that makes it even more. My guess for the finale is that (in true AHS fashion) all of them will die with the exception of Evan Peter's character who will literally become Satan after the final witch dies.
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Postal Parcel posted:(of meth it seems like)? That was weed. Have you never seen weed before?
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Postal Parcel posted:That said, Madison's death was sad because not only was she not aware of anything, she didn't seem like she wanted to become supreme in the first place. To be fair though, she was given like, less than 10 minutes to process the whole "You are the next supreme" information, but still, I don't think she has the power hungry trait in her. It was even more sad because during the "bonding with Fiona" scenes, you could tell Madison was really desperate for a mother figure in her life, and she really seemed to enjoy spending time with Fiona. Madison even dropped her usual "I'll use sarcasm and insults as a defensive shield" act around her, and when Fiona said she had cancer, Madison immediately offered to use all of her Hollywood contacts to get her the best doctors available. For which Fiona thanked her by cutting her throat. 
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nutranurse posted:That was weed. Have you never seen weed before? Sorry, sorry. I came in late to the scene and just heard stash and considering how messed up she looked, I went with the worst.
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I mean, I don't blame you, she seems to fit that PWT demographic that normally uses meth. But Kyle's a good kid, and good kids only do weed.
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Postal Parcel posted:Sorry, sorry. I came in late to the scene and just heard stash and considering how messed up she looked, I went with the worst. As a ganja consumer of the Gulf Coast, I can assure you a woman that dresses and behaves like that is guaranteed to have a glass bowl pipe. Always date the Cajun women that like their screen-pipe or bat/one hitters. You know theirs won't double as an ice pipe. Poor Tate, all he wanted was a good mother. I can't wait to see how Misty handles Violate's relationship apart from her.
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nutranurse posted:I mean, I don't blame you, she seems to fit that PWT demographic that normally uses meth. But Kyle's a good kid, and good kid's only do weed. New thread title?
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nutranurse posted:Not with that typo. The real American horror is unnecessary apostrophes.
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smg77 posted:The real American horror is unnecessary apostrophes. My grandmother, bless her soul, would say (if someone has gorged themselves on pills and gotten wasted, as opposed to imbibing way too much alcohol) "He's been drinking that dope again!" That's an adorable native Acadian French speaker for you. So, in essence, it should be Kyle smoked a weed.
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Thoughts on this episode... I loved Nan's "...and guys find me hot." So  I can't stand FrankenTate. Someone mentioned that it sucks that Evan Peters hasn't spoken in two episodes, and I completely agree. Also, obviously the witches are used to supernatural weird poo poo happening, dumping Tate (what's his name? Kyle?) at his mother's door and loving off before making sure she wouldn't have killed him was unwise. She might have just been letting him in so that she could call a priest and burn him to death! And if I were IncestMom, I probably would have, you know, called the cops or a doctor to report that my son was still alive and probably brain damaged. I find LaLaurie actually quite sympathetic. Yes, she was a horrible person before she was buried alive and still hasn't changed one bit, but Kathy Bates plays her so well. Her sadness about her kids being hung, her fear of Minotaur Man... I don't know. I just feel sorry for her even though she would probably chain me to a stove and whip me periodically for being darker skinned than she is. Also, "lieessssssssss." uptown fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Oct 27, 2013 |
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uptown posted:I find LaLaurie actually quite sympathetic. Yes, she was a horrible person before she was buried alive and still hasn't changed one bit, but Kathy Bates plays her so well. Her sadness about her kids being hung, her fear of Minotaur Man... I don't know. I just feel sorry for her even though she would probably chain me to a stove and whip me periodically for being darker skinned than she is. Also, "lieessssssssss." I entirely forgot about LaLaurie. Man, I love the writers for fulfilling my fantasy of turning the tables on a racist slave-master. American Horror Story is the best show.
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nutranurse posted:I entirely forgot about LaLaurie. Man, I love the writers for fulfilling my fantasy of turning the tables on a racist slave-master. American Horror Story is the best show. Oh yeah, I love when Fiona was just like "I voted for him[Obama], twice" and you could feel the disbelief from LaLaurie. Then she compounded it with the whole "There have been multiple black people in positions of power  ".Though her whole "There's nothing I hate more than a racist" made me laugh a bit. I mean, it's definitely good and it keeps us from needing any sort of redemption or "Oh she's evil and racist too" elements, but it was just hilariously read. Also, I really want Netflix to start carrying S2 before we get much further. I missed it all due to being out of the country and I'm not prepared to buy it despite hearing pretty much nothing but good things about it.
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Postal Parcel posted:Oh yeah, I love when Fiona was just like "I voted for him[Obama], twice" and you could feel the disbelief from LaLaurie. Then she compounded it with the whole "There have been multiple black people in positions of power Y'know, I feel like that bit was out of place. The conversation between Fiona and Laveau in the salon was about forms of witchcraft, but there's obviously something troubling about a white woman talking down to a black woman about "hammers chasing nails." They haven't established the reason yet for why the Salem witches and the Voodoo practitioners hate each other so much, have they? Those interactions are very racially charged, I think.
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I could see the two witch groups having to unite against crazy fundamentalist Christians. It's already been depicted as a threat what with Misty being burned at the stakes, and the Christian family moving in next door will probably come to influence their lives somehow. Except for Nan and Shirtless falling in love, obviously
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Admiral Goodenough posted:I could see the two witch groups having to unite against crazy fundamentalist Christians. It's already been depicted as a threat what with Misty being burned at the stakes, and the Christian family moving in next door will probably come to influence their lives somehow. Except for Nan and Shirtless falling in love, obviously I thought they were being made out to be villains and it'd turn out the woman was actually a witch hunter or something, but by the end I'm convinced they were just what they claimed and got poo poo on so badly I ended up feeling kind of bad for them. I'd be happy if their role in the series continues to be them being horribly offended only to get told a proverbial  every time....of SCIENCE! posted:LaLaurie in tears of abject horror at Obama is like the entirety of Right America: Feeling Wronged condensed into one exquisite moment. Kathy Bates is owning this season. She's hit just that right note where she can be perfectly vile, but then less smacked down and more.. laughed off, and the way she reacts to that. Every time she tries to make a big speech about her FAMILY NAME with arrogance only to get treated like the piece of poo poo she is just gold; really again more for the acting than the writing. She just looks so confused/lost/flabbergasted/offended/horrified every time. That scene was the best though. "LIES!!" Postal Parcel posted:My guess for the finale is that (in true AHS fashion) all of them will die with the exception of Evan Peter's character who will literally become Satan after the final witch dies. Did you see season 2? A shocking number of the cast survived that, even though I still think the finale was a let down for failing to deliver some of the promises the season made. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Oct 27, 2013 |
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On the Fleetwood Mac front, because I hope that continues to be a thing, I think "Gypsy" and "Gold Dust Woman" are shoe-ins, but I would love them to use "Silver Springs." The end would suit her anger really well, but it's not a popular song so I don't think it seems a likely pick. AGirlWonder posted:Y'know, I feel like that bit was out of place. The conversation between Fiona and Laveau in the salon was about forms of witchcraft, but there's obviously something troubling about a white woman talking down to a black woman about "hammers chasing nails." They haven't established the reason yet for why the Salem witches and the Voodoo practitioners hate each other so much, have they? Those interactions are very racially charged, I think. Blazing Ownager posted:Kathy Bates is owning this season. She's hit just that right note where she can be perfectly vile, but then less smacked down and more.. laughed off, and the way she reacts to that. Every time she tries to make a big speech about her FAMILY NAME with arrogance only to get treated like the piece of poo poo she is just gold; really again more for the acting than the writing. She just looks so confused/lost/flabbergasted/offended/horrified every time. uptown posted:I can't stand FrankenTate. Someone mentioned that it sucks that Evan Peters hasn't spoken in two episodes, and I completely agree. Also, obviously the witches are used to supernatural weird poo poo happening, dumping Tate (what's his name? Kyle?) at his mother's door and loving off before making sure she wouldn't have killed him was unwise. She might have just been letting him in so that she could call a priest and burn him to death! And if I were IncestMom, I probably would have, you know, called the cops or a doctor to report that my son was still alive and probably brain damaged.
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Well, poo poo. I just figured something out that I might actually be right. You know how at the house the boy was all into Addie instead of the "hotter" girl, and I personally chalked it up to him being all wholesome or something, which I think is how most people read it? Well someone was rewatching this now and noticed she says earlier in the episode "I get it all the time, and the boys find me hot." In a very braggy moment. ... I don't think she can just read minds. Maybe I'm over thinking the way this came off, but knowing how this show goes, I am almost wanting to call it now that at some point we see a guy's POV and she looks entirely different to him. Taliaquin posted:Zoe's kind of dumb right now. My problem with her is how unrealistic everything about how she is written is, pretty much. "Oh hey honey, sorry we didn't tell you that you're a witch. Now these nice men in black will whisk you to Xavier's School of Hogwarts and explain to you there are witches and they can all do things, and you live there now." From this point, as far as I can tell, she proceeds to.. mill around, go to a party, mill around some more, go to a morgue to sew body parts together and create a zombie... wait, what? That's "dragged out of my house kicking and screaming away from my family" to "Sure, let's raise the dead" in 0-30 seconds. The other girls know they are witches and have been at this clearly far longer. But Zoe? Zoe's horribly written. There's nothing in her character that has even a shred of grounding to it. She sounds all calm and morose in her voice overs and we haven't seen her get upset about having her life ripped away to live at a school that doesn't teach anything, not once, and it just doesn't ring true. Before anyone wants to say it'd be cliche to have her whine, or boring, then fine. Make her excited. Or interested. Or horribly guilty for killing her boyfriend. Or something. Not one of her actions seems to follow much reason or logic, given her character's arc - I think it'd been better if they implied she's been living there for a year or more before the story. EDIT: It's been less than a month since she not only killed out her boyfriend and found out she's a witch with a murder vagina, but also that things like telekinesis and magic are real. Keep that in mind with most of her scenes and it's really goofy. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Oct 27, 2013 |
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Blazing Ownager posted:From this point, as far as I can tell, she proceeds to.. mill around, go to a party, mill around some more, go to a morgue to sew body parts together and create a zombie... wait, what? I'm not sure why you picked that moment as "out of character". She didn't sew him together and it wasn't her idea to raise him from the dead, it was Madison's idea and Zoe protested most of the way. The out of character moment was when she strolled into a hospital and raped the rapist to death.
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