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Not an Anthem posted:I never really played the COD/BF games until recently so I'm crap at the mechanics but I love BF4! I've been engineer and scout because I'm not as great with figuring out targeted shots as well as all the well-hid enemy snipers. That's one of things I really like that got changed. You can score hella points by just assisting and being a good teammate. I remember seeing the 'Squad Mate Kill counts as Kill' assist with 110 points, that was great. It's just like "Hey you tried your hardest to kill that guy but your bro got him first, but gently caress it dude you get the points too."
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Synastren posted:I've been playing it right the whole time.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:19
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Yeah, in BF3, I tried to be a "good teammate" in public servers by not "kill-stealing" to our overall detriment in order not to get people upset. But now I can feel free to help ensure the kill because if the guy actually was going to kill his target, he'll get the kill anyway. If he wasn't, then I kill the enemy before he has time to orient on me.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:20
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Maybe I'm being a butt, but I think it's kinda silly to make a video complaining about how terrible attack choppers are while in that video the same attack chopper never gets shot down while going on a pretty good rampage against the enemy team. They talk a lot about global balance, but apparently are part of the competitive team? Yeah OK, balance around the competitive teams and not normal regular-rear end players. GLOBAL BALANCE. FWIW - I think in general HE stuff does too little damage as is, and bringing that up would make the attack chopper way more deadly anyway.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:26
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s1ppycup posted:Mortars and XM-25's are both viable options for clearing roofs. Have you unlocked/used the mortar yourself? It seems(?) like it could be good for rooftops considering you can just set it down somewhere and use it when you need to, at least to keep a snipers head down, then wait for the ammo to recharge.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:26
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I love it when you find a sweet spot to go prone, pop out your bipod'd M249 and mow down 15 people in a row.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:27
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Kibayasu posted:Have you unlocked/used the mortar yourself? It seems(?) like it could be good for rooftops considering you can just set it down somewhere and use it when you need to, at least to keep a snipers head down, then wait for the ammo to recharge. I did two rounds of Op Locker just now where mortars were being very heavily used around the entrances to the buildings as well as that little hill where snipers love to hang out. It made the map a lot more fluid.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:28
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Very odd, have not had a problem since launch on Friday, now I am having constant crashes rather than 1/10. Every game is going down. DICE. Fix some, ruin others.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:31
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Acquire Currency! posted:That's one of things I really like that got changed. You can score hella points by just assisting and being a good teammate. I remember seeing the 'Squad Mate Kill counts as Kill' assist with 110 points, that was great. That's a great feature.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:32
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Conquest on Operation Locker is a great place to use the xm25. I've been racking up kills with it when the enemy caps C and all stand in the guard tower thinking they are safe.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:33
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Synastren posted:Ok, so I'm looking for a little help, goons. I wanted to add these: If you're ever holding a room/position/whatever with several dudes- pay attention to where they are looking. Chances are, 90% of the time, everyone is focused on the same doorway or chokepoint shooting at people and throwing grenades. Turn your rear end around and watch the flanks and rear instead. This will save your, and your squads rear end, more than you believe. Never crowd. If you see yourself standing near 2-3 other guys in the same place you should feel nervous and want to move away and overwatch them or their flanks.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:39
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Warbadger posted:Yes, repairing will basically make the scout chopper drat near invulnerable at the moment. I've been making good use of it to level my engineer whenever possible (it gives absurdly high XP for the continuous repairs), and so far the only ways I've died are scout choppers killing the passengers, a decent jet pilot nailing one in a spot it can't avoid his fire, or the aforementioned lucky hit with an AT missile on a slightly damage chopper (which admittedly has not happened to me, but I've hit a few choppers with the RPG from the door seats with satisfying results). A comedy counter to the choppers is to have both engineers on your own chopper take iglas/stingers and fire both the chopper's air-to-air missiles and your engineer stingers at the same time for an instant-kill. Obviously this means you need to be playing with goons and on mumble, but people will rage to no end that you completely shut down their guaranteed kill-streak-mobile every time it takes off. No one seems to notice that all scout helos expose the pilot and engies to LMG fire. Grab the M249 or LSAT and hose them bitches down. If they're far, bipod out-if they're near, just loving spray. Few pilots expect to run into a wall of hurty lead head on, and there's a really good chance that you will get a multikill and a free heli, to boot. Seriously, spray them down any time they're close and you will never have a problem unless the pilot is really drat good about staying really high and far from infantry-at which point the lb isn't anywhere near as much of a threat, anyways.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:41
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Dear DICE, All I really want from Commander mode at this point is the ability to see the rank of a squad's field upgrades and the ability to group select squads. Herding cats is difficult enough, with this commander being even more far-removed from the action than any other in the game's series. I don't mind being held hostage by the team's performance and like that it encourages people to capture points so that our entire team gets more toys than the other team. But please, don't let your UI hold me hostage, too. Don't break my heart. --- So. Commanding is fun, but it could be funnerer. It's always delightful to see an HVT you get marked get all the attention they deserve, seeing all your team's doritos snap to it.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:45
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15 kill rampage on locker, meet my grenade launcher guys!
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Nov 5, 2013 20:46
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Naturally Selected posted:No one seems to notice that all scout helos expose the pilot and engies to LMG fire. Grab the M249 or LSAT and hose them bitches down. If they're far, bipod out-if they're near, just loving spray. Few pilots expect to run into a wall of hurty lead head on, and there's a really good chance that you will get a multikill and a free heli, to boot. I found this out the fun way when a pilot in an attack chopper got a little to close to me when I was in the .50 on a tank. I must have put about 4-7 rounds right in his face because I saw a kill pop up on my screen and the chopper just dropped to the ground almost unharmed.
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Erata posted:So. Commanding is fun, but it could be funnerer. It's always delightful to see an HVT you get marked get all the attention they deserve, seeing all your team's doritos snap to it. It's fun as a soldier when the commander selects an HVT too. Suddenly that sneaky player on the other team is pinpointed for everyone =) Also, yesterday I was playing on a server with a pretty good commander. The server shuffles things up after every few rounds and it was noticeably more difficult when he was the opposing team's commander (he went like 5-0 as commander, me and my buddy were top 3 on the server every time but couldn't win the match when up against the commander). It's just nice when you're a tanker and your commander goes "hey, you've got a couple guys hiding in the rubble on your right" over voice. *swings main cannon over to the right just in time to blast the rocket guys* ChronoReverse fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Nov 5, 2013 |
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Nov 5, 2013 20:47
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Hahaha holy poo poo there's nothing like locking down a 32 man team to Objective A.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:49
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Synastren posted:Ok, so I'm looking for a little help, goons. Think of it like a giant game of Rock Paper Scissors. If you're on foot only rockets can beat tank. If you're in a vehicle only vehicles of equal or greater strength can take you out and also rockets and aircraft. If you're in the air only aircraft and specific anti aircraft weapons can take you out unless you fly too close to the ground. Thing to remember is always pick your battles. If you are being attacked on foot by a heli or a tank or even just an armored car it can be intimidating since its hardly a fair fight but usually there's a way out even if it means hiding until they leave. The important thing is you stick around to complete the objective whether its capture a point or what have you. I can tell you as someone who likes to roll in a tank I'm actually pretty afraid of rolling into a place if there's even two or more rocket men. Hell even one guy on foot could take you out if he plays it right. It's just a matter of knowing what counters what.as for the actual shooting game a lot of people like to do the run and gun thing thsts so cool with he kids playing cod and that works for a lot of people but just remember anything at a reasonable distance will be harder to hit because of the bullet drop which is highly exaggerated in this game for scale. It affects everything down to rockets so you just have to get used to it and again you might have to forego shooting at someone if you can't reasonably hit them
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VeggieSmuggler posted:That's a great feature. Yeah, I remember being at the top of the scoreboard in my team despite going like 5/12, just by assisting everyone and capping poo poo. On a completely unrelated topic, am I the only one who actually kinda prefers the Stinger over the Igla? Losing out the 100 meters range seems worth it just to be able to have another missile already underway before the target even realises what's what.
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CombatBonta-kun posted:I found this out the fun way when a pilot in an attack chopper got a little to close to me when I was in the .50 on a tank. I must have put about 4-7 rounds right in his face because I saw a kill pop up on my screen and the chopper just dropped to the ground almost unharmed. Yup. You can do the same thing with infantry weapons, too. Pilots get a bit of damage protection, but the engies are 100% exposed. The trick is hitting them quickly and hard enough to kill em, which is why I recommend the m249 or the LSAT, due to its stability. E: also, it's so hard to switch from your favored weapon to the next  Trading in a suppressed, gripped, eotech/mag M249 for an LSAT with nothing but a bipod is just annoying as hell.
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Perestroika posted:In a completely unrelated topic, am I the only one who actually kinda prefers the Stinger over the Igla? Losing out the 100 meters range seems worth it just to be able to have another missile already underway before the target even realises what's what. I prefer the Stinger on maps with enough tall buildings that I can't lock the Hold lock easily. Tools for the right job I guess. ChronoReverse fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Nov 5, 2013 |
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Nov 5, 2013 20:51
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I performed the Unpark Cores tweak and got very noticeable improvements in FPS. Back to Medium 1080P, even turned on AA, but turned off AO, and stayed above 50FPS.
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Nov 5, 2013 20:56
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So it's kind of annoying that on Battlelog there is no info sheets on the different attachments and upgrades. Here's a rundown on them all if anyone cares or doesn't like to google or whatever http://bf4central.com/battlefield-4-attachments-and-accessories/
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Nov 5, 2013 21:00
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Is the SCAR bugged? I gave it a try after unlocking and no hits ever register even though I somehow got a 2 kill multikill by spraying wildly from the hip.
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Nov 5, 2013 21:03
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Single player keeps crashing. I just want to get the m249 and that linked save file is unavailable :/
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BULBASAUR posted:
Repeating this for the newcomers. Nothing gets on my nerves more than someone coming over and standing beside me when I am capping a flag. If someone gets the drop on me, the other person should be positioned to counter. The number of squads I have wiped that are all within 2m of each other, facing the same way. It is why flanking works.
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Nov 5, 2013 21:06
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WastedJoker posted:Is the SCAR bugged? I gave it a try after unlocking and no hits ever register even though I somehow got a 2 kill multikill by spraying wildly from the hip. Not only does the SCAR work, it's becoming one of the preferred weapons in hardcore since it can kill in 2 bullets at nearly any range.
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Raphus C posted:Repeating this for the newcomers. Nothing gets on my nerves more than someone coming over and standing beside me when I am capping a flag. If someone gets the drop on me, the other person should be positioned to counter. The number of squads I have wiped that are all within 2m of each other, facing the same way. It is why flanking works. On this same note, spawing on a recon that is nice enough to setup a spawn beacon and work his way to be a reall nice spawn point himself is not a lisence to spawn and immediately open fire on anything you see moving. I can't count the number of times I've gotten killed because some pubbie spawns next to me and opens fire while I'm right next to him.
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Nov 5, 2013 21:15
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Ice Fist posted:On this same note, spawing on a recon that is nice enough to setup a spawn beacon and work his way to be a reall nice spawn point himself is not a lisence to spawn and immediately open fire on anything you see moving. I can't count the number of times I've gotten killed because some pubbie spawns next to me and opens fire while I'm right next to him. I apologize because that's me sometimes. I know better but sometimes I get too eager haha.
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Acquire Currency! posted:That's one of things I really like that got changed. You can score hella points by just assisting and being a good teammate. I remember seeing the 'Squad Mate Kill counts as Kill' assist with 110 points, that was great. Which is gloriously awesome in itself but also promotes staying in squad.
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Gropiemon posted:So it's kind of annoying that on Battlelog there is no info sheets on the different attachments and upgrades. Here's a rundown on them all if anyone cares or doesn't like to google or whatever http://bf4central.com/battlefield-4-attachments-and-accessories/ That list is goddamn terrible. It tells you even less information than Battlelog does. Just use the Symthic attachments section. Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Which is gloriously awesome in itself but also promotes staying in squad. I wouldn't say that. The "assist counts as kill" feature works for anybody in your team, you just need to do over 75% of the damage. Although there are plenty of things that do encourage staying as a squad. The spawning mechanic, the squad upgrades, and so on. Liberatore fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Nov 5, 2013 |
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Liberatore posted:That list is goddamn terrible. It tells you even less information than Battlelog does. Just use the Symthic attachments section. Your link has the numbers, mine has the description.
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Liberatore posted:That list is goddamn terrible. It tells you even less information than Battlelog does. Just use the Symthic attachments section. Ah. I thought it was squad only.
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Ice Fist posted:On this same note, spawing on a recon that is nice enough to setup a spawn beacon and work his way to be a reall nice spawn point himself is not a lisence to spawn and immediately open fire on anything you see moving. I can't count the number of times I've gotten killed because some pubbie spawns next to me and opens fire while I'm right next to him.
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Gropiemon posted:Your link has the numbers, mine has the description. Yeah, but Battlelog has the description already. Just click the information button next to the attachments name. As I said, that list has even less information than Battlelog. Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Ah. I thought it was squad only. Yeah, you get a small bonus for squad assists which is why you see "squad assist counts as kill" in addition to "assist counts as kill".
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So is there a reason to ever use a Compensator or Muzzle Brake on anything? Especially over a suppressor, flash hider or heavy barrel. In contrast seem to make your weapons worse.
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Bolow posted:So is there a reason to ever use a Compensator or Muzzle Brake on anything? Especially over a suppressor, flash hider or heavy barrel. In contrast seem to make your weapons worse. Brake, not at all. A compensator could work on weapons with lots of horizontal drift, long as you control your bursts.
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Liberatore posted:Although there are plenty of things that do encourage staying as a squad. The spawning mechanic, the squad upgrades, and so on. If you're playing Domination and your squad leader designates an Attack/Defend order on one of the capture points, you get a lot of bonus experience for doing absolutely nothing different.
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Naturally Selected posted:Brake, not at all. A compensator could work on weapons with lots of horizontal drift, long as you control your bursts. I like the compensator on pistols.
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Bolow posted:So is there a reason to ever use a Compensator or Muzzle Brake on anything? Especially over a suppressor, flash hider or heavy barrel. In contrast seem to make your weapons worse. The suppressor muzzle velocity hit significantly affects long range accuracy. I wouldn't suggest it unless you're always doing close range stuff. Heavy barrel only works when you're not moving, and the data shows that even if you can perfectly adjust for the vertical recoil added by the HB, the compensator will still provide better accuracy after a certain number of shots (for ARs, it's anywhere from 3 to 8 shots). For most people and most weapons, the compensator is a better choice. Muzzle Brake is terrible. It helps with a handful of guns but odds are you're better off using a gun with less vertical recoil if you need it. Umberger posted:If you're playing Domination and your squad leader designates an Attack/Defend order on one of the capture points, you get a lot of bonus experience for doing absolutely nothing different. That goes for pretty much any mode. Mark the bomb in obliteration, mark CPs in conquest, mark the MCOMs in rush, and so on. Liberatore fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Nov 5, 2013 |
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