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Do most monitors now not come with swivel stands? I swivel my monitor about 45 degrees from desk to rest of room when my GF wants to watch something in the bedroom, and it seems like most monitors just don't have that built in anymore from the looks of the cheap stands.
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jeeves posted:Do most monitors now not come with swivel stands? I swivel my monitor about 45 degrees from desk to rest of room when my GF wants to watch something in the bedroom, and it seems like most monitors just don't have that built in anymore from the looks of the cheap stands. Complexity of monitor stands has definitely taken a sharp dive as of late.
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Nov 13, 2013 01:37
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Check the reviews of even a fancy new $$$ monitor, at least several will mention "stand is kinda cheap, moves back and forth like old timey water-drinking-bird statuette when I breathe". Get a lazy susan maybe???
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Nov 13, 2013 02:38
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Or get a good adjustable VESA mount that you can use for all future monitors (assuming you buy good ones that include VESA mounting holes).
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Nov 13, 2013 03:57
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Dell monitors include at least a 50-100 dollar stand, with the monitor for free. One of the many reasons I refuse to buy anything but the ultrasharp line.
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Nov 13, 2013 04:20
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Rawrbomb posted:Dell monitors include at least a 50-100 dollar stand, with the monitor for free. One of the many reasons I refuse to buy anything but the ultrasharp line.
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Nov 13, 2013 04:57
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Zorilla posted:Even the stands on their budget monitors that only have pitch adjustment are pretty good. Mounting near the monitor's center of mass instead of the bottom alone makes a big difference in stability. I have no idea why more monitor manufacturers don't do this because it adds a huge amount of sturdiness at zero extra production cost. I don't know, their stands aren't cheap feeling, with a decent amount of metal in them. Compared to monitors that come with some plastic piece of poo poo that just clips in, I imagine it costs more.
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Nov 13, 2013 10:41
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I have a pair of Ergotron stands because the stands that came with my monitors were a little bit too short, despite being the swivel, rotate and up-down type. It's a shame they were about £60 each. But for reasons already stated, if I were buying new screens I'd buy nothing other than UltraSharps.
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Nov 13, 2013 13:18
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I've gotta say, the lack of rotation on my U3014's stand kinda bugs me. Mine hangs a few degrees off horizontal, so one corner is about 50-75mm higher than the other, and there's nothing I can do about it except put something under the stand to even it out.
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Nov 13, 2013 13:26
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So I bought a Westinghouse 37" monitor back around '07 when hardforum (really?) was raving about it and it had dropped to around $700 at the time. It's served me well since then with 15-20,000 hours of use but started to splotch a month or two ago so I got rid of it. I am now using a 23" monitor for general use and gaming but I miss having the large screen. I know HDTVs are not good at this, and it seems most monitors now only go up to 30". Is there a brand that does 37-42" monitors, hopefully LED, for under 1k that goons would recommend? kloa fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Nov 13, 2013 |
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Nov 13, 2013 16:26
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kloa posted:So I bought a Westinghouse 37" monitor back around '07 when hardforum (really?) was raving about it and it had dropped to around $700 at the time. It's served me well since then with 15-20,000 hours of use but started to splotch a month or two ago so I got rid of it. Seiki 4k 39" tv for regular price $700 on Amazon.  Other than that, at those sizes you're looking at tv's.
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Nov 13, 2013 16:36
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Coredump posted:Seiki 4k 39"  I didn't realize 4k was gonna be that cheap so soon. I was looking at a Samsung H40B 40" 1080p but I may end up getting that instead with the 5 year warranty instead. Also there's a "large format display" section on newegg that has what I'm looking for but hardly any reviews in any of them.
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Nov 13, 2013 16:51
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kloa posted:
Those large format displays are pretty expensive for what you get and I'm not sure why. Maybe they're built for longer hours than a typical LCD display of the same size? They don't even have tuners built in either. Be aware that until Seiki goes to hdmi 2.0 you're going to be stuck at 30hz refresh when running at 4k. Its supposed to go up to 60 hz at 1080p though when you wanna play a game. But with all that screen real estate for that cheap, 30hz for desktop use maybe worth it.
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Nov 13, 2013 17:06
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kloa posted:
There's a reason it's cheap.
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Nov 13, 2013 17:09
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I think they're meant for offices to run 24/7 to display ads and such. I don't mind the lack of a tuner because it's only for gaming and desktop use. I'll probably order the Seiki you linked tonight and we'll see how it looks!
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Nov 13, 2013 17:10
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kloa posted:I think they're meant for offices to run 24/7 to display ads and such. I don't mind the lack of a tuner because it's only for gaming and desktop use. I'll probably order the Seiki you linked tonight and we'll see how it looks!
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Nov 13, 2013 17:15
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Commercial displays are designed for longer hours of operation, are often fan cooled, have glass fronts on the panels as well as being able to network to report their status and take option cards for different types of inputs (SDI, PC etc). They are overkill for home use.
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Nov 13, 2013 17:23
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El Scotch posted:There's a reason it's cheap. And that reason is...
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Nov 13, 2013 18:16
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Decision time, extra 10% off IPS monitors at Newegg for the next 48 hours. Dell or ASUS? Looking at 23 in ultra sharp vs. all others. I will be using it for moderating gaming, and really nothing else.
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jownzy posted:Decision time, extra 10% off IPS monitors at Newegg for the next 48 hours. Whichever you decide get two. It will be awesome.
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Is there anything similar to the the Asus VG236H posted in the OP? I'm thinking of grabbing a 120hz monitor after some recent PC upgrades, but unfortunately the VG236H doesn't seem to be particularly available in Canada. I've checked shopbot.ca and newegg.ca but can't find anything.
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Judas Priest posted:Is there anything similar to the the Asus VG236H posted in the OP? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007616%20600255030&IsNodeId=1&name=120Hz I'm not from here, so I don't know how this works for you.
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I was pretty set on a 1440p monitor, but after seeing the lack of support I think I'll hold off for a while. I've since scaled down a bit and have been looking into 1080p monitors, but I could use some more recommendations. I'll be gaming and using them for art, so response time and color accuracy are both important. I'm planning to get 3 which I'll have a budget for as long as they're in the $300 range, but I'd rather have good monitors than all 3 at once. It'd also be great if they had minimal bezel, of course. I only have a single 780 so I'll probably be doing most of the gaming on a single monitor, but I'll definitely play around with triple monitor gaming as far as my system will allow. I was originally looking at 27" ips monitors, but just about everything I look at in the $300 range has bad reviews. I have no probems going down to 24" or so, but I'm not finding anything very impressive. I'm in Canada, so my options are a bit more limited. The top suggestion by Wasabi the J looks pretty decent, though it doesn't have IPS and the 3D isn't really necessary, at least for all 3 monitors. Do I really need IPS? Am I better off waiting a bit and paying a bit more for higher end monitors? I'm a bit paranoid about buying monitors that I can't see, but I don't have a lot of options in brick&mortars around here.
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TemporalParadox posted:The top suggestion by Wasabi the J looks pretty decent, though it doesn't have IPS and the 3D isn't really necessary, at least for all 3 monitors. Do I really need IPS? Am I better off waiting a bit and paying a bit more for higher end monitors? If you're an artist by trade, or are really annoyed by color shifts when moving your seating position, then you want IPS. And the Asus VG236H isn't IPS, so I'm not sure you were under the impression that it was. 3D is always a byproduct of 120hz+ monitors; most can do 3D with active shutter glasses, because they are capable of doing 60hz L+R eye; it's not going to be an actual factor, unless they're trying to sell you one with glasses.
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TemporalParadox posted:I was pretty set on a 1440p monitor, I have one of those, it's awesome.
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Wasabi the J posted:If you're an artist by trade, or are really annoyed by color shifts when moving your seating position, then you want IPS. I am, on both counts. So perhaps I should stick to at least IPS for main monitor then. I wasn't under that impression, I think you misread. But that's something I didn't realize so good to know. Pretty Cool Name posted:I have one of those, it's awesome. And everything I read about it says its pretty awesome. But it's $600 on it's own, and 1440p still isn't that widely supported. I had plans to get a capture card for example, to record my gameplay. There isn't any hardware that records in 1440p yet though. I figure it makes more sense to pick one up a bit further down the road. I had considered just getting that 1440p monitor and picking up cheaper 1080p ones to go with it later, but eh, mixing resolutions. Plus I'd have to drop it down to 1080p if I wanted to record through hardware, making the use of the 1440p questionable most of the time.
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Why would you need gameplay recording hardware when there is Shadowplay?
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Anti-Hero posted:Why would you need gameplay recording hardware when there is Shadowplay? I'll get back to you on that when I find out what Shadowplay is. Edit: Ok well then, I guess I don't. from what I'm reading it still only supports 1920x1080 and 10-20 minutes though? TemporalParadox fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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Anti-Hero posted:Why would you need gameplay recording hardware when there is Shadowplay? Reminder that shadowplay is currently limited to 10 minutes.
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Magic Underwear posted:Reminder that shadowplay is currently limited to 10 minutes. quote:If you prefer to save every single moment, enable Manual Mode with the rebindable Alt + F9 hotkey, which acts like traditional gameplay recorders, saving your entire session to disk. Windows 7 files cap out at 4GB per file due to OS limitations, but on Windows 8 and Windows 8.1, file size is only limited by available hard disk space, enabling hours of footage to be recorded to a single file. Still don't see anything about 1440p though. Is the general recommendation that I should stick with that 1440p monitor then? Any 1080p suggestions? TemporalParadox fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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What's the average DPI of all of these new 4K (and other) highDPI displays? The rMBPs are averaging ~220. I'm curious about the wider industry trends though.
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Does there exist a consensus on whether or not Eizo's EV2736W is a decent competitor to Dell's U2713H(M)? I'm halfheartedly shopping for a new 1440p monitor and I've only ever heard good things about Eizo with the only downside being the price, and the price point of this one is so close to Dell for me in Euroland that I'm leaning toward giving it a try unless they're absolutely god-awful and no Eizo products <1000€ are worth buying.
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TemporalParadox posted:I am, on both counts. So perhaps I should stick to at least IPS for main monitor then. I have a 2560 * 1600 monitor, and record seamlessly in DxTory- It supports recording at 1920*1200 while I play at 2560*1600, with almost no loss in FPS (Perhaps ~5 or so FPS hit). If I used a faster disk subsystem for recording I could record in 2560*1600 if I needed to, but that is excessive file size wise. A single 3tb disk is plenty to record 60 fps 1920 footage in though. There's literally no "support" issues that I've ever encountered, and I've been using a 2560 monitor for the last 5 years. Obviously really old games won't support very high resolutions, but GPU scaling handily takes care of them. Once you use something 2560, you'll never ever want to go back to mere 1080.
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Jam2 posted:What's the average DPI of all of these new 4K (and other) highDPI displays? The rMBPs are averaging ~220. I'm curious about the wider industry trends though. The common size for high-end 4k monitors right now seems to be 31", which is like 140 dpi. Obviously it's going to be further from your eye than a laptop though, but it's still probably not high enough to give you the "retina" effect. I'm guessing that Apple is going to have to release an iMac Retina or something before the rest of the industry does anything to push real high-dpi desktop monitors. I'm a little amazed they haven't, really.
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Gwaihir posted:I have a 2560 * 1600 monitor, and record seamlessly in DxTory- It supports recording at 1920*1200 while I play at 2560*1600, with almost no loss in FPS (Perhaps ~5 or so FPS hit). If I used a faster disk subsystem for recording I could record in 2560*1600 if I needed to, but that is excessive file size wise. A single 3tb disk is plenty to record 60 fps 1920 footage in though. Alright, you're convincing me. Perhaps I'll stick with the single 1440p asus I linked there for now and stop fidgeting.
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You really are going to need a high level video card for gaming though, there's no question there. I have a GTX680 which serves me well (I don't demand full AA/ultra-max everything so I get by fine without any SLI shenanigans and keep 45+ FPS). Recording did make me look elsewhere from FRAPS though- FRAPS, though traditional, is just too limited since you can only choose full or half resolution. It's also just a lot slower than dxtory or shadowplay.
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Gwaihir posted:You really are going to need a high level video card for gaming though, there's no question there. I have a GTX680 which serves me well (I don't demand full AA/ultra-max everything so I get by fine without any SLI shenanigans and keep 45+ FPS). He'll only need a high level of video card if he doesn't want to downsample.
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Wasabi the J posted:He'll only need a high level of video card if he doesn't want to downsample. I don't, if I can at all avoid it. I'll be picking up a single 780 for now. Edit: I misread that, it's not such a big deal if I have to play in 1440p and record in 1080p (as long as it looks ok downsampled). As long as I don't have to PLAY in 1080p on a 1440p monitor just to record, which is the situation I'm in if I go the hardware route. It sounds like I'll be fine with a cocktail mix of software solutions at the moment, so I'll stick with the asus and go without the capture card for now. I appreciate the help. Mixing resolutions between monitors isn't such a big thing these days right? When I pick up other monitors, they'd likely just be 1080p since a single 780 isn't enough to really make use of multiple 1440 monitors. Obviously there would be some annoyance transitioning between the two due to different sizes and positioning but everything would function fine aside from annoyance right? TemporalParadox fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Nov 16, 2013 |
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TemporalParadox posted:
From some Nvidia power consumption issues (now apparently solved) the reason you'd not want to run different resolutions is the usability one you've already identified - there is no technical reason it won't work (indeed I've had mismatched monitors at work for many years now)
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dissss posted:From some Nvidia power consumption issues (now apparently solved) the reason you'd not want to run different resolutions is the usability one you've already identified - there is no technical reason it won't work (indeed I've had mismatched monitors at work for many years now) Alright, good to hear. Most of the time it will just be for work. Every now and then I could just drop my main monitor down to 1080p if I want to experiment with 3 screen gaming.
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